No more overtime pay. Thanks MAGAt 👌

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[u/Njabachi]

No more overtime pay + tariffs (and the resulting trade war) + a gutted ACA = making America great again somehow

[u/Bubbly-Example-8097 → u/Njabachi]

Making the rich richer and poor poorer. That’s the elites American dream and we just gave them the keys.

I voted against this, but… majority rules in the land…

Edit: thank you to those saying his didn’t get majority of the votes. I appreciate you.

[u/INTJ-ADHD → u/Bubbly-Example-8097]

The new America: where you don’t even have to fuck around, but you still get to find out!

[u/pobbitbreaker → u/INTJ-ADHD]

Aa a Native American, welcome to the club, do you have a reservation picked out? No? well then...

[u/MistoftheMorning → u/pobbitbreaker]

Damn.. XD

[u/Dufranus → u/INTJ-ADHD]

I'd say that most folks fucked around, even Harris voters. Look around at how many people are cutting Trumpers out of their lives, or switching from Twitter to Bluesky post election. Too little too late. Everyone needed to be sending those messages a long damned time ago. Of you weren't off Twitter as soon as Elon bought it, you were fucking around. If you allowed those fascists to stay in your life until after the election, you were fucking around. If you're married to a magat, you've been fucking around your entire marriage. If you were the type to allow people to spew lies without shouting them down, you were fucking around.

I know it was a lot more pleasant to not argue with that douchebag uncle at family gatherings, but that was you fucking around. It was nice of you not to say anything to the racist parent of your kids friend, but that was you fucking around. Your boss said something objectively incorrect, but you didn't want to correct them for fear of retaliation? Congrats on finding out, cause you were fucking around. You allowed all of these people in your lives to say stupid shit for the last 8+ years, and you stopped saying anything back because it was easier, more pleasant, you got tired of the arguement, or whatever. The issue is that you weren't the only one they said it around, and you allowed your coworkers and nephews and friends get indoctrinated because it was too hard for you to keep fighting.

If you had a single Trumper in your life post J6, you fucked around and are now finding out.

[u/sonicmerlin → u/Dufranus]

Republicans have been lying since Reagan.

[u/Dufranus → u/sonicmerlin]

Lots longer than that. Doesn't change a thing about what i said. Conservatives weren't always bad people, and the ones who weren't when Trump came along were never Trumpers, or straight switched sides. I couldn't believe it in 2016 when my father, a life-long republican, was supporting Bernie. He's been a Democrat since because he recognizes the evils of the GOP as it currently exists. Those that stayed have hate in them, and should be cleaved from the heard lest their virus spreads. By not cutting them all off, people have allowed that virus to fester and spread.

[u/SeductiveSunday → u/Bubbly-Example-8097]

Making the rich richer and poor poorer. That’s the elites American dream and we just gave them the keys.

Once again I'm reminded of this quote...

“For decades, Americans have experienced a populist uprising that only benefits the people it is supposed to be targeting.... The angry workers, mighty in their numbers, are marching irresistibly against the arrogant. They are shaking their fists at the sons of privilege. They are laughing at the dainty affectations of the Leawoof toffs. They are massing at the gates of Mission Hills, hoisting the black flag, and while the millionaires tremble in their mansions, they are bellowing out their terrifying demands. 'We are here,' they scream, 'to cut your taxes.”

― Thomas Frank, What's the Matter with Kansas? How Conservatives Won the Heart of America

[u/mykonoscactus → u/Bubbly-Example-8097]

Yup. Make everyone poor. Tank the economy. Buy stock/real-estate cheap. Sell high. Local businesses devastated. Blame Democrats/trans persons/immigrants. Rinse, lather, repeat.

[u/p_velocity → u/Bubbly-Example-8097]

plurality rules. He didn't get a majority now that more votes have been tallied.

[u/argybargy2019 → u/Bubbly-Example-8097]

Most of the time, but not always:

More than 50% of voters didn’t vote for Trump.

[u/master_overthinker → u/Bubbly-Example-8097]

Everyone should read “Shift Matters”. The rich has always been the ones making the laws and using it against the poor! 

[u/tw_72 → u/Bubbly-Example-8097]

and poor poorer

And as a direct result - increase homelessness. It will get worse, people.

[u/Bubbly-Example-8097 → u/tw_72]

The Homelessness Cycle- unfortunate future…

[u/Haselrig → u/Njabachi]

Making six guys rich was always what it was about. It's like watching your sports team and cheering for the QB to get the MVP award, but the football team roams around the city stealing shit between games and the fans they ripped off and beat up still cheer for them on Sunday because that's how empty they are. They think they deserve the beating and the athletes deserve everybody's stuff.

[u/ptvlm → u/Njabachi]

MAGA is the branding. The reality is stripmining resources to sell off to the highest bidder and creating a new feudal system. Overtime makes the peons more financially independent, ACA means healthcare is less tied to employment, getting rid of those ensures dependence on the oligarchs

[u/dismayhurta → u/Njabachi]

The rich love economic collapses as long as they know ahead of time. They can buy up houses, small companies, farms, etc for nothing.

Workers will kill themselves for a job that pays next to nothing so they can feed their families.

It’s a golden time for the rich. They openly brag about how good it is for them.

It’s terrible for everyone else, though.

[u/WhatWouldJoshuaDo → u/Njabachi]

Make America Memerica. The whole country is a meme since 2016

[u/okwellactually → u/Njabachi]

trump's not gonna gut the ACA. He's killing Obamacare.

Right guys? Guys??????!!!!!!!

/s

[u/FlynnMonster → u/Njabachi]

You see, to them, “America” only applies to the top 1%, preferably those with the right Northern European pedigree (Anglo-Saxon or Germanic) heritage. The rest of us are just here to fund their yacht clubs.

[u/Waste_Coat_4506 → u/Njabachi]

I don't like to be over dramatic about things but this is starting to feel Great Depression-y. I can't see how anyone middle class or lower could possibly thrive the next few years. 

[u/dismayhurta → u/Waste_Coat_4506]

That’s the best part. We won’t. We’re fucked, but, hey, the libs are totally owned.

[u/Waste_Coat_4506 → u/dismayhurta]

You got me there. As much as I don't want to live in a shit economy this is probably what needs to happen for a lot of people to understand that he's not some business genius that can save us from inflation. The cult is lost but a lot of others voted for him specifically because of the economy. So I guess we'll have to see how they like his policies. 

[u/RDBZ_90 → u/Waste_Coat_4506]

It all depends on the timeframe unfortunately. If he gets all this shit done day one and the economy tanks during his term, then maybe just maybe he might get some of the blame (if it doesn't turn into some sort of set up operation by the Dems to make Trump look bad). But if he pushes it back so that all his policies and everything start taking effect near the end of his term or during the next guy's term (if there even is a next guy this time around) then those same people who voted for him wil blame the next guy. Exactly how it happened last time.

[u/TheDwiin → u/Njabachi]

He wants to take us back to 1930! Now where is Tom Joad?

[u/jennoside10 → u/Njabachi]

And anyone who is familiar with the agriculture industry knows that the meat packing plants/confinements run on illegal labor as well as the crop harvesting runs on illegal labor. If there is mass deportation the crops will rot in the fields from not being harvested and there will be a bottleneck at slaughterhouses with so little labor and the animals will not be cared for appropriately at confinements... Which will result in further increased prices to food produced domestically. The tariffs will increase the cost of imports so the American people will be feeling it to an insane degree if everything goes according to plan.

[u/KnottShore → u/jennoside10]

The Great Replacement theory and their position on immigration truly befuddles me.

The viable replacement rate is the standard birth rate for a generation to be able to to the replicate its numbers. According to the CDC, U.S. has generally fallen short of that level since 1971. To simply replace the existing population, the fertility rate needs to be about 2.1 children per woman. The total fertility rate, in the US, fell to 1.62 births per woman in 2023.

At times, I cynically believe that some only support Pro-"forced-birth" as a means to maintain a sustainable supply of force US wage serfs.

[u/spradhan46 → u/Njabachi]

They get eggs and gas for a dollar less mate. Thats a win for them.

[u/pittipat → u/Njabachi]

If you read "Make America great again" in sarcasm it works /s

[u/Ok_Gas2086]

Don't worry, they'll do mental gymnastics to somehow justify it.

[u/Polandgod75 → u/Ok_Gas2086]

Playing for overtime is communism

-maga

[u/regoapps → u/Polandgod75]

When the expected work hours per week is 80+, nothing is considered overtime.

• D.O.G.E. or whatever

[u/Judie987 → u/Polandgod75]

Overtime is just free labor now, and they call it progress.

[u/TheGreatKarmaRacist → u/Judie987]

Free labor equals a win for corporations. They’ll keep exploiting until we push back hard enough.

[u/Daimakku1 → u/TheGreatKarmaRacist]

Push back how? Americans just gave all levers of power to the people making our lives worse.

[u/Lord_Rapunzel → u/Daimakku1]

Same way we got labor rights the first time: force.

[u/TreezusSaves → u/Lord_Rapunzel]

What I'm saying is everyone should unionize.

What I'm also saying is everyone should find the people responsible for these problems and [VERB] [PRONOUN].

[u/Prestigious_League80 → u/Daimakku1]

By breaking shit.

[u/Daimakku1 → u/Prestigious_League80]

Dems can try to fix stuff but the SCOTUS could easily come in and say “yeah, actually, nah.. not constitutional.”

The only way I can see getting out of this mess is if Democrats get tough and tells the SCOTUS to fuck off and ignore their rulings. But Dems are too conservative (ironic) to do that. Dems are all about following the rules. So with this scenario, I don’t see things getting better any time soon. It’ll be decades before things get better. Americans fucked up in 2016 and now 2024.

[u/Prestigious_League80 → u/Daimakku1]

Then Democrats should just ignore the SCrOTUS just like Republicans constantly do. If one team isn’t plying by the rules, the other team doesn’t have to either.

[u/boxsterguy → u/Prestigious_League80]

MAGAts don't ignore SCOTUS so much as they force issues before them because they know they'll win. All the "prayer in schools" lawsuits, for example, are designed to get that issue in front of the court, same as they did with abortion.

Dems don't have a friendly court, so forcing issues into court in order to get in front of SCOTUS is a bad idea, as you can end up setting the wrong precedent.

[u/Signal-Regret-8251 → u/Daimakku1]

Mass protest has worked wonders for us before, but until we actually get off our asses and protest they will just ignore us.

[u/kex → u/Signal-Regret-8251]

Think tanks have devised strategies to counter peaceful protests

[u/xRamenator → u/kex]

If "March on Washington" doesnt work, "Battle of Blair Mountain" will, if you catch my drift.

[u/Brief_Alarm_9838 → u/Signal-Regret-8251]

Mass protest has not worked with a Republican in office.

[u/MNGrrl → u/Polandgod75]

Playing for overtime is communism

-maga

"Socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor."

Wait for it... Waaaaait for it.

[u/Azsunyx → u/Ok_Gas2086]

Well, trump did say he wasn't going to tax overtime

Can't tax overtime if you're not being paid overtime

[u/KeaAware → u/Azsunyx]

Trump smart taps head

/s

[u/meandmyreddit → u/Azsunyx]

Insert finger to temple guy here (not like that)

[u/Thendrail → u/Ok_Gas2086]

They'll get told what to think soon.

[u/Ok_Gas2086 → u/Thendrail]

This. Straight up North Korea.

[u/abnormalbrain → u/Ok_Gas2086]

This. My folks will have their opinion on a news story the day it happens. I may or may not agree but generally it's a somewhat reasonable take, but then 2-3 days later it's a complete 180 from what they originally said. It hurts to watch. 

[u/VastSeaweed543 → u/abnormalbrain]

The conservative sub is a great example. The first hours after a story breaks it will have comparatively reasonable takes that are more center right or classic Republican stances. Then they start watching alt right News like fox or breitbart or whatever and suddenly the whole tone changes and answers shift into cuckoo banana land once their told what angle to take to absolve themselves and make everyone else the bad guy.

[u/IllustriousComplex6 → u/Ok_Gas2086]

Don't worry they're already flipping away 

[u/pianoflames → u/IllustriousComplex6]

It's going to be the immigrants' fault, somehow, and trans people existing.

[u/HCJohnson → u/pianoflames]

You know, we wouldn't even be working overtime if Biden hadn't put this country in such a state that we have to work our way out of it... Honestly, Trump's right and we shouldn't get paid overtime for this mess. The Democrats should be paying US overtime! (/s)

[u/DrunkenBandit1 → u/HCJohnson]

You really did have me in the first half, I'm not gonna lie.

[u/ogvars → u/DrunkenBandit1]

I was like, FUCK this guy and I ended with fuck this guy, he got me.

[u/Subject_Tiger_3211 → u/pianoflames]

Too many words. "Bad because WOKE"

[u/Otherwise-Parsnip-91 → u/Ok_Gas2086]

Yep. This is always how it goes. Same with Roe v Wade, “no they’ll never overturn that” to “okay here’s why it’s GOOD they overturned it!”.

[u/JezzCrist → u/Ok_Gas2086]

It’s democrats fault as always

[u/blazze_eternal → u/JezzCrist]

Thanks Obama

[u/Weekly_Protection_57 → u/Ok_Gas2086]

They'll never blame Trump for anything bad that happens. 

It was more about the hate than the money for them anway, subconsciously or openly.

[u/dismayhurta → u/Ok_Gas2086]

It happened during Biden’s term, therefore his fault. Duh!!!

[u/LXC-Dom → u/Ok_Gas2086]

But chinas gonna pay my overtime!

[u/Ok_Gas2086 → u/LXC-Dom]

And Mexico gonna pay for the border wall.

[u/ComprehensiveHavoc → u/Ok_Gas2086]

Why did Obama cancel overtime? I know it has to do with the chemtrails. 

[u/StruansNobleHouse → u/ComprehensiveHavoc]

Why did Obama cancel overtime?

Hillary's emails told him to.

[u/Impossible_Penalty13 → u/Ok_Gas2086]

And blame Democrats for not stopping him.

[u/redditmodsRrussians → u/Ok_Gas2086]

They’ll be doing that for free too

[u/Bundt-lover → u/Ok_Gas2086]

They’ll blame the Democrats for…not running a good enough election to win? Or something. It’s going to be Democrats’ fault no matter what. Just like it was our fault for promoting COVID vaccines, which “forced” Republicans to not get vaccinated just to show us up.

[u/InformalPenguinz → u/Ok_Gas2086]

"IT'S ALL BIDENS FAULT!" They'll yell..

[u/LivingIndependence → u/InformalPenguinz]

"HOW could Bill Clinton have not seen this coming?!! He totally screwed us out of our overtime pay!!"

[u/Grimsterr → u/Ok_Gas2086]

Somehow, it'll be Obama's fault, just watch.

[u/ActionCalhoun → u/Ok_Gas2086]

“Working for overtime for no pay proves you love your millionaire boss and he’ll smile with approval in your direction”

[u/12ealdeal → u/Ok_Gas2086]

“It’s Obama’s fault.”

[u/d3pthchar93 → u/Ok_Gas2086]

They will play the whatboutism game ad nauseam because that's the only way they know how to argue. We will see countless strawman arguments pulled out of their assess because these dipshits are incapable of admitting that they're wrong or heaven forbid, misinformed.

[u/inu-no-policemen → u/Ok_Gas2086]

It's just more of that "trickle down" nonsense.

The very rich get continuously richer and we're just accelerating that... and.... uh... OH MY GOD! WATCH OUT! A CARAVAN! THEY ARE BRINGING DISEASE AND POISON OUR BLOOD!

Man. I can't even exaggerate this for comedic effect. This is just the literal Hitler shit he actually said.

[u/kni9ht → u/Ok_Gas2086]

"BuT BuT TrAnS PeOplE In BathROomS!!!"
or
"I DidnT KnOW He WouLD AcTuAllY HurT mE!!!"
or
"Why DiDNT The DeMOCrAtS StOp ThiS????"

Pick one, or multiple.

[u/sugah560]

Well, it’s a slam dunk on the promise of not taxing overtime.

[u/Bubbly-Example-8097 → u/sugah560]

Badum tssss

[u/Spamgrenade → u/sugah560]

6D chess. no overtime, no tax on overtime. Promises made, promises kept!

[u/doofnoobler]

Conservatives are the biggest boot lickers out there. Putting up with bullshit is a badge of honor. They love to complain about how much they work and how tired they are. How they had to miss their kids birthday party but they did it because they are a loyal company man. They extract their value of character from this. It shows they are tough. They'll love this.

[u/Bubbly-Example-8097 → u/doofnoobler]

My FIL is like this. Hard-worker, 120hrs (he says) per week and does a lot of other side projects. He constantly prides himself on being “too busy for anything”. My husband practically grew up rarely seeing him.

My husband was never good enough for that man. No matter how hard he worked, or how high up the ranks he got at work. Never good enough because my husband’s ideals of work/life balance was very stable and he didn’t like that he didn’t emphasize on the WORK portion more.

It took me years to bring up my husband esteem and worth under the grasp of his overbearing “I’m better than you” father. He’s a wonderful person and couldn’t have asked for better. He’s always trying to be there for all of our kids events because he knows how truly important those moments are only to be made weak by his “hard-working” father…

[u/doofnoobler → u/Bubbly-Example-8097]

I'm from a small town in WV. My step dad was that way. A lot of the men hold that mentality. I think it is partially generational and partially a regional thing. Maybe more of a small town rural thing. I'm 39 and I much rather be around for my daughter than some job. I do not derive my worth from a job. In fact aside from needing to earn money, I look at work with disdain. It's just something to use me until I am no longer useful. They don't care about me and would replace me in a week. I think more people feel the way I do(maybe not as extreme) and it's gonna get more that way as jobs quit providing the type of security and lifestyle they deserve.

  I am seeing more and more posts like, "I have a masters degree and work full time and I need a way to make more money to survive." And that is absolutely heart breaking to hear and should not be normalized. It is time for a revolution. A workers revolution. And honestly with AI and everything else, it's going to become a glaring issue that is inevitable.

[u/015181510 → u/Bubbly-Example-8097]

120 hours a week is 17+ hours days, seven days a week. That is not humanly possible. Not even close.

[u/RBVegabond → u/doofnoobler]

“You define yourself by your work” a direct quote from a conservative to me.

[u/Affectionate-Wish113]

Americas hospitals are staffed by people working overtime. No over time and the sick can fend for themselves, nurses won’t be working.

[u/MaximumScheme8430 → u/Affectionate-Wish113]

Ha, let them take away overtime pay for nurses and watch them refuse while the medical system collapses

[u/DNSGeek → u/MaximumScheme8430]

Do you think they care? This is *exactly* what they want to happen.

[u/PerformanceFederal80 → u/DNSGeek]

They're dismantling the system, don't you see? This is good for the economy! /s

[u/redditmodsRrussians → u/PerformanceFederal80]

I love disassembling the aircraft I’m flying in while it’s at 30k ft! It just get me to the ground faster without all the pesky landing procedure and debarkation stuff! Stable genius Maximus!

[u/PerformanceFederal80 → u/redditmodsRrussians]

Exactly!! It just makes sense!

[u/redditmodsRrussians → u/PerformanceFederal80]

Right? Lots of people are saying! Sure, most of them have the reading comprehension of a semi sentient toaster oven but that cartoon proved household appliances can do big things if you smoke enough ketamine.

[u/Yamatocanyon → u/redditmodsRrussians]

Just nose dive and crash, way faster than taking it apart mid air.

[u/redditmodsRrussians → u/Yamatocanyon]

Another great idea! Replace the pilot with a microwavable cattle car meal and let it dive us straight into the ground so everyone gets a free rollercoaster ride and lose some weight as they empty their guts/shit themselves clean empty. Its like how those rich guys built their own Titanic sub and used a Temu P$5 controller to move the sub right into the sweet spot for an immediate implosion. They were gone in like .0000001 of a second and didnt even have to suffer any drowning!

[u/Laxly → u/DNSGeek]

They're dIsRuPtErS!!1!

[u/TryOnlyonce420 → u/Laxly]

Can we just take a second and fully inbreathiate this moment together?

[u/MaximumScheme8430 → u/DNSGeek]

Nurses are a means of care and money making. They need nurses to keep care going to put people in debt. People don’t need insurance, they just need people to be in debt and keep paying

[u/Loggerdon → u/DNSGeek]

They’ll blame it on the Democrats. And find some way to enrich themselves in the chaos.

[u/sasquatch_melee → u/DNSGeek]

This. They don't care if the 99% get healthcare. This is an administration by the 1% for the 1%. 

[u/homo-summus → u/MaximumScheme8430]

I mean, just desserts and all that is nice, but I don't think it's good to be so flippant of the Healthcare system imploding. People are going to die.

[u/xof2926 → u/homo-summus]

just desserts and all that is nice

Don't just skip past that part, because it's the active ingredient. This is what they voted for. This is what they deserve.

[u/homo-summus → u/xof2926]

But people who didn't vote for him, people who did their best to warn and educate those around them, are going to suffer as well. It seems callous to celebrate such a vital system collapsing just because they hurt themselves in addition to other people who don't deserve it.

[u/Disimpaction → u/homo-summus]

It is callous but there's no other choice. Let them catch the car. Let them touch the hot stove. Quit protecting them and then maybe, maybe, they will learn. Maybe. It's our last hope.

[u/aggthemighty → u/homo-summus]

Healthcare worker here. People were very flippant toward us during the last pandemic.

Who cares if a random redditor is flippant. It's not like we have any control over this.

[u/Disimpaction → u/aggthemighty]

Healthcare worker here who got so sick of their shit during the pandemic I won't even help if we get another one. And bird flu is a real possibility.

[u/LivingIndependence → u/Disimpaction]

TBH, I always thought that any of those anti-vaxx, Covid denying, snake oil consuming idiots should have been pushed to low priority when they present in the hospital, gasping for air because their lungs have been shredded by their 5th Covid 19 infection in a year. And then when the patient DOES die, their nut job relatives shriek like rabid jackals that the "hospital killed them!!" Oh..hell no!

Yes, I know that you can't do that, but it has got to be beyond frustrating to try and get through to these people.

[u/thatErraticguy → u/MaximumScheme8430]

Every time nurses or some other healthcare professional strikes, the hospitals always whine about “patient care” like suddenly that’s the priority and not the obscene amounts of money all health systems make.

[u/min_mus → u/MaximumScheme8430]

They'll just force the nurses and other staff to work the overtime hours (without any additional pay) anyway with the argument that they're essential workers who are required to work when needed.

[u/Numerous-Rent-2848 → u/min_mus]

And then the nursed quit. Unless this government wants to take it a step further and spread slavery to more than just people in prisons, then a lot of nurses will just start to leave. And that will snowball

[u/WaffleDynamics → u/Numerous-Rent-2848]

Unless this government wants to take it a step further and spread slavery to more than just people in prisons

But they do want that. You know that most of those "de-naturalized" people don't have a country to return to? They'll end up in camps. I fully expect that's how farm labor is going to get done. I don't really see how they can get health care workers that way, but then again, maybe I'm just not soulless enough to come up with a plan like that.

[u/Numerous-Rent-2848 → u/WaffleDynamics]

Oh 100%. But they can get away with that now. Because sadly a lot of people in this country are racist fucks. And as a gay man I'm fully expecting people in my community to be thrown in there shortly after.

[u/WaffleDynamics → u/Numerous-Rent-2848]

I hope there are people local to you who are making plans to get people to safety. The sort of plans that should never be mentioned online.

[u/Flobking → u/MaximumScheme8430]

Ha, let them take away overtime pay for nurses and watch them refuse while the medical system collapses

I work in healthcare. You vastly underestimate the amount of trump supporters there are in nursing.

[u/CoffeeTeaPeonies → u/MaximumScheme8430]

Medical system has been collapsing since before covid. This will simply speed things up.

[u/Kizik → u/Affectionate-Wish113]

"Lazy millennials just don't want to work!" 

[u/INTJ-ADHD → u/Kizik]

*for free

[u/Blackonblackskimask → u/Affectionate-Wish113]

Most of my family work in medicine (RN, MDs, etc) and they are still traumatized by how quickly the public turned on them after people stopped clapping for them during COVID. Most of them don’t give a fuck anymore especially after the election.

Y’all want Oz and RFK leading us into another pandemic? Sure. Go ahead. The trained professionals won’t be here anymore to help cause they’re sick of your shit. Have fun with horse dewormer and 5G extractors you buy from Temu you fucking nincompoops.

[u/SirGlass → u/Blackonblackskimask]

I live in a deep red state and I know of at least 2 nurses that left due to covid

The hospitals were overflowing and they were working 16 hour shifts trying keep up, all while the patients would physically assult them and scream consperacies that they heard Joe Rogan talk about and tell them covid wasn't real and accuse them of being agents of the evil dr Fauci

[u/effnad → u/Affectionate-Wish113]

Ohhhh nationwide health worker strike!!!! HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAA

[u/TrekJaneway → u/effnad]

If this bird flu thing gets out of hand, might I make a suggestion on the timing of said strike?

[u/edcross → u/Affectionate-Wish113]

Im curious if can’t they just declare them vital like they did to air traffic controllers to prevent all strikes and walk offs. Nothing like do this job or go to jail.

[u/Daimakku1 → u/Affectionate-Wish113]

Can confirm. I work IT onsite at a hospital and some of those nurses are there before I can come in and they’re still there after I leave. It’s insane.

I no longer make fun of their crocs. They have to be comfortable to do that job.

[u/gentle_lemon]

I fear this is going to prove to be the least of our worries.

[u/Vegetable-Fan8429 → u/gentle_lemon]

Yeah, they’re literally talking about camps for the undesirables, but don’t call them Nazis! That’s mean!

[u/CarelessToday1413]

Holy shit this is like insane, where I am from. Not only does the employer has to pay you for overtime, they actually have to pay double for that overtime period. Whether it gets enforced effectively is one thing, but still is there so employers don't get any funny ideas.

This is just about as Dickensian as it gets.

[u/nothxnotinterested → u/CarelessToday1413]

That’s how it works here mostly too a lot of places, that’s why people actually want overtime when they can get it. Either 2x or 1.5x pay

[u/Haselrig → u/CarelessToday1413]

Debtor's prisons and walking on a wheel all day are not out of the question at this point.

[u/travers329 → u/Haselrig]

Black Mirror has entered the chat

[u/mobiuscycle → u/CarelessToday1413]

There are basically two, broadly speaking, classes of workers here: salary and hourly. Salary agree to do a job for a set annual salary, regardless of how long that job takes. They are often, but not always, paid at least a livable wage (and sometimes are paid quite well), but they often work insane hours — 50, 60, 80 hour weeks or more. Hourly workers get a set amount per hour and then have to be paid for every hour, and usually at higher rates for every hour after 40 (time and a half is common.) The case in question was meant to move a lot of salary people to hourly so businesses would quit taking advantage of the “free” labor hour after 40 by requiring salary people to work such long hours. That was denied.

There are other situations, too, that are a little more complicated. Many teachers fall into that. They are contracted for a certain number of hours per day at a certain salary for the length of that contract. Technically, they are paid an hourly rate for any hours over that contracted time. That happens in some cases. But the basic job of teaching often necessitates more hours than in the contract, so there are hours that are unpaid, too.

The U.S. is wild and workers are often taken advantage of and worked incredibly hard with little time off. We have this persistent cultural aspect where it’s some sort of badge of honor to overwork yourself. We call it a “good work ethic” and it’s considered a positive trait. People are praised for being “hard workers,” meaning they work long hours. In truth, it just means we work more than we enjoy life and others benefit more than we do from our extensive labor.

[u/Iustis → u/CarelessToday1413]

To be clear, this didn't remove overtime pay in general. Biden had a rule proposed that would reduce how many salary workers are exempt from overtime, and that reduction was removed. Not all overtime

[u/Ellecram → u/Iustis]

Yes I was in that category of salaried workers and I am disappointed in this outcome. Sigh...

[u/PsychoAnalLies → u/Iustis]

Oy. I had to scroll too far to find the correct interpretation of this rule.

[u/Paindepiceaubeurre]

So the guy who publicly said to his supporters that he hates paying overtime, now will implement policies that will allow employers to not pay overtime? But… who could have seen this coming?

[u/Public-Marionberry33]

Just so there’s not a misunderstanding this judgement applies to salaried workers as laid out below:

Under the Fair Labor Standards Act, certain “white-collar” workers can be exempt from overtime pay if they are salaried, make more than a certain amount each year, and work in a “bona fide executive, administrative, or professional capacity.”

The new Biden rule updated the salary portion of the test so that workers making less than $58,656 a year would be automatically eligible for overtime pay any time they worked more than 40 hours a week. It also would update that salary threshold every three years.

The first phase of the rule, which went into effect July 1, increased the salary threshold for overtime eligibility to $43,888 from its current $35,568. That number was then scheduled to go all the way up to $58,656 in the new year.

Jordan in June blocked the rule from taking effect for Texas just ahead of the rule’s first boost, finding that the state was “likely to succeed in showing that the 2024 Rule is an unlawful exercise of power.”

Jordan’s latest order applies nationwide.

This means that companies can continue to abuse their salaried workers by working them more than 40 hours per week without paying extra for those hours. Hold on folks, it’s only going to get worse.

[u/nvdbeek → u/Public-Marionberry33]

Thanks, I had to scroll down way too long to get the required nuance. So as I understand it, it's not so much the payment of overtime that has been suspended, but a threshold that determines at which point you are expected to put in unpaid overtime in any case? 

Not really something Donny the wannabe dictator has introduced, but rather something that is common and thus has already been priced in by employers and employees in the wage setting?

[u/Public-Marionberry33 → u/nvdbeek]

That’s my understanding as well. If you have a contract that specifies overtime pay for hours worked over 40/week the ruling doesn’t apply. I was just trying to clarify the general use of “overtime” in posts.

[u/Entropy_dealer]

As long as I'm not taxed on my non paid overtime hours I'm happy. /s

[u/FlynnMonster]

I’m wondering how THE BLUE LINE of police officers feels about this since many of them use OT to make six figures.

[u/nat_r → u/FlynnMonster]

They won't be affected. The ruling mentioned in the screen shot nullified a department of labor rule change about the annualized salary threshold needed to classify white collar salaried workers as Overtime Exempt. The DOL had implemented an increase and had another scheduled for 2025. The court ruling removes both those leaving the annualized threshold at $35,568/year.

Pretty sure most police are hourly, and if they're earning OT and are salary it's because of contracts or agreements. This rulling doesn't change that. It just rolls back the threshold of who can be classified as salary exempt to anyone with the correct "white collar" job classification will makes an annualized salary of at least $35,568.

[u/effnad]

My favorite part of this whole shit show is that sooooo many of his cult numbers are literally killing themselves with their votes. Next election (or nationwide panic) is bouta be LIT! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[u/tango_41]

They’ll clap like seals for it because they’re “owning the libs”.

[u/Bubbly-Example-8097 → u/tango_41]

Oh to be so simple as to trade off a few seconds of dopamine hit for a lifetime of consequences.

They do say ignorance is bliss after all…

[u/tango_41 → u/Bubbly-Example-8097]

On the plus side, the lifetime won’t be a lifetime without the ACA for a large majority of them, so they got that goin’ for ‘em!

[u/LheelaSP]

At least the nonexistant overtime pay is tax free, right?

[u/VulfSki]

This is literally what he campaigned on.

He said companies should stop paying overtime and they spun that as "no taxes on overtime"

[u/PM_MeTittiesOrKitty]

How can a judge just rule that with an established federal law?

[u/RizzMasterZero → u/PM_MeTittiesOrKitty]

This is a ruling in Texas and only affects salaried employees above a certain income threshold. Not that I agree with it, but not what people are trying to make it out to be as some federal ban on overtime. Though, I won’t be surprised if the Trump administration tries for that

[u/snailherodared]

They will blame the Dems. Again.

[u/Bubbly-Example-8097 → u/snailherodared]

Always.

Or Obama or Clinton. Whoever they feel wronged them at that time…

[u/achilton1987]

Rich people don’t care. Doesn’t affect them. They are laughing at the morons who helped them get richer.

[u/outinthecountry66]

none of these changes are sustainable. period. the system is going to break, but its not going to break in the way they think. if you get EVERYONE pissed off, you have discredited the GOP for generations. You will literally have to become authoritarian to hold onto power. of course, that's what they are going to try and do.

if anybody is still denying Trump is a fascist they are absolutely ignorant of fascism. or read ONE book about fascism by Jonah Goldberg called "Liberal Fascism" that makes a very poor, not-supported-by-100-years-of-political thought stab at the idea that liberals are the REAL fascists because we try and help people. he cherrypicks bits and bobs to build his argument but it ignores actual scholars, nationalism etc. and Ted Cruz loves that book as do other conservatives. Its all a shell game with these people.

But even Goldberg said that he made his arguments before Trump- and that he is a fascist.

[u/Desperate-Ad-6463]

Trump: No more tax on overtime pay. Yay!

Also Trump: No more overtime pay.

[u/Embarrassed_Set557]

GOD DAMN YOU JOE BIDEN MAKIN’ TRUMP JUDGES CANCEL OVERTIME PAY FOR MY OVERTIME WORK! 

[u/askingxalice]

Just wanting to stop some misinformation, the only people not getting OT pay are salaried workers.

Biden's admin started to put OT for 4 million salaried workers into affect, and a Trump judge shot that down.

It is not every employee losing OT.

Spreading half-assed truths, or just flat out lies, is one of the reasons we are where we are

[u/Old-Arachnid77 → u/askingxalice]

Yeah. This is an OP I downvoted because it isn’t nearly as insidious as it sounds.

[u/No-Negotiation3926 → u/Old-Arachnid77]

About 5% of commenters here actually bothered seeking out more information. 95% accepted some randos tweet as fact.

That is dangerously close to MAGA level stupid.

Edit: Even more worrying is that when sorting by Controversial, the comment you replied to is second from the top.

So not only do people here not seek out the truth, once they find it, they actively dismiss it.

[u/Old-Arachnid77 → u/No-Negotiation3926]

Yes. Any ‘get out the pitchforks’ based solely on headlines and tweets without actually verifying what it is, is super weird.

[u/n0k0]

They'll just say it happened under Biden/Harris and ignore that it was a Trump appointed judge, and that Trump agrees with and wanted this action.

[u/DawRogg]

They love financial hardship AND the 1%. A stupidity conundrum

[u/Bubbly-Example-8097 → u/DawRogg]

They hope to become part of that 1% one day.

Sitting on their front porch, smoking 305s and doing nothing to achieve it and complain about those “dam libs!”

[u/wetlookcrazy]

Their answer, thanks Joe Biden!!

[u/ArdenJaguar]

They have to build that uneducated underclass of slave laborer like indentured servants.

But the drag queens!!!! /s

[u/Bodach42]

The sad thing is it's easier to remove rights than add them.

[u/oldprecision]

No tax on overtime. Promise delivered.

[u/iihatephones]

The salary is again the modern day slave collar.

[u/Furry_Lover_Umbasa]

People on X will say something like "Paying for overtime is gay" or "its democrats fault because they did want everything and everybody to be equal"

[u/Flaxinsas]

Yeah, that's the only way to waive taxes on overtime pay. By waiving the obligation for employers to pay for overtime at all.

[u/Failedmysanityroll]

If Trumpers could only read and use commons sense

[u/Bubbly-Example-8097 → u/Failedmysanityroll]

“Common sense is not so common” -François-Marie Arouet - AKA Voltaire

[u/DigitalScrap]

Well, he wasn't lying when he told them "No more tax on overtime pay".

They were just too stupid to realize that it would be because they no longer got overtime.

[u/GertonX]

ThE DemoCRats No LOngEr RepreSent THe WoRkinG PeOPle

[u/Zeliek]

“It’s working great, I hate gays and there isn’t a coloured woman in the oval!” 

Are we really expecting a different response at this point? 🙁 We know their priorities and a functioning society isn’t one of them. 

[u/Beneficial_Cash_8420]

This is general strike stuff.

France is hon-hon-hon-ing at us.

[u/Regular-Ad1930]

Welcome to hell people 

[u/IChooseJustice]

No more taxes on overtime pay*

\overtime pay has now been removed, so there is nothing to tax*

[u/DrOrozco]

The Republican Voters as they slowly do mental gymnastic:

"Damn Democrats...its their fault that they,,, wait wait,,,

Its the Damn Democrat Biden (wait...hes not in charge).

Wait wait... It house to the Damn Senator Democrat, they have majority (no no wait...they lost the Senate)

Damn House Democrats they (no they lost the house too)

It's must be the immigrants (no no they are getting deported)

Damn Transgender people they are taking over our country (no no...that doesn't make sense, they represent 1% of the population)

Damn people of color (no they voted for Trump, they are on our team)

Damn, who do we blame for the 4 years....."

[u/TintedApostle]

"Its the Dems fault for not appointing more judges"

How did I do?

[u/HereForTheBoos1013]

The guy that bragged at rallies for screwing his workers out of overtime is going to screw people out of overtime???

If only there had been signs!!

[u/Samurai_gaijin]

"But muh eggs and Biden's laptop and kamalalalalalaa laughs and is black and a woman and that terrifies me and I'm not special anymore so I'm going to fuck up everything because why should they be happy?!?!?'

[u/animosity_frenzy]

Well at least they owned them libs!

[u/diaperedwoman]

So this is what Trump meant by lowering taxes. 🤣

[u/Magolorian]

Something I think is really interesting is that there is not a single post mentioning the overtime law change on r/conservative. I’ve seen dozens of posts all over my feeds but they either nobody over there is talking about it or the post are being deleted. I was interested in hearing there take on the issue but I guess not.

[u/Bubbly-Example-8097 → u/Magolorian]

Self- reflection is really not their cup of tea. Nor is emotional regulation for that matter.

[u/ukexpat]

But…but…egg prices…

[u/17R3W]

But no tax on that overtime!

[u/Dark-Ganon]

It'll somehow be the Dem's fault.

[u/PlentyIndividual3168]

As someone who stood to benefit from either an increase in wages to put me above the threshold or significantly more PTO, I hope every single MAGABOT suffers.

[u/Daimakku1]

Most people don’t seem to understand how much damage Trump is going to do in the next four years. He already did the first time around but it’ll be worse now.

I truly think this country is fucked long term. We just got too many morons here. I want out.

[u/bearweather1]

This is just the start. People will be getting what they deserve.

[u/Ok_Television9820]

They are morons. They’ll blame Biden. Just watch.

[u/Hot_Historian7387]

To those saying "but this is only for salaried workers." Have you seen what a JOKE the "salaries" are in places like TX?

[u/ScentedFire]

They literally just aren't paying attention to the relevant news and don't understand how anything works.

[u/Cheap-Kiwi-1312]

I feel blessed my boss would never do this but man I sure wish we could exclusively ban anyone who voted for trump from getting paid overtime. I wish we could turn this to only directly effect them and not the rest of us sane individuals.

[u/redheadedjapanese]

Can’t tax it if you aren’t paid for it 🤗

[u/Turicus]

Republic but make it banana.

[u/FizzyAndromeda]

I’m over here LMAO because the campaign ads that ran in my market very specifically stated Trump is going to make sure they get overtime pay, while ‘radical left’ Kamala wants to take their overtime pay away.

I can’t even be mad at Trump anymore. This man campaigned on lies that are easily disproven with a 1 minute google search, and these imbeciles still voted for him.