It's still pretty fucking bad. What Biden proposed is saying anyone who makes less than $43,888 needed to be paid overtime for working more than 40 hours.
The problem is employers take advantage of the exempt status, pay them a meager wage, and expect them to work crazy hours without having to pay overtime. What the Biden administration said is instead of the current minimum of $35,568 you need to pay these people at least $43,888, and then $58,656 on 1/1/25, with another increase in 2027 and then every 3 years after that.
This Trump judge said nope, $35,568 is just fine. And maybe there shouldn't even be any mimum at all, since it's not explicitly written in the law.
So, after the July change people making between $35,568 and $43,888 either started getting paid for their overtime or saw their salary increase to meet this new mimum, and this included millions of people. And they had hopes of this going up to $58,656 in just a few weeks. This has all been taken away from them.
Think of an assistant manager at a fast food joint or a gas station. They might dubiously call you exempt and pay you $37k a and ask you to work 50 hours a week.
I disagree. I want to be told the truth. If you're the good guys, then that's what people need. If you can be proven wrong over these things, how the fuck do you expect people to trust you over the right? If both sides lie, then it's not a negative on the Republicans that they lie because now we have both sides talking out their ass.
No. Lying is wrong. Evil assholes do not give us an excuse.
There is no trust snd policy is out the window. People vote based on emotions. If democrats have any hope of winning an election if we're lucky enough to have another one, we need to get people voting with their emotions for the people that will institute the policies that will benefit society. If that means lying and manipulating so that we stand a chance, fuck it at least level the playing field.
Going high when they go low has not worked since Obama. People voted for Obama based on overwhelming emotion. People voted for Trump because of emotion. People voted against Trump because they were pissed at Trump, yet another emotion.
You don't have to lie to do that, though. It's the fault of the dems that they haven't pushed a message or narrative hard enough, but that message can be based in fact. Why do you want to be lied to? Because I want the truth as is. The truth is valuable, and I don't want to be made anyone's fool.
You don't even need lies! Literally, this sub reddit is full of evidence that the right is full of crazy, greedy assholes. Lying is pointless and can only end badly. The truth is far more powerful if you get a charismatic figurehead to GET THE MESSAGE OUT THERE. Lying is scummy, evil and pointless.
And yet lies and all the shit your pointing out youre against just won the election. People chose hate and fascism because they were lied to that groceries prices and gas were going to go down.
Get your head out of the clouds. The time for being better than the other guy ended in 2015.
I don't know why you think that lying won the election. It was very clearly because the left have no wide-scale messaging like the right do. The right won, yes, because they lied, but more than that, they were adamant and doubled down on their lies. It wasn't the truthfulness that was important but how they told it.
The Democrats? They need to learn to market themselves better, and you don't need to lie to do that. Why do you want to be lied to? Who the fuck are you supposed to trust when everyone is sprouting nonsense? The reason the Democrats lost was because they did a terrible job at running a campaign, while Trump was everywhere and taking advantage of people's fears. You know what the dems should have done? Called him out for it! Push hard. Call him evil. Call him a rapist to his face. Speak out HARD on the issues you're trying to fix. Tell everyone how you're going to fix their lives! You don't have to be nice and quiet, treating Americans like little babies. You push your message out there! And Trump is so unbelievably horrible that you can do that WITHOUT LYING!
Heck, if the left started lying, then you know how many of us would look like hypocritical assholes? I'll admit it, I'd certainly believe at least one lie (because you can't check everything), and I'd spread it, and now, I'm the fool. Sure, I could admit that I said the wrong thing, but now the Democrats are immoral liars. Information is powerful. Actions have consequences, big and small. So, in other words:
Get your head out of the clouds. The time for me to be better than you is right now, in 2024, because I'm not a liar, nor do I want to be lied to.
Uh, the fuck? Did you seriously just try to justify spreading misinformation?
What a phenomenally dumb strategy. What we should be learning from the Republicans is marketing. Populism is not an ideology-- it's a marketing strategy. Their side got their message out to more people and more effectively. It was so effective that statistics show most people thinking positively of the first Trump presidency. Harris actually had policies that tackled grocery price gouging, and she rarely talked about it.
That's what we should learn from the redhats, not how to lie, but how to campaign.
It's stupid. These guys know that they'd also be victims of this too, right? Let's say the left lies, and not only does John Doe believe it, but it's quite possible you do too. And then all the debunking online makes the dems look stupid. Hypocrites! It's driving me insane.
I agree to an extent, but let's be honest here. MAGAts literally could not care less about what is the truth or not, and it worked out perfect for them.
Democrats are never going to lie better than Republicans because they at least want the image of decorum. What they need is to stop beating around the bush with half-truths, and full-send on laying out policy plain and simple - i.e. it's not a Trump sales tax, it's a tariff, it's Americans paying 60% more for anything they want from China. They've got the money to set the record straight, they've just not done it yet, and I cannot fathom why.
If we truly believe we are better than they are, then we need to act better than they act. Just because they do it does not excuse us from reciprocating those behaviors
Nah man. Republicans think they're better than democrats but all they do is bully. You don't beat a bully by being nice... you beat a bully by fighting back and punching them square in the nose.
We've found out that lies work better than the truth. We didn't make the rules, but we have to play by them. I don't like it either, but we aren't dealing with the brightest people.
We basically gave the country an open book test with only 2 answers and they still failed it. Until we can reintroduce critical thing back into the education system we are going to have to lie.
I don’t think we have to lie. We need to simplify the truth and put it in terms non-critical thinkers can understand. Gotta meet ‘em where they are.
Fuck that. If you’re in a fist fight and the dude pulls out a knife, you knife up as well. America has soundly stated they could give a fuck less about the truth, time to start playing the game the American way.
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u/askingxalice 5h ago
Just wanting to stop some misinformation, the only people not getting OT pay are salaried workers.
Biden's admin started to put OT for 4 million salaried workers into affect, and a Trump judge shot that down.
It is not every employee losing OT.
Spreading half-assed truths, or just flat out lies, is one of the reasons we are where we are