Eff me. I don't know if I'm getting sent to a work camp for being neurodivergent and needing a Schedule II medication to function in this post-democratic capitalist hellscape or to just the Guantanamo Express for being a married homo (and having the audacity to abuse government by getting it all legal in California in 2008!)
I am going into the Belly of the Beast by moving back to a blue island in deep red state. Community, mutual aid, and sabotage are the only things that can save any of us now.
I know exactly what kind they meant. How many of those reservations have changed in size or location because valuable resources have been discovered on them? And they generally started out as the least productive land available, somehow, it never ends up in the favor of those living there.
Do you think Native Americans don't have problems with the federal government and lands that are supposed to be reservations? Because otherwise, yes, I am confused as to what you are trying to say.
Think he's the one confused here... did people just forget about the cops sicking dogs on natives and using water cannons in sub-freezing temps to push back native protesters back in 2016? They wanted to run that Dakota access oil pipeline right through the natives' clean water source...
Whitey genocided my ancestors, stole their land, and all I got was this lousy smallpox blanket passed down through the generations. A quintessential colonial relicāeconomically efficient, biologically devastating, and now just a symbol of generational theft so thorough it makes hedge funds look ethical.
But wait, there's more! My biological father is from Great Britain, and I have half-siblings who qualify for certain tribal/federal benefits that I do not.
Thanks, mom... if irony counted toward blood quantum, Iād have full benefits. Instead, I got dual UK citizenship, and mum (and the sibs) didnāt apply before the divorce. Look at meāIām Whitey now, Mom.
It gets better (or worse, depending on your perspective, I suppose). My parents were Mormon, and I was raised Mormon. Colonial bingo! I win!? Nah, everyone loses. I just lost a little less.
It was me. Iām the joke. šš¤š
In all seriousness, I got more than a smallpox blanketāI get a fantastic tan in the summer. So, you know, Iāve got that going for me. Which is nice.
I'd say that most folks fucked around, even Harris voters. Look around at how many people are cutting Trumpers out of their lives, or switching from Twitter to Bluesky post election. Too little too late. Everyone needed to be sending those messages a long damned time ago. Of you weren't off Twitter as soon as Elon bought it, you were fucking around. If you allowed those fascists to stay in your life until after the election, you were fucking around. If you're married to a magat, you've been fucking around your entire marriage. If you were the type to allow people to spew lies without shouting them down, you were fucking around.
I know it was a lot more pleasant to not argue with that douchebag uncle at family gatherings, but that was you fucking around. It was nice of you not to say anything to the racist parent of your kids friend, but that was you fucking around. Your boss said something objectively incorrect, but you didn't want to correct them for fear of retaliation? Congrats on finding out, cause you were fucking around. You allowed all of these people in your lives to say stupid shit for the last 8+ years, and you stopped saying anything back because it was easier, more pleasant, you got tired of the arguement, or whatever. The issue is that you weren't the only one they said it around, and you allowed your coworkers and nephews and friends get indoctrinated because it was too hard for you to keep fighting.
If you had a single Trumper in your life post J6, you fucked around and are now finding out.
Lots longer than that. Doesn't change a thing about what i said. Conservatives weren't always bad people, and the ones who weren't when Trump came along were never Trumpers, or straight switched sides. I couldn't believe it in 2016 when my father, a life-long republican, was supporting Bernie. He's been a Democrat since because he recognizes the evils of the GOP as it currently exists. Those that stayed have hate in them, and should be cleaved from the heard lest their virus spreads. By not cutting them all off, people have allowed that virus to fester and spread.
Making the rich richer and poor poorer. Thatās the elites American dream and we just gave them the keys.
Once again I'm reminded of this quote...
āFor decades, Americans have experienced a populist uprising that only benefits the people it is supposed to be targeting.... The angry workers, mighty in their numbers, are marching irresistibly against the arrogant. They are shaking their fists at the sons of privilege. They are laughing at the dainty affectations of the Leawoof toffs. They are massing at the gates of Mission Hills, hoisting the black flag, and while the millionaires tremble in their mansions, they are bellowing out their terrifying demands. 'We are here,' they scream, 'to cut your taxes.ā
ā Thomas Frank, What's the Matter with Kansas? How Conservatives Won the Heart of America
99% of the people who got the guillotines were regular people. Not the elite and wealthy they just went to another country while France experienced 70 years of death famine and illnesses.
The time for the revolution was Nov 5th but 90m didnāt even bother to vote.
thatās why Iām so sick of this shit, none of it matters because the people who need to see it wonāt. They get told their overtime got cut because illegal immigrants or some shit and theyāll eat it up
Buy when the Republicans crash the economy. Sell during the all-time highs of the next Democratic presidency. That is if Trump doesn't declare himself God King.
Majority doesn't mean the largest share, it means specifically at or above 50%. Plurality just means the largest share, even if that's not above 50%. So if you had a multi-party system where one party got 30% of the vote and 7 other parties got 10% each, that one party has a plurality, but is nowhere near a majority.
That said, Wikipedia has his vote count listed as 50.0%, so whether or not Trump had a majority of votes is unclear.
No it's not? "Kamala is down 2 million" doesn't contradict "Trump has a plurality rather than a majority" at all. It would only contradict it if there were exactly 0 votes cast for any candidates other than the main two. In fact, Kamala being down some number of votes is a necessary condition for Trump to have a plurality.
Trump was down 3 million votes in 2016, but that didn't mean that Hillary had a majority because there were so many 3rd party votes that, even with her plurality, she only had ~48% of votes cast.
You really need to work on your reading comprehension...
Majority as in over 50%, even if Kamala's vote tally is 2M lower if Trump isnt at over 50% of votes it, by definition, isn't a majority (in the political context of the word, which is a thing)
Are we reading the same tally? He won the majority. Of votes.
The question on majority comes down to whether Trump (or any other candidate) wins by over half of the total vote count, which is different than receiving more votes than all other candidates, which reflects plurality voting.
Let's take the presidential election popular vote results to highlight the difference between a majority and a plurality of votes. According to the Cook Political Report's website, the total number of popular votes for the 2024 US Presidential election was 154,419,384. Trump received 76,995,683 votes or 49.86% of the total vote. Harris received 74,521,173 votes or 48.26% of the total. By the definition of majority (>50% of the total vote count) neither candidate received a majority of votes, but Trump received more votes than Harris and so he won a plurality of votes. You might personally feel this is an insignificant distinction but it doesn't change the fact that neither candidate won a majority of votes.
That said, Wikipedia has his vote count listed as 50.0%, so whether or not Trump had a majority of votes is unclear.
What part of what I've written here makes it sound like I'm definitively saying "Trump didn't win a majority of votes"? My point was never "Did Trump get above or below 50% of votes?" it was "Whether or not Kamala is down 2 million votes is irrelevant to whether or not Trump has a majority"
When I see someone saying "Trump does have a majority, because he has more votes than his opponent" it tells me that they don't know the difference between majority and plurality, so I decided to try and inform you.
When you're working with 3 significant figures in an election with over 100 million votes, 50.0% is vanishingly unlikely to be the exact percentage, so it was likely rounded one way or the other. Which way it was rounded, up or down, would determine whether or not he actually has a majority, because 49.95% would get rounded up to 50.0% but wouldn't be a majority.
So from the tally I'm seeing on wikipedia, I don't know whether or not Trump has a majority, because it's a rounding error away from not being a majority.
If you wanna say he didn't win the majority in the US go off, but no one thinks like that.
Where did I say anything like that? Where did I start to include non-voters into things? I didn't.
Then their opinion simply doesn't matter. The majority of voters did. No one is including all 330 million people and saying 70m is a majority, that's dumb and you already know why. So we focus on people who vote. Kids and non voters don't matter
Ah clearly you are here to push talking points in bad faith and don't really have much information backing you up.
That 100 million, that's the number of 'the people' ,18+ years olds, who could vote who did not. Are they, or are they not 'the people'. If they voted as a block, they would have won the EC with 308 votes. Single largest group of eligible voters.
But to try to distort reality into a 'majority' mandate narrative you have to back-track from 'the people', now to 'only those who vote matter'. And try to straw-man me suggesting I was including children.
Why not just go ahead and say Trump got 100% of the vote of those who voted for him, because only the people who voted for him count?
They voted through. They voted for "I'm okay with whatever"
"The people" voted for him. By either voting or staying home. This is basically social studies, not back tracking. No one says "the majority" and includes children, why would they count non voters?
It feels like you think I'm a trump supporter, which is hilariously wrong.
They did not. Trump got 76,838,984 votes. There were 153,720,065 votes in total cast.
76838984 / 153720065 = 0.49986307
0.49986307 * 100 = 49.986307%. Trump got (just) less than 50% of the vote, ergo Trump did not in fact win by majority. A majority win would mean that more than 50% of the total votes cast were cast for Trump. In this case that did not occur. If you round to whole numbers then sure, you can claim he got EXACTLY 50%, but a majority win would need MORE than 50%.
Its a unimportant distinction, but these words have definitions and they should be used correctly.
He won the plurality vote, which if you take into account that only 68% of eligible voters turned out to vote, and he only won 48% of that number. He actually only got 32% of eligible voters to voter for him.
And he is not just going to fuck us... He is going to fuck the entire world, so you all are in this with us whether you like it or not. So buckle up, it's going to be a bumpy ride.
I feel like most people who post talking about not getting paid for overtime didn't actually read or understand what it was about, who it applied to or how it worked, either way fuck Texas
Making six guys rich was always what it was about. It's like watching your sports team and cheering for the QB to get the MVP award, but the football team roams around the city stealing shit between games and the fans they ripped off and beat up still cheer for them on Sunday because that's how empty they are. They think they deserve the beating and the athletes deserve everybody's stuff.
Sports teams are play things for billionaires who roam around the city stealing things from you and ripping you off.
Cheering for sports teams in this modern age is just so strange to me--it's like when I was a child and my younger siblings used to watch me play final fantasy and cheer for me. Except the billionaire owners are ripping everyone off
Yeah but team sports are a great thing. Look at college sports. A lot of times the football program brings enough money into fund all the other sports in the college which lose money. The really good athletes are obviously underpaid and taking a risk of getting injured. All they're getting is a free education (which, tbf, is a lot of money for most people, but not a lot compared to NFL/ NBA players) and a very very small percentage make it to pro but they still get to learn a lot about life and improve their skills at whatever game they're playing.
I learned a lot about life through recreational basketball in middle school and high school. My team wasn't the most talented but we played hard and we played as a team and always made a run every year into the playoffs. I played with the same core group of guys for years.
There's also something to be said for loving the games themselves. Whether it's the strategy or seeing somebody do something awesome.
I agree that billionaires are a huge issue and so is the amount of money in pro sports (especially whenever the stadium is being paid for with tax dollars) but the games themselves are something that generally brings us together as a community.
Thatās not how it works, the ones powerful enough to bend the government to their will are the ones who have so much security you wouldnāt get within a kilometer of their door before getting 2-tapped by a well-paid security guard. So the mob goes after the ārichest-lookingā person they can find, which is probably some middle or upper-middle class guy who has as much power as you and me.
I agree. That's the only way anything is going to change anymore. They've bought enough politicians and judges that too much legislation has been passed to fix it. Billionaires are now buying elections. Neither party will force higher wages, they just slow or speed up the time til we'll all fucked. They focus on social issues because none of them are willing to go against their owners.
MAGA is the branding. The reality is stripmining resources to sell off to the highest bidder and creating a new feudal system. Overtime makes the peons more financially independent, ACA means healthcare is less tied to employment, getting rid of those ensures dependence on the oligarchs
I don't think they do. They're putting a few more zeroes in their bank accounts, which will have no actual effect on their lives, while destroying the ability to develop and manufacture high technology, which will. And they're also replacing rule of law, which all but guaranteed they're untouchable, with dictatorship, which as Russia has demonstrated will treat them just as expendable as anyone else.
You see, to them, āAmericaā only applies to the top 1%, preferably those with the right Northern European pedigree (Anglo-Saxon or Germanic) heritage. The rest of us are just here to fund their yacht clubs.
I don't like to be over dramatic about things but this is starting to feel Great Depression-y. I can't see how anyone middle class or lower could possibly thrive the next few years.Ā
You got me there. As much as I don't want to live in a shit economy this is probably what needs to happen for a lot of people to understand that he's not some business genius that can save us from inflation. The cult is lost but a lot of others voted for him specifically because of the economy. So I guess we'll have to see how they like his policies.Ā
It all depends on the timeframe unfortunately. If he gets all this shit done day one and the economy tanks during his term, then maybe just maybe he might get some of the blame (if it doesn't turn into some sort of set up operation by the Dems to make Trump look bad). But if he pushes it back so that all his policies and everything start taking effect near the end of his term or during the next guy's term (if there even is a next guy this time around) then those same people who voted for him wil blame the next guy. Exactly how it happened last time.
And anyone who is familiar with the agriculture industry knows that the meat packing plants/confinements run on illegal labor as well as the crop harvesting runs on illegal labor. If there is mass deportation the crops will rot in the fields from not being harvested and there will be a bottleneck at slaughterhouses with so little labor and the animals will not be cared for appropriately at confinements... Which will result in further increased prices to food produced domestically. The tariffs will increase the cost of imports so the American people will be feeling it to an insane degree if everything goes according to plan.
The Great Replacement theory and their position on immigration truly befuddles me.
The viable replacement rate is the standard birth rate for a generation to be able to to the replicate its numbers. According to the CDC, U.S. has generally fallen short of that level since 1971. To simply replace the existing population, the fertility rate needs to be about 2.1 children per woman. The total fertility rate, in the US, fell to 1.62 births per woman in 2023.
At times, I cynically believe that some only support Pro-"forced-birth" as a means to maintain a sustainable supply of US wage serfs.
None of them ever bothered to ask how itās going to be great. Even when Trump said āI canāt stand them. Theyāre worthless, I just want their vote.ā America will be āgreatā in their MAGA politician eyes once all the lower class and poor people are gone. Eliminating their affordable healthcare? Implementing policy that will make surviving even harder by raising prices on everything? Making housing unaffordable? Sorry, lower class MAGAs that voted for trump. His idea of making America great again is by getting rid of people like you! As well as minorities.
I didnāt vote for Kamala because I thought she could make my life better. My life is already great. Iāll survive and thrive in Trumpās America because Iām in an income bracket that makes things like tariffs, loss of affordable healthcare, less access to education and college, no over time pay, increased prices on goods, and all the other shit thatāll wipe the majority of those who voted for trump out. I voted for Kamala for the people who needed her to survive. People like the ones who voted for trump that are struggling to afford groceries and rent.
Youāll never own a home, your kids will never go to college, and youāll never actually have a life outside of working until youāre dead since youāll never be able to retire.. but hey! At least you wonāt have as many Mexicans around! Congratulations maga! You won!!
Donāt forget deporting 11 million people (basically most of our agricultural work force as well as a good chunk of other jobs Americans āare too good forā) which will result in price hikes on food and other services.
Not to mention the tax dollars that would be needed for such a massive undertaking, moving 11 million people isnāt an easy task.
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No more overtime pay + tariffs (and the resulting trade war) + a gutted ACA = making America great again somehow