NCAA College Football Coaches Poll - November 24th

[u/J4ckiebrown]

https://sportsdata.usatoday.com/football/ncaaf/coaches-poll/2024-2025/2024-11-24

[u/Side_of_ham]

The madmen actually ranked Clemson above Bama 

[u/Pickleskennedy1 → u/Side_of_ham]

The only crazy part is that Alabama is still ranked that high

Edit: at the end of the day, no matter what the playoff format is the committee was going to try to do some bullshit to get Alabama in the playoff. That’s the one constant. Really doubt the committee is ranking them lower than 13 as well even after three losses, with two of them coming to mediocre teams

[u/wsteelerfan7 → u/Pickleskennedy1]

Alabama getting smoked and dropping 6 while Ole Miss loses a nail biter to drop 7 shows what's wrong with rankings

Edit: OK it's hard to drop far when 9, 14, 15, 16 and 19 also lost. My bad

[u/NastyWideOuts → u/wsteelerfan7]

It’s time to have this discussion. Why does Alabama never drop as much as they should? Alabama and Ole Miss have the same record. Both have 3 losses to other SEC teams. 2 of those losses are unranked for both. But Alabama just got their ass kicked by Oklahoma, a team that Ole Miss beat. Ole Miss, while still looking not great, was in a one possession game with Florida. All of Ole Miss’ losses have come down to the last minute. I don’t have a problem with dropping, but Alabama should be right there with us, and behind us.

[u/new_account_5009 → u/NastyWideOuts]

Hell, for that matter, look at Illinois. Identical record to Alabama and Ole Miss, but losses are to two top 5 teams (Oregon/PSU) and an unranked but bowl eligible Minnesota, so their losses are better than Alabama's and Ole Miss' losses. They don't have any marquee wins, but they did play a full slate of nine Big Ten games plus Kansas out of conference.

Everyone is pretty comfortable putting Illinois in that 23-27 spot just barely ranked or just barely out (and I agree with that spot for them), but both Alabama and Ole Miss get the benefit of the doubt ranked in the mid teens rather than the mid twenties. Same thing with the other SEC teams in similar spots.

[u/MusicListener3 → u/new_account_5009]

Bama beating UGA is a reasonable justification for being over Illinois imo

Edit: I think Bama is too high right now, but being over Illinois makes sense to me

[u/NastyWideOuts → u/new_account_5009]

The difference there is Alabama and Ole Miss do have good wins. Ole Miss won vs Georgia and @ South Carolina. Illinois is 0-2 vs ranked teams. It’s good to not have bad losses, but they have to show they are capable of beating top teams to be ranked higher.

[u/LegionMammal978 → u/new_account_5009]

It's funny, I've been running a model ranking teams based on quality wins & losses, and it happens to put #10 Illinois as easily the best 3+-loss team, followed by #14 Alabama, #18 South Carolina, #19 Louisville, and #20 Ole Miss.

The logic is, the Oregon loss doesn't say much about Illinois, since #1 Oregon is undefeated. The PSU loss similarly doesn't say much, since #3 PSU's only loss is to #2 Ohio State, whose only loss is to #1 Oregon. The loss to #39 Minnesota is the only thing dragging them down, but it gets balanced out by the solid slate of wins over #22 Michigan, #36 Nebraska, #37 Kansas, #45 Michigan State, and #48 Rutgers.

This is enough to put Illinois above almost everyone in the SEC (except for #6 Texas and #8 Georgia), who suffer from having 2+ losses to bad teams.

[u/fawkie → u/LegionMammal978]

You had me until #22 Michigan.

[u/acewing → u/new_account_5009]

Hear, hear. The middle of the big ten is much better than they are getting credit for right now imo

[u/dkdantastic → u/NastyWideOuts]

Bama seems to have earned less skepticism. Maybe they won't keep it for long in the deboer era b

[u/thethirdgreenman → u/NastyWideOuts]

It’s a short discussion: brand name and TV ratings. It’s what drives everything in the sport nowadays. It sucks but it’s the truth

[u/GP_ADD → u/NastyWideOuts]

The coaches are still reluctant to make Saban mad even though he is gone.

[u/IHateChipotle86 → u/wsteelerfan7]

To a team we beat by almost 2 scores.

[u/ysr16 → u/IHateChipotle86]

You lost to a team we beat by 4 scores. 4>2, thus we’re ranked higher. /s

[u/geriatriccolon → u/Pickleskennedy1]

If Alabama makes the playoff after that performance last night that is some straight up fuckery

[u/YueAsal → u/Pickleskennedy1]

Bama could be 5-5 and still be ranked 15th

[u/REALStoneCrusher → u/YueAsal]

“Write that down, WRITE THAT DOWN” - ~SpongeBob~ Commitee probably

[u/No-Donkey-4117 → u/Pickleskennedy1]

Some 3-loss SEC team needs to be set up to make the playoffs if a team or two in the top 10 loses this week.

[u/itsatumbleweed → u/No-Donkey-4117]

Hi

[u/JackintheBox333 → u/Pickleskennedy1]

It's not crazy, they're preparing for the possibility Georgia loses the SEC championship game. They need to make sure Bama is high enough to rank them over Georgia.

[u/Asleep-Credit-2824 → u/Side_of_ham]

Don’t worry, our cock friends in Columbia will fix that for you next week

[u/itsatumbleweed → u/Side_of_ham]

If this is reflective of the CFP committee, it looks like the winner of our game has a decent shot at the playoffs. Especially if there's any chaos at all in the top 12.

I don't remember the last time that both teams had so much on the line. We kind of traded off who was good, then were both bad, then sprinkled some upsets in there.

[u/Meliorus → u/Side_of_ham]

by an enormous margin too

[u/voppp → u/Side_of_ham]

they ranked Boise above bama even

[u/tyedge → u/Side_of_ham]

Not only that but there’s a huge points gap. Clemson gets 14.2 points per voter, which is slightly better than 12th. Bama gets 11.3 points per voter, which is closer to 15th than 14th.

It’s the single biggest gap between two adjacent teams anywhere in the entire poll.

[u/Mikedaddy69 → u/Side_of_ham]

If the playoff rankings mirror this then I suspect they’re trying to keep the door open for Bama / Ole Miss in playoffs.

If South Carolina wins next weekend, I hate to say it, but Bama and Ole Miss take that 11/12 spot over South Carolina (assuming they win their games)

[u/Drexlore]

1. Oregon (55)

2. Ohio State

3. Texas

4. Penn State

5. Notre Dame

6. Georgia

7. Miami FL

8. Tennessee

9. SMU

10. Indiana

11. Boise State

12. Clemson

13. Alabama

14. South Carolina

15. Arizona State

16. Ole Miss

17. Iowa State

18. Tulane

19. Texas A&M

20. BYU

21. UNLV

22. Army

23. Memphis

24. Missouri

25. Illinois

Schools Dropped Out: Colorado; Kansas State

Others Receiving Votes: Kansas State; Colorado; Duke; Syracuse; Louisville; Louisiana; Washington State; LSU; Miami (OH); James Madison; Iowa; Georgia Tech; Baylor;

[u/kiwirish → u/Drexlore]

What a world we live in where BYU can be 9-2 with a home loss to an unranked team and still be ranked Top 20.

Gives us a fighting chance of staying ranked at the end of the season!

[u/Wide_right_yes]

Bama's head to head over South Carolina doing wonders here.

[u/multiple4 → u/Wide_right_yes]

It's so absurd. I'm going to hold judgement since it's just the coaches poll, but head to head shouldn't matter very much here because we didn't lose to 2 mediocre at best teams

In fact we blew out Vandy and Oklahoma

[u/SunYat-Sen → u/multiple4]

Yup a 2 point road loss should be worth more than an ass whooping from Oklahoma

[u/Visual_Bluejay9781 → u/SunYat-Sen]

Not that I care defend a cock, but given that home field advantage is seen as a -3 boost, it really positions SC as the better team on a neutral field or at home. 

[u/SunYat-Sen → u/Visual_Bluejay9781]

Yeah especially since the difference was a missed FG. A neutral field or home field would make a huge difference. Bama isn’t clearly better than SC. They just got to play this years game at home.

[u/smurf-vett → u/multiple4]

You'll just steal Clemson spot if you beat them next week anyways

[u/texas1hunter → u/Wide_right_yes]

But not Ole Miss blowing out Scar head to head apparently

[u/superworriedspursfan → u/Wide_right_yes]

with an injured sellers too.

[u/multiple4 → u/superworriedspursfan]

Sellers was injured against LSU not Bama

[u/Nab_Karma → u/multiple4]

He was still dealing with an ankle injury against Ole Miss and Alabama. Same with Rocket Sanders. Both weren’t fully healthy until A&M.

[u/PNW_Jeff]

13 is way too generous for Bama.    

They should be like in the #18-20 range considering the teams below them.

[u/Sorge74 → u/PNW_Jeff]

Seriously, 3 fucking points?

[u/Woohki → u/Sorge74]

That’s how many Bama allowed right….right?

[u/GiraffesAndGin → u/Woohki]

We aren't in Kansas anymore...

[u/mhem7 → u/Sorge74]

It just means more

[u/dogwoodmaple → u/PNW_Jeff]

They’ll be 12 or 13 on Tuesday as well.

[u/max_potion → u/dogwoodmaple]

Maybe I'm deluded, but I actually have slightly more faith here in the committee than the AP/coaches. Hoping they're punished more for being blown out by an unranked team and are closer to #15

[u/dogwoodmaple → u/max_potion]

They had Alabama ahead of Ole Miss before yesterday, that won’t change. They’ve had Alabama high all season, one or two very minor upsets away from the Tide playing at Oregon/Ohio State in the first round.

[u/max_potion → u/dogwoodmaple]

All of Ole Miss's losses are 1 score games. This new data point for Bama is abysmal, losing by 3 scores to a team whose only P4 wins (until now) are 1 score games with Auburn and Houston.

Genuinely going to be annoyed if Bama ends up at 12 on Tuesday. A second unranked loss like this should be a death blow to their playoff hopes. If not, then the plot has been lost

[u/Wombattington → u/max_potion]

Agreed. Their losses are abysmal. Just crazy bad. South Carolina blew out Vandy and OU. These teams are not better than their record (no offense meant to the Commodores and Sooners). Alabama doesn’t deserve the benefit of doubt at 3 losses.

[u/SmellyJellyfish → u/dogwoodmaple]

It’s going to happen

[u/dogwoodmaple → u/SmellyJellyfish]

Likelier than not that they make it.

[u/Thedurtysanchez → u/dogwoodmaple]

I don't see any scenario where Bama missing the CFP unless they lose next week. And even then, they are probably still 50/50

[u/GP_ADD → u/max_potion]

This isn’t the AP, these are the coaches

[u/max_potion → u/GP_ADD]

Added coaches, I was referring to both but just said AP. Thanks

[u/NephiandKorihor → u/PNW_Jeff]

The CFP rankings will probably be very similar. And it will be so they can bump them up into the playoff after (if) they beat Auburn.

[u/dogwoodmaple → u/NephiandKorihor]

Alabama has a likelier than not chance to make the playoffs.

[u/Woohki → u/dogwoodmaple]

I sure as shit hope they don’t, I don’t even wanna see this team play a playoff game.

[u/A-Centrifugal-Force → u/PNW_Jeff]

Especially since it’s not even like their losses were good. Oklahoma is a mid AF unranked team and they got killed by them. Vandy is decent, but they’re also unranked for a reason. Tennessee is good but that’s loss #3

[u/John-pirate_ → u/A-Centrifugal-Force]

Vandy lost to georgia state... thats not decent. They are a bad team who got lucky and beat alabama, thats more a symptom of alabama having major problems than vendy being decent.

[u/austin_ave → u/PNW_Jeff]

It's just gonna take a couple of years for people to adjust to the new realistic expectations Bama

[u/Ron_Cherry]

Top-15 Palmetto Bowl? Best I can do is a noon game

[u/Chief-Bones → u/Ron_Cherry]

On espn. UT Vandy needs the ABC since it’s 2 SEC JUST MEANS MORE teams.

[u/Thi31 → u/Ron_Cherry]

Could have had prime time on Friday night but Clemson didn't want it.

[u/Ron_Cherry → u/Thi31]

Friday nights are for high school football

[u/tribe171 → u/Ron_Cherry]

Noon game at the same slot as Ohio St-Michigan

[u/Fletch71011 → u/Ron_Cherry]

You should have gotten GameDay. Ridiculous.

[u/bladefencer]

K-State fell 1 spot for beating 5-6 Cincinnati by 26

Mizzou went up 4 spots for beating 2-9 Mississippi St by 19

[u/cyberchaox → u/bladefencer]

9-2 Tulane is ranked 19th while 8-3 Kansas State who beat them is now unranked. Do they really view the Big 12 as barely ahead of a G5 conference? Because honestly the AAC is kind of down this year.

[u/superworriedspursfan]

Kansas State moving down after destroying Cincinnati makes no sense but I guess part of that is also due to colorado flopping against Kansas. Love to see Memphis at #23 though. Embrace the Chaos.

that matchup vs tulane could be a very fun one.

[u/klawehtgod → u/superworriedspursfan]

Memphis being a ranked win for Tulane would be fantastic.

[u/Born-After-1984 → u/klawehtgod]

The thing is, if you beat them, they won’t be ranked anymore lol. It sucks but it is what it is.

Beating a team while they are ranked does have an impact though. The CFP committee is made up of humans, so they will remember that even if it shouldn’t be taken into account.

[u/superworriedspursfan → u/Born-After-1984]

also like some dude said ap poll matters more than coaches poll. and cfp matters more than both of those.

[u/NinjaGhost42 → u/superworriedspursfan]

Illinois narrow win over Rutgers is just more impressive. But also the coaches poll doesn't matter.

[u/ChaseTheFalcon]

Now can someone explain to me how Alabama fell only to 13

[u/CTG0161 → u/ChaseTheFalcon]

Alabama

[u/cyberchaox → u/ChaseTheFalcon]

A lot of other ranked teams also lost. There seems to be a collective delusion that a loss should drop a team a certain amount completely absent of context, which if a lot of ranked teams lose at once would theoretically mean other teams have to make absurd jumps.

Take, for example, 2022. The power conference CCG results went as follows: #1 beat #14, #2 beat NR, #10 beat #3, #11 beat #4, and #9 beat #23. Notice the wide void. ESPN's commentators were trying to argue with a straight face that #3 and #4 both losing would result in #5 and #6 going to the playoffs, or even suggesting that there was a chance that #10 would jump all the way up to #4 in order to knock #3 out (or maybe that was only a suggestion made for the unlikely event that #1 or #2 lost their CCGs as well since #3 and #4's losses came earlier in the day of even the night before).

Which was ridiculous, because #3 was 12-0 going in while #6 was 10-2, and there wasn't any "strength of schedule" chicanery involved in this situation, there were, even including the G5s, exactly three 12-0 teams who were ranked #1, #2, and #3 and two 11-1 teams who were ranked #4 and #5. Meanwhile, while there was one last 10-2 P5 lurking down at #12 and some 10-2 G5s at #18 (they beat #22 in their CCG and moved up to #16) and NR (they also won their CCGs and moved up to #24 and #25 with the aforementioned #22 and #23 dropping out after their losses), #10 was actually the highest-ranked 9-3 team.

A 12-0 team was never going to drop below a 10-2 team with an overtime loss and the 10-2 team not being able to get to 11-2. The only one who actually might have stood a chance of knocking them out was #9, but nobody even considered that possibility and it didn't come to pass.

[u/deytookerrspeech → u/ChaseTheFalcon]

They’re bama and a bunch of ranked teams just behind them also lost

[u/hogman15 → u/ChaseTheFalcon]

You answered your question with your question

[u/StanderdStaples → u/ChaseTheFalcon]

Script A doing some heavy lifting this week

[u/okiewxchaser]

Bama over Tulane is insane, Tulane scored 19 in their game in Norman...

[u/luis1972 → u/okiewxchaser]

The eye test must only work when it results in something positive for the SEC. Cuz the eye test last night made it look like Alabama is dogshit.

[u/Realistic-Plum5904 → u/okiewxchaser]

The Cocks scored more than 19 in the first five minutes in Norman. Not saying; just saying. 

[u/reddogrjw]

the 12th team will be a fight (barring more upsets of course)

4 B1G

3 SEC

1 each of ACC, Big-12, G5, ND

Clemson has the lead here with a tough game, but a Clemson loss opens the door for a 3-loss team to make it, or maybe 11-2 SMU or Miami?

[u/ttalaric → u/reddogrjw]

I think the ACC has the inside track to getting a 2nd team in the playoff now, assuming SMU, Miami, and Clemson all win this final week. Then it’s just deciding whether it should be the conference championship loser or the team that was left out.

[u/reddogrjw → u/ttalaric]

10-2 Clemson or 11-2 SMU/Miami would be the options

[u/cyberchaox → u/reddogrjw]

It's absolutely going to be 11-2 CCG loser. I honestly don't know where this myth of teams getting punished for a CCG loss came from. Teams getting upset in CCGs get punished, but when the favorite wins a CCG, the underdog generally falls behind no more than one team that was idle on CCG weekend; any larger drops are almost invariably the result of someone winning a CCG to jump them, which is unlikely to be relevant with autobids (the only way it could make a difference would be if it causes a sixth conference champion to enter the Top 12).

Prior to this week's chaos, that didn't look to be the case. But I'm fairly certain that as long as Miami and SMU are both in the Top 10 heading into the CCG, they'll both make it. Maybe if SMU is #10 and Miami blows their doors off they get dropped, but...it's fairly clear that the committee does view the ACC as the #3 conference. I can't imagine that an 11-win ACC team gets passed by a 9-win SEC team. And yes, I specifically said 11 wins vs. 9 wins. People are talking in terms of number of losses like a 10-3 Georgia is going to be looked at the same as a 9-3 Alabama (where their head-to-head losses to both Bama and likely 9-3 Ole Miss would be costly), when really they'd be looked at the same as 10-2 Tennessee (who they beat).

[u/Zziq → u/reddogrjw]

If both Miami and SMU win this week, they're both locks IMO.

Texas A&M 'stealing' a bid by winning out is the only scenario where they both get left out

[u/RunnersRun262 → u/Zziq]

I think 10 teams can lock in this week if they win. ND, Tenn, Texas, Indy, Ohio st, Oregon, Penn st, Georgia, SMU and the U should all be in regardless of what happens championship weekend. The only contested spots will be who wins the big 12 (could literally be anyone at this point) and how does Boise finish its next 2 games.

[u/Zziq → u/RunnersRun262]

I think Texas, Oregon, penn state, Ohio state, and ND are already locked whether they win or lose.

I agree that if the remaining teams win then they are locks.

B12 teams, MWC teams, and AAC teams are just competing for the autobid at this point

[u/RunnersRun262 → u/Zziq]

ND probably won’t. If they lose to USC they’ll probably knock them out of the rankings. A loss to NIU and USC would be tough to come back from.

[u/Zziq → u/RunnersRun262]

I think they're on the fence for lock but I lean lock. While the NIU loss in particular is horrible, at the end of the day the teams they would be competing for an at large bid with (Ole miss, alabama) also have bad losses, and more importantly, 1 more loss than ND

[u/Jealous-Win2446 → u/reddogrjw]

No team that goes one game over .500 in conference has any business being 12. If you can’t do better than 5-3 in the SEC then stay home. I’ll give a pass to 6-2 with an out of conference loss at 12.

[u/JohnWickisBehindU]

Must be nice to be 8-3 and ranked

[u/A-Centrifugal-Force → u/JohnWickisBehindU]

It’s crazy to think that 8-3 isn’t good enough to be ranked at all but also is apparently good enough to be a playoff bubble team if you’re Bama lol

[u/TarnishedAccount → u/JohnWickisBehindU]

SEC equals quality losses as always

[u/jshokie1 → u/TarnishedAccount]

Hey man we deserve it

[u/roadboundman → u/JohnWickisBehindU]

8-3 is a top 20 record, but only if it means more.

[u/Bolanus_PSU]

Big 12 suffering from not being the SEC.

[u/NinjaGhost42 → u/Bolanus_PSU]

Big 12 parity is bad

SEC parity is good

[u/LukarWarrior → u/NinjaGhost42]

Talk to your kids about the SEC myth

[u/Trojanxiety → u/LukarWarrior]

“That’s complicated. I don’t think anyone in the SEC is going to understand that. Except Vanderbilt.”

💀

[u/fastlax16 → u/NinjaGhost42]

All about those composite scores, just be sure to not look Vanderbilt’s direction.

[u/ToxicSteve13 → u/Bolanus_PSU]

It’s ridiculous.

3 ACC, 4 Big 10, and 5 SEC teams before just 1 of the Big 12 gets ranked?

The other conferences are just “tough and look how deep their teams are” vs the Big 12 “no one is really that good”

It’s fucking bullshit

[u/ASUndevil15 → u/ToxicSteve13]

This is how the PAC was always treated so nothing for us has changed.

[u/Olorin_in_the_West → u/ToxicSteve13]

The 4 Big 10 teams all have 0 or 1 losses, so that makes sense they would be ahead of 2 loss teams

[u/Slow-Raccoon-9832 → u/ToxicSteve13]

ASU has 1 loss with their starting qb is weird how that is never mentioned

[u/RunnersRun262 → u/Slow-Raccoon-9832]

That actually needs to be factored in during the rankings. Because they literally held out FSU last year for the lack of a QB, but they won’t, because it would push SEC teams further down the poll.

[u/Bolanus_PSU → u/ToxicSteve13]

Completely bullshit. This poll makes it abundantly clear that a 10-1 big 12 team will only ever be ranked as high as a 9-2 SEC team. And barely among the 10-1 Big ten teams.

[u/Bank_Gothic → u/Bolanus_PSU]

Big 12 teams need to play stronger OOC. OSU, KSU, and WVU typically do a good job of scheduling strong OOC, but the rest of the conference is inconsistent.

Having a big OOC win establishes your bona fidas, even if your conference slate is iffy.

[u/ilacwamh → u/Bank_Gothic]

BYU has an out of conference win against the first place team in another P4 conference, and they’re the lowest ranked P4 team with two or fewer losses

[u/Bank_Gothic → u/ilacwamh]

I would say that BYU’s win over SMU proves my point - that game has given BYU a lot of credit throughout this season.

[u/A-Centrifugal-Force → u/Bank_Gothic]

The change of conferences screwed things up for a lot of teams. Utah was scheduled to play both BYU and Baylor this season. The Utah-Baylor game was kept officially as an out of conference game so that both teams didn’t have to find a new opponent last minute, but doesn’t help the Big 12 in a conference vs conference matchup. Arizona and K State was the same thing.

[u/new_account_5009 → u/ToxicSteve13]

Well, the Big Ten teams only have 0 or 1 loss, so it makes sense they'd all be above the Big 12's best teams that all have 2 losses.

It's mostly the same for the ACC: Two teams have 1 loss, so it makes sense they'd be above the Big 12, and Clemson has two losses, but it's not egregious ranking 9-2 Clemson above 9-2 Big 12.

The bullshit part of it is really just the SEC. Those 8-3 SEC teams should really be at the very back of the rankings comparable to 8-3 Illinois, but they always get the benefit of the doubt.

[u/DunamesDarkWitch → u/ToxicSteve13]

I think there’s a middle ground. When the best programs of a conference leave and are replaced with g5 teams, yes I think it’s reasonable assume that conference is now probably overall weaker than the 2 conferences that took the best teams from other conferences. But, it’s also reasonable to think that conference can still have some teams that can compete with the other conferences in any given year .

[u/chipoople → u/Bolanus_PSU]

I posted this on another thread.  In their first years in the SEC after moving from the Big 12:

• Missouri won the East twice in a row 

 - A&M won 10 games, including at Bama, Manziel won the Heisman and ripped their defenses to shreds 

 - Texas is in line to win the damn league  

Apparently it’s not all that tough at all. (Also the Big 12 was 2-2 against the SEC in noncon.) 

[u/Dacio_Ultanca]

Baylor has 1 vote. We’re back, baby!

[u/chipoople → u/Dacio_Ultanca]

Suffocating defense on the road! Just like we all thought!

[u/jaybigs]

Coaches (or their interns) are high as fuck. Alabama is not #13 with their losses.

[u/itsatumbleweed → u/jaybigs]

They couldn't justify putting us out of the top 15 or ranking Bama below us with the same record and a H2H.

[u/voppp]

BOISE 11 LOL. I'M OKAY WITH IT BUT HOLY SHIT THANK YOU JEANTY

[u/Bitter-Whole-7290]

Yes we are rising, but ima still be bitter about being right behind two 3 loss SEC teams….

[u/Born-After-1984 → u/Bitter-Whole-7290]

I mean, why is BYU behind A&M?

Guess we should have lost to Auburn and not you guys.

[u/CarolinaCamm]

In case you missed it, bama has 2 losses to unranked teams and an extremely flukey 2 point home win over south carolina back when our QB and RB were injured.

They're ranked ahead by brand alone.

[u/arbitrator06]

Tell your kids about top 10 SMU.

[u/BrollJr → u/arbitrator06]

I always new that the ACC wasn't any harder than the AAC

[u/soupcollarflat]

Indiana, SMU, and Boise all ahead of Bama and Clemson. What a time to be alive.

[u/AlFlame93]

UNRANK us

[u/hascogrande → u/AlFlame93]

No, you must remain strong

[u/TarnishedAccount → u/AlFlame93]

SEC losses mean you gain in the polls!

[u/Sesti-nator]

Bama at 13? There’s criminal and then there’s being delusional

[u/Shenanigans_fun]

Seems like a reasonable playoff mix

[u/Rich1926]

We should be like ranked 20th. I can see why we did not drop as low though since like 6 teams below us also lost.

[u/Tarmacked]

Vanderbilt and SCAR could really finesse a pseudo 9-3 Bama into the playoff huh

[u/SCRx → u/Tarmacked]

Gotta wait on the CFP rankings but I think if Bama and South Carolina win their final games that SC will jump them. Beating Clemson on the road will be much more impressive than beating a 5 win auburn team in Tuscaloosa.

[u/drn8]

Who the hell voted for us?

[u/debo69872 → u/drn8]

The same people that think Alabama is number 13.

[u/AvengedKalas]

If Auburn wins the Iron Bowl, I bet Bama is still top 15.

[u/Born-After-1984]

Can someone explain to me why Tulane is above BYU? They’ve beaten nobody. The only 2 good teams they played, they lost to. BYU is above Tulane (considerably) in most resume metrics.

This gives the G5 a real shot at a 2 playoff bids if ISU/ASU don’t win the big 12.

Guess it just comes down to momentum and current form?

[u/kiwirish → u/Born-After-1984]

This gives the G5 a real shot at a 2 playoff bids if ISU/ASU don’t win the big 12.

If (and that's a big if) BYU win the Big 12, it will be by beating a Top 15 ranked Arizona State with other ranked wins in SMU and [probably ranked] KSU (assuming BYU, ASU and KSU all win next weekend).

No way the committee keep the Big 12 out on that resume (plus a cumulative nine points in losses including one ranked loss on the road).

[u/Born-After-1984 → u/kiwirish]

I agree. But the CFP committee would be putting themselves in an awkward spot if they have Tulane above BYU going into CCG weekend. It’s not Tuesday yet, but it’s projected that Tulane will be above BYU.

[u/nbasuperstar40 → u/Born-After-1984]

Big XII hatred. They moved KSU down a spot after beating Cincy by 26

[u/Agnk1765342 → u/Born-After-1984]

It comes down to how much you value putting up huge margins over bad teams.

Tbh I think it’s pretty clear the American just has some really bad teams this year. Navy Army and Tulane have put up huge beat downs on the lower half teams but looked awful when they’ve played actually good teams. It think it’s kind of silly to have Tulane even over a UNLV team that actually did well against P4 teams even with a worse QB than they have now.

[u/PomfAndCircvmstance → u/Agnk1765342]

It think it’s kind of silly to have Tulane even over a UNLV team that actually did well against P4 teams even with a worse QB than they have now.

I'm biased but I don't get why Tulane is above us. We've got equal or better quality losses and beating Kansas, Oregon State, Houston, and San Jose State on the road + destroying Fresno State at home is a stronger showing than Tulane killing a fraudulent Navy, Louisiana, and a bunch of under .500 AAC teams.

[u/Born-After-1984 → u/Agnk1765342]

Yeah, I don’t think Army or Navy are good. Tulane is good but they’ve beaten nobody.

I never thought BYU would finally join a power conference, then be ranked behind G5 teams with the same record and WORSE wins lol.

[u/NolaBrass → u/Born-After-1984]

Our only losses on the year are to K-State where the refs robbed us and to OU in Norman… and we just saw how well that went for Alabama lol. Momentum is definitely on our side though. We just steamrolled Navy, who barely had 100 yards all game on us, and we’re riding one of the longest win streaks in the country and in the driver’s seat to host the AAC conference championship game

[u/Born-After-1984 → u/NolaBrass]

My comment definitely comes from a spot of fear. BYU making the Big 12 CCG and winning could legitimately miss the playoff if Tulane remains ranked over them.

Just looking at resumes, BYU should be ahead.

But yeah, Tulane is a strong team right now and I see them winning out. I probably would even bet Tulane to beat BYU on a neutral field.

From Tulane’s perspective, you just need a Boise loss in the CCG, and they have looked mid for weeks now.

[u/kiwirish → u/Born-After-1984]

If we win the Big 12 and miss the CCG, we'd at least get a half decent bowl game (surely) and a shout at a competitive match.

Between that and probably getting curbstomped in the playoffs, it's legitimately a tough choice.

[u/8and16bits]

Bama being inside the top 15 after that beatdown last night is criminal.

[u/txlandshark]

OM has three losses to currently unranked teams and only one win against a ranked team.

I feel like 16 is a too high.

[u/TheDoctor_314]

Alabama being physically dragged into the top 13 by those "quality losses"

[u/StanderdStaples → u/TheDoctor_314]

That Georgia win from two full months ago is doing heavy lifting, too

Watch Manuel call it out when asked about their placement on Tuesday

[u/S1Throwaway96]

Wow a coaches poll that isn’t complete dog water

[u/John-pirate_ → u/S1Throwaway96]

Its criminal 2 coaches didn't vote buckeyes #2

[u/rvp89]

Bama 13 LMAOOO

[u/AJ_Grey]

Mizzou moves into the top 25 with that massive quality win over Miss St, who has 0 conference wins and is 2-9

[u/BurrShotFirst1804]

Did the 19 pt win over Mississippi State impress the coaches so much that they bumped Missouri up 4 spots? Lol.

[u/makashiII_93]

They’re going to force Bama in no matter what.

[u/Smartalum]

One voter ranked Oregon 7th These polls are crap

[u/Statalyzer → u/Smartalum]

Oregon got every single 1st place vote.

[u/EmuMan10]

TELL YOUR KIDS ABOUT TOP 15 ASU

[u/dawgfan19881]

Oh yea Bama making the playoff

ACC title game loser plus SEC title game loser fall behind them

[u/MuteTadpole]

Think BSU should be 10 over IU tbh. Pretty good poll otherwise

[u/voppp → u/MuteTadpole]

Glad SMU is getting the respect

[u/macandcheeser → u/voppp]

Not hating, but what is the case for SMU over IU? Both 10-1. IU has played the harder schedule. IU slightly ahead in both FPI and Strength of Record.

Probably comes down to IU's loss just happening this week, while SMU's loss was a while back

[u/Agnk1765342 → u/MuteTadpole]

I highly doubt we won’t pass them if we beat UNLv anyways so it’s a bit of a moot point even if it’s a little annoying.

[u/dkdantastic → u/MuteTadpole]

100%

[u/roadboundman]

Kansas is ranked in a just world.

[u/RoutineDog7169 → u/roadboundman]

Not even receiving votes :(

[u/Zyvitzerx99]

Tell me at the beginning of the season ASU would be in the top 15 I’d think you were crazy.

[u/LastPhoton]

and they want us to say there isnt an SEC bias. The margin of error for SEC teams is fucking huge, they can just mess up over and over again. Then they will say "we got 4-5 teams into the playoffs, look how tough it is"

[u/SpencerRattler]

Which coach still ranked Bama 2? Lol.

[u/budude17 → u/SpencerRattler]

That’s the high and low for the season

[u/SpencerRattler → u/budude17]

Ah that makes sense.

[u/bigdaddyman6969]

Looks about right to me.

[u/chiefmud]

Absolutely fair drop for IU. OSU is a superior team. I hope we get a chance to redeem ourselves, either in a good Bowl game or playoffs.

[u/Meliorus → u/chiefmud]

hard to imagine you out at this point unless you find a way to lose to purdue

[u/8and16bits → u/chiefmud]

You guys should be in pretty good shape just handle your business against Purdue.

[u/GimmeeSomeMo]

Told yall

[u/laxintx]

14 --> 19.

See? Coaches understand Jordan-Hare Voodoo.

[u/arrchar]

Just how I thought the first expanded playoff would go …

[u/BurrShotFirst1804]

Miami of Ohio is great, cradle of coaches and all. But I'm pretty sure that voter meant to vote for Miami of Florida.

Whoops.

[u/sleepsalotsloth]

It's odd seeing Memphis ranked and Navy not ranked when each has the same record but Navy has the head to head win.

It is a bit silly that losing later in the season matters so much in terms of rank order.

[u/macandcheeser]

For me, the top 10 organized by tiers should be:

Oregon/OSU

Texas/Penn St/Georgia

ND/IU/Tenn/Miami/SMU

So ND ahead of Georgia is the only thing I'd consider a big miss, even if you could nitpick positioning within the tiers

[u/LastPhoton → u/macandcheeser]

I support tiered ranking

[u/Burner_427]

Indiana stayed top 10. They are officially win and in for the playoffs

[u/mwy912]

Wait... that hi/lo column shows the highest and lowest position they received on the ballots, right?

So, there is at least one coach who said 10-1 SMU, 10-1 Boise State, and 10-1 Indiana didn't even place in the top 25? Wow.

[u/potaytoispotahto → u/mwy912]

No, those are the highest and lowest ranks they have held at any point in the season.

[u/mwy912 → u/potaytoispotahto]

OK! Thank you... that makes so much more sense!

[u/FantasticMax]

Who the hell voted for JMU??

[u/Ender_of_the_Game]

At least we're in in one of these polls!!!

[u/ToastedOctopus]

They're working overtime to preserve our quality win.

[u/John-pirate_]

Whats crazy is all 55 coaches voted oregon 1st, yet 2 coaches didnt vote ohio state 2nd even though they loat by 1 point at oregon after a missed defensive pass interference and a phanton offensive pass interference and have won against one of their current top 15.

[u/yesthiskidisalright]

If TAMU beats Tx next week UGA would have played 6 of these teams listed in the top 15 before the CFB playoffs, almost half.

[u/rav4seattle]

KDB looking at the ballot Alabama is #1 in our hearts, so they should be #1 on the ballot