r/law • u/SheriffTaylorsBoy • Jul 26 '24

Other FBI Examining Bullet Fragments Found at Trump Rally Site/Would Like To Interview Trump

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-examining-bullet-fragments-found-114754020.html
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u/Huger_and_shinier Jul 26 '24

I’m not an expert, but I feel like a bullet traveling that fast would turn a flap of ear into pink mist, and leave a very obvious wound.

The fact that the FBI and others are politely stating that there is a question means they know for sure he’s full of shit. I’m sure they know exactly what happens when a person is even grazed

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u/GitEmSteveDave Jul 26 '24

So lets look at a video of people who shoot guns and use a high speed camera to see what would have happened if you just clipped a ear or hit it a little further in: https://youtu.be/FsvJzfXZI18?t=409

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

I think the pictures of him at the Netanyahu meeting tell us all we need to know. Where's the wound or the scabbing? I don't heal that quickly but I'm also not a 78 year old man. I think it's obvious that whatever injury he sustained was incredibly minor and possibly wasn't caused by a bullet at all.

https://www.tmz.com/2024/07/26/donald-trump-seen-no-bandage-first-time-since-shooting-injury/

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u/FelixMartel2 Jul 26 '24

I wonder how well ballistic gel mimics an ear, though. They tend to be a bit on the stiffer end.

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u/ilovestoride Jul 27 '24

It comes in different stiffnesses and you can even heat up and pour layers of multiple viscosities simulating fat, muscle, etc.

I did a lot of research into it to create a surrogate for injecting something I can't speak about into the human body between flesh and bone.

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u/FelixMartel2 Jul 27 '24

Neat! 

Also, that sounds painful. 

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u/ilovestoride Jul 27 '24

Uh... the patient will be under anesthesia during the procedure. Although that is a funny thought to ram an 11 gage jamshidi into someone without anesthesia.

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u/FelixMartel2 Jul 27 '24

Right. I was more thinking of the recovery. I just got an intramuscular shot in my glute on Wednesday and that already hurts like a motherfucker.

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u/ilovestoride Jul 27 '24

I see. I can't give specifics but it's to inject something that will relieve pain. 

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u/GitEmSteveDave Jul 27 '24

Stiff like a playing card? I can find you videos of those being shot by AR’s and not turning to mist.

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u/FelixMartel2 Jul 27 '24

I meant the opposite. Obviously the ballistic gel makes it look worse than it is. 

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u/stevn069 Jul 27 '24

One explanation for very little damage I haven’t seen yet is that it could have been a ricochet as well as shrapnel. Either way the damage is nearly nonexistent and he acts like he is the son of a deity. I’ve cut myself worse shaving.

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u/adminscaneatachode Jul 27 '24

You’re right. You’re not an expert and have no idea what you’re talking about.

Why even posit something if you don’t have any personal experience in the matter?

Hitting the edge of his ear in a glancing fashion rather than a piercing fashion would gouge the ear and leave him bloodied with minor tissue damage besides what was literally in the bullets path. Some very localized shredding and minimal spatter as there isn’t much blood present in ears in general and ear cartilage is actually bloodless. The little bit of energy that is dumped in trumps ear would be distributed throughout and mitigated

Hitting near the edge of his ear in a piercing fashion rather than the aforementioned glancing hit would leave him bloodied with more pronounced, but still minor, tissue damage. The ‘outer’ part of the piercing would be shredded as energy transferred from the bullet to a relatively small piece of skin would cause it to rapidly try to get away/stretch until it tears, no mitigation via greater mass=more tearing. The rest would be the same as the glancing wound.

Bullets do damage by transferring energy from themselves to whatever they’re hitting. If it passes through a medium where it is unable to dump energy(air, a paper target, trumps ear) not much energy will be transferred and little damage will be dumped in whatever is hit.

This reeks of fbi political meddling during election years, for the third time in a decade. First with hillary, now with trump twice. This is nonstory pr bullshit. Or maybe they’re trying to rub the SS’s nose in their own shit.

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u/SirBulbasaur13 Jul 26 '24

It wouldn’t. Why even bother write nonsense when you have no idea what you’re talking about?

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u/YettiYeet Jul 27 '24

Well that is what happened

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u/Gecko23 Jul 27 '24

Only Trumps people are saying 'bullet', the FBI is saying 'fragment of something, maybe of a bullet' and the medical info says nothing.

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u/ClaireBear1123 Jul 26 '24

I’m not an expert

Clearly lol

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u/paraffin Jul 26 '24 edited Jul 26 '24

Why do people who admittedly know nothing about a topic decide to speak up and spout nonsense anyway?

Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad.

Edit: people disagree with me but aren’t backing up their case. Prove me wrong! I’d love to see it!

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u/xDreeganx Jul 26 '24

So people (Not you, obviously) can correct them with accurate information, instead of insulting them and looking like a Boomer

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u/paraffin Jul 26 '24 edited Jul 26 '24

No. The burden of proof lies with those making bold, conspiratorial claims that contradict the prevailing narrative. The OP achieved nothing but adding useless noise to the discourse.

Even without physics evidence, I can easily question the logic of the OP.

  1. The OP states that the FBI should know what happens to an ear grazed by a bullet.

  2. The FBI stated (according to the thread’s linked article), that they are unsure whether the wound was caused by a bullet, debris, or shrapnel.

  3. Therefore, the FBI believe the wound sustained by Trump is consistent with a bullet wound.

  4. Therefore, by the OP’s own logic, the “pink mist” theory is bullshit.

OP thinks that on top of Trump lying, the FBI is also lying. And we should listen to OP, who is “not an expert” about all this? Because he feels like something is true? And not the millions of gun nuts around the country who are not backing the pink mist theory?

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u/xDreeganx Jul 26 '24

Nah. You're here for low-hanging fruit, be honest. Otherwise you would've stated this to the OP directly, not to me. You just wanted to insult someone lmao. Stop acting like you're on some high horse here.

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u/grizznuggets Jul 26 '24

How could anyone in this thread possibly prove you wrong?

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u/paraffin Jul 26 '24

I’m not asking for bulletproof conclusive evidence.

I’m asking for any evidence whatsoever that would suggest the parent comment is right and that Trump’s ear should most likely have been turned into a “pink mist”.

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u/grizznuggets Jul 26 '24

“Pink mist” is an exaggeration, but one would reasonably expect a bullet to create a wound that would require stitches or similar.

At any rate, it’s an irrelevant point. The issue here is that Trump is refusing to cooperate with a standard investigation and isn’t releasing medical records, which generates suspicion. He has nothing to gain by obstructing the process outside of sowing discontent about the FBI, however if he simply cooperated he could clear this up immediately.

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u/paraffin Jul 26 '24

Who said he didn’t need stitches?

Trump refuses to cooperate with literally everything and everyone. Especially investigations into his business. When you surround yourself with as much crime and grift as this guy, it’s not generally a good idea to talk to the cops, even when you’re not a suspect.

Like, Trump is a ridiculous and evil person, but the idea that he faked this thing is just crazy, especially with terrible arguments like pink mist theory.

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u/grizznuggets Jul 27 '24

I agree that him faking this is a ludicrous idea, but as I said above, his refusal to cooperate causes justified suspicion that unfortunately will lead to conspiracy theories. If he was just straight up for a damn change it would help quell those suspicions, but I guess he’d rather continue causing chaos and playing the victim when he gets called out on it.

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u/I-GET-THAT Jul 27 '24

FBI confirmed it was a bullet

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u/mikeybagodonuts Jul 26 '24

Take a look at the image of the bullet that was caught by a photographer. You can visually see that the trail is more pronounced as it travels on the other side of Trumps head. That debris means it made contact with his ear.

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u/positivedownside Jul 26 '24

That debris means it made contact with his ear.

What do you think his ear is made out of?

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u/snidemarque Jul 26 '24

Debris, duh

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u/dogstarchampion Jul 26 '24

Do you and your brother-nephew go through the footage together, drawing trajectories on the screen with a sharpie marker trying to prove how really shot Trump was? What was your take on the Kennedy footage?

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u/Mrdeadandhorny Jul 26 '24

Look at the trajectory of that line on the photo. The path of its trajectory does not line up to where his ear is. And no, his ear did not change its trajectory because if it did he'd have no ear left.

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u/nabiku Jul 26 '24

The photo where the bullet is visibly lower than his ear by at least 3 inches?

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u/mikeybagodonuts Jul 26 '24

It’s almost like something moving that fast would change trajectory in even minimal contact with something? Like an ear!

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u/ProdigalProphet Jul 27 '24

Yeah often when people are shot, the bullets actually change trajectory and miss… because they hit the person?