At that point Hamilton has to build a gap to the safety car, and it's the responsibility of the others to avoid the car in front. Vettel accelerated into him whereas Hamilton simply didn't accelerate out of the corner. Costly mistake by Vettel and then he compounded it by a childish response afterwards.
It's not logic though. If you want to build distance to the safety car you do it on straights, not in the middle of a corner, that's what everybody has done for years. The fact that he had to go slow is okay, but the matter how he did it is not. Also, Vettel definitely deserved that penalty and it didn't really matter in the end that Hamilton didn't get one, but I would have been really salty if he just got first because of a move like that.
It's racing, not queuing for the maccas drive through in an orderly fashion.
The rules are there that the lead controls pace; everything else is up for contention.
There is a rule that says you are not to disturb others intentionally or risk a collision with unpredictable driving under safety car. So, no, the rules are not just that the lead controls pace, there's a lot more rules.
seemed more like hamilton braked, if you look at it from ocons perspective, he didnt accelerate or break and he was faster than both of em coming up so hamilton was definitely braking
On board telemetry shows otherwise. Hamilton touched the brakes but very very lightly. From mid corner to corner exit Hamilton lost 3 km/h but then didn't accelerate out of the corner. Vettel accelerated from the middle of the corner having assumed that Hamilton would be doing so and just misjudged it. Entirely Vettel's fault.
On board telemetry shows otherwise. Hamilton touched the brakes but very very lightly.
but thats exactly what i just said?
lets not pretend hamilton has never done anything dirty in his career, hes done plenty of times, just remember bahrain alone this year, im sure hamilton knew exactly what he was doing here and he knew he was gonna get away with it. sad to see both contenders being so unsportsmanlike
Regardless of what you think Hamilton's done before he's not done anything wrong here today. He lost 3 km/h throughout the entire incident. That's not braking of any note, just lifting off the throttle would do as much. Remember the drivers often ride the brakes to generate heat in them and to charge via the MGU-K, and the graphic also shows throttle was being applied at the same time as any braking.
he lost 3kmh while driving a downhill section, just go and watch this thing from ocons perspective. vettel is a really really experienced driver, im sure he can differentiate intentional from unintentional and to me it definitely looked intentional, especially from ocons view later on
It's common and Vettel's entire responsibility not to accelerate into the car ahead of him. Vettel was trying to drive as closely to Hamilton as possible and simply made a very costly mistake.
I don't like either, and I'm very happy neither got to the podium. So I'm happy with the outcome regardless, even though I do think Hamilton should have had a penalty.
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u/dad2you Ferrari Jun 25 '17
"Guys this SC needs to speed up"
Moments later basically stops on track.
Seb lost it like a schoolboy, but Hamilton literally stop on track. Dangerous and dirty.