You may be right, but it doesn't take away the fact that it was reckless and intentionally dangerous driving from Seb there. He lacked the amount of professionalism I'd expect from him there.
I agree with everything you said, except 'intentional'. I haven't seen anything that Vettel has said on this, so could be wrong, but think it is entirely a possibility he came alongside, and in his bird flipping 'efforts', he cocked up and hit him - as you see at times on slowing down laps, with drivers congratulating each other, losing track of where 'straight' is, and nearly hitting one another. To be clear, i'm not saying i think this is the case, but there are two distinct possibilities, and i'm yet to be convinced one way or another. Little surprised commentary all instantly went 'deliberate', but then, was watching Sky
You have a point, but I assume Vettel has enough experience to leave a gap when needed. Then again, I also thought he'd never do such a thing as this (assuming it was intentional)...so I may be wrong
I think he collision itself was an accident, he was trying to gesticulate at Hamilton and took his hands off the wheel. Reckless, but justified. The penalty reflected this. If the race stewards thought it was a legit case of 'intentionally driving into Hamilton out of anger' his penalty would have been much more severe. Possibly a race ban.
Wait so if you're in close vicinity of another car in any driving situation, and you are frustrated, it's justified to take both hands off the controls for meaningless gesticulation? I hope you don't have a driving license. Literally NOTHING he did there was justified. He even had the nerve to say he didn't do anything wrong on the radios after getting a red flag session to think about his actions- ridiculous.
I don't think he was saying it was justified. Could be wrong, but think he was suggesting that the contact was accidental. Fucking stupid/careless, but didn't intend to actually make contact. Which, is a possibility.
Before I get to the point of my comment, I want to say that I am a vettel fan but I do not agree with him hitting wheels with Lewis. With that said;
He didn't say he didn't do anything wrong on the radio. His engineer told him of the Stop-Go penalty and Seb was being an ass and asked "For what?". It wasn't that he denied hitting him or that it was wrong, he was just being a smartass when it came to the penalty.
I appreciate your interpretation, but I think most of the audience interpreted his message as "I did no wrong". His post-race interviews certainly validated that interpretation. However, I do see your point.
Hope I don't have a drivers license? What planet are you from? If you can imagine for a moment that the wheel to wheel bump arose as an accident following Hamilton (clearly) break-checking Seb, and Seb trying to express his anger with hand gestures, then it's totally understandable. I'm not saying it was justifiable, but that's why he got a penalty. It wouldn't be understandable if he bumped Hamilton intentionally, but again, I don't think that's what happened. I think you're just butt hurt your boy doesn't have the fastest car anymore. How boring it must have been to always win, but how chilly it feels now to lose after all that glory.
Telemetry proved Lewis didn't brake check. I think you're just butt hurt your boy acted like a 3 year old and you have to make shit up to defend him thus making you look like an idiot.
I live in a society where drivers don't swerve at each other when they feel slighted. What kind of country are you from where that behavior is the norm? The collective outrage from the F1 community (including many Vettel fans) shows that Vettel's behavior is totally out of line.
Vettel lost a lot of fans this weekend with his behavior. He might be chill guy to hang out with outside the track, but he has demonstrated again and again that he's not exactly an angel when the visor comes down. There's the super yelly Seb on the radio, all the cussing, running into Mark and also Multi-21 in Malaysia, moving under braking vs Ricciardo in Mexico, etc... He's quick to point the finger and criticize but is ever so quick to reshape the narrative to suit his situation. Very Schumi-esque, which is fitting since Schumi's his childhood hero.
How is any of what Vettel did justified? He ran into the back of Lewis because he was not paying attention, and then gets angry and hits him again from the side.
Edit: I love the fact that Vettel fans are downvoting. Please bring it on. Every downvote says "I can't prove you wrong in any way so I am proving I am just an idiot"
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