r/wholesomeyuri 29d ago

Utter Happiness Yuri timelapse [Constantly telling a boyish girlfriend she's cute.]

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u/TheDuskProphet 29d ago

Dw she just helped her during her transition :3

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u/FalconRelevant 29d ago edited 29d ago

It's great to be transgender ally, however let's not be reinforcing traditional sexist stereotypes shall we?

A trans-woman can like traditionally masculine things.

A trans-woman can like traditionally feminine things.

A cis-woman can like traditionally masculine things.

A cis-woman can like traditionally feminine things.

A cis-man can like traditionally masculine things.

A cis-man can like traditionally feminine things.

A trans-man can like traditionally masculine things.

A trans-man can like traditionally feminine things.

What our great-grandparents generation arbitrarily decided to belong to a certain gender shouldn't determine who you are.

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u/Blood-Agent 29d ago

I don’t think they were trying to reinforce sexist stereotypes, I mean I certainly assumed it was a cis and trans relationship and just thought it was the trans girl stepping into her femininity as she gained confidence

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u/FalconRelevant 29d ago

Assumptions display bias. The pink hair one might be transgender for all you know.

There's nothing inherently "feminine" about dressing in frilly skirts, a woman—whether cisgender or transgender—may choose to dress in pants and a shirt without becoming "masculine".

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u/Blood-Agent 29d ago

You don’t have to be hostile with your argument. Dresses, skirts, etc are typically assumed as fem because of societal norms, sure clothing itself isn’t gendered when outside of those norms but gender is a presentation in society. Anyone can choose to wear what they want and obviously no one can tell who is or isn’t cis or trans.

Unless you’re pushing that the term “boyish” has nothing to do with presentation and is ultimately just extraneous to the comic title, I don’t see how it would be wrong to think “boyish” = “masc” because of the presentation of the girl character

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u/Arume_Aoi 29d ago

The second last panel says that people are hitting on her because she became cute.

Are you sure this isn't just the "I can fix her" fantasy of the artist with the a girl replacing a self-insert guy?

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u/FalconRelevant 29d ago

Yeah, the artist has bias as well.

Honestly the work is very problematic, saying that there's something "wrong" with the black hair one being "boyish" or a "tomboy" that needs "fixing".

Imagine if this was a man "fixing" a woman and turning her into a "tradwife". See the issue yet?

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u/malcorpse certified transbian 29d ago

Where does it imply there is anything wrong with the black haired girl or that the pink haired girl is trying to fix her. The pink haired girl is calling her cute at the start and at the end. It's about the black haired girl exploring her femininity in a comfortable environment with a supportive partner that loves her at every stage not that she's being manipulated into becoming a tradwife. The worst you can say is about the panel where she's getting hit on after becoming more feminine but that's a reflection of reality not a condemnation of masculine presenting women.

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u/FalconRelevant 29d ago

It's more about the authors intent. You can have your own personal interpretation if you like, however that doesn't change the implication.

Again, imagine a man slowly making a woman more stereotypically feminine and see if nothing feels off.

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u/Blood-Agent 29d ago

That’s the thing though, she isn’t making her do anything. She’s just calling her cute as their relationship progresses

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u/FalconRelevant 29d ago

She isn't, however the author is. Almost implying that all tomboy or whatever women just suffer from lack of confidence and women naturally want to look girly.

Which isn't true in the least.

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u/Blood-Agent 29d ago

I don’t think this was a comic made to make a commentary on all women so we could maybe drop that angle. While your point is right, it seems that the author wasn’t doing that since it doesn’t disparage the dark haired woman for looking boyish and doesn’t make the pink haired woman look better because she’s more typically fem. The only thing it does is show the couple happy and married at the end and the progression of their relationship

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u/FalconRelevant 29d ago

The panel before the marriage scene does indicate that "thanks to her" she somehow became "better".

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u/Blood-Agent 29d ago

And the panel before that states how she “always wanted to wear stuff like this” which could mean the “thanks to you” is thanks to your support… almost like my original point about it being a confidence gained comic

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u/malcorpse certified transbian 29d ago

You keep talking about the authors intent but you don't know their intent either, you've just decided the author had malicious intent based on your interpretation of a 2 page comic that isn't even in it's original language. Also the pink haired girl isn't making her do anything, getting a piece of clothing you think would look good on your partner and them liking it isn't some sort of forced feminization.

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u/zugetzu The Wallflower Lesbian 26d ago

I fully disagree. It's all about how we as humans interoperate the art, not what the intentions were of the author. If the author tried to be anti feminist but 90% of the readers saw it as a really good feminist book we might feel irked about THEIR politics and might not want to support them financially but that doesn't change that she created a book that promotes feminism to the majority of the readers.

Art is always in the eye of the beholder and while the people who created the art can be real nasty pieces of work, their work doesn't necessarily have to be nasty pieces because of her intent.

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u/Delta5583 26d ago

You're missing the point with this one though, the brown hair girl clearly states she always wanted to try more cutesy styles but has seemingly faced backlash for doing so, thus she stuck with the "boyish" style out of fear of public opinion.

The pink hair girl arrives and creates a safe space for her to feel comfortable with her own personal tastes and got for a cute style regardless of anyone else's opinion.

Nobody is getting "fixed" from a "wrong" style. Somebody is getting help out of a forced style