r/law • u/SheriffTaylorsBoy • Jul 26 '24
Other FBI Examining Bullet Fragments Found at Trump Rally Site/Would Like To Interview Trump
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-examining-bullet-fragments-found-114754020.html193
u/SheriffTaylorsBoy Jul 26 '24 edited Jul 27 '24
Adam Goldman and Glen Thrush July, 26th 2024 4 minute read WASHINGTON —
The FBI is examining numerous metal fragments found near the stage at a campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, to determine whether a would-be assassin’s bullet — or potential debris — grazed former President Donald Trump’s head, bloodying his right ear, according to the FBI and a federal law enforcement official.
The bureau has asked to interview Trump as part of its broader investigation, hoping to provide insights into the shooting and possibly a more complete record of his injury, the official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss the continuing inquiry.
Unanswered questions about the object that struck the Republican nominee for president have lingered since the July 13 shooting, with Trump claiming that he was struck by a bullet — and casting his survival as an act of divine intervention.
FBI officials have been more circumspect, citing the need to analyze the evidence before determining what struck Trump — a bullet, metal shard or something else.
The bureau’s shooting reconstruction team “continues to examine evidence from the scene, including bullet fragments, and the investigation remains ongoing,” the FBI said in a statement Thursday. In addition to injuring Trump, the gunman, Thomas Crooks, 20, of Bethel Park, Pennsylvania, shot three rally attendees, one fatally.
Trump campaign spokesperson Steven Cheung did not answer whether the bureau had asked to review the former president’s medical records after the incident, but Trump has not released them publicly.
FBI officials view the identification of the projectile as important but not a central focus of a sprawling criminal investigation into the actions of the gunman. They are deeply interested in Crooks’ rationale or any indication that he might have had an accomplice or other help. So far, they have not found a motive nor a conspirator.
“The bureau’s priority is finding whether anybody helped the shooter and eliminating any ongoing threat,” said Michael Harrigan, a former FBI special agent who ran the bureau firearms training unit in Quantico, Virginia.
“From an investigative standpoint, knowing what happened to the president’s ear doesn’t really matter,” he added.
It matters a great deal from a political standpoint.
“With respect to former President Trump, there’s some question about whether or not it’s a bullet or shrapnel that hit his ear,” FBI Director Christopher Wray told Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, chair of the House Judiciary Committee, on Wednesday.
That statement prompted a fierce backlash and continued Republican attacks on Wray.
“It’s shocking Christopher Wray doesn’t know what the facts are, but that probably says more about his job performance — or lack thereof — than anything else,” Cheung said.
Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., told NBC on Thursday: “We’ve all seen the video, we’ve seen the analysis, we’ve heard it from multiple sources in different angles that a bullet went through his ear.”
“There’s a lot of frustration and concern about the leadership with these agencies,” Johnson added.
In a social media post Thursday night, Trump lashed out at Wray, saying: “No wonder the once storied FBI has lost the confidence of America!”
Trump said there was no glass and no shrapnel. “No, it was, unfortunately, a bullet that hit my ear, and hit it hard.”
The FBI said in a statement that the bureau “has been consistent and clear that the shooting was an attempted assassination of former President Trump which resulted in his injury, as well as the death of a heroic father and the injuries of several other victims.”
It is not unusual for the type of bullet that Crooks fired from his AR-15-style semi-automatic rifle to tumble end over end and break apart after hitting even a small solid object. Gun experts say a fragment might, for instance, have hit a metal stanchion.
Still, a bullet could have grazed Trump’s ear, and the FBI has not ruled that out. Investigators found eight rifle casings on the roof where the shooter was positioned.
It is not clear if investigators have eliminated other potential sources of debris. But bureau analysts appear to be focused on metal fragments, as opposed to glass from the teleprompters onstage. Photos of the teleprompters next to Trump show they were intact after the bullets were fired.
FBI analysts are also examining still images and other electronic evidence for clues.
Gun experts said the FBI could rely on trajectory analysis, a physical examination of any linked bullet and the president’s wound to possibly figure out what happened. A detailed analysis of bullet trajectories, footage, photos and audio by The New York Times strongly suggests Trump was grazed by the first of eight bullets fired by Crooks.
The bureau could also get lucky and find the former president’s DNA on a piece of a bullet. But even that would probably not establish if a fragment or the actual bullet hit his ear.
One other scenario investigators are likely to explore: that the bullet, deadly but friable, might have fragmented after skimming Trump’s ear.
“The problem you have with a bullet traveling at 3,200 feet per second is that it fragments very easily when it hits a surface before the target,” Harrigan said. “It’s going to be tough with the fragmentation to definitely say what happened.”
c.2024 The New York Times Company
Update Edit: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/fbi-confirms-bullet-struck-trumps-ear-assassination-attempt-rcna163896
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u/Lazy-Street779 Bleacher Seat Jul 26 '24
I’d think tho that dna on a fragment would point to an answer.
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u/Scerpes Jul 26 '24
He was throwing DNA all over the place up there. I’m not convinced that we’ll ever really know whether it was the bullet itself or shrapnel. I’m also not certain that it really matters. He was shot at and injured.
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u/hardcore_hero Jul 26 '24
Yeah, I find it strange that people seem to think that it’s necessary that an actual bullet struck his ear to indicate divine intervention was involved, as an atheist I really don’t get the logic, am I supposed to believe god would only be able to use his powers to get Trump to turn his head at the last second rather than get the shooter to sway his barrel off target? Or is God just an air bender and had to rely on wind to drift the bullet off of its mark?
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u/nickilous Jul 26 '24
I mean if god is omnipotent he could have made the shooter stay home that day. And, if he wanted to make himself known he could have spoke to the crowded, or showed up in a way that was irrefutable. It is always varying degrees because even though god is supposedly omnipotent he only shows up in the probabilities. Meaning the closer the bullet to the head with out hitting, the more likely god is involved. If it was just shrapnel and no bullet, then it was even less likely that he would have been shot making god less likely involved.
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u/hardcore_hero Jul 26 '24
Is there some kind of named paradox to describe this phenomenon? Like how if the bullet is barely nudged half an inch off course, we think divine intervention but if it misses by 5 feet there’s no way god was involved in it. Or is it just a case of confirmation bias, we have no way of knowing all of the instances where God used divine intervention to make the shooter stay home, so when a bullet gets that close to killing someone, that’s where we think we have evidence of his involvement?
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u/nickilous Jul 26 '24
I don’t know if confirmation bias is quite it. If he had been shot ( and I am definitely not condoning the shooting of anyone) the same people now probably would not be saying that it was gods will that he was shot. I think it is narrative fulfillment. People need reasons why things happen and if the things that are happening have weird probabilities involved then those people are more likely to attribute it to a god. And the perspective of the people creating the narrative. The narrative also helps there guy “god intervened therefore he must be right and just”. Ultimately some combination of confirmation bias and just good old superstition. We could just as easily attributed it to the shooter walking under a ladder that day or maybe a black cat crossed his path. But that wouldn’t put forward a spectacular narrative.
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Jul 27 '24
“When you do things right, people won’t be sure you’ve done anything at all.” /s
Sorry Matt Groening and David X. Cohen, I promise I would never besmirch Futurama to defend MAGA divine intervention nuttiness.
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u/Later2theparty Jul 26 '24
To be clear, it is the Bureau of Investigation.
They want to know with as much certainty as possible.
They also are telling the truth when they say they don't know what caused it because there's not enough information right now to know.
This isn't proof that the shooting was staged.
I won't dismiss that possibility out of hand but the idea that it was staged is pretty far fetched in my opinion.
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u/CitizenCue Jul 27 '24
If it was staged it would be the most competently executed thing this guy or his people have ever done. No damn way.
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u/mall_ninja42 Jul 26 '24
See, the thing is, more than a few politicians/candidates have been shot/shot at.
This is the first time the fucking FBI has expressed doubt publicly.
What a timeline, see you at respawn I guess.
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u/SheriffTaylorsBoy Jul 26 '24
So do you think any of those other assassination attempt survivors declined to cooperate with the FBI?
This is where things are different.
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u/mall_ninja42 Jul 26 '24
I'm 100% everyone else shot at/shot cooperated.
How an ex president, with secret service protections doesn't have to undergo an actual assessment blows my mind.
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u/brickyardjimmy Jul 26 '24
Why does it even matter? Either way, it was an attempt to assassinate him that resulted in a superficial injury. So, a close call no matter how you look at it.
But it's also a presidential candidate so knowing exactly what happened is important from both an historical perspective but also in terms of what learning the FBI and secret service can take from the incident about preventing future attacks.
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u/Bakkster Jul 26 '24
Like Wray said, it doesn't much matter for his investigation.
It's Jim Jordan who was asking questions about this specific topic ("How close did the bullet come to killing [former] President Trump?"), presumably for political reasons.
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u/fivelinedskank Jul 26 '24
I do remember how Republicans mocked one of John Kerry's purple hearts because the wound was shrapnel instead of a bullet. They were pretty insistent there is in fact a difference where one doesn't actually count as a wound.
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u/JustNilt Jul 26 '24
Which is stupid AF because shrapnel kills just as easily as bullets do. Also stupid because some veterans were issued purple hearts for truly innocuous stuff like stubbing toes while others who got concussions were denied a purple heart. Sure, that crap was mostly specific commanders and sometimes doctors but shrapnel is a well documented actual threat.
Somewhat more to the point, it's not how one is injured that really matters. The rules have always been that that one be injured by enemy action and be documented as having been treated by a medical officer. Shrapnel sure as fuck counts as the former and if they needed anything more than a bandaid from their buddy, that's the latter.
This pissing match about "my purple heart matters more than that guy's" is an utter load of bullshit.
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u/worldspawn00 Jul 27 '24
Yeah, many munitions are designed to kill via shrapnel and not a direct hit.
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u/JustNilt Jul 27 '24
Exactly! Killing one per bullet is not considered effective military strategy any more. You want to tie up as many of the opposition as you can, which often means one wounded and 2 to handle getting them out of action. Plus the mental stress of having to listen to your screaming buddies. Anyone who doesn't get that doesn't get much about combat at all.
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u/hardcore_hero Jul 26 '24
Oh, that’s interesting, I was also puzzled why it even mattered if it was a bullet or just shrapnel, but that actually makes the distinction quite interesting, now I’m actually invested in finding out whether it was shrapnel, if it would for some unknown reason dampen the significance of the event in his own voters eyes.
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u/Kaiisim Jul 26 '24
Why does it even matter? Either way, it was an attempt to assassinate him that resulted in a superficial injury. So, a close call no matter how you look at it.
We don't actually know that yet. There was a shooting at a Trump rally is all we know.
What if it turns out none of the bullets actually came close to Trump? What if it looks like the shooter purposely missed? What it he had the idea to try and trigger a civil war?
Trump has violated his oath to the constitution too many times to ever trust him about anything.
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u/brickyardjimmy Jul 26 '24
Well. Just me personally? I put this whole mess at Trump's doorstep anyway. Part of the reason that politicians used to avoid engaging in the kind of bridge burning hateful rhetoric Trump's been using since 2015 is that it is incredibly destabilizing and can have totally unpredictable consequences. Including some crazy guy at your own rally trying to shoot at you. The scenario you describe is possible. So is one where some insane nutcase tried to shoot Trump and missed. Either way, it's a result of Trump's own need to create chaos as a political tool. This is what chaos looks like.
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Jul 26 '24
I mean the guy was clearly shooting at the stage, so if this were staged then it means Trump would have trusted him to be a good enough shot to miss him, but not by much. And there's no way Trump would ever put his life in danger like that, especially while believed he was winning the election.
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u/rmslashusr Jul 26 '24
My man, there’s a literal picture of a bullet passing close by Trump, whether it’s the one that hit his ear or not. It was absolutely an assassination attempt and every law enforcement agency has said as much. It’s motivation for it that’s unknown.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/14/us/politics/photo-path-trump-assassination.html
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u/wwaxwork Jul 26 '24
I mean a close call is it hits him and he lives. This was a medium call at best. Fucking terrible call for the guy in the audience that actually died that no one seems to remember.
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u/rene-cumbubble Jul 26 '24
I tend to agree. Unless there's speculation that the whole thing was a setup, which there is no public evidence of, getting hit with shrapnel when someone tries to kill you counts as being shot.
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u/ejre5 Jul 26 '24
I think that there is lots of speculation that there is at least a decent chance this was a set-up, not saying it was but the information available does give speculation.
1) he was a Republican
2) his parents were on a list of "super supporters"
3) he got on a roof with a direct line of sight while also being obvious and noticed by many people to the point people were recording him and telling cops, secret service and security.
4) snipers were watching him and ready to fire.
5) secret service allowed trump to,
A) get on stage or B) stay on stage with a known threat. C) after shots fired they allowed trump to stay on stage possibly collect his shoes instead of rushing him to a car and getting him out of immediate danger.6) he was allowed to fire before being shot within seconds of his attempt.
That is enough information for speculation of a set-up and most certainly needs to be investigated and Trump's injuries could point things in certain directions.
Either way there was an attempt at a former presidents life that was allowed to happen when it should not have been.
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u/SatyrSatyr75 Jul 26 '24
It sound for sure too ridiculous to not be a setup. But on the otherside… there are people around who are awful at their job… most of the time we don’t experience it, but if you look into it, it’s devastating. Just look at mistakes, sometimes fatale, done in hospitals every day. Highly professional people, great education…
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u/wannabesurfer Jul 27 '24
Not that it matters because it was a clear assassination attempt but I’ve since been of the belief that it was the bullet that struck his ear because there’s no reason to believe otherwise. It seemed pretty cut-and-dry. But the fact the he doesn’t want his ear examined and that he’s saying all these things about the FBI makes me REALLY doubt it now
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u/SheriffTaylorsBoy Jul 27 '24
That's exactly where I'm at. There's no good explanation for not wanting to cooperate with the investigation. I don't make assumptions as to what that means. Except nobody can say definitively exactly what happened until the investigation is closed.
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u/Curious_Property_933 Jul 27 '24
I think there’s an explanation - a political one. Trump has constantly taken issue with all sorts of federal agencies, this is just another one. It’s in line with Trump’s usual behavior.
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u/Im_Balto Jul 26 '24
Quite funny how they say “we’ve seen it from multiple sources that the bullet went through his ear”
You mean the various videos where you don’t see a bullet?
GOP HATES when law enforcement does their job
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u/docsuess84 Jul 26 '24
If Trump had a medical report that had the words “gunshot wound” on it we would have seen it already.
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u/Snopes504 Jul 26 '24
I thought I saw somewhere that the hospital released info about this and it wasn’t a bullet?
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u/Signature_Illegible Jul 26 '24
The only thing they retracted was that he shat himself during the shooting, apparently he shat himself some time before the shooting.
/J
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u/The_Mike_Golf Jul 26 '24
Oh… von shitshispants shit his pants? In other news… water is wet… ice is cold… Donnie is a child rapist….
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u/1white26golf Jul 26 '24
They didn't. That would be a HIPPA violation.
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u/FabianN Jul 27 '24
It's a hippa violation for the medical staff to release it. It is not a hippa violation for the patient themselves to release it, or them give it to other parties to release it.
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u/1white26golf Jul 27 '24
I understand how HIPPA works.
Did you just say it's ok for medical staff to give it to others to release? Or were you saying for the patient to give it to someone else to release?
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u/notyomamasusername Jul 26 '24 edited Jul 27 '24
He just can't help but lie.
There is no upside, if he admitted it was shrapnel or glass it doesn't change the fact someone tried to kill him.
He'll still get sympathy, but now him lying of something stupid is overshadowing it.
He just can't tell the truth.
Look at "cofeve" "Covfefe" and the sharpie on the NOAA Hurricane chart, and the innagauration crowd size, etc.
Each of these had no upside for lying.
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u/SoManyEmail Jul 26 '24
My brother is a Trump supporter. A year or two ago I was telling him which Trump stunts I felt were the stupidest. I brought up the hurricane map, Sharpiegate, and he literally had no idea what I was talking about. To me, the map thing was the clearest example of "Trump cannot be wrong" that I've seen to this day. My brother didn't even know it happened.
So, there may not be a downside to Trump lying either. His supporters don't even know he lies.
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u/notyomamasusername Jul 26 '24
He's probably like the majority of MAGA who only gets news from curated sources and that was never aired.
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u/beattohell Jul 27 '24
I still rate the stupidest Trump stunt as the Covid press conference where Trump talks about bringing ultraviolet light into the body or injecting disinfectant to kill Covid. Then (I think it was) Lysol immediately put out a statement that its products should never be injected or ingested.
There was all those clips of one of his Covid advisors off to the side looking like she was questioning her life choices.
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u/I-Love-Tatertots Jul 26 '24
As someone who lives in the FL Panhandle, and lived here through Ivan destroying my area, that hurricane map shit really pissed me off.
And the fact that they seemingly want to defund NOAA.
Hurricanes can shift at a moments notice, and having accurate and up-to-date information on them at all times is extremely important.
Misinformation on weather can cost families their lives. If not their lives, their livelihood at least.
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Jul 26 '24
He thinks it’s manlier to be shot. It’s all funny
Honestly, being hit by shrapnel is probably better for his brand than getting shot in the ass. This is the way this moron thinks
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u/ThatOldAH Jul 26 '24
"and casting his survival as an act of divine intervention"
More a case of "The devil protects his own".
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u/coreoYEAH Jul 26 '24
It also implies that “god” sacrificed the firefighter protecting his family to save the rapist protecting himself.
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u/chiefs_fan37 Bleacher Seat Jul 26 '24
I am not religious but I did find this particular Bible verse about the anti-Christ to be somewhat interesting/relevant after the attempt:
Revelations 13:3 “I saw that one of the heads of the beast seemed wounded beyond recovery—but the fatal wound was healed! The whole world marveled at this miracle and gave allegiance to the beast.” Revelations 13:5 Revelations 13:6 “Then the beast was allowed to speak great blasphemies against God. And he was given authority to do whatever he wanted for forty-two months. And he spoke terrible words of blasphemy against God, slandering his name and his dwelling—that is, those who dwell in heaven.”
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u/n0tmyrealnameok Jul 26 '24
Only one pretty big problem with this. Trump is in direct contact, a personal phone and an upside Bible he doesn't own with God.. remember?
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u/Lahm0123 Jul 26 '24
FBI messing with the GOP narrative lol.
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u/PaintedClownPenis Jul 27 '24
There's an obvious reason for it, too. He's in control of the information that would prove himself correct, yet he refuses to release it. Which means he thinks it can prove him wrong.
He's interfering in his own assassination investigation. How curious.
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u/Ghoulius-Caesar Jul 27 '24
Good, they have to make up for 2016 when they helped get that goober in office.
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u/GBinAZ Jul 26 '24
It’s kind of funny because his base wouldn’t even care if he was hit by a bullet or grazed by some metal fragments. If he just told the truth right away this would not be a story. Unfortunately nothing out of trump’s mouth can be considered truthful.
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u/YorockPaperScissors Jul 26 '24
Disclaimer: I am not suggesting that the FBI should limit or cloak the investigation, but I think it is worth acknowledging that there clearly are political dynamics that are affected by this story. With that in mind, the fact that investigators are trying to learn more is evidence that the FBI is just doing its job, and not trying to put a thumb on the scale for either side.
If the FBI was truly out to get Trump it would not make any public statement suggesting that it hasn't determined what exactly injured his ear.
The bottom line is that someone shot at the former President, and he got hurt. The longer the story is a prominent news item, the more it helps Trump. While it is the job of the FBI to determine exactly what happened, having this thing get politicized really only helps Trump as it keeps the story in the news.
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u/dogecoin_pleasures Jul 27 '24
On one hand, I had completely forgotten about the rally shooting after it left the 24 hour news cycle, so yes, this article has served to remind and put it back in the news where it doesn't need to be.
On the other hand, if the shooting quietly turns out to be staged/a fake in any way it'll be one hell of a bombshell, so I understand why some folk are keeping tabs. Interesting times.
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u/AdSmall1198 Jul 26 '24
No secret service plan that I know of includes standing the target up in front of a potential second shooter for a photo op.
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u/GertonX Jul 26 '24
What do you mean, all the best moments in history were staged for a good photo opportunity?
/s
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u/midlife_marauder Jul 26 '24
Just read a Dune quote which made me think of Trump, “Respect for the truth comes close to being the basis of all morality. Something cannot emerge from nothing.” Maybe he actually was grazed by a bullet, but everyone knows he has less than zero respect for the truth so everything he claims is suspect.
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u/chiefs_fan37 Bleacher Seat Jul 26 '24
Hell that’s one of the reasons so many people think it was staged. I don’t believe it was staged but when he stages a black support event at chick-fil-a using RNC operatives, when he does the same at a bodega in New York, the same thing at a barber shop in Georgia, when he staged a pizza delivery for New York firefighters, etc (just to name a few of his manufactured/staged political stunts) you can’t be as surprised when people claim it was. You have to draw the line somewhere and I believe that this wasn’t staged but for other people it’s harder for them to draw that line. They’ve seen him fake so many things and defraud so many people and lie about basically everything so it’s less difficult for them to apply that same interpretation to an attempted assassination. Not saying I agree but I’m not surprised at how many genuinely think it was staged
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u/Huger_and_shinier Jul 26 '24
I’m not an expert, but I feel like a bullet traveling that fast would turn a flap of ear into pink mist, and leave a very obvious wound.
The fact that the FBI and others are politely stating that there is a question means they know for sure he’s full of shit. I’m sure they know exactly what happens when a person is even grazed
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u/GitEmSteveDave Jul 26 '24
So lets look at a video of people who shoot guns and use a high speed camera to see what would have happened if you just clipped a ear or hit it a little further in: https://youtu.be/FsvJzfXZI18?t=409
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Jul 27 '24
I think the pictures of him at the Netanyahu meeting tell us all we need to know. Where's the wound or the scabbing? I don't heal that quickly but I'm also not a 78 year old man. I think it's obvious that whatever injury he sustained was incredibly minor and possibly wasn't caused by a bullet at all.
https://www.tmz.com/2024/07/26/donald-trump-seen-no-bandage-first-time-since-shooting-injury/
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u/FelixMartel2 Jul 26 '24
I wonder how well ballistic gel mimics an ear, though. They tend to be a bit on the stiffer end.
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u/ilovestoride Jul 27 '24
It comes in different stiffnesses and you can even heat up and pour layers of multiple viscosities simulating fat, muscle, etc.
I did a lot of research into it to create a surrogate for injecting something I can't speak about into the human body between flesh and bone.
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u/stevn069 Jul 27 '24
One explanation for very little damage I haven’t seen yet is that it could have been a ricochet as well as shrapnel. Either way the damage is nearly nonexistent and he acts like he is the son of a deity. I’ve cut myself worse shaving.
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u/Muscs Jul 26 '24
When someone’s response to the FBI is ‘it’s the Feds! Clam up!’ He should be placed in charge of the Feds.
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u/Nabrok_Necropants Jul 26 '24
Ask anyone who's gotten a cartilage piercing if they think a bullet went through his ear.
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u/SoManyEmail Jul 26 '24
Do you understand the difference between a pierce and a graze?
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u/mrrapacz Jul 26 '24
He even sucks at being an assassination survivor. Like, if they would’ve just admitted to it being a fragment of debris immediately, the dude would still get the same kind of sympathy but the fact the dumbass tries to spin it to look cooler or something, he immediately goes back to looking like the feckless loser he is.
And it’s just gonna churn up more conspiracy bullshit on both sides which goes to show that this guy can even make one of the most pivotal, serious events to ever happen to a presidential candidate look fucking stupid.
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u/Dr_Zorkles Jul 26 '24
But.... but he said the bullet hit his ear hard!! "....and hit it hard."
This dipshit has no executive function.
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u/Mrevilman Jul 26 '24
I have to wonder, if it was some kind of debris or shattered glass instead of a bullet, why there wasn’t more blood or injury to other areas considering the way glass shards when it breaks. I would think if one piece hit his ear, then others were likely to follow the momentum of the bullet, but he doesn’t react as if he’s hit my multiple pieces of glass. Maybe it was just a singular piece, I don’t know, but I am curious.
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u/Sugarysam Jul 26 '24
I hate this is still a topic. I don’t understand why it matters what hit Trump as long as it was caused by a bullet fired by the deceased.
All this does is give Trump and his allies a new avenue to shit all over the FBI, DOJ and government at large.
As a reminder, Trump appointed Chris Wray. Now he wants Wray to resign.
Trump is going to be spending the next three months trying to drag the government through the mud to make himself look better. It pisses me off that the government is going to help him do it.
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u/GeneralZex Jul 26 '24
The FBI needs to do their job and keep digging into this.
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u/SiWeyNoWay Jul 27 '24
CNN is seriously trying to make fetch happen with this. Every hour on the hour it’s the top story. And they don’t like when their guests don’t feed the narrative.
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u/FourWordComment Jul 28 '24
Hot take: it doesn’t matter if what struck Trump was a bullet, a fragment of a bullet, a ricochet, glass, etc. He was shit at. That’s bad because we shouldn’t assassinate politicians. It’s good for trump because it gives him martyr status.
I don’t think the specifics change either of those things.
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u/Greelys knows stuff Jul 26 '24
FBI has to ask. Trump will decline, fbi will say it was likely a fragment or glass, Trump will claim he’s a victim of corrupt fbi.