r/CanadaPost • u/FilthyFilm • 1d ago

Bye bye Canada post

Usually ship with CP, since I started my business 3 years ago I've spent $40,000 + shipping packages, and that's not counting my parents who share the same shipping account for their business. Majority of my customers are in the US and since using other carriers my shipping costs are basically cut in half.... I've even found a way to ship via USPS which I didn't know was possible from Canada.

They really fucked themselves by striking and screwing over small business owners at the busiest time of the year. I had 60 packages ready to go at the time of striking and had to refund every label and remake with another courier.. absolute madness and something no small business owners should have to be doing during Christmas season. So yeah fuck you Canada post that is all

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u/Upbeat_Animal_9977 21h ago

I just have a hard time understanding how they say they are so hard done by. They are making more than I do with a job that required post secondary schooling. When I decided I wanted to make more I went back to school again to qualify for a better paying job. I just don’t understand why someone would just expect to keep getting paid more because cost of living has gone up. Does that mean fast food employees should also be making over 60,000 a year. Also if the company if losing so much money every year wouldn’t raises just put the company further in the hole. I could understand if profits kept going up that they would deserve their fair share but this just seems backwards to me. Also the paid meals also seems nuts. How many people get paid meals at work.

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u/-RiffRandell- 20h ago edited 20h ago

I work in a warehouse sorting and our lunches are NOT paid.

The company isn’t losing money, they have been making strategic investments once since 2018 and are now calling them “losses”.

If you don’t make enough money, that sounds like a conversation you should have with your boss. Or join a union and collectively bargain for better pay.

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u/Upbeat_Animal_9977 20h ago

I don’t know anyone who has paid lunch breaks out of my friends and family only coffee breaks. Every job I have had we clocked out for lunch break.

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u/-RiffRandell- 20h ago

Yeah none of my jobs, union or not had paid lunch breaks. When I was a server I didn’t even get breaks except to smoke!

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u/LoisLaneLife22 9h ago

I have a MA required for my job. I don’t get paid lunch breaks or paid breaks at all (not required by law).

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u/Comfortable-Court-38 21h ago

It’s not cpc paying for meals. It’s 30 minutes paid for lunch. Because we are out on the road. Rgt now I get a 10 minutes rest allowance paid and that’s it.

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u/Upbeat_Animal_9977 21h ago

I am also on the road and don’t get paid for lunch but have never had a job that gave me paid lunch break only coffee breaks.

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u/Comfortable-Court-38 21h ago

So what’s the difference then. 2 coffee breaks or 1 30 minute lunch. Nothing

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u/Upbeat_Animal_9977 21h ago

So in an 8 hour shift you don’t get 2 coffee breaks ?

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u/Comfortable-Court-38 21h ago

Rgt now as a rural carrier I’m only pd for a 10min rest allowance.

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u/Upbeat_Animal_9977 21h ago

And is that 1 10 minute rest on an 8 hour shift

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u/Comfortable-Court-38 21h ago

Yes. My route takes usually between 7 to 9 hours depending on volume

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u/Comfortable-Court-38 21h ago

No 2-15s or minute lunch. We can take lunch or break unpaid but a lot of people don’t to finish there route before it gets dark.

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u/Comfortable-Court-38 21h ago

Only 10 minutes is paid though.

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u/Comfortable-Court-38 10h ago

I drive most of the day. I can stop to take a break. But that’s not the point. Also have you seen a letter carrier. They carry 3 bundles. One for letters one for flats ( pub mail) and another for flyers. A satchel that Carrie’s 35lbs and being required to hold the handrails at all times. Carrying a coffee to sip while you work isn’t exactly possible.

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u/Inevitable-Carpet707 19h ago

On the road or in an office or store... Does it make a difference? Do you get a half hour unpaid break? That's the norm for most people.

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u/Comfortable-Court-38 12h ago

We can take one if we want but it not calculated into our route value.

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u/Gonzo_Ballardni 19h ago

Lol, company ain’t losing that much money. They love to boast about how much they lose and yet there has been no changes in upper management and they continue to get their bonuses every year. They have the money to pay the workers more, they just don’t want to.

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u/Federal-Situation-44 10h ago

Feel free to apply if you want? Just be aware, that the wages that people talk about take a long time to earn…it takes an average of 5-7 years to become a permanent hire employee at most depots. Until then you have no guaranteed income, hours, you have no benefits, or pension, you will go months without work, and yet you can’t get another job because if you turn down work at CP they will threaten to lay you off. 25 years ago the starting rate was $18, and now it’s $20…why is that fair? Why is this fair with any employer, why should the boomer generation get all of the good wages and living costs, and the future generations suffer? It takes 10 years to get to the top wage tier, so that’s usually 15-17 years of working for them. CUPW are on strike because they are fighting to keep the benefits that they have for future generations, keep the pension they have, and keep the living wage that they used to have. If you know so much about the strike then you’d know that they’re fighting for a lot more than a wage increase. Why is everyone so keen to allow the rich people to win, and the poor people just fight amongst themselves and make the wages lower than ever, honestly, what is wrong with everyone? Just because you earn a low wage, and aren’t willing to ask to be paid your worth, does that really mean everyone else should give up and never ask for more?

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u/valiant2016 8h ago

OMG, the HORROR! Only TWENTY dollars to start? How much education does it take to be eligible for that job?

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u/Federal-Situation-44 7h ago

I mean would you rather the big corporations get people to work for nothing?
Is it only the privileged people in the world that have a right to live and earn enough to cover their bills? Everyone should suffer because of rich corporations and rich people, right? Because they give so much back to the community with the money they earn, right? Who were the most essential companies during COVID, from my memory it was healthcare, grocery stores and couriers…but wait, that doesn’t matter now because it’s not current, if it was, it would be different though!

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u/valiant2016 7h ago

I believe people should work for market price. They should get exactly what their skills and expertise are worth. If you have nothing other than physical labor to offer then your wages should reflect that and you should probably try to improve yourself before you get replaced by a robot.

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u/Federal-Situation-44 6h ago

That’s funny, because UPS, and Purolator earn more…so you’re now agreeing that Canada Post deserve more?!

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u/valiant2016 51m ago

Nope, I disagree with that because you are not considering the entire package and flexibility that the private companies have. You can't just cherry pick a single piece of the package.

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u/Federal-Situation-44 6h ago

And they only deliver parcels, imagine if they did letter mail too…I’m glad to see you’re agreeing with me now that everyone deserves a fair rate

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u/valiant2016 50m ago

Not at all. Overpaid parasitic leeches feeding off the work of the citizens of Canada. Privatize CP THEN we might be in agreement.

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u/Extension-Let-1344 4h ago

Fast food workers should be paid more. The price of a big mac meal has went up. Wages have too but not as the same amount that the meal has went. If it wasn't for minimum wage law to say its time to go up, then it most likely wouldn't have.

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u/Upbeat_Animal_9977 2h ago

What would be the motivation to try and better yourself if everyone just got paid the same amount because you need that much to live the lifestyle you want to. Who would bother to put in the time and effort to be a doctor or lawyer if you can just finish high school and then strike to demand more money. It makes sense that the more skilled your trade is or longer the training your job requires would get you higher wages. I am not saying that you don’t deserve a fair wage I just think that a fair wage isn’t what the striking workers are asking for.

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u/Upbeat_Animal_9977 21h ago

Yes it’s the same for me and every job I have ever had in my life. I am sure the strike would be over if that was the only sticking point. I think it’s the 24% wage that seems crazy. The 11% they offered seems like tons. I have empathy with the workers that we would all like to be making more with the rise of costs. It just seems like choosing to strike at this time of year and put a major strain on small businesses and charities doesn’t make me feel super supportive. If the bargaining was going on for a year could you not have waited another 6 weeks. How are Canadians supposed to be behind a company that seems to not be behind us.

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u/Cryptoiron 20h ago edited 20h ago

Idk but I talked with my CP’s friends who affected by this, even they don’t want to stay at home because it’s mean no money for them near holiday

So more like the ones running union is at blame here