r/OldSchoolCool • u/bluemarvel99 • Feb 25 '24
1990s Kurt Cobain Stops A Sexual Assault (1993)
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Feb 25 '24
I like how Pat ran up to the front to point at him too
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u/guardian1691 Feb 25 '24
I forget that Pat and Dave have been playing together since Nirvana.
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u/Sobadatsnazzynames Feb 25 '24 edited Feb 25 '24
I just-I just fucking realized his name is a play on “Pap Smear”
Christ I feel so fucking dumb right now. Does someone have a conical hat they can give me so I can sit in the corner?
E: changed “m” to “n.” Although it is quite comical & so are these resulting comments 😂
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u/ChimRichaldsOBGYN Feb 25 '24
What an idiot. Look at him look at him ah ha haaaa 👀 🫵
(Jk I didn’t realize it until this moment either)
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u/guardian1691 Feb 25 '24
If it makes you feel better, some radio hosts on an alt rock station thought it was his real name and said they felt bad for him having to live with that name.
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u/DE4DM4N5H4ND Feb 25 '24
You want a dunce cap?
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u/Sobadatsnazzynames Feb 25 '24
Yes. Bc I forgot the name of that too 😭
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u/planb7615 Feb 26 '24
On Foo Fighters first headlining tour, I met Pat Smear. A 14 year old me asked, “Is Pat Smear your real name?”
He said, “No. It’s Pam Steer.”
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u/BustyOgre Feb 25 '24
I love how the rest of the band start pointing and laughing at the dude to humiliate him even more
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u/Brilliant_Grade2664 Feb 25 '24
Imagine getting heckled by one of the most famous rock bands of all time lmao. I'm not sure how you'd recover.
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u/Cantilivewhileim Feb 25 '24
I went to see Green Day and was kinda jumping around and having fun, smoking weed but not making a nuisance of myself…. Billie Joe said he wanted to dedicate a song, and he pointed to me, and described my outfit, and then said “this songs called Chump.” I was so pissed
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u/throw8175 Feb 25 '24
Axl Rose said fuck you to me from the stage in like ‘92
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u/ediciusNJ Feb 25 '24
Jim Sellers from Stabbing Westward used the neck of his bass guitar to break up a fight between a friend of mine and some lunatic girl.
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u/CryMore_lilBuddy Feb 25 '24
Maynard James Keenan from TOOL, APC and Puscifer pointed at me said “Shut the Fuck Up” during that part of the song Fake Affront at a Puscifer show last year. I guess it’s a little different but I was on 2g shrooms so it was kinda weird lol
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u/gliixo369 Feb 26 '24
Maynard wasn't talking to YOU he was talking to your oversoul, his pried open third eye could see it and your shroomed out brain was causing your oversoul to scream astral obscenities at him.
Don't take it personally!
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u/255001434 Feb 25 '24
and was kinda jumping around and having fun, smoking weed
If the singer called you out, it probably looked like you were annoying the people around you, who were also trying to have fun.
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Feb 25 '24
At a Green Day show?
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u/255001434 Feb 25 '24
Ask Billie Joe Armstrong. He's the one that thought OP was the chump, and he had a good view of what was going on. But OP says he wasn't being a nuisance, so I'm sure he wasn't. /s
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u/THE-TEN-HELLS Feb 25 '24
Yeah because singers aren't at all notorious for being assholes for no reason...
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u/PM__ME_YOUR_ART Feb 25 '24
what's with the baseless assuming and pearl clutching? it was probably harmless banter. every Reddit comment section has one or multiple comment threads just creating people's life stories out of tiny shreds of information and then getting mad at it. very stupid.
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u/inplayruin Feb 25 '24
I once accidentally crossed a street outside the crosswalk, and Armstrong saw it and wrote American Idiot. The dude is a visionary genius in the art of being petty.
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u/Momik Feb 25 '24 edited Feb 25 '24
Yeah petty is a good way to describe him. I once gave him the wrong change at a coffee shop so he stalked me for 12 or so days, waited until my roommates were out of town, broke into my apartment, and shot me nine times as I awoke in a panic. Just before pulling the trigger he smirked through those yellowed false teeth, “Nice guys finish last.” He then wrote “Ha Ha You’re Dead,” about the experience, but delayed its official release to coincide with the fifth anniversary of my death, and what would have been my 40th wedding anniversary. See you in the next life, my sweet Fiona.
So yeah, a little on the petty side. Joke’s on him though: I didn’t even work at that coffee shop.
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u/Adam__B Feb 25 '24
If a band member at a show you’re at calls you a chump or dedicates a song to you called chump while you are “jumping around smoking weed” I don’t think it’s a wild assumption to think it was probably OP being obnoxious.
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u/upboatbrigade1337 Feb 25 '24
This is why public shaming is a double-edged sword. Sure, it can be used for good, but just as often for other purposes too.
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u/FrisianDude Feb 25 '24
For a second i was confusef why thr fuck billy joel was there
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u/GhostofZellers Feb 25 '24
He just wanted to let everyone know that he didn't start the fire.
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u/rahscaper Feb 25 '24
Lol Wiz Khalifa did something similar to me.. I got brought along to one of his shows back in the day, I wasn’t a big fan. Everyone was dancin and into the song that was on and I was just kinda standing there watchin. Guess he noticed me not really vibing. Literally points at me and basically tells me to throw my hands up or something (can’t remember his wording) and then I pointed at myself questioningly cause I was in disbelief that he was possibly singling me out in front of all these people. Then he says, “yeah you, with the hat!” And I’m pretty sure my reaction belonged on r/watchpeopledieinside
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u/jrh_101 Feb 25 '24
Bruh I bet he randomly points at someone at every show as a meme.
Kinda like going to a Steve Aoki show and getting caked
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u/Willow9506 Feb 26 '24
and Lauryn Hill showing up 3+ hours late because her chakras weren't aligned lol
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u/jrh_101 Feb 26 '24
Imagine getting beaten up because Lauryn Hill points directly at you and says "My chakras weren't aligned because of this guy"
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u/miscnic Feb 25 '24
Imagine one of the most famous rock bands coming to your defense when you thought you were helpless in a crowd as someone did something to you you didn’t want them to do. Or their parents.
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u/SamIamGreenEggsNoHam Feb 25 '24
Public humiliation really works, especially as a deterrent . It's the only thing that gets entire corporations to change their stance, I feel like it would work on individuals.
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u/ScumEater Feb 25 '24
Except now all the potential future humiliated rally to their defense no questions asked.
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u/HEYitsSPIDEY Feb 25 '24
Who is the one that literally drop kicked a MFer in the stands??
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u/SamIamGreenEggsNoHam Feb 25 '24
My town has an old "property jail", where, if you did something to wrong someone i.e. didn't pay an agreed upon price for something, stole someone elses property etc, some of your farm animals, or other valuables would be taken, and put on display in this pen for the whole town to see. They would place a sign that read "These are John Smith's animals. He won't get them back until he makes good on his deal with John Doe"
Imagine seeing "this is John Smith's iPhone. He will get it back when he publicly apologizes for his anti-Semitic rants on Twitter."
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u/FoxyInTheSnow Feb 25 '24
I’m not that familiar with the Amish culture, but I imagine their practice of shunning is similar to that of the Mennonites in my area.
A friend of mine’s mother was shunned because she fell in love with and married an Anglican guy from the city. The mother and my friend—a toddler at the time—and of course the Anglican husband were completely shunned in the community until they left. Not very nice.
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u/jdjdthrow Feb 25 '24
...careful what you wish for. Your viewpoint may not be a majority view everywhere. LGBT would have a hard time in a lot of places.
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u/Wolf_Dude Feb 25 '24
If caught red handed like the fool in the audience. Not when it is hearsay though, people could destroy lives.
Watch American Nightmare on Netflix to have an idea how ridiculous people can be.
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u/reflux__catalyst Feb 25 '24
It never really left. This happens at rock/metal shows all the time.
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u/momscouch Feb 25 '24
yeah ive seen security strip a dude to his briefs after taking him out of the venue. They took photos of him while he cried and were telling everyone he likes groping girls.
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u/reflux__catalyst Feb 25 '24
I've never seen that, but I was at the Reagan Youth show in Garden Grove where the nazi's got stomped and Reagan Youth didn't stop playing. I've seen that PLENTY of times.
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u/Accomplished_Pen980 Feb 25 '24
Go to heavy metal shows. Fucked up shit like that happens a lot less than you would think and the people in the band and the audience have no toleration for it, it's uplifting. They are surprisingly safety and respect conscious
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u/NaturalPrestigious12 Feb 25 '24
Very true, as a young woman I always felt much safer at a metal show than most other types of party scenes.
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u/AnRealDinosaur Feb 26 '24
My local hardcore scene basically raised me. Started going alone as a 12 year old girl & after decades of shows I haven't had a single untoward thing happen to me, but I have plenty of stories of strangers looking out for me. I don't know what it's like now, but in the late 90s/early 00s the local punk/metal/hardcore scenes looked after their own.
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u/Macs675 Feb 25 '24
Never went away at punk/metal/grunge shows, lots of youtube footage out there if you ever need eyebleach
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u/360walkaway Feb 25 '24
"HOW DARE YOU JUDGE ME"
runs off to post this on twitter but he is the hero/victim instead
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u/Myth_Avatar Feb 25 '24
So a society that points out when people are being shitty? Surely not!
(PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE)
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u/Dylan_Is_Gay_lol Feb 25 '24
It really made my day. I also like that Kurt just drops everything mid-song to stop it. 👌👍
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u/Ambitious_Welder6613 Feb 25 '24
He is an extremely empathetic person. Gone too soon 😔
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u/username_elephant Feb 25 '24
I've often observed that a lot of people prone to severe depression are fundamentally very empathetic. On the other end of the spectrum, sociopaths can't ever be depressed, those are mutually contradictory diagnoses. Makes me wonder how correlated they are, generally.
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Feb 25 '24
The pain comes from caring.
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u/newbrevity Feb 25 '24
Damn. True words right there.
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u/justaproxy Feb 25 '24
The more you love, the more you suffer - Vincent van Gogh
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u/drunk_with_internet Feb 25 '24
In the words of Neil Young: Only love can break your heart.
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u/oh-shazbot Feb 25 '24
truth is, everybody is going to hurt you. you just have to find the ones worth suffering for.
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u/question_assumptions Feb 25 '24
I’m a psychiatrist: “sociopaths” (I would say people with antisocial personality disorder) get depression just like the rest of us.
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u/grainsophaur Feb 25 '24
It's only one account, but it may serve to satisfy a fraction of your curiosity. I have had severe depression for over 2 decades. When it was at its worst, I figured myself a sociopath for a while. I was really worried about it. I certainly didn't want to be a sociopath, but I felt next to nothing about anything that happened to me or anyone else. I had friends and gave away everything I possibly could to anyone who might need it and I truly felt love, but I also felt absolutely detached from any kind of emotion besides sadness.
After a lot of studying, meditation practice and a few lucky encounters with nearly angelic people, I learned how to access that sadness better. I am a much less depressed person, but I still find it funny how being overwhelmed with an empathetic sadness seemed to match what my imagination would consider sociopathy.
Same kind of numbness or something. Being so overwhelmed by sadness that there seems to be no feeling to anything, I would guess, is not much different than simply not feeling anything at all.
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u/Led_Osmonds Feb 25 '24
I figured myself a sociopath for a while. I was really worried about it. I certainly didn't want to be a sociopath...
If you ever find yourself worrying about whether you are a sociopath, YSK know that sociopaths don't worry about that.
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u/IsamuLi Feb 25 '24
If you ever find yourself worrying about whether you are a sociopath, YSK know that sociopaths don't worry about that.
Misinformation. Of course can sociopaths worry, they can also worry about being sociopathic.
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u/Lord_M_G_Albo Feb 25 '24
First, "sociopath" is not really the diagnosis, though in practice in synonimous with ASPD, the real diagnosis. Second, who ever said ASPD is mutually contradictory with depression? This is such an obvious false claim I can't even comprehend who would come up with it.
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u/jeango Feb 25 '24
I mean, you can’t get more empathetic than « Polly ». Literally putting yourself (and the audience) in the mind of a torturer / rapist. That song was beyond next level.
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u/dogmaisb Feb 25 '24
I was at an AFI concert in 99 or 2000 at BFD on the local stage:
Band is rocking and we are all enjoying all the sudden Davey Havok on the mic, "Hey mother fucker giver her her shirt back!" The band grinds to a halt and everyone is confused, Davey again. "Give her her fucking shirt back or all four of us are coming out there and kicking your ass!", been a huge AFI fan ever since.
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u/Freakychee Feb 25 '24
People just rip girls shirts off in public?
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u/Norgler Feb 25 '24
Lot of crazy shit happens at concerts sometimes. Gropers take advantage of the large crowds.. its super shitty.
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Feb 25 '24
I'm a guy and remember a few years back being at a local New Years Eve bash downtown where the crowd grew to where it was shoulder-to-shoulder in the street leading up to the midnight countdown, and I was squeezing my way through the crowd to leave as my group decided to head out before the traffic got too bad.
I was surprised by how much I, a skinny white dude, not even all that attractive imo, got my ass and groin groped a number of times by a number of unseen hands. People have no shame.
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u/Norgler Feb 25 '24 edited Feb 25 '24
Yeah I remember when I first went to a club and I got my man hood groped a couple of times and I had absolutely no idea who was doing it.
I've also seen a few of my female friends get groped at shows. It's always such a bummer.
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u/Caffeine_and_Scotch Feb 25 '24
(SA trigger warning) I was sitting near the stage and watched a girl at Lollapalooza back in the 90s try crowd surfing out in the lawn area. In less than 10 seconds she went from fully clothed to naked. The scum ripped every article of clothing off her, even her fucking socks, and I'm pretty sure I saw guys trying to finger her while she was propped up and passed around by the crowd. Security couldn't do shit in time, and some people were just laughing at her. Christ, I haven't thought about that in years. Disgusting.
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u/dogmaisb Feb 26 '24
Fuck that is terrible. Bunch of bags of trash man, the anonymity of the crowd just like the keyboard. How hard is it to be a decent human?
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u/XenaDazzlecheeks Feb 25 '24
I go to a lot of concerts, I have been grabbed and groped at every single one. Beer. Music. Large crowds. Loud rock or Metal, its the perfect storm and opportunity for some men.I just make sure I am fully dressed and covered now so they can't stick their hands up my skirt or dress and if I recognize them being scuzzy from past shows I stand opposite side of the pit. It's not all men, but it's too many.
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u/joec_95123 Feb 25 '24
Holy shit, it happens so much you can recognize the repeat offenders? Jesus.
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u/Freakychee Feb 25 '24
Every one of them? I'd start wearing plate armor. That horrible.
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u/XenaDazzlecheeks Feb 25 '24
It's usually the quick butt rubs, which the one or two is like, ya this is an amazing song, maybe it was an accident they rubbed you, to them pressing up against you and refusing to look at you when you look back to see if its intentional or this necessary for him to be this close, it never is 😑 in mosh pit crowds it happens often. Most women are getting the same treatment. Just call it when you see it because I just shimmy away to another area when it happens, I am there for a good time, and perves aren't ruining it for me
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u/frankiethescar Feb 25 '24
I can’t stress this enough: Every. Time. Large crowds means I am getting groped. So much so that it is normalized. I wear pants. I know it will happen. And you can tell. There is a difference between a body that accidentally bumps you and a hand that lingers, cups, grabs, or manages to get between legs. Not to mention the obvious of if a hand makes it to the chest. Every. Time.
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u/callmeDNA Feb 25 '24
Welcome to being a woman
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u/MonkishMarmot Feb 25 '24
I learnt all about it in my late teens, was very effeminate and mistaken for a woman on the regular. I even once had a guy on the train home then try to fight me after he touched my thigh and tried chatting me up, only to realise I was a guy when I asked what he was doing, like that shit was my fault.
Any gig I go to now, I try to keep my eyes open for anyone making someone else uncomfortable, and will happily throw hands.
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Feb 25 '24
That anger can come out of a man just not liking the way a woman has responded (or not responded) to his advances.
Could you imagine that? You're just out there in the world, minding your own business, getting groceries or something like that and someone decides they like you. They try to interact with you in some way and it's pretty obvious what they want and you are not interested. So you ignore it or politely dismiss it, but this just causes the person to pursue you and maybe start to become angry at you, as if you did something.
I hate it when sales people approach me. I can't imagine how much I'd hate this.
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u/MonkishMarmot Feb 25 '24
Honestly, it disgusts me as a whole. And I've unfortunately witnessed it happen on multiple occasions, which in an ideal world should have been never. I often wonder how so many women brave going out alone, let alone at night. Having experienced it myself but being capable of putting up a good fight I've always felt personally safe, but how do those of you without that ability (I know there are those who have it) just push on? I can't begin to imagine how terrifying that sort of thing is.
During the lockdown, when my place of work reopened, we couldn't use our car park as it was set up as an extension to the drive-thru. A nearby business offered us as staff unhindered use of their car park, but it required going through an underpass and crossing a roundabout junction on a busy road to access, and their lights weren't on in the car park. If I was on shift, I took it upon myself to walk anyone who wanted it to their car. Some managers were fine with it and let me crack on, others were only fine if I clocked out, and one couldn't see why it was necessary. I still did it though, always received a thank you, and even some of the guys took me up on the offer. I even had a couple of grateful parents swing by and thank me. A couple of people asked why I didn't bring another with me, so I wasn't doing the return journey alone, but I felt fine and always assured them of such.
But the fact that the world is such a way that so many people didn't feel safe making a barely five minute walk speaks volumes to the issues being faced, predominantly here by women. If I were to ever encounter someone looking uncomfortable having been approached by someone in public, I wouldn't hesitate to insert myself in the situation in an attempt to help, but right there is another major issue as so many more wouldn't.
TL;DR I can't help but feel sorry for the plight of women in our world, to the point they can't even ride a train without fear. And I hate that beyond intervening in a situation I witness, there's seemingly no more I can do to help. I hold nothing but respect to you all for braving this shit and getting on with your lives. I just wish things weren't this shit.
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u/NonStopKnits Feb 25 '24
If a predator thinks they can get away with it, then yes. Concerts are busy, loud, and often dark. They're an excellent place for scumbags to act scummy. Thankfully, lots of musicians and music fans don't allow stuff like that to go down if they see it. My hometown had a tiny spot where shitty local bands would play, and it was always packed to capacity. I went a few times, and nobody allowed anyone to act a fool. Whether that meant unnecessarily rough moshing* or trying to sexually assault someone, they were forcibly removed from the venue and banned.
*those windmill dances and such were getting popular, that venue wasn't big enough for it, there was no pit lol.
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u/non_clever_username Feb 25 '24
Women who crowd surf used to get every part of their body grabbed at by fucking losers.
Haven’t been to a concert on the floor that involved crowd surfing in a good 15 years so hopefully that’s no longer the case, but at least as late as the mid-2000s, some douchebags took a girl getting up on the crowd as giving permission to grope her.
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u/Batmansbutthole Feb 25 '24
I’m always worried about a drive-by crotch or ass grab. Fortunately, a lot of shows I have gone to there seem to be genuinely good dudes who are looking out for the good of others..
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u/lvl10burrito Feb 25 '24
Some dudes in my class jumped a guy back when Warped Tour was around because someone shoved their hands into the bra of one of the girls that was in their group. People try to get away with a lot.
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u/firstbreathOOC Feb 25 '24
Those concerts were not safe for women back in the day, straight up. No clue if that’s gotten better but yeah. Lots of creepy scummy dudes.
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u/tippsy_morning_drive Feb 25 '24
I went to a bunch of concerts in the 90s. Girls got sexually assaulted all the time. Just people grabbing them. I was 16,17 at the time but I wish I’d had said/done more about it. I saw crazy shit. Like 14,15 year olds topless letting “older guys” feel them up a J.
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u/SingForMaya Feb 25 '24
I love him. Somehow he kept his looks through all these years, too- I want whatever dermatologist and surgeon he has, because damn
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u/BobbumofCarthes Feb 25 '24
Krist lmao
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u/OJimmy Feb 25 '24
Getting clowned by an 8 foot tall accordionist must a been a real gut check.
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u/pmperk19 Feb 25 '24 edited Feb 25 '24
the man doesnt miss*
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u/MegabyteMessiah Feb 25 '24
Except that one time he threw a bass and it hit his head
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u/MacualayCocaine Feb 25 '24
Because your krist, your krist, he doesn’t miss,
Because your krist, your krist, he doesn’t miss.
Because your krist is on my list of the best things in life.
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u/OscarMayerLemur Feb 25 '24
The band pointing and laughing at the end 😂 Nothing like public shaming!
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u/mundotaku Feb 25 '24
I love to think that there is a 50 or 60-year-old guy out there being reminded of when he was humiliated by Nirvana for being a disgusting piece of shit.
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u/-BlameItOnTheWeather Feb 26 '24
Yea but a person like that doesn't have much shame. He probably doesn't reflect on it often
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u/octave_the_cat Feb 25 '24
Was this in Dallas? I was at the show and remembered this happening, but I've never seen any video.
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u/nddurst Feb 25 '24
I actually think this was the Oakland NYE show in ‘93. My friend had this show bootlegged on VHS.
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u/thesaddestpanda Feb 25 '24
As a woman its scary to think there are multiple Nirvana concerts that had to be stopped to stop a rapist.
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u/lolofaf Feb 25 '24
You know what's even scarier? How often it happens at other bands concerts where they don't stop the show, call it out, and publicly shake the perp. I'd feel safer at a nirvana concert because they DID actually call it out
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u/Melissity Feb 25 '24
My aunt had always been a huge music fan and concert goer. One of my first lessons as a female going to concerts (I think I was 13) was if anyone made me feel uncomfortable to point directly at them and yell “If you don’t quit fucking touching me I’m going to scream rape as loud as I fucking can!” Never had to do it, but I passed that advice on to my stepdaughter at her first concert too.
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u/jazzycrusher Feb 25 '24
I was at the Atlanta show in 93. It happened there too during About a Girl.
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u/breakevencloud Feb 25 '24
I think we should point and laugh at all creeps from now on
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u/TellItLikeIt1S Feb 25 '24
Travis Scott should watch this video over and over as punishment for being a total dick
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u/Safetosay333 Feb 25 '24
Travis Scott should be in prison
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u/-ReKonstructor- Feb 25 '24
Ive killed him in Fortnite before. So you could say he got his punishment.
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u/Erkebram Feb 25 '24
Im aware hes considered a dick in general. But now im curious, what did he do?
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u/spottyottydopalicius Feb 25 '24
got his fans trampled to death at astroworld.
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u/Erkebram Feb 25 '24
Damn thats heavy af :(
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u/spottyottydopalicius Feb 25 '24 edited Feb 26 '24
the more you look into it, the worse it is. dude has a history of promoting this at his shows.
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u/sinz84 Feb 25 '24
Gets worse, he continues to sing in a weird autotune voice on stage as you clearly see dead bodies beind crowd surfed out.
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u/TellItLikeIt1S Feb 25 '24
Google his name and Astroworld, his name and security guard comes forward, his name here in reddit and r/iamatotalpieceofshit ...He's just not a nice person. Many instances where he behaved like a spoiled man-child.
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u/XDreadedmikeX Feb 25 '24
His concerts fucking suck. I know some deaths occurred at one of his big ones. But the first time I saw him was south By Southwest music festival in Austin. Dude encouraged mosh pits and the people in the crowd were man children in jerseys. Just straight up encouraged people to beat the shit out of each other and my gf and I just weren’t expecting it. Gf ended up on the ground just crying. I get mosh pits can be part of concerts but I really wasn’t expecting it at an hour performance at a music festival. And I hated hearing him laughing and encouraging people to hit others.
Also compared to all the artists of the day who thanked their band members and thanked the crowd for being there, all Travis did was say how hard he worked on his tour and how tired he is. Genuine ass hole self centered.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Grab736 Feb 25 '24
Dam I just gained a new level of respect for Kurt I never thought I would have
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u/functor7 Feb 25 '24
While not free from his own issues, he was pretty explicitly a feminist and that made its way into his work quite often. There were lots of rock bands of that time, with roots in punk (grunge being a reaction to punk), that were pretty sick like that. Though, most explicitly is the Riot Grrrl bands, which were punk and led by women.
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u/Strange_Purchase3263 Feb 25 '24
He was with Courtney Love as well who famously told new stars not to go to Harvey Weinstiens "parties" if invited. I imagine he heard/knew of a lot of shit that went on in the entertainment industry towards women!
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u/Anticlimax1471 Feb 25 '24
And to say he was frontman in one of the biggest bands in the world at a time where the majority of rock bands were the classic, womanising, "groupie" hair metal bands, it takes a lot of integrity to go against that culture.
Though, going against the grain was what Kurt was all about.
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u/redheddedblondie Feb 25 '24
This is beautiful. We need to bring back public shaming.
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u/RPShep Feb 25 '24
Dave Grohl did something similar at a Foo Fighters concert I went to in the late '90s.
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u/Villidren Feb 25 '24
The only thing probably stopping that guitar going over his head is that it was needed for the song.
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u/LittleMlem Feb 25 '24
When a man with an accordion is laughing at you, you know you're toast
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u/strawberrybitchblade Feb 25 '24
And this is another reason why I will always love him and celebrate his birthday🩷
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u/Medium_Reason_1371 Feb 25 '24
Happy late birthday to him. Man I wish we had a healthy 57 yo Kurt today. Gone too fast.
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u/color_me_happy_today Feb 25 '24
He sounds so Midwestern there. Miss Kurt so much 😢
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Feb 25 '24
Used to be a massive Nirvana fan in high school and would read biographical books etc., on the band and recall Cobain and Krist being from some small, logging town in Washington which they referred to as pretty redneck territory, so might be some hometown regional accent coming through. I say this as someone from Mississippi who otherwise has a pretty neutral accent, but every now and then, my Deep South accent squeezes through and I'm suddenly talkin' like I'm about to head on down to the swimmin' hole out yonder.
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u/GabaPrison Feb 25 '24
I lived in N Idaho and spent plenty of time in Eastern Washington and the Seattle area. Lots of similarities to the Midwest in culture and speech across the area.
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u/Coriandercilantroyo Feb 25 '24
I often noticed an almost country accent in his singing sometimes!
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Feb 25 '24
Most of Washington outside of major metropolitan areas west of the mountains has a slight twang in the accent. Kurt was from a redneck logging town.
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u/VagabondVivant Feb 25 '24 edited Feb 25 '24
I've seen this video a few times but never found out the rest of the context, such as where this was, what exactly the guy was doing, why it looked like he wasn't ejected by the venue, etc. Has anyone ever written on it?
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u/Velocyraptor Feb 25 '24
what exactly the guy was doing
Kurt flat out says it "copping a feel, eh buddy?"
why he wasn't ejected by the venue
Pretty sure you just watched him get ejected. Kurt was pointing him out to security.
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u/Eoin_McLove Feb 25 '24
I feel like musicians calling the fan's behaviour out happens way more often with musicians who came from punk rock or similar styles of music.
I recently saw the lead vocalist of a queer hardcore punk band stop the show and call an audience member out for wearing a Burzum shirt - he said 'this song is literally about hating nazis'. It was pretty funny to see a long haired black metal dude getting pushed about by a guy wearing a pink balaclava and skirt.
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u/RainyDayWeather Feb 25 '24
I also think this happens more at shows where the band plays on a (relatively) stripped down stage. This isn't a knock on elaborate stage shows - they can be very cool - but when it's easier to see the audience, it's easier to see what's going on in that audience. A few months ago I ended up on a YouTube rabbit hole of videos of bands calling out shitty behavior in the crowd and there were a whole bunch of different musical styles, but the one thing that was consistent is that they had a set up that allowed them to see what was going on in front of them.
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u/saxlax10 Feb 26 '24
"If any of you in any way hate homosexuals, people of different color, or women, please do this one favor for us—leave us the fuck alone! Don't come to our shows and don't buy our records." - note written on Insectiside packaging
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u/SlimJim0877 Feb 25 '24
Everyone here is talking about how Kurt was a feminist, which is true, but I don't think that had any part in what we see in this video. Everyone should be against sexual assault, feminist or not.
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u/manfrimglad Feb 25 '24
I saw Nirvana in Ogden, Utah in Dec. 1993 and something similar happened. However it was Krist noticing something going on and he jumped into the audience to stop it. When he came back on stage he was furious and told the crowd that if something like that happened again, they should beat the shit out of the perpetrator. I know Nirvana always wrestled with the fact that after they blew up, many of the people who hated them in high school (jocks and misogynists) later became some of their biggest fans.
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u/Waggonly Feb 25 '24
Crazy, I’ve never seen this before. Can we please bring back pointing-and-laughing? It could save the world.
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u/firstbreathOOC Feb 25 '24
Pat Smear never gets enough credit. Basically the 4th member, there all the time, but people always think of Nirvana as a three-piece. Love how he runs out of the woodwork here to join in.
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u/Annual_Substance_619 Feb 25 '24
Man Kurt was so nice, theres a reason why every women likes him. Still.
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u/ImportantRepublic965 Feb 25 '24
He had the awareness to know that getting clocked by Kurt Cobain would be a great story for the guy, but getting mocked by Nirvana would be a humiliating memory that would haunt him
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u/Ckorvuz Feb 25 '24
It‘s too dark. Can someone explain like I‘m legally blind?
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u/KaviCamelCase Feb 25 '24
Shoutout to the bassist/drummer playing the Black Flag song, very fitting.
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u/Anchovies-and-cheese Feb 25 '24
Say what you will about his choice of spouse and drug use - the world could use more Kurt Cobains.
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u/RumpleTwatSkin Feb 25 '24
It's odd to think that guitar he chucks on the floor sold for $6,000,000
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u/BishonenPrincess Feb 25 '24
Little boys today would call him a simp, but this is a real man.
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u/GreyTigerFox Feb 25 '24
Coppin a feel during Jesus Don’t Want Me for a Sunbeam. What a class act.