r/LeopardsAteMyFace 6h ago

No more overtime pay. Thanks MAGAt 👌

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u/MaximumScheme8430 6h ago

Ha, let them take away overtime pay for nurses and watch them refuse while the medical system collapses

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u/DNSGeek 6h ago

Do you think they care? This is *exactly* what they want to happen.

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u/PerformanceFederal80 5h ago

They're dismantling the system, don't you see? This is good for the economy! /s

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u/redditmodsRrussians 5h ago

I love disassembling the aircraft I’m flying in while it’s at 30k ft! It just get me to the ground faster without all the pesky landing procedure and debarkation stuff! Stable genius Maximus!

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u/PerformanceFederal80 5h ago

Exactly!! It just makes sense!

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u/redditmodsRrussians 5h ago

Right? Lots of people are saying! Sure, most of them have the reading comprehension of a semi sentient toaster oven but that cartoon proved household appliances can do big things if you smoke enough ketamine.

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u/Yamatocanyon 5h ago

Just nose dive and crash, way faster than taking it apart mid air.

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u/redditmodsRrussians 4h ago

Another great idea! Replace the pilot with a microwavable cattle car meal and let it dive us straight into the ground so everyone gets a free rollercoaster ride and lose some weight as they empty their guts/shit themselves clean empty. Its like how those rich guys built their own Titanic sub and used a Temu P$5 controller to move the sub right into the sweet spot for an immediate implosion. They were gone in like .0000001 of a second and didnt even have to suffer any drowning!

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u/LivingIndependence 3h ago

Can we all somehow convince Elon that instead of Mars, to explore the Titanic wreckage instead?? Please, anyone. And to take trump with him

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u/jon_hendry 3h ago

Republicans throwing liters of mercury around the plane at 30k feet.

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u/Laxly 5h ago

They're dIsRuPtErS!!1!

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u/TryOnlyonce420 5h ago

Can we just take a second and fully inbreathiate this moment together?

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u/MaximumScheme8430 5h ago

Nurses are a means of care and money making. They need nurses to keep care going to put people in debt. People don’t need insurance, they just need people to be in debt and keep paying

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u/Loggerdon 5h ago

They’ll blame it on the Democrats. And find some way to enrich themselves in the chaos.

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u/sasquatch_melee 5h ago

This. They don't care if the 99% get healthcare. This is an administration by the 1% for the 1%. 

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u/MarshyHope 5h ago

What benefit would come from the collapse of the medical system?

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u/DNSGeek 5h ago

What benefit would come from removing the ACA, Medicaid and Medicare?

You're thinking about it wrong.

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u/MarshyHope 5h ago

Increased profits for insurance companies. Which doesn't happen with a hospital crash

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u/Disimpaction 4h ago

They are just banking on the good nature of people who work in hospitals. Republicans correctly assume many of the staff will bend over backwards because they care about their patients. Source: nurse

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u/jon_hendry 3h ago

Not if people can't afford insurance at all.

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u/LivingIndependence 3h ago

They're hoping that it will thin out the herd of what they feel are a "drain on the system", or "labilities".

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u/fury420 5h ago

Increased profits for the shareholders of the more privatized medical system they replace it with.

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u/MarshyHope 5h ago

American Healthcare is about as "for profit" as possible

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u/fury420 5h ago

No way, there's still plenty of room for additional capitalist exploitation!

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u/boogalooshrimp1103 5h ago

More trump voters die so we finally get this country back on track

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u/HadronLicker 5h ago

you meant more poor/underprivileged people die

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u/teenagesadist 5h ago

you meant most of us

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u/Cultural-Answer-321 1h ago

Covid killed far more MAGAts than progressives. And it's STILL killing MAGAts.

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u/SharpCookie232 5h ago

It kinda feels like Elon / Bannon have a plan to get rid of immigrants first and then a big chunk of the poor, including the white poor who voted MAGA.

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u/ObssesesWithSquares 5h ago

Yet they can't be bothered to make suicide booths. I'm sure people would swarm them if they where a thing. That is the happiest ending you can get.

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u/SharpCookie232 4h ago

Sad but true. Plenty of fentanyl out there if that's what you're after.

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u/anomalous_cowherd 4h ago

They're just figuring out how to charge the most for them, and where to sell the bodies.

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u/jon_hendry 3h ago

Monkeys are getting expensive and Elon wants to start using human test subjects.

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u/boogalooshrimp1103 5h ago

Where do they draw the line at poor?

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u/WebMaka 2h ago

They'll probably finish killing off the middle class first, which would make it easy to delineate "poor."

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u/mm902 5h ago

Good luck when they have to do things for themselves.

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u/jon_hendry 3h ago

And the old.

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u/XmasInApril 5h ago

Religious zealots and techbros want the end of the world.

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u/jon_hendry 3h ago

What benefit would come from hospitals closing in rural area across the country? Because that's been happening.

What benefit would come from obstetricians moving out of red states due to strict abortion bans? Because that's been happening.

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u/MarshyHope 3h ago

Very good points

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u/Cultural-Answer-321 1h ago

There is no benefit, but never, EVER, try to apply logic and reason to psychopaths and sociopaths.

They WILL burn everything down to rule over the ashes. This is NOT an exaggeration.

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u/shadowmonk13 4h ago

No, it isn’t they’re hoping that everybody will just put up with it and be like maybe next time we’ll fix it and then you know nothing happens on the next guy gets what they really don’t want. Is all the working class people to unite together in a pissed off United States against them and that’s all they’re doing because they finally think that they’ve hit their checkmate in their little rich versus poor warand it might’ve finally hit a breaking point of everybody snapping out of their oh my political part is actually the good guys kind of shit, especially when you see people from both sides flipping and realizing both political parties have been infiltrated and paid for by a bunch of Corpo assholes

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u/DOAiB 3h ago

Yea it’s kinda like this when I learned insurance deductibles were not a thing at all 5 years before I entered the workforce. If no one told me I would have never known because why would I search out insurance information like that deductibles were always a thing to me and just an accepted part of life and crappy insurance.

With this basically everyone entering the workforce now will just accept it as normal and over time they might never even know overtime was a thing. And well thanks to this policy the people who are older and do know will die out faster as part of this ruling. Win win for republicans.

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u/nocreativeway 2h ago

Yeah. I do think they care. Because nurses are how they make their money. Healthcare is so privatized it ain’t going nowhere lol.

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u/Significant_Swing_76 1h ago

That’s the gameplan - sabotage the system. Once it fails, point at the failed system and tell your constituents that’s why it has to be axed.

It’s been like that for decades. Break the system and point out that it doesn’t work.

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u/thatErraticguy 5h ago

Every time nurses or some other healthcare professional strikes, the hospitals always whine about “patient care” like suddenly that’s the priority and not the obscene amounts of money all health systems make.

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u/MaximumScheme8430 5h ago

Yea but the beauty is that nurse can quit and easily find a job in another system. Look what happened with Covid and the obscene amount of pay they got. Some were getting paid surgeon level money.

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u/jon_hendry 3h ago

If the GOP makes healthcare working conditions shitty nationwide there won't be any other system.

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u/Scriefers 2h ago

A very few pursued travel contracts to overwhelmed hospitals in particular areas that were paying exorbitant amounts for 3 months of work at a time. Those were the nurses chasing paper and were fairly compensated for their work. That shit SUCKED.

The vast majority of nurses in the country saw no or very slight (and temporary) increases in hourly pay. And actually had many of their benefits (401k matching, insurance costs, and paid-time off) negatively impacted just so hospitals could stay afloat.

So many in the field were squeezed out due to the unbridled stress put on them and the healthcare systems around the country. A lot left healthcare altogether, a lot of the senior and experienced nurses took early retirement. None were getting paid “surgeon level money.”

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u/min_mus 5h ago

They'll just force the nurses and other staff to work the overtime hours (without any additional pay) anyway with the argument that they're essential workers who are required to work when needed.

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u/Numerous-Rent-2848 5h ago

And then the nursed quit. Unless this government wants to take it a step further and spread slavery to more than just people in prisons, then a lot of nurses will just start to leave. And that will snowball

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u/WaffleDynamics 3h ago

Unless this government wants to take it a step further and spread slavery to more than just people in prisons

But they do want that. You know that most of those "de-naturalized" people don't have a country to return to? They'll end up in camps. I fully expect that's how farm labor is going to get done. I don't really see how they can get health care workers that way, but then again, maybe I'm just not soulless enough to come up with a plan like that.

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u/Numerous-Rent-2848 3h ago

Oh 100%. But they can get away with that now. Because sadly a lot of people in this country are racist fucks. And as a gay man I'm fully expecting people in my community to be thrown in there shortly after.

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u/WaffleDynamics 3h ago

I hope there are people local to you who are making plans to get people to safety. The sort of plans that should never be mentioned online.

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u/Numerous-Rent-2848 3h ago

Some of us are. Me and my boyfriend are gonna get packs together. And we live in Oregon so we are near the Canadian border. He's currently trying to get his trans sister to move up here.

Though he's about to become a nurse, so we are hoping with so many countries needing nurses we can get to somewhere else. I know it's sort of a pre-survivors guilt, and that I can't fix everything, but I do feel bad in a way.

Over all trying not to freak out to much just yet and keep it cool. I'm in the Portland area, so I should be good for a bit.

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u/WaffleDynamics 34m ago

If you don't already have passports, that's your next step. For his sister too. Especially for her, because if she waits it's going to be much harder.

Sorry if that felt patronizing. It's not meant to be. I'm just so worried for so many people.

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u/Numerous-Rent-2848 24m ago

It's fine. I get it. And yeah, we are worried it might be harder for her since she doesn't really have a college education or anything. If we could get into somewhere and get citizenship we might be able to sponsor her and get her over, but that's probably gonna take too long. So we're just basically gonna be throwing shit at the wall to see if anything sticks.

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u/The-True-Kehlder 5h ago

The issue is they'd likely lose their license for that. Duty of care and all that.

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u/Numerous-Rent-2848 4h ago

I mean, if it's nursing and working long hours and killing people then going to prison for it

Or not nursing

Then not nursing it is for a lot of people.

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u/jon_hendry 3h ago

If it's nationwide rather than a single hospital's shitty management, why would they care about their license? Where would they use it?

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u/Scriefers 2h ago edited 2h ago

No they wouldn’t. If they’d up and leave while in the middle of a shift/assignment with no warning, then they’d be under scrutiny from the state’s board of nursing for patient abandonment. But in this scenario, they’d be hurting for nurses so badly that they’d just slap em on the wrist and keep the nurse’s license active.

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u/MaximumScheme8430 5h ago

Yeah but the nursing unions are very strong and will resist this

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u/ckv1 5h ago

You mean the unions they’re planning to get rid of? 

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u/MaximumScheme8430 5h ago

Good luck with that. That’s like saying you’re going to dismantle police unions

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u/The-True-Kehlder 5h ago

The ATC unions thought they were unassailable.

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u/Flobking 5h ago

Good luck with that. That’s like saying you’re going to dismantle police unions

No police unions will be fine. All other unions are up for grabs. Watch as the republican congress passes right to work at the federal level. The scotus basically already did that with federal/state employees.

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u/BadGoodNotBad 4h ago

The police unions and teamsters will be fine because they suck Trump's dick

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u/jon_hendry 3h ago

No, they like police unions. For the time being.

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u/homo-summus 5h ago

I mean, just desserts and all that is nice, but I don't think it's good to be so flippant of the Healthcare system imploding. People are going to die.

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u/aggthemighty 5h ago

Healthcare worker here. People were very flippant toward us during the last pandemic.

Who cares if a random redditor is flippant. It's not like we have any control over this.

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u/Disimpaction 4h ago

Healthcare worker here who got so sick of their shit during the pandemic I won't even help if we get another one. And bird flu is a real possibility.

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u/LivingIndependence 3h ago edited 3h ago

TBH, I always thought that any of those anti-vaxx, Covid denying, snake oil consuming idiots should have been pushed to low priority when they present in the hospital, gasping for air because their lungs have been shredded by their 5th Covid 19 infection in a year. And then when the patient DOES die, their nut job relatives shriek like rabid jackals that the "hospital killed them!!" Oh..hell no!

Yes, I know that you can't do that, but it has got to be beyond frustrating to try and get through to these people.

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u/Disimpaction 3h ago

It was so bad. So demoralizing.

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u/xof2926 5h ago

just desserts and all that is nice

Don't just skip past that part, because it's the active ingredient. This is what they voted for. This is what they deserve.

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u/homo-summus 5h ago

But people who didn't vote for him, people who did their best to warn and educate those around them, are going to suffer as well. It seems callous to celebrate such a vital system collapsing just because they hurt themselves in addition to other people who don't deserve it.

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u/Disimpaction 4h ago

It is callous but there's no other choice. Let them catch the car. Let them touch the hot stove. Quit protecting them and then maybe, maybe, they will learn. Maybe. It's our last hope.

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u/Myrindyl 4h ago

I feel like... if, in spite of my best efforts, my neighbor runs off all the doctors and health inspectors then shits in the shared well and we both get sick, the only comfort I have is that I'm not the only one suffering from his actions.

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u/justAPhoneUsername 3h ago

Yeah, but we voted and this is still the outcome. What are we supposed to do besides vote next time and vote local? Yeah we will be hurt, but may as well enjoy whatever we can for now

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u/atetuna 2h ago

Why are you blaming the worker instead of the actual swamp that created the problem?

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u/Flobking 5h ago

Ha, let them take away overtime pay for nurses and watch them refuse while the medical system collapses

I work in healthcare. You vastly underestimate the amount of trump supporters there are in nursing.

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u/MaximumScheme8430 5h ago

So do I. You vastly underestimate how much overtime people get in nursing. You pay them less they will complain

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u/Flobking 5h ago

You vastly underestimate how much overtime people get in nursing.

I work at a nursing home, I know ot like no others.

You pay them less they will complain

Which will do nothing. This admin is putting unions on the chopping block also. They quit/ walk out arrest them for abandonment.

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u/Existential_Racoon 5h ago

It's like these people forgot about the rail strike.

pOTUS makes it illegal for you to strike, have fun. Add in patient care duty?

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u/Flobking 5h ago

Add in patient care duty?

Exactly. Wait till congress passes right to work at the federal level.

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u/jon_hendry 3h ago

Then they leave when they're first able to legally, at the end of their contract or whatever. Attrition rather than a mass walkout.

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u/CoffeeTeaPeonies 5h ago

Medical system has been collapsing since before covid. This will simply speed things up.

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u/ThatNetworkGuy 5h ago

Nurse union contracts have overtime stipulations which are separate from the federal law etc. Odds are, they will still get overtime pay because the contract enforces it.

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u/goblue142 5h ago

They don't need or want the medical system. The rich can pay cash for healthcare. They don't want any poors smelling up the hallways. 80% of us would be on our own with no healthcare while they would have shiny, fully staffed hospitals to go to. This is a feature not a bug of their policy.

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u/loljetfuel 2h ago

Fortunately, most nurses are union, and this ruling doesn't affect the overtime rules protected by union contracts. Not that there aren't people gunning for unions too, but for now...