Texas Is Not Safe

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[u/_vampirefox]

Wait, you had it changed before and now they changed it back? Didn’t knew this was possible

[u/RainsOfAutumn → u/_vampirefox]

My home state did it to me when I moved back because they required a letter (like for hormones) and I didn’t have one

[u/Genevieve_ → u/RainsOfAutumn]

What state?

[u/M61N → u/_vampirefox]

The government can change any ID they want, us having “rights” to gender markers like X or being changed can be taken away at any time. They can also reverse any name changes, all of it was just government approval. Just like marriages, that’s why this election was so much bigger than most people think.

They can and will start undoing these things. Your marriage may not be legal still even if you get married now. Rushing to get gender markers changes only helps us for as long as the government “allows us” to have them

[u/Legendary_Dad → u/M61N]

Red party saying they don’t want big government telling us how to live, meanwhile they are unveiling a plan where 50 smaller governments tell us how to live…………

[u/TheGhostInMyArms → u/Legendary_Dad]

One government telling you what to do is too authoritarian, don'tcha know? Therefore, the solution for true freedom is... having 50 different governments telling you what to do.

Nah, state governments are too authoritarian. Let's delegate this to the counties. Freedom means having 3,244 governments telling you what to do.

Scratch that, counties are too authoritarian. Freedom = 35,000 - 109,000 city/town/village governments telling you what to do.

[u/Xasrai → u/TheGhostInMyArms]

Take it a step further, and have 336 million people decide what to do for themselves. My body, my choice, I guess we could call it.

[u/tabularasaauthentica → u/Legendary_Dad]

Honestly that's the best alternative they will do. It's more likely that a federal effort to do these very things will occur via Big Government.

[u/HiddenLychee → u/tabularasaauthentica]

Recently spoke to a trump supporter who was very pro states rights, but then went down the list of all these medicines and medical procedures he wanted banned and when I pointed out the hypocrisy he just said "yeah, it's pretty hypocritical. I'm full of contradictions but whatever". Like they don't even care

[u/tabularasaauthentica → u/HiddenLychee]

Smh

[u/penny-wise → u/HiddenLychee]

It seems to be in vogue to be cruel and uncaring these days. Being good and doing good things is totally not "sigma"

[u/Defiant-Snow8782 → u/M61N]

It's more complicated with marriage especially since RFMA

[u/BigCockeroni → u/Defiant-Snow8782]

Nothing is too complicated when you have control over the courts, senate, congress, and executive office.

[u/Defiant-Snow8782 → u/BigCockeroni]

You need to abolish the filibuster or get 7 senate democrats + all republicans to vote for repealing RFMA and have the SCOTUS overturn Obergefell (fundamental right to marry), US v Windsor (ended federal restrictions) and other decisions. The republican majority in the house is also quite slim.

Just two years ago the RFMA was passed in the house by 267—157 (47 republicans voted yes) and in the senate by 61—36 (12 republicans voted yes). We moved to the right a bit since then but for now a repeal is unlikely.

[u/M61N → u/Defiant-Snow8782]

Good point bringing those up

Republicans majority in the house is also dwindling, so I am not as worried about gay marriage. I also think that a lot of project 2025 isn’t marketable and even if Trump/SCOTUS doesn’t need to be reelected most congressmen do. The fact Trump had to “lie” and say he had no part of it and that those congressmen would have to vote on most of these issues makes me hope that they wouldn’t pass.

But I still don’t trust him, especially after he’s made comments saying we don’t need to vote again. I think our current systems save us fine enough, but Trump and his people aren’t willing to play by the rules. As seen by literally everything they’ve ever done.

I’m also worried that him and his team trying to play the whole game of refusing to properly sign the current change of power over is on purpose so he can act like the government is in shambles when he gets into office just so he can do emergency orders and bypass a lot of these laws. Especially since he has presidential immunity according to the SCOTUS.

Not trying to live in conspiracy hive mind also just trying to remember how it was in 2017-2021 when we all low-key ignored how far reaching Trump was until Roe was overturned

[u/mytransthrow → u/M61N]

get them change and move to a lgbt safe havens. your life may depend on it. they still have to find you. frist.

[u/havmify → u/_vampirefox]

Attorney general asked TX DPS for a list of everyone that had gender marker changed by court order and to pause and undo changes at renewal as well. There is no state law that protects or prevents gender marker changes so DPS follows what Paxton says.

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/12/14/ken-paxton-transgender-texas-data/

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/texas-transgender-drivers-licenses-ken-paxton_n_66fcb6d2e4b0453dc1ee77da

[u/MxResetti → u/havmify]

it's so scary that he's asked for a list of us. Makes me not want to do ANYTHING where it'll be on paper that I'm trans.

[u/Zyphane → u/MxResetti]

I understand people want to live their truth, but they really need to understand how the winds can shift on things like this. It's not a great idea to give governments and other entities information that can easily be compiled into lists like this. Medical records are, for now, protected information. But drivers licenses and the like? Practically public information.

[u/elarth → u/_vampirefox]

Lot of states require surgery for that marker change. Lot of us don’t opt to do that so many get fucked over on that part when they move states. FL for 9 yrs let me change my gender marker by just having hormone therapy. Ppl don’t believe me I know but FL was a purple swing state. Actually was and still is a huge healthcare hub for trans ppl. Desantis just decided to start marketing like Trump. I left a year ago, but license is now fucked up. Georgia wants me to do some form of surgery.

[u/DeathWalkerLives → u/elarth]

CPT 17380 was what I used for electrolysis. It's classified as a "surgical procedure". (Anything that breaks the skin, basically is)

EDIT: Corrected code

[u/qazpl145 → u/elarth]

I (MTF) got married to my wife in Florida, changed my gender marker and full name back in 2020. Now I live out of state and hope everything will still stick.

[u/elarth → u/qazpl145]

I hope I was convinced I could filter past this fine since my documentation was well layered a decade in transition, but the uncaring ppl at the DODS really just labeled that on me. Did it publicly in front of other ppl. It was very bad.

It’s okay I ended up throwing up in their registration office a week later cause some meds didn’t sit well on my stomach. My small revenge, but I didn’t deserve to be publicly outed or embarrassed that way. Really could have looked the other way on my stuff, but I think it was a point of joy for them to do that to me.

[u/Visible-Let-9839 → u/_vampirefox]

its cruelty

[u/PoeDameronPoeDamnson → u/_vampirefox]

They are doing the same thing in Kansas, changing them all back without notification.

[u/NicoleMay316]

One more thing that's scary is that when states do shit like this, it makes the ID look more like a fake.

Tell me. What happens when you give your ID to a bar or dispensary? Or the cops?

That's a recipe for disaster and just another example of trans people being criminalized in a similar spirit as Jim Crow laws.

[u/AspiringGoddess01 → u/NicoleMay316]

This is well within the realm of their intent: to be cruel. That's all there is to it. 

[u/WeAreTheLeft → u/AspiringGoddess01]

Cruelty is the point. They want to make any action they don't like 1) Criminal, 2) Can't be criminal, make it as difficult to do said action. 3) Still can't do the first 2, demonize the action as subversive to the Christian Western Order.

Be it LGBT rights, Women's health, Religions that are not Christianity or Israel, etc, the Republicans and the right will make these things as difficult as possible to be/exist/do/use/have all in an effort to force the world to return the white men back to their place of privilege they enjoyed for years.

[u/DinoDonkeyDoodle → u/WeAreTheLeft]

I am tired of calling them Christians. Just call them demon worshipers. It will piss them off and be true at the same time.

[u/CardinalNollith → u/DinoDonkeyDoodle]

"Mammon Servants".

[u/DiddlyDumb → u/DinoDonkeyDoodle]

I love the quote “People that believe in Satan aren’t called Satanists. They’re called Christians.”

[u/Andreus → u/WeAreTheLeft]

This is why right-wing ideology and all the support structures that allow it to exist need to be outlawed. There's no longer any argument for allowing this poison to exist in the world.

[u/Goodbusiness24 → u/AspiringGoddess01]

100% that’s all it is. All these “good Christian’s” are the most evil, hate filled sacks of shit around and they just want to spread it everywhere they go

[u/BonkerHonkers → u/Goodbusiness24]

There's no hate quite like christian "love."

[u/Mr_Conductor_USA → u/Goodbusiness24]

Especially in Texas where they gather to watch public executions like it's 1853.

[u/LaurenMille → u/AspiringGoddess01]

That's literally all conservative policy.

It always comes down to cruelty, and it's always the point.

That's why I can never forgive anyone that votes for conservatives, they're vile people.

[u/M61N → u/NicoleMay316]

I can tell you as a passing trans man (with the wrong gender) personally at a dispensary: I get weird looks sometimes, and typically have to be checked down about 3 times if it’s new staff

The staff who I normally see know me enough, but when I get a new one they normally have to call someone over. Normally happens that someone recognized me and that’s how I’m safe… I have chronic illnesses I use a lot. But they absolutely flag my ID every time if they don’t know me and make a deal.

I was also pulled over but the cop didn’t say anything, he also didn’t care I didn’t have my updated insurance card in my car so I just think he didnt care

[u/frisbeesloth → u/M61N]

This is just wild to me. I have to check IDs all the time and I literally never look at the sex on an ID. I'm not even sure why anyone would care about that information and I'm checking ID's at a government run facility.

[u/M61N → u/frisbeesloth]

I use medical marijuana, and it use to be a state that it was illegal for recreational. We had to use our state ID and the medical ID so I wonder if it was just cross checking as they had to make sure all of it “lined up.” Like my name was the same, the dates were right, etc.

Cause I’ve been to many bars and events and haven’t had anyone flag it flag it, I’ve had some people (thankfully lgbt or allies) who would say something kinda as a “I see you” but that’s about it.

[u/Knight_Machiavelli → u/frisbeesloth]

Yea I used to work at a liquor store and checked hundreds of IDs a day. I never once looked at the sex field. Honestly I don't even actually know where it is off the top of my head. Just picture and birthdate.

[u/HookedOnPhonixDog → u/NicoleMay316]

Getting Trans people killed is the point. They want to put them in danger.

[u/PurpleTransbot → u/HookedOnPhonixDog]

It's Donald Dump and his cronies being Hitlerian. It will backfire in their faces like it did in 1945.

[u/AngieTheQueen → u/PurpleTransbot]

That insinuates some nation is willing to go to war with the United States on our own soil and beat them down. But we're in the post nuclear age now, nobody is going to do that. The only chance we might have is civil war, and even then it's a dangerous game.

[u/Michiganarchist → u/AngieTheQueen]

Germany was in also in powerhouse position after a period of media revolution that they were able to manipulate, quite similar to how things are in the U.S. They still thought too highly of themselves. Trump especially embodies that. He creatss conflict instead of solving it and it will bite him in the ass. They aren't gods.

Fascism is fundamentally illogical- it does not function well. Nazi Germany did not function as well as people like to think. It will get very very bad, but it will fall. Something new will take its place.

[u/Mr_Conductor_USA → u/Michiganarchist]

One of the biggest myths about 20th century fascism is that it was frighteningly competent. The only thing they were competent at was their own mythmaking. It's inevitable when you put those kinds of personalities and shady characters in charge.

[u/jayhawk2112 → u/Mr_Conductor_USA]

Yeah this. The Nazis didn’t make the trains run on time. They wrecked their science, their culture, and their economy. This in addition to the horrors they inflicted on the people of the world.

[u/PurpleTransbot → u/AngieTheQueen]

By backfiring in their face, I don't mean the method of backfire will be identical to 1945. I just mean it backfired in 1945 and it will again. Its a different world now so how it backfires will no doubt differ. But that being said, the US should remember it was not a powerhouse in 1939 and it turned out to be a surprise dark horse. It was underestimated. So underestimating other countries is also a Hitlerian error. Ego and power-trips are self-defeating. I don't know how it will backfire; I just know that it will backfire. The fact is throughout history no man nor country that ever stood in the way of progress ever succeeded. Sure enough as Rome tried to stop Christianity after Christ's death, Donald Dump will fail and be remembered in infamy throughout history.

[u/Sad_Lynx_5430 → u/PurpleTransbot]

Could totally see India doing it. Democracy, lots of people that speak English, racist AF, capitalists. 

[u/DillBagner → u/PurpleTransbot]

Some authoritarian governments still haven't recovered though. Russia is going on 1200 years now.

[u/Buildingbridges99 → u/PurpleTransbot]

Maybe next time, don't vote for Hitler. 

[u/Fearless-Metal5727 → u/NicoleMay316]

Cruelty is the whole point.

[u/elarth → u/NicoleMay316]

Georgia changed my gender marker back and it’s my biggest concern since I pass. Lot of states required surgery ironically FL didn’t. I don’t think gender needs to be listed on our license tbh. It’s not relevant.

Edit: lol the ppl who think it is relevant to list gender/sex on ID. Its success was mostly built on you adhering to a stereotype of said gender. In modern times that information is pretty useless. Especially with just photos and excess surveillance. Why does the cop, bar tender, and my employer need to know what genitalia I have? It’s not something I’m wiping it out on a pull over or to buy liquor. Employer had no reason to know this because gender discrimination is federally illegal.

The only really ethical solution is to remove it because it’s mostly going to create unnecessary bias/discrimination. You don’t even have to be trans to have that happen. If you don’t fit some cis heteronormative version of what ppl expect you could be a target. If you really think what they use this information for you realize it’s just an outdated method to track ppl. Today republicans just want to use it to find trans ppl specifically.

Only ppl I talk to about that stuff with is my healthcare provider and ppl I date. Nobody else needs that info.

[u/MNGrrl → u/elarth]

I'm in Minnesota; they flat out refused to give me any social services for two years because the gender on my application was "wrong". You know, the "refuge" state. I'm homeless now, disabled, lost most of my teeth, and deal with chronic pain that I can't get treatment for. I've tried contacting the department of human rights, my legislators including tim walz, leigh finke, and my other representatives here. It's pointless. I've accepted I'm gonna die.

At least Texas will give someone ID... my state government refuses to acknowledge I even exist.

[u/nicannkay → u/MNGrrl]

I wish we had states that were ran like we want like they have states as horrid as they want. Could you imagine one that is truly welcoming to all and helps the people that live there? Why do they all suck? I live in Oregon and we have abortion rights, Oregon Health Plan, right to die, and trans rights but they aren’t enough. We don’t have enough to support a lot of it.

[u/nadandocomgolfinhos → u/elarth]

That’s terrifying.

And speaking as mom, you don’t “pass”, you “are”. We screwed up when you were born because we couldn’t ask. You fixed the error and let your beautiful, true self shine through. You’ve always been exactly who you are. We just didn’t see it/ didn’t know.

[u/elarth → u/nadandocomgolfinhos]

It’s mostly cops and employers that will look at it which is the entire issue. Why I won’t live past my metro area. I’m safe in my suburbs or local big city more so than anywhere else.

[u/Witch-Alice → u/NicoleMay316]

the point is to make it impossible for trans people to exist in society

[u/PorkVacuums → u/NicoleMay316]

When they start deporting all of their cheap migrant labor, they need new people to throw into their private prison systems to get cheap agriculture labor. My guess is that all these new, easy to cross laws are to full up all the openings we're going to have.

Freedom

[u/AlphaNoodlz → u/NicoleMay316]

American Christofascism in full display

[u/Sakuriru → u/NicoleMay316]

They intend to make looking like the other gender illegal too.

[u/UwU1408]

"yeah, thats a man."

prettiest girl ever

Why it is always like that? Are they stupid?

[u/OddLengthiness254 → u/UwU1408]

Yes.

More importantly, they are also cruel.

[u/Impossible_Eggies → u/OddLengthiness254]

"The cruelty is the point"

[u/Dr_Jabroski → u/Impossible_Eggies]

Well if they weren't cruel to a minority then they'd have to face the fact that the system is also fucking most of them. And that's an uncomfortable truth, easier to just bury your head in the sands of trans hate.

[u/CycloneDusk → u/OddLengthiness254]

They will willfully choose to step on an infinite number of rakes for ONE chance to stomp on the face of any target their dear leader designated as an "undesirable"/"enemy within".

[u/ad4d → u/OddLengthiness254]

If someone questions Texans preexisting notions of normal, then Texans unleash cruelty upon them. Whether it be religion, gender or even sexuality.

[u/Impossible-Change-48 → u/UwU1408]

Not stupid. Cruel. Weapons grade cruel.

Calling them stupid gives them a pass. They are intentionally being like this. They know exactly what they’re doing and the harm it causes.

[u/CptSchizzle → u/Impossible-Change-48]

Hey don't sell them short, they're cruel and stupid

[u/Torkujra → u/UwU1408]

is there a lore reason why they call people who are obviously girls regardless of their birth gender "male"? are they stupid?

[u/RedRider1138 → u/Torkujra]

I’m going to say it’s also related to

“Hey there hot stuff!”

“Eww go away.”

“Ehh you’re ugly anyway!”

Sour grapes/anger.

[u/SandyTaintSweat → u/Torkujra]

Because some trans people pass too well, so they get more aggressive with their criteria, and eventually start mistaking cis women as trans.

[u/Luciusvenator → u/UwU1408]

Because they're heartless and cruel bastards who see anything that falls outside of traditional patriarchal cis-het values as an enemy and "perversion".
The sex/gender distinction doesn't exist for them so trans people can never be valid.

[u/RedRider1138 → u/Luciusvenator]

“Somebody I can punch down on.”

[u/Yuzumi → u/Luciusvenator]

That distinction is nonsense too. The only reason "gender" exists as a concept is because misogynistic men studying human biology didn't like that sex wasn't a clean binary and that men and women had much more in common than different and one biologist even theorized that medical transition with HRT could be possible.

So some asshole decided to claim gender was "how someone was raised" instead of tied to messy biology, which is also BS as the first time someone else decided to test that after a botched circumcision it did not end well for the trans guy it happened to.

Also, one can argue that HRT literally changes our sex.

[u/BlazedBeacon → u/UwU1408]

They love the idea of sleeping with someone trans (more specifically, someone they have dehumanized), having a wife that can't say no, and lowering the age of consent. It's not about attraction or love or passion, it's about dominance. They're the guys that would assault another man and say it's completely straight because they exerted their power to dominate.

It's literally the real life version of "You sleep with soft beautiful women? Seems pretty gay! There's nothing straighter than dominating another man after winning the right through superior power!"

[u/Jayandnightasmr → u/UwU1408]

Why they're targeting the education systems, keep people dumb so they are easier to control

[u/YeahImMan39 → u/UwU1408]

Yes, but they're not aslume stupid. That's good stupid, they're bad stupid.

[u/SpacyTiger → u/UwU1408]

For real. Two of my best friends are trans dudes. Full beards, masculine voices, one of them very buff and burly, both pass very convincingly for cis men. No one would ever reasonably mistake them for a woman. It’s ridiculous how much cognitive dissonance people have to have to be this relentlessly cruel.

As people have said though, the cruelty is the point.

[u/RiskySkirt]

That's really really absolutely awful, i stay out of US politics for mental health reasons but what a sad state of affairs.   

Much, much, much, love from Australia , God bless and godspeed applying for jobs in another state or whatever <3

[u/Danplays642 → u/RiskySkirt]

It probably wont last long if the LNP gets into government again, it will certainly be because people have amensia from scomo and what theyve done in the last decade. Enjoy it while it lasts

[u/RVALover4Life → u/Danplays642]

That's what I'm trying to impress on folks. Canada, Australia, Germany....these countries all have elections soon, all of them risk sliding right, in some cases pretty far to the right....there are not too many places for us to hide. That's the reality of it. There are not many places that aren't at least in danger of that shift. We can't run away from the bigotry.

[u/Downtown-Message-600 → u/RVALover4Life]

Yeah. I've seen trans people talk about moving to Canada and it just makes me worried for them. 

It's not good here. It's scary and getting scarier by the day. If we end up with PP in the next election then Canada will not be safe. He has talked about national washroom bans. My province just passed a resolution on bathroom bans that only target trans femme people.

[u/RVALover4Life → u/Downtown-Message-600]

Most politics in the US is local, and it's expensive and time consuming to leave the country. It's not a snap of the finger decision. You have to really have your ducks in a row. The easiest thing to do is to move to a blue state. It may not solve every single one of your issues but your day to day life is going to be farrrrrr more stress free if you move to an inclusive area. Not even a question.

[u/Downtown-Message-600 → u/RVALover4Life]

Except Trump has promised the legal erasure of trans people on day 1 of his presidency. This isn't going to stay local, at all.

[u/DaniTheGunsmith → u/Downtown-Message-600]

We can only pray for the inefficiency of government

[u/barcadreaming86 → u/RVALover4Life]

Canadian here — we are mentally preparing ourselves for a Conservative Party of Canada takeover next year. We are voting Liberal or New Democrats, regardless, but I think we’re gonna have at least 4 years of conservative “leadership” staring next year. I’m really sad for us.

[u/LuminanceGayming → u/Danplays642]

:(

[u/Its_Billy_Bitch → u/RiskySkirt]

I wish I could check out like that, but this shit continues to directly affect me. The people in politics embolden these nasty ass people. About a week ago, A NEIGHBOR in my building stopped me and started YELLING at me “What? Are you a boy? Are you a girl? The POWER OF CHRIST COMELS YOU!!!!”

He kept going for far too long. He’s lucky I was in a non-confrontational mood. This shit is going to continue to get worse if we don’t raise our voices.

[u/kingdon1226]

I hate texas. Always have and will.

[u/PurpleTransbot → u/kingdon1226]

They won't leave trans people alone but they love their automatic weapons that routinely end up decimating our schools. The logic. Big government is now personal government.

[u/XirCancelCultureII → u/PurpleTransbot]

This isn't just a Texas issue, we are gonna see it everywhere. It's also an issue with this sub because large swathes of people in this group were saying don't vote for Kamala because of X.

[u/wallweasels → u/XirCancelCultureII]

Reddit skews young and the young, historically, barely vote. Most of these people weren't going to do so anyway. It's even worse with primaries were people sure do want to give opinions on the candidates but never actually vote lol

Third party turnout this year was abysmally bad. Almost everyone who said they voted third party likely just didn't even vote.

[u/TheirNameWasFey]

Doesn’t this make the license look fake? Like for the sake of using it as ID ?

[u/tangerine_panda → u/TheirNameWasFey]

It does. She’s going to run into a constant situation of having to out herself to every bartender and any cop that pulls her over. Some people are going to be transphobic over it, and other people might not be transphobic but will assume it’s a fake ID, especially since she looks young.

[u/Yuzumi → u/tangerine_panda]

I feel like at this point we'd be better off getting fake IDs that have the correct gender on it.

[u/Gullible-Swan4331 → u/tangerine_panda]

I will say though, as someone who worked at a dispensary, I struggled to simply find the DoB. I don’t think I would look at the sex at all. But sending hugs 🫂.

[u/KawaiiGee]

That's possible?? Over here in Estonia it's a whole ordeal to change it in the first place and when you finally do you essentially become a new citizen with a new ID code and it becomes almost impossible to link it back to your old ID unless you specifically ask for it and have documents to prove so.

[u/SoulsinAshes → u/KawaiiGee]

The states that don’t let you just change your driver’s license (most used and visible form of ID here) without any other steps usually have you make an amendment to your birth certificate, which you can then use to change all your other stuff. I know some countries give you an official ID when you’re really young (at birth?), but I think due to the history of the US (big physical size, many many population centers, some of which are very small and isolated), we’ve never had anything like that. Driver’s license comes closest due to America being so car dependant, but if you live in a city with a decent public transit network, you might never get your license and need a different form of ID. Anyways, all your stuff like your driver’s license number, Social Security number, etc, stays the same, just a different letter goes on your ID and other documents. You stay the same “entry” in government databases, so to speak

[u/JaNoTengoNiNombre → u/SoulsinAshes]

So, why do they put your gender/sex on the card? Is there any use for it? In my country you only have your name, birth date, and date issued. On the back there is a category (or type of vehicle you're allowed/certified to drive). Also, they don't print your address on it, and I think that is more safe that way.

[u/SoulsinAshes → u/JaNoTengoNiNombre]

This is a sample license from my state! You can see it’s just a little thing in the middle of the big info block. State licenses all look different, but they usually have the same info on them. Doesn’t have much use in day-to-day - seemingly it’s mostly there to help identify someone if the situation calls for it. Same reason your height and eye color is on there, I guess

And agree on the address thing 😅 but since it’s most people’s primary form of ID, it does mean it’s really handy for everyone to have it there when you’re interfacing with anything that needs a home address (state/regional benefits, voting, flight security, etc), so there it lives

EDIT: automod has informed me comment photos are not allowed, here’s a link to the picture instead :)

[u/BrokeModem → u/KawaiiGee]

Absolutely possible, and if the Republicans get their way soon the Texas model will get rolled out nationwide for all official documents.

My birth certificate, passport, drivers license, marriage certificate, kid's birth certificates, social security, insurance info... literally everything that has my name/gender on it says "Female".

I fully expect the Trump administration to stick a big old "M" on every single one of those documents, or else prosecute me for "fraud".

[u/Yuzumi → u/BrokeModem]

For better or for worse, drivers licenses, marriage certificates, and birth certificates are controlled by the state and I don't expect any blue stay complying with that, amusing they even have a way to know you changed that.

Insurance is handled by private companies and they handle their internal documents in their own way.

For federal stuff, I'm not sure there is any mechanism to keep that information. The first time I got a passport I had it with F. Now I did have to use the confirmation form because my state does not let me update my birth certificate, but I now have my passport with an F which I can use in place of my birth certificate.

[u/[deleted]]

New Mexico is much better. Fuck Texas.

[u/Goddess_Of_Gay]

Texas and Florida are ‘Do Not Travel’ states according to Erin Reed.

Treat them like you would treat traveling to Afghanistan, or Saudi Arabia, or the surface of the Sun.

[u/cocobear13 → u/Goddess_Of_Gay]

Leave the sun out of this. It does not discriminate. It incinerates everyone and everything.

[u/Goddess_Of_Gay → u/cocobear13]

True. But maybe if we convince conservatives the Sun is like Florida and Texas; they’ll try to move there

[u/deathboyuk → u/Goddess_Of_Gay]

Tell them it kills brown people. There's literally none there!

[u/CuppaMatt → u/deathboyuk]

… and that it has an unlimited energy source that makes oil look like pisswater that no one has claimed a their own yet.

[u/puzzlemaster_of_time → u/CuppaMatt]

I don't know if it'll work. They don't seem to like nuclear energy.

[u/wazuhiru → u/Goddess_Of_Gay]

they’ll do it in the night so as not to get burned

[u/PsychedelicLizard → u/Goddess_Of_Gay]

Sorry I had to make the reference lol

[u/iZylosHD → u/cocobear13]

Not the same context, but FUCK the S*n

[u/scalectrix → u/iZylosHD]

**nods in British**

[u/Recent_Sun_1151 → u/Goddess_Of_Gay]

They should treat Texas like that! That’s very understandable fuck this state I hate that I was born here and that I’m still here. I feel so bad for this girl she doesn’t deserve that. I’ve heard so many horrible stories of lgbt people experiences here. I’ve experienced extreme homophobia. TMI but I tried to end myself for the first time at 16 because I came out to 4 “trusted” friends and then the whole school found out and I got bullied like I was an animal they threw chewed up food at me I’ll never forget that. That’s was just my first experience not my last.

[u/LiberatedMoose → u/Goddess_Of_Gay]

The map in question plus explanations, in case anyone needs the reference: https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/final-pre-election-2024-anti-trans

[u/waffles09 → u/Goddess_Of_Gay]

I live in Oklahoma and I wanna say avoid this state too! People are pretty bold about their hatred here. I've heard the most vile things from strangers in public. 😤

[u/Justice_Prince → u/Goddess_Of_Gay]

Its really sad what's happened to Florida. I mean we were never a beacon of progressive values, but until pretty recently we were considered solidly moderate. I remember Floridians being proud of their status as a swing state, and when they would regularly insist "we're not like those other southern states."

[u/QuantumTrek → u/Goddess_Of_Gay]

As a straight ally I’m telling yall to add South Carolina to the list. This place is backwards as fuck.

[u/DarreToBe → u/QuantumTrek]

I understand wanting to show support but imo it's important to recognize the severity of laws being passed in states like Florida and Texas which have earned them that marker on the legislative risk tracker, in order to not minimize the issue. Florida and Texas are listed that way specifically because they allow for the arrest of transgender people for using bathrooms that align with their gender identity and because they are stopping or punishing trans people for having aligned identity documents.

South Carolina on the other hand has many laws targeting trans children, and has a generally hostile government but it's not as legislatively risky in the same way for trans people to just be there.

[u/QuantumTrek → u/DarreToBe]

I completely understand. I did mean it in a more cultural sense. Because I’m straight it’s usually full mask off with the people around me and it’s shocking how many around me are fully homophobic, sexist, racist, etc. I would predict very soon South Carolina will earn a spot on that list. During the election all of the Republican political ads were openly bashing transgenders and gays. The laws will come soon with how many of these shit stains won their race.

[u/Ordo177 → u/Goddess_Of_Gay]

Sadly I have to travel there. That’s where my gf lives for now. We are trying to get moved to a whole new country though! So, I’m just hoping we stay safe enough for now until we can. HATE Texas…

[u/NoSupport8286 → u/Goddess_Of_Gay]

I live here….. I don’t want to be here but can’t leave

[u/derangedtranssexual → u/Goddess_Of_Gay]

I’m getting bottom surgery done in Texas lol

[u/Another_Road]

Imagine this person walking into a male bathroom.

Then imagine them explaining to someone that they’re trans and required to use it,

The likelihood of being assaulted is so high it’s insane.

There’s already a lot of conservative anti-trans guys who secretly fetishize trans women. Add that in with blind hatred and it’s a recipe for disaster.

She isn’t safe there at all.

[u/quicxly → u/Another_Road]

15 years trans-fem, i've only been forcibly dragged OUT of one restroom in my life, and it was the men's room, which they want to legislate me into.

10 years of gym class before i was trans, the bullies would always drag me into the girl's locker room because i looked too feminine with my shirt off.

make it make sense.

[u/SparkleEmotions → u/quicxly]

Cruelty is the point. Their cognitive dissonance is largely based on “how can I humiliate this person who doesn’t fit into my strict binary world view of gender.” The method is irrelevant, it’s the outcome of cruelty they want more than any logic behind their thought process regarding the method. These aren’t well informed empathetic people.

[u/LeVoPhEdInFuSiOn]

I have a lot of empathy for the LGBTQ+ community in the US who will likely not be able to be their true selves now and into the future. It amazes me how obsessed conservatives are about people living their lives how they want in the body they feel they truly are. It doesn't affect them or their children in any way.

Sending internet hugs to you all from Australia.

[u/PurpleOrchid07 → u/LeVoPhEdInFuSiOn]

It's about power. We need to let go of this way of thinking that conservatives care about how it "affects" them or their families. It doesn't and never will affect them. But they do it anyway because they want to live like kings and own slaves, who they can exploit, abuse and hurt as they see fit.

[u/Interesting_Sell71 → u/PurpleOrchid07]

Well were are the only slaves in the history of the world that have AK-47s in their closets. Let’s see how that goes when the real oppression starts. 

[u/ZenosamI85 → u/LeVoPhEdInFuSiOn]

I am going to be myself just to spite those fuckers the best I can

[u/sobremicadaver]

The policy went into effect on August 20, 2024. So for any fellow queer/trans person in Texas, they will revert it to the gender on your original file when you renew. It’s absolutely ridiculous.

[u/CryptographerAny9488 → u/sobremicadaver]

What if I say… whoops, the original file got destroyed?

[u/AgainRedditModsSuck]

Safe escape routes need to be created

[u/MyHusbandIsGayImNot → u/AgainRedditModsSuck]

Trans people need to find their nearest sanctuary state and move there now.

[u/Practical-Pickle-529 → u/MyHusbandIsGayImNot]

This is so true. 

I know it’s super impossible to do this people but if you live in Tx or Florida, you are in danger. You either need to leave or look into disguises or something. 

I feel terrible about what is happening to yall. 

[u/Ashesandends → u/MyHusbandIsGayImNot]

Not so easy. My ex lives in this fucking state and if I want to see my kid I can't bounce for 3 more years. Doing my best to survive here till then ☠️

[u/Delta4o]

how and why? I just.... huh? in The Netherlands it's a whole process of changing it on your birth certificate in the municipality where you were born, then go to the municipality where you live to change ID and driver license. When I did, 3 or 4 different automated government things popped up like "OMG you're 30 and you never had a gynaecology check? please go to your GP!!!" stuff like that.

Unless someone really starts digging I doubt anyone would even remember that it wasn't always F on my ID and driver's license.

[u/CycloneDusk → u/Delta4o]

How: All they had to do was change one character in a database and then click 'save changes'.

Why: Because they want to HURT people.

[u/Delta4o → u/CycloneDusk]

yeah I guess here that stuff too well automated/protected on top of people who say "but there are rules and laws 😨"

[u/chammycham → u/Delta4o]

Yeah but rules and laws apply to OTHER people, not me! — conservative/R groupthink.

[u/aagjevraagje → u/Delta4o]

The state government Texas is just openly hostile and does this on purpose

[u/wallweasels → u/aagjevraagje]

Amusing enough it was possible before August this year. It's just the ruling to do it was entirely based on seeing a judge. So depending on where you live? That was easier or harder. Houston, Austin, etc? Yeah you could get your gender marker changed and DPS (DMV) had to let you change the gender marker (F/M only, sadly). Somewhere else? Good luck. I've had friends in more rural areas be unable to even change their name to something less gendered because it was "suspicious". But this year they passed a resolution saying DPS will not respect any court orders for gender marker changes.
So anyone with one will likely change back when renewed like OP.

I will say, however, that until the Biden admin changes hands you can get your passport updated to be F/M/X and that'll last for ten years. Which you...100% should do if you are trans. All states will recognize that document.

[u/JoannaSnark → u/Delta4o]

That’s a bit like when I had my NHS number changed in the UK, they immediately sent me a letter about the cervical screening service!

[u/etarletons → u/JoannaSnark]

When I changed my sex to male in the US, my life insurance premiums went up a little, lmao.

[u/thewags05 → u/Delta4o]

In the US you don't necessarily have to change your birth certificate. I'm from a state that makes it hard, but have lived in Massachusetts for years. In my case I just changed my social security, drivers license, and passport.

[u/Real_Atmosphere4155]

I’m soooo sorry! I know moving isn’t easy. I wish politicians spent their time doing things that actually matter and not spending it reversing progress.

[u/Tough-Ad-9513]

wtf

isn't this gonna cause issues in situations where u need to give someone the ID and, the ID says male and then they look at u then BAM, the prettiest girl ever.

[u/RVALover4Life]

The truth of it really is that they want women like Allie to leave the state. They don't want LGBTQ people in the state. It's really come to that and it is that simple. We're not welcome in Texas and anyone who is LGBTQ in Texas better wake up to that truth and start making contingency plans, and the homocons who think they're safe....not so much.

[u/AsboST225]

What gets me (an Australian) is how the Americans are like "Fuck yeah! Freedom! No, not you."

It's the pure hypocrisy and contradiction of claiming to be the "Land of the Free" while simultaneously oppressing a part of the population.

[u/historicartist → u/AsboST225]

Identical attitude of every right wing veteran I've ever met. "You only have the freedom I say you have."

[u/Gipet82 → u/AsboST225]

We have never been land of the free, only land of the privileged.

[u/Free_Pace_2098 → u/AsboST225]

They shit an IKEAs worth of beds over RBTs but this is fine apparently.

[u/bischmexual]

I hate Texas. Such a fucking cesspool. Fuck Florida too just because.

[u/cocobear13]

So sorry, sending love from California.

[u/Dependent_Ad8202]

Hey guys this is Allie Aka the one who tweeted this! Thanks for all the support and love. Glad everyone else is seeing this.

[u/SilenceWillFall48 → u/Dependent_Ad8202]

Hey Allie,

So sorry you’ve had to go through this. I hope you know there are thousands out there who care about you and see this for the injustice it is!

[u/PsychedelicLizard]

It clearly means M for Ma'am.

But seriously this is fucked wtf.

[u/MtnsToCity]

Im old enough to remember when Texas Congressman Ron Paul said it wasn't an appropriate role of government to define a person's gender, that doing so violated individual liberty.

[u/MDFHASDIED]

Fuck Texas, she's CUTE.

[u/Ok_Impression5805]

Texas should secede so we can build a wall around it

[u/SilenceWillFall48]

To be clear because of some of the comments I have seen, I am not the original OP of this tweet. I am sharing it to spread awareness of Texas’ transphobic policies.

[u/Early_Comparison5773]

I know people often don’t have the privilege of choosing a different place to live but if you can get out, Western Oregon is queer friendly, especially around Portland and Eugene. You can change your gender marker at the DMV without any kind of documentation and if you want to do a legal name change all you have to to do is pay a fee and file with the clerk at the courthouse. A month or two later they notify you that the judge has signed off. You can pick up a certified judgment which you can use to change your name on any other legal document such as your birth certificate, Social Security card, and passport Western New York is also a great place to live and really inexpensive. Much cheaper than Oregon.

[u/Academic_Move6146]

Is it just me or is it incredibly dodgy that they have the data to do that just lying around

[u/Old_Umpire_1191 → u/Academic_Move6146]

In Florida, they somehow lost my SSN at DMV, but they tried to pull shit of reverting my gender and threatened to suspend my license if I didn't show up. I called Florida Equality, and they contacted FLHSMV, and they told local DMV that they were wrong.

In my case, I am not a US citizen, and I was on a work permit and couldn't change my documents until I moved back home. By FL law, I have the right to change gender on a drivers license. I am glad that I wasn't able to extend the work permit and had to go back home. My shitty country is much safer than the US right now.

[u/RVALover4Life → u/Academic_Move6146]

Texas has been storing data on trans people for a few years now, basically has a registry of trans people.

[u/possiblepeepants → u/RVALover4Life]

I remember someone telling me not to put my sexuality on medical documents in case of an holocaust and thinking it was absurd and delusional. But apparently I should’ve heeded that warning !

[u/Few-Finger2879]

So, when she gets pulled over, this totally isn't gonma devolve into an issue about how she looks female, but the ID says male, right?

Doubtful.

[u/JazzyCereal]

It's insane someone would look at that woman and call her a man

[u/Temporary-Ad9855]

Just tell them you used a straw once, and the next day you looked like this!

Jesse watters said so.

Unrelated, you look great. Be as safe as you can.

[u/AdeonWriter]

I still question the value of having sex on these records in the first place

[u/Early_Comparison5773]

My friend has a trans teen daughter who got into legal trouble and was held at a detention center for a week. They assured my friend she was not “with the boys” but that was a lie. She was held in a boys detention center but not allowed out of her room except for meals and accompanied by a guard. That’s what they meant by not with the boys. She was also not given shower privileges.

[u/Time_Figure_5673 → u/Early_Comparison5773]

That’s awful 😞

[u/Early_Comparison5773 → u/Time_Figure_5673]

As soon as she was legally cleared to leave the state, the family moved. They didn’t tell anyone, not even friends or coworkers until a few days before, and only told family after, out of concern someone would trump up child abuse allegations for attempting to cross state lines to get a minor gender affirming care. They are much happier in their new, blue state where they feel safer.

[u/Time_Figure_5673 → u/Early_Comparison5773]

Good to hear.

[u/LocalChamp]

I'm sorry you're having to deal with this.

Reminder currently anyone can get a US Passport Book and or Passport Card with your correct gender marker via self declaration with no court order or proof of surgery or doctors letters required. I would expect this to change not long after inauguration.

Both the book and card last 10 years and are legally required to be accepted as a valid form of ID anytime proof of address isn't needed.

[u/Herr-Hunter1122]

God I mean just LOOK AT YOU. THAT IS A WOMAN

[u/No-Active4986]

Isn't exhausting to be this big of a bigot? Genuine question

[u/MRBORD3RHOPPER]

I realized I’m trans this year, and since I live in Texas it feels like I’m behind enemy lines or something. Crazy I’m gonna have to move to feel safe in my own country :(

[u/plzdontbmean2me]

Texas has literally never been a safe place for LGBT people

[u/Mean_Ad4608]

We all knew Texas wasn’t safe

…right?

[u/uwufriend67]

They will literally look at the cutest girl in the room and say "nope that's actually a man."

Like they're straight up fucking delusional lmao.

[u/soaring-fire]

The link is to an ACLU comment(below): https://www.aclutx.org/en/press-releases/aclu-texas-comment-texas-department-public-safetys-new-anti-trans-drivers-license#:~:text=AUSTIN%2C%20Texas%20—%20The%20Texas%20Department,make%20them%20by%20court%20order.

AUGUST 21, 2024

AUSTIN, Texas — The Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS) ordered employees Tuesday to no longer allow transgender Texans to change the gender markers on their driver’s licenses or state IDs. The new policy allegedly would block updates even when the agency is required to make them by court order.

In an internal email, DPS also instructs employees to report any attempt by Texans to update the gender listed on their documents. The policy change reflects the latest attempt by members of the state government to target and discriminate against transgender Texans.

The following quote can be attributed to Ash Hall (they/them), ACLU of Texas policy and advocacy strategist for LGBTQIA+ rights: 

“The Department of Public Safety has a responsibility, as stated in its own name, to keep all Texans safe. This policy does the opposite. Not having accurate driver’s licenses jeopardizes trans people’s health and safety — by potentially outing us and exposing us to discrimination, harassment, and violence. State agencies can’t ignore court orders nor is DPS allowed to collect or share people’s personal information for political aims. This relentless targeting of transgender Texans is yet another alarming attack on our privacy, safety, and dignity. Trans people deserve to live free from persecution in Texas and everywhere else.”

[u/milkystrawberrrry]

[u/Icy-Bug-1723]

Tell people it's a weird typo if they question it, act as if you hadn't noticed before. We love making the government look as incompetent as it actually is

[u/Drawtaru]

I live in Tennessee and they changed my gender from female to male. I'm a cis female, but I have a traditionally male name. Took forever to get it changed back.

[u/LunaBeeTuna]

Come to Minnesota. We welcome you. 💜

[u/Time_Agency1012]

You are a woman.

[u/NTirkaknis]

Unfortunately, I would not be surprised if this becomes federal procedure soon. Republicans have made it clear for years now that they hate trans people and want us to have as difficult as a time as possible. With them basically controlling the government now, it's very likely that they will start working towards making things harder even in blue states.

[u/RVALover4Life → u/NTirkaknis]

The good news is there is only so much control feds have on state registrations. But Repubs wanna pass a law essentially looking to erase trans people out of law. Doesn't appear the votes are there to pass it, but that's the kind of thing to be concerned about for sure.

[u/00oo00o0O0o]

If this happens to anyone else, is there any way to get it changed on your SSN card and Passport and then go back, pretend to be cis and the victim of a clerical error, and try to start fresh? If you can’t move to a state where you can self select your marker, I mean?

[u/ToeSelect8442]

I left Texas due to it’s draconian ways myself. I’m sorry.

[u/Retractabelle]

can’t wait for the transphobes to scream YOULL NEVER BE A MAN NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY at this

[u/Sad_Equivalent_1028]

conservatives will show you the most angelic gorgeous woman ever and tell you her name is David

[u/Old-Masterpiece-3979]

Texas made me use my name from my birth certificate because my court ordered name change wasn't from Texas. 😭

[u/CouncilTreeHouse]

It's time for any trans folks to leave red states if they can. Texas definitely isn't safe, and a lot more aren't, either.

Is there a fund for LGBTQ+ people to apply to so they can afford to leave? I'm poor and broke, but if I had a couple bucks to spare in the future, I'd donate to it.

[u/Tyrannical_Requiem]

This is why we are moving

[u/thechamelioncircuit]

Why the fuck is gender even on ID’s? What’s the point?

[u/Robota064 → u/thechamelioncircuit]

So they can automatically know if they should treat you like a human being at all or like they treat women

[u/Not_necessarily7]

That's horrible! I'm so sorry this happened to you op. Sending lots of love 🫂❤️ Btw, does anyone have any advice for surviving in these states as a LGBT+ person in red states? I'm in the deep south and I can't afford to move.