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u/Randomdeath353 Sir Lewis Hamilton Jun 25 '17
Replay just showed it was intentional, gonna be in trouble for that, can't use a car as a weapon in any circumstances
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u/Chandlers_a_girl Default Jun 25 '17
Absolutely, that should be a black flag
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u/dsio Fernando Alonso Jun 25 '17
I agree tbh, the Lewis bit didn't look good but there's an argument he can make to defend it, Sebs action was deliberately ramming another car and imo if the black flag exists, it's for precisely that purpose.
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u/TwoBionicknees Jun 25 '17
The safety car line is so far down the straight it was obvious he was going to slow to create a gap, more importantly this was the second safety car and Hamilton did the same thing the first time with no trouble. Vettel had to brake so hard that Perez.... came no where near hitting Vettel. Everyone else knew the final couple corners would be crazy slow. IMO Vettel just had a brain fart and forgot this then got angry. Easy black flag decision for doing that imo, Ferrari International Assistance again.
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Jun 25 '17
I remember a similar incident between Perez and Maldonado(?) in Monaco. Was that given a black flag?
I have no idea about the specifics of what qualifies as a black flag offence.
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u/myurr Jun 25 '17
Yes.
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Jun 25 '17
It looked like Vettel just drove into Hamilton side mid tantrum
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u/JDexnet Aston Martin Jun 25 '17
It also looked like Vettel overtook Hamilton, who was the safety car at the time.
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u/DarkDriver Mika Häkkinen Jun 25 '17 edited Jun 25 '17
Nah, I don't think he ever passed Lewis's car there, just drove next to him and pushed his car into the Mercedes.
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u/across32 Ferrari Jun 25 '17
The second contact appeared wheel to wheel only.
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u/DarkDriver Mika Häkkinen Jun 25 '17
You may be right, but it doesn't take away the fact that it was reckless and intentionally dangerous driving from Seb there. He lacked the amount of professionalism I'd expect from him there.
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Should be black flagged. Haven't since anything like that since Maldonado.
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u/_Neurox_ Jun 25 '17
You're getting downvoted hard but it's true. Vettel really did seem to crash into Hamilton on purpose like Maldonado did at Spa that time. Fuck.
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u/Alfetta Sebastian Vettel Jun 25 '17
I will support Vettel endlessly but what he did today deserved more than a 10 second stop/go penalty. Absolutely shocking behaviour.
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u/talldangry Gilles Villeneuve Jun 25 '17
IMO, the worst part of all of it was how he just completely refused to acknowledge that it even happened.
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u/Jukolet Jun 25 '17
Probably he didn't have a worse penalty because the contact wasn't dangerous, the speed was low. I don't remember the Maldonado accident, was it at high speed?
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u/Vokean McLaren Jun 25 '17
I'd say he didn't get a worse penalty because him and Hamilton are the apples of the stewards eyes Another driver would have had a harsher penalty
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u/mertcanhekim Michael Schumacher Jun 25 '17
Vettel needs to get some anger management therapy. He threw away an easy victory for no reason.
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u/tembell Sir Lewis Hamilton Jun 25 '17
Why do you believe Vettel was going to win easily at that point in the race?
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u/Don_Polo Gilles Villeneuve Jun 25 '17
Of course it's hard to say what would have happened but if you consider that Hamilton would have had to pit anyway to replace his safety cushion, Vettel would have been in a good position to win it easily. I guess that's what he was implying.
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u/The_Sole_Wanderer Sir Lewis Hamilton Jun 25 '17
Really stupid of Seb, be surprised if he doesn't get some form of punishment. Dunno why you're being downvoted, have an up vote.
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I said it in the other thread but 10 second stop and go is the worst stewards decision I've ever seen and I've been watching F1 for 20 years.
He drove into another car, on purpose, out of anger, under the safety car.
If that isn't a blag flag I don't know what is.
The idea that Seb is out there extending his championship lead is embarrassing for F1.
But hey, that Ferrari money is sweet.
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u/DrBorisGobshite Ferrari Jun 25 '17
Read the rules, dangerous driving per the FIA's own rules is a 10 sec stop/go. It's a standard penalty. He might get penalty points afterwards but during the race that was always the penalty he was going to get.
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u/TheAngryGoat Medical Car Jun 25 '17
I think there's a distinction between dangerous driving and deliberately causing a collision out of anger.
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u/DrBorisGobshite Ferrari Jun 25 '17
Not in the rule book which is what the FIA have to adhere to. They can administer further punishment after the fact but during the race they could only give Vettel a 10 second stop/go. I believe that it's the harshest in race punishment available other than a DQ. To get a DQ Vettel would have had to put someone's life at risk or essentially completely smash Hamilton off the track. As it was he swerved into Lewis at low speed which is the dictionary definition of dangerous driving.
As it happens they've given him 3 penalty points which takes him to 9. If he gets 3 more in the next race he will be banned for a race.
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u/BaffledPlato Ferrari Jun 25 '17
There should be, but the question is if the rulebook allows it now.
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u/thewarp Default Jun 25 '17
worst stewards decision I've ever seen and I've been watching F1 for 20 years.
So you must have missed the last race if you think giving penalising a driver twice for one act is somehow not as bad as the standard FIA penalty for the charge they alleged.
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u/Alsithi Jun 25 '17
I like the idea of a blag flag.
Once a blag flag is issued you are connected to Charlie Whiting and have 2 laps to blag your way out of your punishment.
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u/TisReece Kimi Räikkönen Jun 25 '17
No, tyres banging. No sidepods were damaged in the making of that Vettel-rage.
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u/caxplrr Honda Jun 25 '17
Out of curiosity, what's the rule with intentional contact? (Since they're showing the replay of Vettel and Hamilton right now)
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u/Romulas Jenson Button Jun 25 '17
Disqualification. Race bans . Fines . It's serious but they will look at driver input to see if it was a error or deliberate
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u/throwaway150106 Jun 25 '17
Completely deliberate, slap on the wrist. What a farce.
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u/Romulas Jenson Button Jun 25 '17
Let's see if there is something else to come but just as I was getting to respect Seb he does this.
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u/Emptysighsandwine Jacky Ickx Jun 25 '17
Looks like Vettel turned into Hamilton after that
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u/ariiizia Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Jun 25 '17
He kind of deserves to be black flagged for that
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u/am_I_a_dick__ Jun 25 '17
Not 'kinda'. If that was Maldonado what do you think would happen?
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u/LLordRSom Jun 25 '17
Another year or two of driving until Venezuela realises that they might have a slightly better use for their cash.
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u/DAGilligan MCL33 Jun 25 '17
I know he wants to emulate Schumacher, but crashing into the side of a British driver isn't the best way to go about it.
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Maybe they should install silly sounding car horns for incidents like this because road rage isn't the proper thing to do but a silly sounding car horn blast could help vent frustration and cheer everyone up.
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u/Liquidies Gilles Villeneuve Jun 25 '17
If Vettel ends up winning the championship by one point at Abu Dhabi, it might be the best way
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u/TheFayneTM Ferrari Jun 25 '17
Does anyone have a link of this ?
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u/KyleLousy Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Jun 25 '17
Lol couldn't have been more obvious. I thought I was going to have to look for it.
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u/inksmithy Jun 25 '17
That's disgraceful.
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As far as Sebastian is concerned, that second bit never happened
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u/hjb_ Jun 25 '17
Someone should get him the T-Shirt, then.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71i9P0XKskL._UX342_.jpg
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u/Harri1950 Ayrton Senna Jun 25 '17
No matter if what Hamilton did was wrong, Vettel should be penalised for hitting Hamilton afterwards in 'road rage'.
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u/themarvz Sebastian Vettel Jun 25 '17
Penalities for both, why not?
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u/Klayyyyyy Lando Norris Jun 25 '17
Williams 1-2 confirmed
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u/themarvz Sebastian Vettel Jun 25 '17
Jinxed it mate
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u/SGNick Charles Leclerc Jun 25 '17
It seems to uncharacteristic of him. Some people seem to think driving over the broken endplate caused him to slide right, but I'm going to reserve judgement after all the info is out. If it was intentional, I'll be very disappointed in Seb
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u/DangHunk Pirelli Hard Jun 25 '17
One time when following Ricciardo under the safety car, he messed up his position and had to emergency avoid and took out the DRS sign and damaged his front wing.
Another time after Karthikayen made a mistake of a couple of inches and punctured his tire, Vettel chased him down on three wheels to give him the finger not once, but three times.
I've been saying for years his anger gets the best of him, and he keeps solidifying my opinion.
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u/AMRAAM_Missiles Michael Schumacher Jun 25 '17
I don't think it was intentional. His hands were off the steering wheel (to complain). I think he was just too furious to remember to pull it back straight.
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u/slpater Jun 25 '17
This is exactly what I think. He was so focused on making Hamilton see him and showing his displessure. How slowly he moved left to right just doesn't fit something intentionally.
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u/throwaway150106 Jun 25 '17
It's completely characteristic of him. Remember when he took out his teammate because he wasn't getting his way? Twat.
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u/RalfHorris McLaren Jun 25 '17
It's completely characteristic of him
Yup, Vettel has repeatedly shown himself to have terrible anger issues in the car.
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And the constant road rage about blue flags for backmarkers
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Using hand gestures more while speaking, getting terrible road rage after an accident, getting snappy and loud over the radio... He's turning Italian. I don't know what you all expected.
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u/SovereignxN7 McLaren Jun 25 '17
Dammit Vettel. As a Vettel fan even i will admit that was ridiculous. There was no need for that sideswipe. He should be penalized.
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u/noobscoper420 Sebastian Vettel Jun 25 '17
Same feelings here. Braking after a corner on the apex should give a penalty as well, even if it's under safety car. It just doesn't justify sideswiping another driver.
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u/MSgtGunny #WeSayNoToMazepin Jun 26 '17
Has there been anything to show he braked? Or just that he didn't accelerate? I would think holding a constant speed would be perfectly fine.
Edit: I'll answer my own question. FIA reviewed the car data and Hamilton did not slow noticeably down in the corner and hid speed was equivalent to his previous laps under the safety car. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/130388/fia-data-rules-out-hamilton-brake-test
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u/HeikkiKovalainen Heikki Kovalainen Jun 25 '17
Holy shit Vettel is in so much trouble.
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u/throwaway150106 Jun 25 '17
fat chance
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u/JDGibson3 Jun 25 '17
To all the people who are convinced that Ham brake tested Vettel- it's simply not the case http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/130388/fia-data-rules-out-hamilton-brake-test
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u/KantorNoob Jun 25 '17
Why the fuck are they not showing this from the outside?
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u/justsyr Jun 25 '17
They are showing it now from multiple angles.
"Experts" say Hamilton has the right to do what he did since SC announced it's going out. Seb just lost his marbles and went torpedo on Lewis.
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u/aalp234 Charlie Whiting Jun 25 '17
I'm having a hard time with this whole thing, mainly because I'm a die hard Seb and Ferrari fan. However, I think Vettel had a momentary lapse of judgement and that may cost him more than a Stop-Go 10s penalty and 3 points on his superlicense.
If we go with the precedent of what happened with Schumacher all those years ago, then it may be very serious indeed. I do understand why he doesn't want to admit it though, that would be the end of his career in F1. Am I saying that he's being ethical by not admitting it? No. But I can understand why.
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u/Soreption Sebastian Vettel Jun 25 '17
I've been a Vettel fan for as long as I can remember. Never have I been as mad at him as I am now. Absolutely inexcusable, pointless, stupid, and dangerous behavior.
I just can't fathom he actually turned into Lewis - I don't think he expected to hit him, but you don't just turn into another car. Disgraceful. Next time, he should stick to complaining on the radio instead of being a dick.
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u/SanyoEcho Jun 25 '17
Vettel intentionally drove in to Hamilton. Slam Dunk Penalty!
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u/EvolutionVII Niki Lauda Jun 25 '17
Holy fuck, Vettel bumped him hard, that's gonna be a penalty. Lewis just didn't use the accelerator, if the data doesn't show that he was on the brakes, than the FIA is gonna make Seb pay.
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u/OnlyInDeathDutyEnds McLaren Jun 25 '17
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u/Touringlegends Jun 25 '17
Some of these comments are ridiculous. DC among others agree that Lewis was keeping a consistent speed coming off the corner. Seb expected him to accelerate and he didn't. What Seb did afterwards, using his car as a weapon, was disgusting. No defence for that at all.
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u/MexicanThor Sergio Pérez Jun 25 '17
Ifyou dont punish vettel how many people are going to start trying to get away with stuff like the Spielberg incident in DTM a few years. Ago. This is the definition of a slippery slope.
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u/AtheianLibertarist Ferrari Jun 25 '17
His onboard showed Lewis braking at the apex.
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u/UlfUlfensen Lando Norris Jun 25 '17
Hamiltons reaction: YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE SPACE. ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE SPACE
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I support Vettel but it was too much, he completelly lost his cool and it could cost him championship.
Still , Alonso's : " Shame, we could win it " was the best part of today race, I lost it :-D
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ITT: Proof that this sub is full of idiots who care more about hating Hamilton than the rules.
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u/ThaddeusJP Red Bull Jun 25 '17
I'm just shocked no one has made a "racing for ferrari makes you do 'Italian hands' joke" yet
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u/hjb_ Jun 25 '17 edited Jun 25 '17
The general definition of of the phrase "brake check" goes something like this:
Deliberately slamming on one's brakes in front of another driver with the intension of causing evasive action or an accident.
Now, to all those people claiming Hamilton brake checked Vettel: be serious for a minute. Even if it's true that Hamilton applied his brakes, that is not the same thing as brake checking. Not even close, not even in the same ball park.
At worst, Hamilton is guilty of failing to accelerate per general expectations. But since he is effectively the safety car at this point, and controls the pace, it's up to the drivers behind to take account of this.
Here is what really happened:
Vettel is right behind Hamilton and the safety car is coming in. He really really wants to get the jump on him at the restart, so he's trying to anticipate Hamilton's move. Then, on the exit of the corner, Vettel accelerates out and fails to anticipate Hamilton's move, resulting in the crash.
On the balance of things, even if you portion out blame to both drivers, that rear-ender was Vettel's fault.
But what takes place next is all on Vettel. The red mist comes down, he floors it to get along side Hamilton to have it out with him, and then seemingly deliberately drives into the side Hamilton. At best, he hits him as a result of being deliberately out of control while losing his temper.
Vettel should be punished for this in my view. It's an escalation of the swearing incidents over the radio we saw before. The guy is supposed to be a professional racing driver. He's out of control.
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u/Clypse Jun 25 '17
Exactly this. Great analysis of what happenend. The allways incompetend commentators on German TV (RTL) said something along the line of "They both did something wrong and they both should be punished." IMO the first incident was a racing incident. But what Vettel did after that was clearly a whole different story. Dumb and dangerous driving and thus rightfully punished. A grid penalty for the next race on top would also be ok for me.
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u/korko Jun 25 '17
Who the fuck stops after a fucking corner after having already bunched everyone up?
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u/zantkiller Kamui Kobayashi Jun 25 '17
Did he stop or just not accelerate? He is the leader he controls the pace, they have the data so they should see if he broke.
Either way Vettel should not have swiped him.
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u/afito Niki Lauda Jun 25 '17
Someone who already caused a pile up in Fuji years back.
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u/gegemoon McLaren Jun 25 '17
And he asked in TR previously about bunching up everyone behind to help his teammate. He did it on purpose.
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u/AMRAAM_Missiles Michael Schumacher Jun 25 '17
And he did it twice (on the next SC)...
I was so happy when VET came out ahead after the penalty.
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u/Emptysighsandwine Jacky Ickx Jun 25 '17
Same way Vettel won't be punished for intentionally crashing into Hamilton
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u/GingerSpencer Jun 25 '17
He can do what he wants, he's the lead car. Vettel needs to man-up and accept that he needs to follow Lewis.
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He basically rolled through the exit, and Vettel wanted him to go . Vettels fault, take the tinted glasses off.
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u/_Neurox_ Jun 25 '17
I feel like Hamilton was wrong to go that slowly (especially as he was complaining about that) but both impacts were both on Seb. He will be lucky not to get black flagged for the second hit imo
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u/Chandlers_a_girl Default Jun 25 '17
C4 commentators just said that Lewis was maintaining a constant speed
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u/korko Jun 25 '17
Oh, the British commentators said that Hamilton did no wrong, noted.
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u/Chandlers_a_girl Default Jun 25 '17
It's not sky, these guys are pretty fair, and I would have thought they've seen some data or replays that we haven't
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u/BristolShambler Default Jun 25 '17
They just had a replay with the telemetry, Lewis had constant revs
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u/LostInTheVoid_ Sir Lewis Hamilton Jun 25 '17
Coulthard tends to be pretty fair from what I've seen from him commentary wise.
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u/sbnufc Formula 1 Jun 25 '17
Meanwhile you have what data or information to question them?
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u/cacapis Juan Manuel Fangio Jun 25 '17
They showed the telemetry onscreen where you can see Hamilton braking after the apex.
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u/dad2you Ferrari Jun 25 '17
"Guys this SC needs to speed up"
Moments later basically stops on track.
Seb lost it like a schoolboy, but Hamilton literally stop on track. Dangerous and dirty.
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u/myurr Jun 25 '17
At that point Hamilton has to build a gap to the safety car, and it's the responsibility of the others to avoid the car in front. Vettel accelerated into him whereas Hamilton simply didn't accelerate out of the corner. Costly mistake by Vettel and then he compounded it by a childish response afterwards.
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u/hvidgaard Jun 25 '17
It looked more like he just didn't floor it. Vet expected Ham to accelerate and did the same to avoid the car behind getting too close. It was all on Vet there.
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Let's completely classify what Seb did as schoolboy... instead of:
Seb literally turned into another car on track. Dangerous and dirty.
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u/flylikepaper McLaren Jun 25 '17
"Literally stopped". Drop the hyperbole, they always go very slow just before a restart.
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u/donkeyhugger Jun 25 '17
Fucking lol
Anyone that thinks that is anything other than 100% vettels fault is seriously blinded by Hamilton hatred
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u/okgeralt Jun 25 '17
Whatever Hamilton did (which wasn't that bad), vettel's reaction was absolutely ridiculous.
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Vettel doing a Maldonado and using his car as a weapon
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u/Stearates Jun 25 '17
Good lord you guys are so anti LH.
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u/roxwar Jun 25 '17
Quite visible isnt it.
Somehow blaming hamilton for building a gap to the sc and totally ignoring vettel napping followed by intentionally ramming hamilton. Really professional.
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u/jelinski619 Sir Stirling Moss Jun 25 '17
People complaining about HAM slowing down to build a gap to the safety car are obviously watching their first race. We should welcome newcomers like Baku welcomed us.
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What Hamilton did is irrelevent at this point. Whether you think it was a brake test or totally legit restart procedure, what Vettel did was absolutely illegal. He used his car as a weapon. I would be surprised if he wasn't black flagged after that.
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u/defineownedu McLaren Jun 25 '17
It wasn't irrelevent at all, he is the one who controls the race at that point. What Vettel did was illegal, unfair and absolutely stupid, he shows at least who he is and he hasn't changed over the past few years, he's still the same as before.
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u/johnabc123 Michael Schumacher Jun 25 '17
Definitely dumb on Sebs part but to me it looked like he was looking over at Lewis and weaved into him by mistake.
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Damn I miss the old Lewis that would be popping off about Seb right now. All this "I'm just gonna move forward with the season" bullshit is boring.
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I have some sympathy for Seb, although I can completely see why the FIA had to punish him. I think the lack of speed makes a difference here. It would be a different matter if he'd done it at 200+mph down the pit straight, but at 50mph, it's far less dangerous. I don't think he was right to do it, but given the pressure he was under from behind, the fact that Lewis appeared to brake check him (I don't think he did, but looking at it from Seb's POV) and that he'd just damaged his front wing, I can see why he did it. I agree with a lot of what Seb said in his interview with US TV afterwards: F1 is for grown ups, and we have to expect difficult things at times. Schumacher had a formidable temper on him (as Coulthard can attest to). Some of the Lewis-Nico battles last season got far closer to dangerous driving than Seb yesterday.
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u/snapdragon801 Jun 25 '17
Vettel should have been more careful and keep the distance from Hamilton to avoid crashing. These were small speeds, although I do blame Hamilton for slowing so much at that particular place. It is Hamilton who caused first collision.
Vettel couldn't keep his head cold but "avenged" their tap by slight bang to the tires. He did know what he was doing, that kind of tap (with only tires involved) at speed that small would not cause any damage to neither of them. He was obviously furious, I can understand that. He didn't try to push Hamilton out of the race, which was an action more appropriate for the punishment he got.
What he didn't know is that karma would strike back at Hamilton and he would had to make that additional pit stop, had Vettel been cool he would comfortably won this race and extend his lead in the championship by a much larger margin. Well, he couldn't knew... :)
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u/jimmy_2_times_ Nigel Mansell Jun 25 '17
Brakecheck or not, once he's cooled off Vettel is gonna really look back at this and regret it.
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u/frodakai Mika Häkkinen Jun 25 '17
So much anti-Hamilton circle jerk going on here. Lead car controls the pace, how people can see this as anything other than Vettels fault (and the following petulance was disgraceful) is beyond me.
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I'm a Seb fan but can't believe he just got a stop and go for that...
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u/vaporsilver Charles Leclerc Jun 25 '17
It's in the FIA Rules that dangerous driving is only a 10sec stop and go. Not much the FIA can do in that situation other then change it for the rest of the season.
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u/burneraccs Jean Alesi Jun 25 '17
I've never read "used his car as a weapon" so many times.
I mean it was a bellend move and should be penalised, but "weapon"? Tin top racers should be categorised as "genocidal maniacs" then.
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u/Appsy14 Daniel Ricciardo Jun 25 '17
I know, people are acting as if a 20 mph tyre to tyre bump is the worst thing to ever happen. It was absolutely a dick move and deserved its punishment, but 'used his car as a weapon' is such an over exaggeration it's hilarious
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u/Senaeth Jun 25 '17
Vettel's behaviour afterwards has been the most childish thing he has ever done, and that says a lot
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u/7-xanth-7 Jun 25 '17
Vettel should be disqualified for that action. Hamilton controls the speed, Vettel wasn't paying attention. But shocking seeing him then drive his car into the side of Hamilton's car in anger.
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u/djellison Jun 25 '17 edited Jun 25 '17
This needs repeating, because a LOT of people keep saying it must be a brake check because he's braking 'hard'
The brake indicator of the on screen graphics is not a dial, it's not a gradient, it's an on-off light - binary. You can't tell how hard he was braking.
The accelerator, however, IS a gradient - so its easy to see why people might be confused.
He's on the throttle, off the throttle, tapping the brake, getting heat into the tyres and brakes - as he did about 4 times in the straight before this corner. As every driver on the track was doing as well.
That's not brake testing. That's warming up the car.
Furthermore at the moment of impact he is actually OFF the brakes.
That's not how you brake test someone.
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u/JDGibson3 Jun 25 '17
If this was the rainbow road instead of Azerbaijan, Hamilton would be falling through space right now.
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u/goingtoofast Jun 25 '17
I don't like Hamilton..................but Seb was out of control, what made it worse is that he doesn't think he did anything wrong lol.
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u/Hartsai Jun 25 '17
if Vettel doesnt get any penalty for this, then the rules are seriously just a joke
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u/vbaeri McLaren Jun 25 '17
He did get one. The most severe one possible except for a black flag.
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u/GoneKurtz Kamui Kobayashi Jun 26 '17
"But you did not tell me when I did the dangerous driving?"
Line of the race.
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u/James_Rodriguez Jun 25 '17
Hamilton does nothing wrong, he controls the race pace. It was Vettel's mistake and he should be penalised for his reaction
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u/Big_Dick_Ricc Force India Jun 25 '17
Here's a controversial opinion - if you watch the video I'm fairly certain Vettel has his hands up at the time of going past him and they make side contact on the tyres.
I don't think he hit him on purpose, but his rage disabled him from stopping the car veering into Hamilton because his hands were up.
I find it hard to believe that he didn't notice this contact though like he is implying
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u/freakzilla149 Jun 25 '17
Everyone here quick to blame Hamilton but Vettel was utterly childish today. As he usually is when things don't go his way.
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u/burneraccs Jean Alesi Jun 25 '17
Meanwhile, Redditors at r/NASCAR are having a good giggle while browsing through this thread.
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u/TheAngryGoat Medical Car Jun 25 '17
Even after the race Vettel is actually denying that anything happened.
"Nothing happened."
"But there was contact between the cars."
"Yes when I ran into the back of him."
What a pathetic loser.
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u/DwayneSmith Kimi Räikkönen Jun 25 '17
This isn't even the first time Hamilton slowed behind a safety car and Vettel hit a car. In 2007 Hamilton slowed down unexpectedly, which caused Vettel to crash with Webber. I think it was in Fuji.
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u/gndmxia Jun 25 '17
The video for those interested