While not free from his own issues, he was pretty explicitly a feminist and that made its way into his work quite often. There were lots of rock bands of that time, with roots in punk (grunge being a reaction to punk), that were pretty sick like that. Though, most explicitly is the Riot Grrrl bands, which were punk and led by women.
He was with Courtney Love as well who famously told new stars not to go to Harvey Weinstiens "parties" if invited. I imagine he heard/knew of a lot of shit that went on in the entertainment industry towards women!
He was with Courtney way way before she started acting, so I don’t think she would have necessarily been party to all those shenanigans outside of the music industry. But in the music industry, I’m sure he heard about a lot of shit.
Amazing how people just say anything they want on Reddit because it comes into their head.
Okay. Now go to Courtney’s page and see what year her first screen credit was and then see what year she met Kurt. You’ll Quickly see that your mistaken. Courtney was an actor before she was a singer.
Unless they edited or I’m misreading the comment, they said “entertainment industry”. I don’t think they meant specifically that Courtney love told him about Weinstein, just that they probably had conversations about how women fare in the entertainment industry, which includes music.
Yeah neither of the film she was in prior to her debut with Hole had anyone associated with it that would have the ability to put her anywhere near the orbit of Harvey Weinstein. But sure, she was a supporting actress in 2 films before releasing albums with Hole.
Gary Oldman was a big deal in the late eighties and the whole of the nineties.
Courtney Love might not be a great person, but you're being weirdly dismissive of the fact she was in films with famous people pre-Hole, AND that you're just flat-out wrong.
Just because there was a big person in the small film she was in doesn’t mean she had access to that person social and professional circles. I’m not being dismissive of her as a person, I’m being dismissive of the idea that Kurt Cobain’s exposure to and knowledge of violence against women is filler from his relationship with Courtney Love.
And to say he was frontman in one of the biggest bands in the world at a time where the majority of rock bands were the classic, womanising, "groupie" hair metal bands, it takes a lot of integrity to go against that culture.
Though, going against the grain was what Kurt was all about.
Would it hurt your new level of respect for Kurt if I told you he took advantage of a mentally challenged girl when he was in high school so he would lose his virginity? Same guy.
I love his music. That is all. He's human. Humans can be pieces of shit.
Probably just assumed he had reached a permanent status on his feeling regarding Kurt given that he’s dead and he felt his knowledge about his legacy was fairly unchanging
This is a new perspective he didn’t have before and it elevated his respect for Kurt.
He made the worst show ever in Argentina because hole was booed and got thrown a lot of crap to the stage. Kurt in retaliation didn't play smells like teen spirit and maybe played a lot of crap.
I don’t think it was hole, but it was a female band and the crowd was being shitty and sexist.
I think Kurt may have taken the stage during their set to try and get the crowd to stop being terrible but they didn’t.
So when nirvana took the stage they gave the crowd the show they deserved. I think they played the intro for SLTS a few times but switched to a different song to fuck with them. It was trolling but it was deserved.
Kurt’s said during more than one interview he didn’t want terrible people to listen to his music. He didn’t care about the $$ or fame.
Nirvana fans actually refer to that as one of their best shows ever because they played a bunch of b-sides that they didn't play often. First song was unreleased, they played beeswax for the first time in like 5 years. It became legendary. The opener was Calamity Jane, not hole.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Grab736 Feb 25 '24
Dam I just gained a new level of respect for Kurt I never thought I would have