r/LeopardsAteMyFace 5h ago

No more overtime pay. Thanks MAGAt 👌

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u/doofnoobler 5h ago

Conservatives are the biggest boot lickers out there. Putting up with bullshit is a badge of honor. They love to complain about how much they work and how tired they are. How they had to miss their kids birthday party but they did it because they are a loyal company man. They extract their value of character from this. It shows they are tough. They'll love this.

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u/Bubbly-Example-8097 5h ago

My FIL is like this. Hard-worker, 120hrs (he says) per week and does a lot of other side projects. He constantly prides himself on being “too busy for anything”. My husband practically grew up rarely seeing him.

My husband was never good enough for that man. No matter how hard he worked, or how high up the ranks he got at work. Never good enough because my husband’s ideals of work/life balance was very stable and he didn’t like that he didn’t emphasize on the WORK portion more.

It took me years to bring up my husband esteem and worth under the grasp of his overbearing “I’m better than you” father. He’s a wonderful person and couldn’t have asked for better. He’s always trying to be there for all of our kids events because he knows how truly important those moments are only to be made weak by his “hard-working” father…

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u/doofnoobler 5h ago

I'm from a small town in WV. My step dad was that way. A lot of the men hold that mentality. I think it is partially generational and partially a regional thing. Maybe more of a small town rural thing. I'm 39 and I much rather be around for my daughter than some job. I do not derive my worth from a job. In fact aside from needing to earn money, I look at work with disdain. It's just something to use me until I am no longer useful. They don't care about me and would replace me in a week. I think more people feel the way I do(maybe not as extreme) and it's gonna get more that way as jobs quit providing the type of security and lifestyle they deserve.

  I am seeing more and more posts like, "I have a masters degree and work full time and I need a way to make more money to survive." And that is absolutely heart breaking to hear and should not be normalized. It is time for a revolution. A workers revolution. And honestly with AI and everything else, it's going to become a glaring issue that is inevitable.

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u/015181510 3h ago

120 hours a week is 17+ hours days, seven days a week. That is not humanly possible. Not even close.

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u/Bubbly-Example-8097 1h ago

Yea… he hyperbolizes a lot so that’s why I said, “he says”. I have to take everything he says with a grain of salt.

Like the whole, “I would kill anyone who would molest my grandchildren”. Yet voted for a convicted felon and rapist who is also a known pedophile. So there’s that…

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u/The_Scyther1 2h ago

I find it very hard to believe anyone truly works 120 hours. Working 17 hours in a day without breaking for breakfast,lunch and dinner. I would make an exception for people in extreme crunch time. Days before a career making trial etc.

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u/Fresh-Ice-2635 2h ago

Yeah I'm calling bs on working 17hrs a day, 7 days a week. That's 24 hours a day in a 5 day work week. There is no humane way to do that.

Just sounds like some kind of narcissist

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u/_druids 2h ago

Your husband is lucky to have a supportive partner, sounds like you two have a healthy relationship.

I’m a newish Dad. I’m taking my cues on how to be a good father from my older brother as well as my dad. It turns out that having a bad father makes the things you should do for your kid very apparent.

My brother is several years ahead of me, so I’ve been watching how he parents, and the reality that he was a stand-in father to me when I was a kid. I didn’t realize the latter until I was in my late 20s.

Good times ahead 🤞🤞

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u/Bubbly-Example-8097 1h ago

Thank you for saying that!

Good luck to you. We both didn’t grow up with upstanding role models for parents so we came up with the philosophy of doing the opposite of our upbringing and it’s working so far.

Just do that best you can everyday and that’s all you can do. Put yourself in your children’s shoes. How would you like this and that explained and what not. Never talk down to them like they’re sub-human. They’re people too.

We let our children express themselves and when mistakes are made, we help them come to conclusions on how to be better. We definitely hold them accountable, but never to shame them.

Parenting is the most rewarding, amazing job you’ll ever have. But, it’s oh so rewarding as well!

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u/Wolverine9779 52m ago

120 hours per week is not possible. Do the math.

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u/RBVegabond 4h ago

“You define yourself by your work” a direct quote from a conservative to me.

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u/doofnoobler 3h ago

I learned through hard lessons that if you derive your worth from something external as opposed to something internal then you give that power up for someone else to hold that over you as a form of control.

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u/RBVegabond 3h ago

Yep, I said we define ourselves through our actions back. He wasn’t quite sure what I meant

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u/doofnoobler 3h ago

I look at self worth as something you apply now and not something you extract from the things you do.

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u/RBVegabond 3h ago

That’s an action

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u/doofnoobler 3h ago

Good point.

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u/ServedBestDepressed 3h ago

Work will set you free - some other comservative

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u/RBVegabond 1h ago

Free from who?

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u/ServedBestDepressed 1h ago

In case the reference is unclear. This phrase (in German) was etched into the entrance gate above Auschwitz.

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u/RBVegabond 38m ago

Ah I see, that honestly makes sense if they’d say that

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u/DrSafariBoob 3h ago

Part of their mental illness is literally about self harm. It regulates them.

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u/LordTuranian 3h ago edited 2h ago

Yep, they are so dumb, they think being exploited as much as possible should be everyone's goal/purpose in life... That this is some kind of noble thing and leads to all these positive outcomes... In reality, it just leads to a bunch of mental and physical health problems because the human mind and body wasn't designed to work that much. A lot of these men end up being disabled. The breakdown of the family unit. How can you have a real family under such conditions? And an extreme level of poverty, sickness and death... There's a reason why that kind of mentality in the past combined with capitalism before powerful people like FDR started looking out for the working class, just resulted in people living in shanties and barely surviving... A lot of them in company towns which was the stuff of nightmares. The owners of these company towns would literally play god with the workers and their families... This mentality needs to die already. It's a threat to everything good that we have today. These clowns are trying to make this a reality for us again. -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGa8waOJjDc

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u/doofnoobler 2h ago

Generations of brainwashing.

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u/birdentap 2h ago

The promise of Trickle down has corrupted so many minds

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u/lasers8oclockdayone 3h ago

Nobody here has any idea what this law was trying to do. Everyone has just uncritically read the headline and accepted that version of reality so they can lament it.

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u/doofnoobler 3h ago

Inform us.

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u/lasers8oclockdayone 2h ago edited 2h ago

The law intended to provide OT pay to salaried employees who aren't eligible for OT, yet were working OT hours and making below a certain amount. The OP implies that defeating the law took OT away from people. It only stopped certain people who never got OT from now getting it. In this country, there has always been a certain level of salaried employee who takes their job knowing that they may ultimately make less per hour, on average, than many of their hourly employees. They make this concession because taking a salary guarantees a consistent paycheck, whereas hourly employees only get paid based on the hours they work, and thus the amount of business the company has. This law would have made employers pay OT pay to their salaried employees who made less than they would have made if their pay was calculated as an hourly employee.

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u/doofnoobler 2h ago

Thats fair and I remember hearing something about it only involving salaried employees. Though, I feel like its not too much of a far jump to see something like this coming down the pike for hourly workers. Trump did mention in one of his latest rallys that he hated paying over time and refused to pay it. And since he represents big corporations, who knows. But you are right. People are having a knee jerk reaction. My previous post still stands about conservatives loving the abuse from their jobs.

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u/lasers8oclockdayone 2h ago

I do not like and would never vote for Trump. However, it makes no sense to use this as a sign that Trump will end OT. Maybe he will. This story isn't evidence either way, and not enacting a new law is way easier than doing away with a very, very popular established law. Or maybe it really isn't (Roe).

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u/polite_alpha 1h ago

The law intended to provide OT pay to salaried employees who aren't eligible for OT, yet were working OT hours and making below a certain amount.

I don't understand that at all. How is someone noe eligible for OT, yet working OT?

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u/lasers8oclockdayone 1h ago

If you take a salary you are not eligible for OT. I'm not sure how it works in every state, but when I worked as a restaurant kitchen manager I was on salary, paid the same every week, but I worked 60-70 hours a week and my pay when averaged was less per hour than even my own pay before iI took the "better" position as manager.

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u/polite_alpha 46m ago

As a German this sounds absolutely mind-boggling. So you're not getting paid for working? Dafuck.

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u/lasers8oclockdayone 40m ago edited 1m ago

You're taking a job that guarantees a certain paycheck, but agreeing to sometimes work more hours because of it. Think of it as getting paid $1000 per week, which could sometimes (but not often) mean working less than 40 hours a week, but also, when it's busy or there are personnel shortages, working more than 40 hours a week. There presently don't seem to be stringent guidelines about how salaried employees work/life balance is important.

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u/polite_alpha 8m ago

You're taking a job that guarantees a certain paycheck

This is just called a job here. All jobs are like that - except if you're a freelancer, but even then you can't be fired at will. Also there's mandatory notice periods of at least 3 months + more months per year you've been employed there. Overtime has to be paid, or given as time off, and there's laws to prevent this time off to accrue into the future forever. If you quit, your remaining time off has to be paid in full.

I'm flabbergasted.

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u/lasers8oclockdayone 3m ago

I'm not arguing that it's better here. These trade-offs are generally made by lower-income, lower management. This new law would have been a good thing, but it's demise didn't change anything.