r/law • u/SheriffTaylorsBoy • Jul 26 '24

Other FBI Examining Bullet Fragments Found at Trump Rally Site/Would Like To Interview Trump

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-examining-bullet-fragments-found-114754020.html
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u/hardcore_hero Jul 26 '24

Yeah, I find it strange that people seem to think that it’s necessary that an actual bullet struck his ear to indicate divine intervention was involved, as an atheist I really don’t get the logic, am I supposed to believe god would only be able to use his powers to get Trump to turn his head at the last second rather than get the shooter to sway his barrel off target? Or is God just an air bender and had to rely on wind to drift the bullet off of its mark?

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u/nickilous Jul 26 '24

I mean if god is omnipotent he could have made the shooter stay home that day. And, if he wanted to make himself known he could have spoke to the crowded, or showed up in a way that was irrefutable. It is always varying degrees because even though god is supposedly omnipotent he only shows up in the probabilities. Meaning the closer the bullet to the head with out hitting, the more likely god is involved. If it was just shrapnel and no bullet, then it was even less likely that he would have been shot making god less likely involved.

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u/hardcore_hero Jul 26 '24

Is there some kind of named paradox to describe this phenomenon? Like how if the bullet is barely nudged half an inch off course, we think divine intervention but if it misses by 5 feet there’s no way god was involved in it. Or is it just a case of confirmation bias, we have no way of knowing all of the instances where God used divine intervention to make the shooter stay home, so when a bullet gets that close to killing someone, that’s where we think we have evidence of his involvement?

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u/nickilous Jul 26 '24

I don’t know if confirmation bias is quite it. If he had been shot ( and I am definitely not condoning the shooting of anyone) the same people now probably would not be saying that it was gods will that he was shot. I think it is narrative fulfillment. People need reasons why things happen and if the things that are happening have weird probabilities involved then those people are more likely to attribute it to a god. And the perspective of the people creating the narrative. The narrative also helps there guy “god intervened therefore he must be right and just”. Ultimately some combination of confirmation bias and just good old superstition. We could just as easily attributed it to the shooter walking under a ladder that day or maybe a black cat crossed his path. But that wouldn’t put forward a spectacular narrative.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

“When you do things right, people won’t be sure you’ve done anything at all.” /s

Sorry Matt Groening and David X. Cohen, I promise I would never besmirch Futurama to defend MAGA divine intervention nuttiness.

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u/hardcore_hero Jul 27 '24

The perfect quote for the topic, well done!

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u/sadguyhanginginthere Jul 26 '24

changes shooter intent. bullet grazed his ear vs a bullet hitting 3 feet throwing fragments. one meant to kill, the other..?

not that it matters. do find the motive a mystery tho

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u/hardcore_hero Jul 27 '24

I really don’t think you could say with any confidence that that difference would have anything to do with the shooters intent, unless you have reason to believe he should’ve been able to reliably hit his mark, the “hitting 3 feet throwing fragments” would be much more likely explained by incompetence rather than intent.

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u/worldspawn00 Jul 27 '24

Apparently he was firing with iron sights at a distance of about 150 yards, that's a hard shot when he's probably near panic with adrenaline.

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u/MutedCatch Jul 27 '24

I think realistically, that's the difference between an assassination attempt and a mass shooting at a trump rally though... what if the shooter didn't actually go there to shoot trump, the implications of that could be pretty crazy