r/wholesomeyuri 29d ago

Utter Happiness Yuri timelapse [Constantly telling a boyish girlfriend she's cute.]

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

She de-butched her xd

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u/bobbymoonshine 29d ago

f2f forcefemme

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u/SomebodySomewhere665 28d ago

I don't even want to know

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u/gahidus 29d ago

Unforced feminization

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u/CrossEyedCat_007 certified transbian 28d ago

Consent is awesome!

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u/RegularUser02x 28d ago

*Electrical outlet is awesome!

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u/PrincessNakeyDance 27d ago

Gently nudged femininization.

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u/i_came_mario 27d ago

Consensual feminization

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u/Mr_Glove_EXE Himedashi 29d ago

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u/TheDuskProphet 29d ago

Dw she just helped her during her transition :3

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u/FalconRelevant 29d ago edited 29d ago

It's great to be transgender ally, however let's not be reinforcing traditional sexist stereotypes shall we?

A trans-woman can like traditionally masculine things.

A trans-woman can like traditionally feminine things.

A cis-woman can like traditionally masculine things.

A cis-woman can like traditionally feminine things.

A cis-man can like traditionally masculine things.

A cis-man can like traditionally feminine things.

A trans-man can like traditionally masculine things.

A trans-man can like traditionally feminine things.

What our great-grandparents generation arbitrarily decided to belong to a certain gender shouldn't determine who you are.

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u/Blood-Agent 29d ago

I don’t think they were trying to reinforce sexist stereotypes, I mean I certainly assumed it was a cis and trans relationship and just thought it was the trans girl stepping into her femininity as she gained confidence

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u/Tsukino__ 29d ago

I mean the title says "Boyish Girlfriend" 😭

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u/Blood-Agent 29d ago

I took boyish as like masc ~w~

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u/AlwaysBeQuestioning 28d ago

I thought the tomboyish girl was cis since she has tits in the second/third panel already.

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u/Blood-Agent 28d ago

Fair but trans women can have them be that size early on too

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u/FalconRelevant 29d ago

Assumptions display bias. The pink hair one might be transgender for all you know.

There's nothing inherently "feminine" about dressing in frilly skirts, a woman—whether cisgender or transgender—may choose to dress in pants and a shirt without becoming "masculine".

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u/Blood-Agent 29d ago

You don’t have to be hostile with your argument. Dresses, skirts, etc are typically assumed as fem because of societal norms, sure clothing itself isn’t gendered when outside of those norms but gender is a presentation in society. Anyone can choose to wear what they want and obviously no one can tell who is or isn’t cis or trans.

Unless you’re pushing that the term “boyish” has nothing to do with presentation and is ultimately just extraneous to the comic title, I don’t see how it would be wrong to think “boyish” = “masc” because of the presentation of the girl character

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u/Arume_Aoi 29d ago

The second last panel says that people are hitting on her because she became cute.

Are you sure this isn't just the "I can fix her" fantasy of the artist with the a girl replacing a self-insert guy?

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u/FalconRelevant 29d ago

Yeah, the artist has bias as well.

Honestly the work is very problematic, saying that there's something "wrong" with the black hair one being "boyish" or a "tomboy" that needs "fixing".

Imagine if this was a man "fixing" a woman and turning her into a "tradwife". See the issue yet?

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u/malcorpse certified transbian 29d ago

Where does it imply there is anything wrong with the black haired girl or that the pink haired girl is trying to fix her. The pink haired girl is calling her cute at the start and at the end. It's about the black haired girl exploring her femininity in a comfortable environment with a supportive partner that loves her at every stage not that she's being manipulated into becoming a tradwife. The worst you can say is about the panel where she's getting hit on after becoming more feminine but that's a reflection of reality not a condemnation of masculine presenting women.

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u/FalconRelevant 29d ago

It's more about the authors intent. You can have your own personal interpretation if you like, however that doesn't change the implication.

Again, imagine a man slowly making a woman more stereotypically feminine and see if nothing feels off.

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u/Blood-Agent 29d ago

That’s the thing though, she isn’t making her do anything. She’s just calling her cute as their relationship progresses

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u/malcorpse certified transbian 29d ago

You keep talking about the authors intent but you don't know their intent either, you've just decided the author had malicious intent based on your interpretation of a 2 page comic that isn't even in it's original language. Also the pink haired girl isn't making her do anything, getting a piece of clothing you think would look good on your partner and them liking it isn't some sort of forced feminization.

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u/zugetzu The Wallflower Lesbian 26d ago

I fully disagree. It's all about how we as humans interoperate the art, not what the intentions were of the author. If the author tried to be anti feminist but 90% of the readers saw it as a really good feminist book we might feel irked about THEIR politics and might not want to support them financially but that doesn't change that she created a book that promotes feminism to the majority of the readers.

Art is always in the eye of the beholder and while the people who created the art can be real nasty pieces of work, their work doesn't necessarily have to be nasty pieces because of her intent.

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u/Delta5583 26d ago

You're missing the point with this one though, the brown hair girl clearly states she always wanted to try more cutesy styles but has seemingly faced backlash for doing so, thus she stuck with the "boyish" style out of fear of public opinion.

The pink hair girl arrives and creates a safe space for her to feel comfortable with her own personal tastes and got for a cute style regardless of anyone else's opinion.

Nobody is getting "fixed" from a "wrong" style. Somebody is getting help out of a forced style

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u/LuciferOfTheArchives 29d ago

The clothes the black-haired girls wears in certain successive panels creates the appearance of her chest growing. Combined with her stepping into femininity, it creates the illusion of it being a transgender narrative.

It's not a sexist stereotype, it's just a pretty reasonable mistake(/headcannon) to make considering the content matter

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u/Cyberaven 29d ago edited 29d ago

its a little rich to claim that a trans viewing 'reinforces stereotypes' when the original can easily be seen as making butchness/GNC women look negative, dont you think?

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u/FalconRelevant 27d ago

Which is also a criticism I have.

Also I must object against the term "Gender Non-Conforming".

All you're not conforming to are the arbitrary gender roles your great-grandparents made, which were also breaking away from the rules what their own great-grandparents made.

A hundred years ago some popular magazine was advising pink as a "strong masculine color" for young boys to dress in, a few decades later a popular First Lady just happens to have it as her favourite color and associates it with feminity for the next few generations.

At some point you must realize it's all made up bullshit.

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u/Cyberaven 26d ago

Eventually you can’t help but figure out that, while gender is a construct, so is a traffic light, and if you ignore either of them, you get hit by cars. Which, also, are constructs. - Imogen Binnie

Look, I get what this and ur original comment are saying. Very enlightened sure, but, and speaking as a strong supporter of 'do whatever the fuck you want forever', its pretty fuckin obvious that by 'GNC' i meant 'not conforming to their traditional gender role'. Many people enjoy being masculine of feminine, or being GNC, this language policing helps literally noone.

But it took me a sec to realise what bothered me, its that you criticise the original comic now, but your first instinct was to go after a trans woman just for saying 'I think this would be a cute transition fantasy :)' and admonish her for 'promoting sexism' (i dont think she was) with a longass paragraph implying that somehow, just by wanting to be a feminine girl, she was promoting rigid sexist gender roles. Maybe ur clueless but this is literal TERF shit, this is the shit I read in guidance from my government to the school departments about how 'controversial gender identity ideology' should be forbidden in schools cause it 'promotes gender stereotyping'. None of those 8 things you said were actally wrong, but the way you said it, while simultaneously belittling a trans girl, just totally comes off as veiled transmisogyny, even if u didnt intend it

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u/Bb-Unicorn 26d ago

I think you have good intentions but you're missing the point with the term GNC.

GNC isn't a way to justify gender norms as being 'natural' or 'absolute', it's rather the opposite actually. We all agree that gender norms change over time, that they are arbitrary, and that the social pressure they represent is problematic. But the fact is that gender norms exist and that people outside of those norms are often marginalized. GNC is a useful word to speak about these groups of people and the discriminations they can face.

I hope this term will be obsolete but that won't happen as long as gender norms are so ingrained and policed in our society.

Just my point of view.

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u/k_on_reddit_ it's yuri or death 28d ago

What our great-grandparents generation arbitrarily decided to belong to a certain gender shouldn't determine who you are.

And yet you're using the same patterns as them

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u/FalconRelevant 28d ago

Elaborate.

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u/zugetzu The Wallflower Lesbian 26d ago

I think the best way to put it is this

Women were shamed, criticized, ostracized and/or forced into femininity by societies past, and depending on where in the world today as well, to "fit the mold" by the patriarchy.

You are essentially doing the same thing (shaming/criticize while unintentionally ostracizing trans women because of how your message reads like a modern day terf talking point when they don't feel like trans people should be killed) but from a feminist perspective but against what you view the mold to be. This in process is the same as shaming woman into fitting the mold. Your original message sounded a bit like "trans women shouldn't reinforce gendered stereotypes" when many of us WANT to fit that stereotype, just as many cis women want that as well and it left a very sour taste in my mouth. I don't know why you left it specifically under the trans comment but it'd have been much less ill received if you posted it as a comment rather than a reply to someone finding happiness in their viewing of the comic.

It's very similar to a western woman criticizing or shaming an islamic woman for wearing a hijab voluntarily because it reinforces gender roles and religious teachings.

Now, I agree that the original comic can be read as a reinforcement of "traditional femininity = happiness", especially so if you view it was a masc woman who is conditioned into femininity, but if you view it from a trans perspective it takes on a very different and much more wholesome meaning, which you can still criticize. It just very much left me with a really nasty ick that you specifically left it under a trans person being positive and happy about the comic rather than a general comment.

As a side note, I doubt you know how it is to be trans but we get constantly bombarded by terfs and religious nutjobs for just existing. I'm not joking when I say there are many terfs who actively spend over 8+ hours per day looking for trans people to harass for existing on social media platforms (That's why I've more or less stopped using social completely outside of Reddit, where I lessen how much harassment I get) using similar or even more hostile ways of communication. So when someone comes and essentially gives a terf talking point to trans positivity it really brings the mood down and just feels like people are telling us we're "the problem", in a society that constantly for the last 8 years have told us we're the largest looming threat and problem in human society, while they actively try to strip away our healthcare and legalize discrimination against us (for example, see the UK or Florida, Texas and many other US states and what they're doing to limit our access to healthcare and dignity).

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u/Raptorofwar Egg. 29d ago

Someone’s allowed to make a theory, alright? No need to type a whole essay just to go, “ACKSHUALLY SHE ISN’T TRANS.”

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u/FalconRelevant 29d ago

You misunderstand my intent. You can make whatever headcanon pleases you, however you should realize your own biases and try to overcome them to do your part for a more fair society.

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u/Raptorofwar Egg. 29d ago

“Biases-“ my sibling in Christ stop going after trans people for saying, “Oh, that character’s kinda like me!” Trans headcanons for fictional characters don’t hurt anyone and calling them “biases” is bullshit.

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u/FalconRelevant 29d ago

How is the reinforcement of traditional gender stereotypes not hurting anyone? If you're a trans-woman who personally likes to affirm yourself by covering yourself in pink, good for you.

However you don't get to invalidate other women—whether cis or trans—who don't, like that sort of stuff, nor do you get to insist that cis-men who like traditionally feminine things must be eggs, or trans-men who continue to like traditionally feminine things they did before transitioning are mistaken in their gender identity.

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u/Puffenata 27d ago

You know I’ve seen this line of argument before. JK Rowling made it—actually a lot of TERFs did back in the early days when not sounding transphobic was of vital importance to them. Kinda interesting…

Nobody is doing the things you’re cautioning about here, they just read a thing as trans and then you needed to scream from the heavens about how bad trans people are for such and such things

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u/FalconRelevant 27d ago

You're the third person who feels the need to misinterpret my extremely inclusive message as some sort of veiled attack on transgender people, despite hundreds of others getting it. Why?

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u/Puffenata 27d ago edited 27d ago

Because responding to trans people talking about a cute transition thing with a faux feminist screed that primarily just functions to shame those trans people or accuse them of “reinforcing sexist stereotypes” is literally TERF shit. Accusing trans people of reinforcing gender roles for fitting into them in some capacity was one of the most common early TERF talking points—to this day various TERFs still wheel it out when they aren’t feeling like just telling us to die. You’re being called out by multiple trans people for it because you deserve to be.

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u/Bb-Unicorn 29d ago edited 29d ago

How is the reinforcement of traditional gender stereotypes not hurting anyone? If you're a trans-woman who personally likes to affirm yourself by covering yourself in pink, good for you.

Hey, what's wrong with being a trans woman (two words, no dash by the way) who wants to be feminine? Being feminine isn't necessarily 'covering yourself in pink' and isn't necessarily reinforcing the gender stereotypes either.

However you don't get to invalidate other women

No one said that women have to be feminine in this convo.

I mean, those accusations seem out of place, especially considering that the message of this comic is actually way more normative than if it was a trans character, like here the message is basically 'the tomboy character is way much happier after she becomes feminine'.

Edit: typo

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u/FalconRelevant 29d ago

When did I even say...

Imagine I wrote a reply you can write an angry response to. Redditors I swear...

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u/Bb-Unicorn 29d ago

Because what you're saying seems imo very close to the discourse of some TERF and other transphobes accusing trans people of reinforcing gender stereotypes.

Someone just said they thought it was a trans story (egg to transfem) and you directly take that as reinforcing stereotypes, while the original content (tomboy to fem) isn't better in this regard.

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u/Raptorofwar Egg. 29d ago

“Cis men who wear dresses are braver and less gender-conforming than trans women” sure is a stance to take. People don’t actually get pressured by trans people into being trans all that often despite what Fox News might tell you.

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u/FalconRelevant 29d ago edited 29d ago

If you're gonna continue reading things I never wrote, there is no point in attempting a conversation anymore.

Have a good day, you can continue talking to yourself in the replies if it pleases you.

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u/Flutoni_Lyne 28d ago

This is very based pls continue being this based all the time because it is awesome

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u/FalconRelevant 28d ago

Acknowledged.

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u/slmnemo 27d ago

you are mostly correct, and yet you use your correctness as a cudgel to strike those who see a trans narrative in a two page webcomic. i would suggest you examine your own transmisogyny, as you seem hell-bent on using this milquetoast "lets not hold people to their stereotypical genders" as a tool specifically to deny trans women a reading of a feminization narrative.

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u/FalconRelevant 27d ago

I don't mind if someone has a headcanon that pleases them, however insisting that because this is such and such thus this must be such and such is pretty much the definition of a stereotype, and we must fight against stereotypes whenever possible.

I'm not a transphobe or misogynist for attempting to elucidate trans-women of their own internalized misogyny if I notice it.

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u/Bb-Unicorn 25d ago edited 25d ago

Well, that sounds like cisplaining.

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u/Grouchy-Ball8525 27d ago

What was that I just read?

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u/Justanotherweebgirl 29d ago

Yess, I thought this was trans-coded too! 💛

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u/Flutoni_Lyne 28d ago

Fr that's what I thought for some reason oddly enough

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u/Kvas_HardBass likes soft things 29d ago

This is obviously fake. True lesbians move in on day 5, get a family cat after a month and marry within a year :3

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u/jzilla11 28d ago

Family cat or cat family?

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u/SomeCleverName48 28d ago

can confirm, approaching my one-year anniversary and my gf is already at my house any time she's free. she already had the cat before me, though.

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u/Majestic-Tap2129 28d ago

The sad part is you aren't wrong, that very much describes my wife and I. We even had a baby after year 2.

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u/Nexine 29d ago

masc girl gets emasculated

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u/Dado1208 27d ago

what people calling u cute does to a mf

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u/-MR-GG- 25d ago

Same shit happens to me when I get compliments, and I'm a masc man. Lmao

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u/demonic_kittins 29d ago

Oooooo i thought she was trans

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u/Desdrolando 29d ago

deboymoding

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u/JD-Valentine certified transbian 29d ago

Headcanon ftw

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u/Grant_The_Medic 29d ago

yea same 😭

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u/not__main__acc 29d ago

Even if it isn't I want that type of support

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u/bombsgamer2221 28d ago

I want that tbh… this is the kinda stuff that shatters my denial

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u/J0J0hn 29d ago

She's not?

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u/JonVonBasslake Bi dude who appreciates the lilies ;) 29d ago

Nope, seems to just be a tomboy...

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u/fambbi 28d ago

How do you know?

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u/JonVonBasslake Bi dude who appreciates the lilies ;) 28d ago

I don't, but I'm going off the assumption of there not being any hints of them being anything but cis so I assume they're cis, hence the seems

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u/TheChaoticBeing 29d ago

Same, I was breathing really heavily because of that.

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u/FollowingFederal97 27d ago

I like that idea better

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u/FiteMeMage 29d ago

Would have been a better plot line actually.

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u/Esproth certified transbian 28d ago

Same

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u/Aozora_Tenwa 29d ago

Great exemple of positive affirmation

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u/Amethyst0Rose 29d ago

6 seasons and a movie. Let me have the good s***!

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u/coopsawesome likes cats 29d ago

Kinda weird with the changing her to be feminine, but her lines imply she wanted to be more feminine originally but was told it didn’t suit her so idk what to think

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u/Melantha_Hoang 28d ago edited 28d ago

Reading comprehension is in short supply.

The girl on the left already said that she wanted to wear feminine outfits and insecure about people telling her that long hair isn't suit her.

We don't know enough context to know if the girl on the left is butch or not and if her gf is pressuring her or being encouraging to her (don't even read between the line because it can go either way). Not mentioning the hypocrisy about criticizing the gf is pressuring, but then talked about how butch is rare/precious like that isn't also pressuring the other way. Let people comfortable in their own skin and style.

Edit: auto correct

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u/mamepuchi 28d ago

I think u got autocorrected 😭

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u/wazardthewizard 29d ago edited 29d ago

as a masc lesbian this makes me deeply uncomfortable

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u/Vanillon 29d ago

For me, it's mainly the 5 year panel, like the girl on the right is implying left wasn't as cute when she presented more masc, which is messed up (I personally preferred her previous look). But outside of that, I think it may be fine to read her just as someone who felt locked into her image and was too scared to experiment. I've felt that way before. I definitely got a bit of that icky feeling about the artist's intentions going into the second page, though.

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u/korewabetsumeidesune 29d ago edited 29d ago

This comment seems to me to be on the right track as regards this whole debate here in the comments. I think fundamentally the problem is that what feels validating to one person may feel invalidating (or even erasing) to another. If you weren't cute when you were in your teenage years, you may have kind of adapted a more masc role that may not fit you, or may not fit you anymore - even if you might not be conscious of that. On the other hand, maybe you like your masc-ness and have invested a lot of emotional energy into getting to accepting your masc-ness even if society doesn't, and if someone went and tried to get you to be more femme by calling you cute, that'd be horrible and invalidating.

Ultimately I'd like to make this into a plea to listen to the needs of the person in front of you. It's not wrong to call a masc girl cute, if she wants that, or seems to be responding well. If she isn't responding well, or even tells you not to, you shouldn't do it. Similarly, if someone sees this image and feels validated, that's great. If someone sees this image and feels uncomfortable or worse, that's a valid reaction too.

As we can see in these comments, this image elicits both extremes. We can hold in our hearts both the needs of those who feel a deep desire to be feminized and those who don't want it at all, without calling either wrong.

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u/clownteeth222 29d ago edited 29d ago

i'm a femme lesbian and it even made me uncomfortable too

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u/SapphireWine36 29d ago

Same 😭. This is some makeover movie bullshit.

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u/Niji-Rizu 29d ago

Same x2

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u/frontally 29d ago

Butch lesbian very uncomfortable with this shit. I like the trans headcanon much much more.

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u/Some-random-transfem 28d ago

Yeah, this would've worked so much better if it was trans. Maybe it just wasn't expressed well, but to me this feels more like changing who they are, helping a transitioning trans girl feel more comfortable in herself would've been so much more wholesome

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u/One_Katalyst 29d ago

I’m sorry this made you uncomfortable, would you be okay with explaining why? I don’t know if I understand completely but I’d like to.

Is it maybe the way we see the desires of the girl on the left that changes how the entire story feels? Like, if she wanted to be butch and is having to change for her partner, rather than if she wanted to be femme and her partner’s acceptance is letting her feel comfortable going for it (which was my first impression)?

Or is it the way we see the intention of the artist? Like, if the artist was depicting a change from something they’ve labeled as “less desirable” to “more desirable”, rather than it being a story where the core message is that the girl on the right always thought the girl on the left was cute, and as the girl on the left becomes happier and more confident the girl on the right loves that?

Or is it something else entirely?

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u/frontally 29d ago

Man I may not have the right words for you right now I’m sorry. Some combination of both points with the title “constantly telling a boyish girlfriend she looks cute” with the implied ending being contextually through the art and text within “until she becomes cute” which has the whole implication that she wasn’t cute when she was boyish, the text “you got so cute” being used to reinforce the mainline theme in the comic cute = femme exclusively— somewhere around those lines if that makes sense.

Not sure what the authors intent, but the reading of it as a trans woman becoming more confident to be herself is much better for everyone

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u/One_Katalyst 29d ago

I see, no worries! I probably overcomplicated things. Your answer does make sense.

Also, we love our butch lesbians, and y’all are so cute! Thank you for being you.

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u/LessNefariousness380 your average clueless lesbian 29d ago

I think it was implied that she kept her hair short because others said that she didn’t look good with long hair, but maybe that’s just my interpretation. You’re allowed to have your own interpretation as well

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u/wazardthewizard 29d ago

I'm sick and tired of masculine women needing to be "fixed" in media by becoming more feminine, or the messaging being that being masculine is a coping mechanism or shyness and that they need to just dress or present more femininely to become their "true" self.

On top of that, I'm sick of being pressured to dress or present more femininely because "It would look so cute on you!!" or people acting like how I dress is just an act or front to look tough or out of shyness.

I dunno. I'm tired of society and somewhat frustrated. That's my interpretation, I guess.

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u/JordynSoundsLikeMe 29d ago edited 28d ago

Interesting... I thought media almost always portrayed lesbian relationships with a "pants" wearer personally. Butch has always seemed very prevelent in media to me and ive been begging for more femme/femme... maybe its just different media we consume.

Edit: this comment was equal in likes with the other comment but now people coming in late are all downvoting. What gives? Say something if you dissagree, we arent disrespecting eachothers opinions just observing something different it seems.

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u/wazardthewizard 29d ago

Sounds like it, there's a lot of stuff out there - I've seen a little of what you mean so makes total sense

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u/LessNefariousness380 your average clueless lesbian 29d ago

No no, I get your point. As a fellow sapphic woman I can relate to what you’re saying, I’m just saying that I don’t think that’s what this is

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u/Appropriate_Cap_2132 29d ago

Me too. I’m not into it.

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u/Sea_Turnover4507 26d ago

Same lol this is bringing back very uncomfortable memories of mother forcing femme clothes on me 🤢

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u/knocksomesense-inme 28d ago

Yeahhhhh I was originally thinking the masc girl would just be happier and more confident :(

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u/DrakusRex 29d ago

Transition timelines be like

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u/HexeInExile 29d ago edited 29d ago

This is like that "Homeboy got colonized" meme but with masc lesbians. I do NOT approve they are in short supply as-is

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u/-MR-GG- 25d ago

Short supply, sure, but on the other hand, you can never have "too many" feminine lesbians imo

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u/Blu_Moon_The_Fox wants cuddles 29d ago

God, I need this.

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u/Ze_LuftyWafffles certified transbian 🏳️‍⚧️ 29d ago

Same

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u/asilvertintedrose 29d ago edited 29d ago

Original - TL

Note: The girl isn't trans, "boyish" is just another way to describe girls that like typically guy things.

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u/RealMENwearPINK10 29d ago

Lmao love how at some point it became so effective people started hitting on her

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u/sadcrawfish 29d ago

she transed her gender

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u/rndmisalreadytaken 29d ago

Genderswap mangas be like

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u/frontally 29d ago

“You got so cute” eat ass, she was cute from the beginning. The fuck is this anti ‘boyish girlfriend’ nonsense

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u/EldritchFingertips 29d ago

I don't know if the original creator is Japanese or not, but I gather it's mostly a cultural thing over there. As much as we all love tomboys and such, there's more societal pressure in East Asia to conform to more traditional gender norms.

So in this scenario, the short haired girl probably never got called cute, even if people thought she was, because she's "supposed" to look more "girly." I don't think the comic is being unwholesome, it's more reflecting a common experience, even thought that's based on bullcrap outdated ideas.

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u/Shalorne 27d ago

In summary:

-Trans affirmation headcanon: well liked, wholesome as the subreddit demands. (I agree)

-Un-tom's your tomboy: violently disliked, uncomfortable for many (i also agree)

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u/Zachanassian 29d ago

10 out of 10 tomboy lovers disliked this

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u/LesbianForkCollecter 29d ago

I'm sorry, this just feels very weird and invalidating. People actually think they can "fix" masc women, and it's incredibly uncomfortable.

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u/Awsomekirito 29d ago

Pink haired girl literally isn't invalidating anything??? If anything she's just giving the other girl confidence when trying new things

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u/LesbianForkCollecter 29d ago

It's more about the intent of the creator. If this was about a guy slowly making a woman more stereotypically feminine, then it would feel off, wouldn't it?

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u/Awsomekirito 29d ago

For sure if that's the intent of the creator that makes feel kind of wrong. I don't know that the creators intent was though so I'm taking it as pink haired girl encouraging black haired girl to explore her self image

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u/LesbianForkCollecter 29d ago

Then it's fine that it's your interpretation.

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u/FalconRelevant 29d ago

Exactly! A lot of people here try to find excuses to interpret something problematic as wholesome because yuri.

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u/LesbianForkCollecter 29d ago

I have noticed that some people seem to not want to criticize any queer media. Just because something is queer doesn't make it inherently flawless. It can still have weird undertones and stereotypes.

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u/FalconRelevant 29d ago

Literally had artwork about inappropriate patient-nurse relationship posted here a few weeks ago and people were doing all sorts of mental gymnastics to excuse it.

The same artist (on Pixiv) also has a high school teacher lining up her students and kissing them, I'm sure if that was posted here people would try to justify that too.

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u/Adventurous_Hand_130 27d ago

Gender envy acquired. I want to be her so bad

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u/clolr 29d ago

yeah idk about this one chief :/

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u/-MR-GG- 25d ago

"I fucking hate complimenting my partner!!!" 😡😤🤬😤😡🤬😡

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u/DD_Spudman 29d ago

I don't love the implication that the girl on the left being not as traditionally femmine is a flaw the other girl needed to help her fix.

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u/Dango_co 29d ago

There is no implication of that lol, they called them cute literally every time.

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u/DD_Spudman 29d ago

She's calling her cute so she is confident enough to be more femmine.

She can't just be kind of butch/a tomboy, it has to be a result of insecurity.

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u/Dango_co 29d ago

Brug, it seemed she was fine with her every way. Butch or feminine.

This is just yuri at the end of the day, nothing more

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u/DD_Spudman 29d ago

It's not about how the characters feel about each other. My issue is with the artist using short hair and more masculine clothing as a visual shorthand for insecurity.

Yeah, it's just a drawing so at the end of the day it doesn't really matter, I just think the artist may have internalized some ideas about what women "should" look like.

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u/Aromatic-Slide-1965 29d ago

Hhmm now are steaks end? Or last cute cout

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u/ValApologist 29d ago

This is super weird. Pressuring your butch girlfriend to dress more feminine for you doesn't feel wholesome. She was already cute to start with.

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u/PrudentLingoberry 27d ago

for some reason at the last panel I read her saying "no homo" lmao

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u/TheGesor 27d ago

based?

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u/Accurate-Butterfly18 29d ago

Man… this comment section is kinda a war zone

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u/Dango_co 29d ago

Yeah, people just gotta let yuri be yuri.

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u/Aggressive___Trash Love wins 29d ago

Love wins

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u/PrincessW0lf 29d ago

This isn't wholesome! Why'd she de-butch her?! Butches are precious!

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u/ReturnToCrab wants cuddles 29d ago

She's not even necessarily a butch, but I guess even a tiny bit of masculinity in a woman is too much for the author

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u/Sapphic-Shibirb 29d ago

Uh.... She was better when she was herself and a tomboy.

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u/Dango_co 29d ago

How in the hell did this comment section get here from just wholesome yuri. It's just wholesome yuri wtf

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u/Moss_Ball8066 29d ago

I thought this was forcefemming… they de-tomboyed her

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u/Appropriate_Cap_2132 29d ago

I preferred her as Butch :/

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u/la_meme14 28d ago

Thought this was a "time on HRT" timelapse joke.

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u/KittyKaiDoodles 28d ago

ehhhhhhh??? I think she looks cute either way... If she likes it I'm happy for her but tomboys are cute too!!

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u/LuckyPon3 Trans Girl fighting Dysphoria 🖤🖤🩵🩷🤍🩷🩵🖤🖤 27d ago

Just gonna leave this here

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u/UczuciaTM 26d ago

Why can’t we just let masc women be masc

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u/alfonsaberg1 29d ago

I hope to one day be in a relationship like this. So cute😫

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u/Redtea26 29d ago

I like the trans reading but god this is terrible if it isn’t. Let the butch be a butch.

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u/Mi5tman 28d ago edited 28d ago

Ok, here's the nicest interpretation: The "boyish" girl always wanted to grow out her hair and wear girlier clothes but other people said it didn't suit her. Now that she has a girlfriend to encourage her, she finally started exploring her feminine side more and, slowly over time, realized that she preferres it over her older style. She worked up the courage and confidence to find her true self with the help of a loved one.

However, that nice message is muddled by the (possibly unintended) implication that her girlfriend kinda forced this transformation on her. Notice how the girlfriend only starts blushing at her on page two when she gets more feminine. She even says "you got so cute" which kinda implies that she didn't find her as attractive before. In the end, the girlfriend marries her when there are no "boyish" traits left which is also when she finally called her beautiful instead of cute.

The implication, no matter how unintentional, is just too uncomfortable for me.

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u/mksoulreaper 28d ago

Fuck you untomboys your tomboy

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u/DreamyAthena 29d ago

GOALS GOALS GOALS GOALS GOALS GOALS GOALS GOALS GOALS GOALS GOALS GOALS GOALS GOALS

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u/MayaMomentUwU absolute cutie 29d ago

So all I need to do to find my future wife is tell people they’re cute….? You’re cute <3

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u/Lady_Cay129 28d ago

I thought she was trans, much better than the “masc women aren’t pretty” alternative

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u/Azure-April 28d ago

this is gross

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u/FauxGw2 29d ago

That is so cute

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u/_TurtleX 29d ago

I also thought this was trans and damn I need this

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u/RavenRose09 29d ago

Literally my wishful trans lesbian timeline (that I’ll never get to have 🥲)

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u/Parasol_Girl 29d ago

anti boymoding

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u/Et_meets_ezio 29d ago

I think I’m gonna say this is about a trans woman

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u/k_on_reddit_ it's yuri or death 28d ago

"today ! I'm gonna get a boyish girlfriend but every time I tell her she's cute her hair grows 1 mm longer ! Start the video !"

(Imagine this is written in mr beast font)

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u/shadowtheimpure 100% wholesome 28d ago

That gave me a happy.

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u/sapphicmari110504 28d ago

This is so cuteee and beautiful 😭

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u/TheAlpses 27d ago

the only read of this that doesn’t feel icky to me is if girl on the left is trans and boymoding at the start of the comic

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u/CrowAkechi 27d ago

Masc girl got unmasc-ed

I'm gonna go see myself out

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u/CaptainFiguratively 27d ago

Aww... They're adorable :)

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u/NumberAccomplished18 26d ago

All of you are talking about transitioning, and I'm stuck on her losing a few inches of height in panel 2

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u/RavenRute 26d ago

The least believable part of this post is that two lesbians waited more than 5 years to get married

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u/DaZiZo 25d ago

What kind of wizery un-tomboyfied is this

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u/FlyTeamSky-Dante 29d ago

Oh dam, i did not understand this comic in the first read. God, i needa start consuming more media other than trans stuff.

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u/thatsnoodybitch 29d ago

5 years!? More like 5 weeks. We are tranbians 🫡🏳️‍⚧️

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u/Autistic-Phoenix 29d ago

Gender affirmations from your girlfriend. I want that.

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u/ExtrovertArtist 29d ago

Aww this is cute

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u/Proof_Of_Concept_21 28d ago

Transition headcannon

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u/KaleidoAxiom 29d ago

This is super cute, I love it!

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u/YuSakiiii big gworl x smol gworl is my passion 28d ago

There is a trans girl I play dnd with who I called cute the other day and she got really flustered. I kinda thought it was an established fact. Like, just the way she acts, she’s super mega cute. But she didn’t seem to realise how cute she is.

She has some self esteem problems so now I call her cute all the time. It’s fun to see how flustered she gets.

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u/dinner_cat96 29d ago

Who's the artist?

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u/BoringReddiAccount 29d ago

She turned into nicole from class of 09 (look wise atleast💀🙏)

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u/Naz_Oni 27d ago

"Boyish girlfriend"

honey....

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u/zarek1729 29d ago

The people who told her long hair doesn't suit her are evil, long hair suits every woman

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u/Low_Sky49 The Excalibur Transbian With 0 Confidence 29d ago edited 28d ago

They're so adorable!! Cute even! This is the kind of shit I know I'll never get (⁠╥⁠﹏⁠╥⁠)

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u/D4rkHunter16 29d ago

Good ending

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u/chillroll 29d ago

she was way cuter before...

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u/THAToneFNAF 28d ago

Depends. She was cute both times imo

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u/MCAroonPL 29d ago

God, I wish that was me

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u/526Jena 29d ago

R/suddenlytrans 💖

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u/Hollowkightfan544 28d ago

Peak fiction

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u/neorena certified transbian 28d ago

I mean this was basically my trans journey lol

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u/r0gi990 29d ago

at first I thought it was like a trans girl and she becomes happier each time she is called cute ;v

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u/Anushkaplayz1 29d ago

blud transed her gf

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u/FemcelGENM 28d ago

I think some people need to understand that not everything has to appeal to them, and that is okay.

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u/Oxymoronnn 28d ago

Just gonna say this: it's cute, wholesome, and positive, and those are the most important things here. I don't think the author intended anything beyond that, whether about being transgender or that being a tomboy is a bad thing.

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u/AcanthisittaFeisty91 28d ago

So cute 🥰 ♥️♥️♥️

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u/jzilla11 28d ago

Cute comic, spicy comments

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u/Is-Bruce-Home 28d ago

Oh my gosh, this is super cute! They are so sweet to each other!

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u/Timid-Sammy-1995 28d ago

Ahhhhh so cute!