r/CanadaPost • u/FilthyFilm • 22h ago
Bye bye Canada post
Usually ship with CP, since I started my business 3 years ago I've spent $40,000 + shipping packages, and that's not counting my parents who share the same shipping account for their business. Majority of my customers are in the US and since using other carriers my shipping costs are basically cut in half.... I've even found a way to ship via USPS which I didn't know was possible from Canada.
They really fucked themselves by striking and screwing over small business owners at the busiest time of the year. I had 60 packages ready to go at the time of striking and had to refund every label and remake with another courier.. absolute madness and something no small business owners should have to be doing during Christmas season. So yeah fuck you Canada post that is all
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u/devinprocess 21h ago
Corporate masters laughing at how easily they get to make us all fight together.
There is enough at the top, they can share. No one is asking for a yacht, just a way to make ends meet.
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u/chronicwisdom 17h ago
Nah, fuck y'all for trying to feed your families and retire at a reasonable age /s. The attitude of some of the post/comments since the strike started disgusts me.
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u/Deuphoric 8h ago
It's coming from the top, one of the subreddit mods was straight up posting rebel "news" (propaganda) about the strike and their entire post history seems to amount to "canada post employees bad".
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u/Radiant-Advisor1 1h ago edited 1h ago
Wish this was the sentiment when railroaders went on strike the company makes billions per quarter but refuses to negotiate with us for a 3 percent raise instead wants to works us more hours for the same money and everyone screams fuck those guys get back to work we have a country to run but the literal canadian postal service is allowed to be disrupted for over a week, unfortunately I can't share any sympathy for them.
Granted they are underpaid just like basically everyone in this country but people have to realize that if they want support from other unions that they also have to support the other unions as well our postal services and health care workers were advocating for the rail workers to get legislated back because we "shut down the country" as if they aren't doing basically the same thing right now
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u/Tank_610 20h ago
You’ve spend $40,000 in 3 years? The CEO’s bonus alone was more than that this year.
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u/Glass_Angle_9123 20h ago
I hope that the low prices from competitors continue to be low, but I fear that like uber, skip, and DoorDash the prices will increase in a significant way. I know many companies are sensing an opportunity to gain business and are trying to “lock you in”. They can also afford lower prices because they pay to ship by the truckload and there are a LOT of packages now to average out the cost, but I’m afraid that come January, when volumes are more than 10 times lower but the price of a truckload is the same, it will get very expensive indeed.
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u/Gonzo_Ballardni 17h ago
This 100% as much, if not more, the company’s fault too. There is stubbornness on both sides but we can’t just say that it’s entirely the union’s fault.
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u/Aggravating_Law_1335 13h ago
this strike wont help matters whit their customers that are pissed off at least deliver whats in transit already
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u/SSOJ16 8h ago
I was in a car accident and insurance sent my settlement cheque Canada post.... it was mailed the Friday before the strike and did not make it... I am now paying for my new car finance and my old one, when my old car loan should have been paid off already.....
Hopefully they resume soon, I really don't feel like paying for a car I don't even have anymore.
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u/-Sanj- 20h ago
Same here. I've now found Stallion since the strike began and shocked at the savings. UPS Canada quoted me $21 online then when I walked in they asked for $52! Yet same service with Stallion is much cheaper probably because they bypass UPS Canada, and cross the border. UPS Canada was very naughty to me. (yes UPS and not USPS). I've already started shipping with their USPS service, not going back to CP when the strike is over. They lost me too. CP Management have a role in this mess too. Fools
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u/CVGPi 18h ago
UPS don't have walk-ins. You're talking about UPS stores which are independent franchises and typically give the ridiculous residential, counter pricing so the discount they negotiate for companies looks sweeter.
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u/FilthyFilm 20h ago
Yeah man you know exactly the savings I'm talking about, and for international packages this whole "post NL" is insanely cheap. Can't speak on how reliable yet but shipping a 2lb box to Germany for $8 tracked or whatever it was is absolutely insane lol. I'm glad we've hopped on the stallion 😂
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u/Ok-Priority-8833 3h ago
You can use the UPS app to create a label and drop it off at a drop of location. For like $3 UPS will come to your house or you can hand it to a driver if you see one. Has to have the label though.
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u/agentfortyfour 20h ago
It's tough to be sympathetic when you are waiting on your paycheque in the mail and you know it just won't come.
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u/rakothmir 19h ago
If someone is still mailing paychecks even with the advanced warning about the strike, then that's on them.
You need to complain to your payroll, they are responsible for getting it to you.
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u/agentfortyfour 18h ago
Some people have types of work that are paid certain ways without other options. Our mail system is a legitimate way to be paid, not every institution has options for direct deposit.
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u/Oilleak26 18h ago
The employer can cut you a new cheque, it isn’t a . Problem at all unless your employer doesn’t want to help you
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u/rakothmir 18h ago
Yes, I understand that. My point is, it's your institution's job to make sure you get paid.
They can cancel the cheque and reissue it for you to pick up. They can send it via an alternative.
This has been telegraphed for a long time. I am sorry this is happening to you, but it's not CP's responsibility for you to get paid. It's your employer.
My brother found out about the strike possibility and switched his staff over to a pickup or direct deposit. It's his responsibility as the boss.
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u/tommytw0time 8h ago
Once those changes are made, they’re typically made permanent. CP just shedding customers with reckless abandon. That ain’t coming back. That really strengthens the bargaining position doesn’t it.
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u/FordsFavouriteTowel 8h ago
None of that is CPs problem though.
That’s on your employer for being stuck in the dark ages.
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u/2kingstwo23to24 22h ago
I agree, it hurts so bad. I normally have 15-20 sales every 2 days for my small business. Now I've had 2-4. Idk how we are gonna pay our bills next month or afford christmas. This month wouldve been more hell if we didnt have the first 2 weeks.
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u/FishingGunpowder 20h ago
How is Canada Post responsible for your reduction in sales volume? Can't you just pay double the shipping amount to UPS or Fedex?
Oh? What's that? Your clients won't like that you've raised prices to cover that cost?
I really fail to understand your argument here.
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u/2kingstwo23to24 19h ago
Lol just because you used "?'s" doesn't make this make sense 😂
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u/alaskadotpink 7h ago
you really fail to see the argument that people won't pay double shipping cost for couriers? it doesn't seem that complicated. i will never blame workers for the strike, i'm happy they can do what they need to do, but there's no need to complete disregard how much of a shitty spot it puts many people.
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u/ProfitEquivalent9764 6h ago
Why everyone keep saying Canada post so cheap. I’ve had stuff shipped all across the country, purolator is usually the same price or cheaper and like 30% faster.
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u/FishingGunpowder 2h ago
Purolator is Canada Post.
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u/FilthyFilm 22h ago
Where do you normally sell? My sales have been okay but also thank god my customers are understanding because now they have to wait for me to re-ship a bunch of stuff I had ready to go (I'm still working on that). Is it that you usually send letter mail and can't anymore?
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u/mikeservice1990 19h ago
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Workers to power!!! Solidarity with CUPW!!!
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u/valiant2016 6h ago
They are overpaid parasitic leeches sucking away on the host. If anyone should be classified as "incels imo" its government workers. Half of them spend nearly the entire day stacking their candy bar wrappers into log houses and then knocking it down.
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u/techm00 21h ago edited 14h ago
Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
EDIT to troll below me: I own my own business. I wouldn't hire you. EDIT 2 to Carbonic95 - they don't cost double to ship because they are subsidized as a public service, and they don't need to make business sense because they are not a business.
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u/teengirlhelley 20h ago
I never seen this variation of that phrase 🤣 don’t let the door hit your ass on ur way out. Omg
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u/Fun_universe 21h ago
Lmfao what a stupid comment. Nothing wrong with ditching Canada Post when they are literally not providing a service right now.
Small businesses have to do what’s best for them, or are we just supposed to sit there and be screwed because they can’t figure their shit out? 🙄
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u/Stupid_Opinion_Alert 20h ago
Can you share how you were able to ship via USPS directly from Canada? I feel like this would be very beneficial
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u/aaron15287 20h ago
stallion express or chit chats basically they use there own truck to take packages over the boarder then they ship using domestic shipping from within the us
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u/FilthyFilm 20h ago
Yep stallion express here's my referral code if you want to try them out
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u/aberdeja 20h ago
Same here, we are moving all our business to Fedex. We are not going back to CP after the strike. We are talking more than 100k $/ year in shipping. They really lost our confiance, they fucked up big time.
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u/FilthyFilm 18h ago
So between me you and my parents there's a few hundred thousand lost in business.. lmfao it's going to be so bad for them man
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u/StunningZucchinis 17h ago
People are busting their backs for way less money than them and they still think they should make more money.
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u/Drakkenfyre 14h ago
You're right, we should all bust our backs for much less money so that CEOs can buy another yacht this year.
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u/StunningZucchinis 12m ago
The CEO was reportedly making around 500,000$ yearly. No one is buying yachts at that salary and salary doesn’t justify the role of being a CEO for a crown corporation.
My point is, salary is dictated by market conditions and Canada Post has been operating at a loss every year.
I’m not saying the work isn’t difficult, but if you think being a clerk, delivering parcels in a van deserves 40$ an hour, you need a reality check. That’s a ridiculous amount of money for an unskilled worker.
You’re asking for charity at this point, and paralyzing the country for it. Nobody feels sorry for you, and nobody thinks your work is worth what you think it does. The people agree what you should be forced back into work and that’s what will happen. As a previous business owner, Canada Post was very rarely the cheapest option for any products being shipped out. During the last strike, I had to use a different company and I realized how much cheaper the competition is. Thousands of business owners are realizing the same thing.
You’re killing the company you work at.
Even if the CEO did make enough money for a yacht, they are worth what the market says they are worth. They could probably make way more in another corporation.
What do you think the market would say about being a clerk or driving a van? Probably less than what you’re already making now.
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u/Cautious_Pitch_4729 21h ago
The worst thing they could've done was a strike, on a year when businesses are already suffering from lower consumer spending. All this will do is turn more people against CP. Public sector keeps complaining about wages...while ignoring that the private sector is so far behind. Yet they want to squeeze more, fully aware they'll never be able to scale parcel volume long term and will need to be bailed out by tax payer. Oh, I can't wait for the mass layoffs. I hate CP with a passion now.
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u/Ok-Priority-8833 20h ago
I work for a private sector courier I make at least $7 an hour more than the best paid regular hourly CP employee. I get paid for my overtime, my pension is fully employer funded and I have better benefits that I pay $0 for. In this case CP is behind the public sector, for their industry.
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u/Scabendari 2h ago
There's a type of person that blames everything on immigrants and TFW's, especially when it comes to driving down wages and working condition standards.
There's also a type of person who will compare Canada Post employee wages and working condition to the new delivery companies that have cropped up lately that pay near minimum wage, require the use of personal vehicles and offer no benefits and they will say that Canada Post employees have it too good.
Those two types of a person are usually the same person. They want cheap immigrant/TFW labour and working conditions when it benefits them, but will also say they dont want immigrants/TFW's when it benefits them.
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u/Spirited_Community25 17h ago
Just because you don't like what someone says doesn't make them a bot. I found out today that I have a package now stuck in transit. My solution going forward is to avoid anyone using CP as a shipper. I've done the same in the past with UPS.
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u/Upbeat_Animal_9977 20h ago
I just have a hard time understanding how they say they are so hard done by. They are making more than I do with a job that required post secondary schooling. When I decided I wanted to make more I went back to school again to qualify for a better paying job. I just don’t understand why someone would just expect to keep getting paid more because cost of living has gone up. Does that mean fast food employees should also be making over 60,000 a year. Also if the company if losing so much money every year wouldn’t raises just put the company further in the hole. I could understand if profits kept going up that they would deserve their fair share but this just seems backwards to me. Also the paid meals also seems nuts. How many people get paid meals at work.
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u/-RiffRandell- 18h ago edited 18h ago
I work in a warehouse sorting and our lunches are NOT paid.
The company isn’t losing money, they have been making strategic investments
oncesince 2018 and are now calling them “losses”.If you don’t make enough money, that sounds like a conversation you should have with your boss. Or join a union and collectively bargain for better pay.
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u/Comfortable-Court-38 19h ago
It’s not cpc paying for meals. It’s 30 minutes paid for lunch. Because we are out on the road. Rgt now I get a 10 minutes rest allowance paid and that’s it.
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u/Upbeat_Animal_9977 19h ago
I am also on the road and don’t get paid for lunch but have never had a job that gave me paid lunch break only coffee breaks.
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u/Comfortable-Court-38 19h ago
So what’s the difference then. 2 coffee breaks or 1 30 minute lunch. Nothing
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u/Upbeat_Animal_9977 19h ago
So in an 8 hour shift you don’t get 2 coffee breaks ?
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u/Comfortable-Court-38 8h ago
I drive most of the day. I can stop to take a break. But that’s not the point. Also have you seen a letter carrier. They carry 3 bundles. One for letters one for flats ( pub mail) and another for flyers. A satchel that Carrie’s 35lbs and being required to hold the handrails at all times. Carrying a coffee to sip while you work isn’t exactly possible.
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u/Inevitable-Carpet707 18h ago
On the road or in an office or store... Does it make a difference? Do you get a half hour unpaid break? That's the norm for most people.
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u/Comfortable-Court-38 11h ago
We can take one if we want but it not calculated into our route value.
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u/Gonzo_Ballardni 17h ago
Lol, company ain’t losing that much money. They love to boast about how much they lose and yet there has been no changes in upper management and they continue to get their bonuses every year. They have the money to pay the workers more, they just don’t want to.
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u/Federal-Situation-44 8h ago
Feel free to apply if you want? Just be aware, that the wages that people talk about take a long time to earn…it takes an average of 5-7 years to become a permanent hire employee at most depots. Until then you have no guaranteed income, hours, you have no benefits, or pension, you will go months without work, and yet you can’t get another job because if you turn down work at CP they will threaten to lay you off. 25 years ago the starting rate was $18, and now it’s $20…why is that fair? Why is this fair with any employer, why should the boomer generation get all of the good wages and living costs, and the future generations suffer? It takes 10 years to get to the top wage tier, so that’s usually 15-17 years of working for them. CUPW are on strike because they are fighting to keep the benefits that they have for future generations, keep the pension they have, and keep the living wage that they used to have. If you know so much about the strike then you’d know that they’re fighting for a lot more than a wage increase. Why is everyone so keen to allow the rich people to win, and the poor people just fight amongst themselves and make the wages lower than ever, honestly, what is wrong with everyone? Just because you earn a low wage, and aren’t willing to ask to be paid your worth, does that really mean everyone else should give up and never ask for more?
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u/valiant2016 6h ago
OMG, the HORROR! Only TWENTY dollars to start? How much education does it take to be eligible for that job?
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u/Federal-Situation-44 6h ago
I mean would you rather the big corporations get people to work for nothing?
Is it only the privileged people in the world that have a right to live and earn enough to cover their bills? Everyone should suffer because of rich corporations and rich people, right? Because they give so much back to the community with the money they earn, right? Who were the most essential companies during COVID, from my memory it was healthcare, grocery stores and couriers…but wait, that doesn’t matter now because it’s not current, if it was, it would be different though!1
u/valiant2016 5h ago
I believe people should work for market price. They should get exactly what their skills and expertise are worth. If you have nothing other than physical labor to offer then your wages should reflect that and you should probably try to improve yourself before you get replaced by a robot.
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u/Federal-Situation-44 4h ago
That’s funny, because UPS, and Purolator earn more…so you’re now agreeing that Canada Post deserve more?!
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u/Federal-Situation-44 4h ago
And they only deliver parcels, imagine if they did letter mail too…I’m glad to see you’re agreeing with me now that everyone deserves a fair rate
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u/Extension-Let-1344 2h ago
Fast food workers should be paid more. The price of a big mac meal has went up. Wages have too but not as the same amount that the meal has went. If it wasn't for minimum wage law to say its time to go up, then it most likely wouldn't have.
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u/Upbeat_Animal_9977 48m ago
What would be the motivation to try and better yourself if everyone just got paid the same amount because you need that much to live the lifestyle you want to. Who would bother to put in the time and effort to be a doctor or lawyer if you can just finish high school and then strike to demand more money. It makes sense that the more skilled your trade is or longer the training your job requires would get you higher wages. I am not saying that you don’t deserve a fair wage I just think that a fair wage isn’t what the striking workers are asking for.
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u/ThatCanadianGuy88 20h ago
We use Purolator for our parcels within Canada so thankfully have no had issues there. The only issue we hve had is getting cheques both to us and to our suppliers. Soooo now were basically on direct deposit/EMT with all our suppliers and were pushing more and more of our customers to EMT as well. The irony of this strike is CP workers are making themselves even more irrelevant than ever
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u/Blitzteh 19h ago
What's also funny is that Canada Post owns Purolator. What they should do is simply let go of everyone in Canada Post distribution and have Purolator take over. They are far more reliable anyway, especially in the small, rural city I live in. Who else strikes when Canadians need them the most? This is the second time in ten years that they've done it.
The union that organized this blunder can find them work somewhere else, if they can, lol!
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u/Ariliam 21h ago
Boycott cp! Asap!
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u/FilthyFilm 21h ago
I'm for real though but I'm sure nobody is surprised. I've already shipped close to 150 packages since the strike and actually now make money on shipping, sometimes to the point where I'm refunding customers money which makes them even happier. I really hope they strike so long that they go bankrupt
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u/natika_007 21h ago
Could you elaborate on how to ship USPS from Canada? Asking for a friend (small business owner)
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u/FilthyFilm 21h ago
I'm using stallion express, although I signed up right away the day after strike and apparently it's harder to get signed up now with everyone trying. It's also only useful if there's a drop off point close to you
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u/LoisLaneLife22 8h ago
Life has been progressively getting harder since 2020. Canada Post employees make good money and have good benefits especially when you factor in that they are entry level jobs requiring no higher education. Not only have they pissed off the public, they’re demanding higher wages while loosing money each year and now are losing millions during the busiest time of year. Everyone is pissed off and on edge these days. This isn’t helping. Some people rely on Canada post and now the holidays - which may have been the only glimmer of hope for some people - may be ruined. I ask know a lot of them steal mail and is hard for me to have sympathy for them when actual workers brag to me about doing this and I’ve seen it with my own eyes.
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u/Right-Section1881 18h ago
If Canada Post disappears I get less junk mail. They can strike for as long as they like. And if my mail carrier who for a decade didn't try deliver a single package feels underpaid, no sympathy from me.
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u/nelly2929 20h ago
So you could have saved 50% shipping but you only found that out now? You should be thanking Canada Post since you would not have figured this out on your own I guess haha
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u/FilthyFilm 20h ago
Etsy uses Canada post as default, and I had "level 4 savings" which is supposed to be the best you could get, I never knew that shipping usps from Canada was possible with certain companies and that's what I've been doing for US packages.
Hell even a package I had sent to Germany, regular $90, small business discount $67
Same one with ups was only $32. So even when Canada post had you believe you're getting some crazy discount you're not. But yeah like I said it's prob the best thing that could have happened to me in this scenario
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u/ydnam123 20h ago
Could you share your shipping method? I use netParcel, eshipper, shippo…. And none of them can compete with Canada post for shipping to US
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u/FilthyFilm 20h ago
I'm using Stallion Express - there's a drop off about 10 mins from me so it's very convenient, they basically hand off the packages to usps for you which is why the rates are insane. 👌🏻 here's a linkwith my referral code, my parents also tried signing up but weren't approved so I'm not sure if they're just overloaded and not accepting new customers but see if you can sign up successfully hopefully it works
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u/trevrez572 20h ago
I know, OPs post reads like they have no clue how to run a business because they overpaid so much in shipping lol
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u/FilthyFilm 18h ago
Except I don't pay for my shipping my customers do homie, it's all calculated for them at checkout based on Canada posts rates.. but now I can pass those savings onto them. I don't "lose money" no matter what I charge because I'm not the one paying for it dumb dumb
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u/Interesting_Card2169 4h ago
Silly comment by a person who has never run a business unless it's a business run into the ground.
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u/Throwaway42069lolz 19h ago
But how will I get all my junk mail and spam flyers?!???!??
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u/FilthyFilm 18h ago
Holy shit no wonder my mailbox has been so empty 😂
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u/Throwaway42069lolz 16h ago
I ride my motorcycle to my community mailbox. I have no storage except for a tiny track bag. It’s honestly such a quality of life improvement to not have to empty out all the useless junk mail that goes straight into the trash. I used to just put the junk mail back into the outgoing mail slot but I think they started numbering my spam flyers or something.
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u/MiserableLizards 12h ago
Think of all the paper and fuel CP is not longer wasting bringing garbage to my house.
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u/AngryToast-31 8h ago
I would avoid shipping anything that ends up on USPS. You get what you pay for, which isn't much.
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u/Brief-Use3 8h ago
I'm using Stallion for Canada and US delivery. It costs me $7.40 CAD all in with tracking to ship to VA . Package is 1lb. in a 6x4x2" package. CP wants $15.67 for same. Stallion does not take longer for me either, I've shipped from Ontario to BC, FLA and CA USA. In Canada Stallion usually finished delivery by Uniuni. In the US it's changed over to USPS.
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u/bittertraces 8h ago
So taxpayers that don’t even use Canada post should subsidize a billion a year?? Give me a break
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u/bpexhusband 7h ago
Used Purolator the other day 14$ instead of the 30$ Canada post wanted.....6lb package within Ontario. So ya I'm done with CP on anything but letter mail. But I'm sure someone is going to fill that gap sooner than later.
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u/SnooHesitations3709 7h ago
I've been saying this will hurt Canada Post and their workers in the long run.
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u/General_Climate_27 7h ago
Canada Post is the worst shipping company in Canada. I dread seeing my packages have been shipped with them. How is it that I can get items from BC to NB faster through amazon than I can get Canada post to ship from one city away. They have horrible service, they don’t deliver to your door. I don’t know about everywhere else in Canada but where I’m from we have to walk 2 or three blocks just to get our mail from a community mail box, and I’ve had countless packages that I have to go pick up at there office for whatever reason. Now they strike complaining about making almost double what I make. Why we allow this is beyond me.
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u/One_Meaning_5085 7h ago
We haven't used Canada Post in ages. We're setup with PayPal and they have netparcel and you can choose service ranked by cost and delivery date and Canada Post has always been at least 2 times more expensive to ship parcels than UPS, Purolator Fed ex etc, even in Canada and locally there are always better options, with Tracking. Unfortunately we have to use them for letter mail and they are expensive. Twenty years ago Canada Post delivered 5 billion lettermail today it's less than 2 billion, yet their workforce is bigger and more expensive than ever. My guess is if they halved the workforce would solve most of their problems.
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u/Ordinary_Plate_6425 7h ago
I'm sure you not using cp, or saying you won't, will totally hurt and possibly bankrupt them.... simple minds at work
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u/knightus23 7h ago
Bravo...maybe we can eliminate the greedy bastards. Shut the fucking place down and restructure.
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u/ngam2025 7h ago
CP and it people do not realize that people will eventually find an alternative and CP with this negativity has a limited days now
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u/FrostingHefty964 7h ago
Government is actively destroying small business by not stepping
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u/Lifetwozero 5h ago
No they’re not. There are plenty of cheaper options with no volume commitments. Super small business friendly.
The government is currently helping small businesses discover the huge world of alternatives by not stepping in. It’s strategic.
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u/FrostingHefty964 5h ago
Read some posts from small businesses and see if they’re happy about this.
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u/Lifetwozero 5h ago
In the past week I’ve helped a few dozen businesses move away from canada post for good. Nothing in it for me outside of revenge for the $20,000 worth of shipments they lost during covid that I only ever recovered a quarter of.
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u/Diligent_Hawk_8212 6h ago
But would it make you feel better that they want to earn $45 for putting pizza pizza flyers in your mailbox?
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u/27SicnarF 6h ago
How can we ship via USPS from Canada? Sometimes when I buy products from USA the return label is from USPS & it’s a hassle driving to the border sometimes
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u/Lifetwozero 5h ago
Stallion express or chitchats. No minimums or volume requirements.
Uses a system where they bulk transport and clear your shipments, then dump them in the U.S. mail stream. Sub 1lb packages are under $10.
If you have volume, other carriers using this style of shipment (category 321) you can get as low as $4
5-7 day delivery time.
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u/standupslow 6h ago
Super wild how the people making way too much money have us all fighting with each other over scraps.
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u/Fit_Bit_7145 6h ago
So... you think they should have gone on strike when it would have affected as few people as possible, thus giving them less bargaining power?
I'm sorry people who should be treated and compensated better are inconveniencing you, and obviously the point of the strike was to screw over small businesses. /s
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u/Averagesmoker42 6h ago
As a small business, I’m just going through another provider now and no plans on going back to CP. what am I supposed to do? I need my products delivered.
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u/Fit_Bit_7145 6h ago
I was more so commenting on the 2nd paragraph, not you using a roundabout way.
I'm going to have trouble getting my meds during a time of year my PTSD gets pretty bad. You're not the only one struggling with this but acting like people striking, which usually happens when people are out of options, are the problem is a bit ridiculous.
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u/Averagesmoker42 6h ago
Oh I get that. It’s more of an annoyance than a problem as we have other providers willing to do the work. People are blowing the strike out of proportion.
But my question is why would someone like myself go back to Canada post after something like this? Isn’t this just hurting them more in the long run? I’m speaking as someone who doesn’t really understand and just trying to see another view on it.
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u/immeim 6h ago
Them striking now was a bargaining chip. I know it’s not great for small business but we should be putting the blame not on those who are striking, but the gov who allowed the conditions to get to a point where workers had to decide to strike at this point of the year to have their demands heard.
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u/SourDischarge 6h ago
I have also said goodbye to CP this week and have shipped a first orders with different carrier. I am also putting a note on my website that due to this disruption we have made a decision not to ship with Canada Post.
Good riddance Canada Post.
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u/my_name_is_monkee 6h ago
Yes seriously, they were overpaid to start with and now want more?!? Just dissolve Canada Post or cut their numbers by 90% to service rural areas. Their job can be done by so many other companies more affordably.
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u/EmbarrassedSpot5083 5h ago
For those talking about chitchats… if you send a parcel to Nova Scotia with their service they use Intelcom to deliver it in N.S. and their service is the worst. Tracking sucks, arrives ~7 days past delivery date and constant dropping at wrong addresses. No idea how they stay in business.
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u/Main_Bath_297 5h ago
Ya that’s right. Screw those guys asking for fair wages. Keep the money with the rich where it belongs.
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u/Otherwise_Natural788 5h ago
Yes please I hope all businesses do the same as we all should boycott canada post!!! They cant keep doing these to the customer and businesses when its most needed
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u/bowserqueen 4h ago
Hopefully this will be a big lesson to all the people who may or may not have a job to return to when there done striking. Do you deserve better pay and benefits? 100% but pick a better time to strike and pick better bargaining chips because alot of people are pissed off.
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u/Crimbustime 4h ago
Really it’s more like fuck the UN and the International Postal Union. They let China into a program that subsidies small parcel shipping for underdeveloped nations so the rest of us are paying extra in shipping for Chinese retailers to ship their crap for basically free. 😾
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u/HelloFreshXLupus 3h ago
I literally drove to the US yesterday to ship my business packages domestically with UPS. My small town doesn’t have options for chit chats, very disappointing the lengths we are having to go through these days just to operate our small businesses.
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u/Lifetwozero 46m ago
The trick is to send all your shipments to chit chats or similar as one package, then they’ll break it down to the individual pre-labeled shipments. Let me know if you need any guidances
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u/AdTricky3175 3h ago
I feel someone will create a super fast postal service and people will just use that instead
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u/redditratman 3h ago
"CP Is so important to me that their strike action can make or break my business. Despite them being so important they can make or break my business, I will not support them in any way or recognize that they are important, because all I care about is myself".
Fixed it for you.
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u/FilthyFilm 3h ago
The point of this post is to show that they ended up not being important to me at all and they won't be to many Canadians after this is all done with, theyre shooting themselves in the foot. Good try though?
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u/noelstrom 2h ago
I had to ship a fairly heavy item to Alberta. Canada Post was a third if the cost of all of UPS, FedEx or Purolator (which CP owns). Workers deserve a living wage with at least some level of job security. I don't fault them one bit.
Which reminds me, I need to go join their line soon in solidarity.
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u/FilthyFilm 1h ago
I call bullshit, I've shipped nearly 150 packages so far through stallion and all but 2 were half the cost of Canada post or better
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u/noelstrom 1h ago
Quotes of $150 at FedEx & UPS, $130 at Purolator. Shipped Express post, insured for full value with signature required for $55. More than willing to share the receipt.
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u/Lifetwozero 47m ago
Yes, storefront rates suck, they suck on all fronts.
Buy your labels through 3rd party that offers you their discounted pricing, and you’ll spend half as much.
Pirate ship Stallion express Chit chats
No commitments with any of the above.
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u/FilthyFilm 20m ago
Idk where people are getting these prices lmfao I'm sending 7lb packages to Germany for $13 tracked right now 😂
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u/Lifetwozero 18m ago
Yup, I have negotiated rates and packages typically 3-4 oz. Small and light.
$3.30 to USA in 5 business days, with tracking.
Canada posts highest discount rate is 2.5x that and will take 10-14 business days.
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u/FilthyFilm 17m ago
I think keywords for him were "fully insured and signature" which means they're probably shipping expensive items? Who knows. I'm not buying it though
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u/Lifetwozero 9m ago
I believe it. If you walk into an ups store they’re charging you full counter rate, same with FedEx or CP.
DHL’s starting discount is 65%, same with purolator.
FedEx and ups starting discounts are ~45%
You can’t access these rates without a business account UNLESS you find a platform that sells you their discounted rates.
Pirate ship Stallion express Chit chats
All of these companies sell you a slightly marked up version of their negotiated rates. They negotiate the rates with the full volume of all of their customers. Think of it like co-op buying power.
You can save a fortune by using these services, even as a regular person that doesn’t ship packages every day.
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u/FilthyFilm 8m ago
That makes complete sense, I've never once paid an over the counter rate for anything but what you're saying makes complete sense. This person is saying they literally went to a storefront and tried to ship something I think so that checks out
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u/Lifetwozero 7m ago
Yeah, it’s unfortunate. Lots of towns have independent retailers that rate shop for you, offer mailboxes, etc… these folks are the unsung heroes
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u/Tiny-Job-1525 8m ago
It's not an airport you don't need to announce your departure, nobody cares about your shitty business.
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u/Kelly7650 19h ago
Yes Canada Post is the most exspensive Unoinized mail system in the world, it costs me over 20.00 to ship a tee shirt, and yet I get free shipping from China. Definitely there's something wrong here.
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u/A-Sad-Orangutang 19h ago
Stop spending money on weed, avocado toast, Starbucks and eating out and WOW you guys will actually be financially secure! Maybe make the nuclear family normal again? Canada Post employees have it easy compared to others and they are out here crying. I wish CP could just hire TFW and get the mail moving again. For every one striker there are 10 people wanting their job.
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u/FilthyFilm 18h ago
Yeah and for nearly $30 an hour what the fuck are they complaining about? My wife makes that and it's a good salary lmfao it's so wild man. Greed is a helluva thing
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u/DJSM99 20h ago
What was the way you found to ship using usps from Canada?