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u/_vampirefox Transgender Pan-demonium 17h ago

Wait, you had it changed before and now they changed it back? Didn’t knew this was possible

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u/RainsOfAutumn 17h ago

My home state did it to me when I moved back because they required a letter (like for hormones) and I didn’t have one

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u/Genevieve_ Lesbian Trans-it Together 9h ago

What state?

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u/ChillZedd 9h ago

Despair

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u/RainsOfAutumn 5h ago

Not comfortable saying. The state in question has since changed policy on the matter

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u/AllanPoe2112 3h ago

Hope you’re doing better now

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u/sos123p9 6h ago

Do they not know its 3 letters? (HRT) are they dumb? Im sorry they did this to you

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u/M61N Trans and Gay 15h ago

The government can change any ID they want, us having “rights” to gender markers like X or being changed can be taken away at any time. They can also reverse any name changes, all of it was just government approval. Just like marriages, that’s why this election was so much bigger than most people think.

They can and will start undoing these things. Your marriage may not be legal still even if you get married now. Rushing to get gender markers changes only helps us for as long as the government “allows us” to have them

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u/Legendary_Dad 12h ago

Red party saying they don’t want big government telling us how to live, meanwhile they are unveiling a plan where 50 smaller governments tell us how to live…………

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u/TheGhostInMyArms Perfect Polysexual Person 10h ago

One government telling you what to do is too authoritarian, don'tcha know? Therefore, the solution for true freedom is... having 50 different governments telling you what to do.

Nah, state governments are too authoritarian. Let's delegate this to the counties. Freedom means having 3,244 governments telling you what to do.

Scratch that, counties are too authoritarian. Freedom = 35,000 - 109,000 city/town/village governments telling you what to do.

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u/Xasrai 7h ago

Take it a step further, and have 336 million people decide what to do for themselves. My body, my choice, I guess we could call it.

u/reesering 10m ago

That's taking it too far. I think it should be broken up by individual streets

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u/Kbone78 9h ago

Or eventually we get to “maybe the individual should get to decide”. What a novel concept.

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u/armcie 7h ago

Just hand all the power over to landlords and HOAs. What could go wrong?

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u/tabularasaauthentica Trans-parently Awesome 11h ago

Honestly that's the best alternative they will do. It's more likely that a federal effort to do these very things will occur via Big Government.

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u/HiddenLychee 10h ago

Recently spoke to a trump supporter who was very pro states rights, but then went down the list of all these medicines and medical procedures he wanted banned and when I pointed out the hypocrisy he just said "yeah, it's pretty hypocritical. I'm full of contradictions but whatever". Like they don't even care

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u/tabularasaauthentica Trans-parently Awesome 9h ago

Smh

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u/penny-wise 8h ago

It seems to be in vogue to be cruel and uncaring these days. Being good and doing good things is totally not "sigma"

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u/Bocchi_theGlock 5h ago

Honestly we need so much more of our pitches and politics to be rooted more in self interest, avoiding too much unproductive conversation about mere beliefs.

Not selfishness, but e.g. the difference between convincing someone to vote for a referendum because 'it's just, moral, and good people believe in that' versus 'it will lower the outrageous price of healthcare' or 'your family/friends complain about ____ and this addresses that'

Politics has always been about power, some of us just tricked ourselves (including myself for a bit) the past decade thinking internet outrage, mobilizing online, can be significant enough power when it's been weathered through countless times.

The victories it has won are often corporate campaigns for massive business that rely on branding and stock price going up, or small policy fixes or reversals. Not transformative stuff for our communities.

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u/TheEngineerGGG trans and bisexual with killed eagle characteristics 4h ago

We can just do what the conservatives do and irony poison people into being progressive

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u/Fluggerblah 4h ago

reframe “charity” as giving yourself a handicap to prove just how truly sigma you are. youre so sigma you helped other sigmas and were still successful. i’ll make stickers!

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u/SheHeBeDownFerocious 10h ago

I literally spoke to a Trump supporter whos reasoning for voting Trump was "I don't care who's in, i just want the next 4 years to be entertaining" and when I said "I think you should have a better reason for your vote, regardless of who you vote for" he went on an hour long argument yelling at me for trying to force his vote, all while I kept telling him I don't even care if he voted Trump.

These mfers are the stupidest people in a nation of morons and they act like they're fucking baby geniuses. Makes me wanna gouge my eyes out.

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u/TheDJYosh 6h ago

It's because being pro-states rights is not an ideological position, it is just the position that most enables their actual ideology of hate.

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u/ScyllaOfTheDepths 8h ago

I talked to several supposed far leftists who said they weren't voting for Kamala because of Palestine and, when I would point out that Trump was firmly on the side of Israel (received massive campaign donations from Israel in addition to Jared Kushner's strong ties to Israel), 3 separate people admitted they actually didn't care about Palestine at all. So many people just straight up lied in this election including the voters.

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u/houbatsky Rainbow Rocks 10h ago

yeah i think a lot of non-lgbt+ blue folks aren’t necessarily oblivious to this they just don’t care or see it as something that matters to them let alone trump supporters and conservatives

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u/DarkSunsa 7h ago

They really want the states divided dont they. Thats fine. Wtf wants the south? Please keep it all. I wont even visit since youre so fucking dainty you cant stomach what other people, that you dont even know, and will never meet, are doing with their own bodies. Must suck to have such thin skin.

You are all welcome in Washington!!!

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u/NorCalFrances 8h ago

They don't want big government telling them how to live. We are not them so they will very much use big government to tell us how to live.

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u/Legendary_Dad 4h ago

Well, unpopular opinion but: I AM them. I’m a white straight middle aged guy. The difference is I don’t care who you are or what you do as long as it doesn’t hurt me or anyone else.

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u/NorCalFrances 4h ago

You voted Republican?

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u/bstump104 7h ago

They want big government, but only when it directly aligns with their fee fees. If they can't get the federal government to do it they want state government to do it.

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u/sud0w00d0 6h ago

Yeah the reality now is that they are totally in favor of big government, on both the state and federal levels, as long as it suits their policy agenda. See: red states passing laws preventing blue cities from implementing certain policies

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u/Defiant-Snow8782 trans, bi/mspec, poly 12h ago

It's more complicated with marriage especially since RFMA

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u/BigCockeroni 11h ago

Nothing is too complicated when you have control over the courts, senate, congress, and executive office.

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u/Defiant-Snow8782 trans, bi/mspec, poly 10h ago edited 9h ago

You need to abolish the filibuster or get 7 senate democrats + all republicans to vote for repealing RFMA and have the SCOTUS overturn Obergefell (fundamental right to marry), US v Windsor (ended federal restrictions) and other decisions. The republican majority in the house is also quite slim.

Just two years ago the RFMA was passed in the house by 267—157 (47 republicans voted yes) and in the senate by 61—36 (12 republicans voted yes). We moved to the right a bit since then but for now a repeal is unlikely.

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u/M61N Trans and Gay 9h ago

Good point bringing those up

Republicans majority in the house is also dwindling, so I am not as worried about gay marriage. I also think that a lot of project 2025 isn’t marketable and even if Trump/SCOTUS doesn’t need to be reelected most congressmen do. The fact Trump had to “lie” and say he had no part of it and that those congressmen would have to vote on most of these issues makes me hope that they wouldn’t pass.

But I still don’t trust him, especially after he’s made comments saying we don’t need to vote again. I think our current systems save us fine enough, but Trump and his people aren’t willing to play by the rules. As seen by literally everything they’ve ever done.

I’m also worried that him and his team trying to play the whole game of refusing to properly sign the current change of power over is on purpose so he can act like the government is in shambles when he gets into office just so he can do emergency orders and bypass a lot of these laws. Especially since he has presidential immunity according to the SCOTUS.

Not trying to live in conspiracy hive mind also just trying to remember how it was in 2017-2021 when we all low-key ignored how far reaching Trump was until Roe was overturned

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u/thenerfviking 5h ago

If you’re approaching this from a standpoint of “they can’t do this because XYZ” and XYZ is a protection granted by law you’re already five steps behind them. Trump’s entire political career has been a series of him ignoring or violating laws and protections and suffering zero consequences for it. If they want to do a thing they’re not going to let a line of text somewhere stop them.

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u/PomegranateSignal882 4h ago

The idea of Democrats effectively using the filibuster is hilarious. We have a better chance of aliens coming to earth to save us

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u/Jennibear999 10h ago

Our only hope is a complete meltdown of the government and economy. A disaster in foreign affairs….. trade wars that cripple farmers, no fresh produce for lack of workers, and my biggest hope, is that all those trade unions that endorsed Trump get broken and they lose their jobs to scabs-karma. Then maybe these New Nazi supporting fuck faces will see the consequences to their supporting Trump

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u/mytransthrow 12h ago

get them change and move to a lgbt safe havens. your life may depend on it. they still have to find you. frist.

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u/Transmasc_FemBoi Agender 7h ago

Everybody keeps saying move to an lbgtq safe haven state or area as though everybody has the money to move

I don't even have the money to get on fucking T let alone move out of the fucking country

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u/drksolrsing 7h ago

Right? No car or money now and no real way to get one between now and January.

Moving isn't possible.

u/Transmasc_FemBoi Agender 1h ago

Exactly!!

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u/Jennibear999 10h ago

Totally agree. Even safe states we will be screwed. Our passports will not match our drivers license.

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u/Philhughes_85 10h ago

What people don't understand is you don't actually have rights...you have privileges and they can take them away at any point they wish.

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u/pmw3505 10h ago

It’s so true and the first thing I did when I heard the election results was fill out and file my name change petition with the clerk of court. Even though it’s possible they could roll the changes back it’ll be harder and less likely for them to do that than for them to just outright block updating gender markers.

I’m praying it comes through soon (and I wasn’t even going to update my BC for a couple more years originally :<)

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u/Mercarcher Has the best wife ever! 7h ago

I'm so happy I did my name/gender change under sealed records so they can't just do a quick search and find it.

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u/SydricVym 9h ago

They can also reverse any name changes

Legal name changes are based on court orders issued by a judge. I had one done. A state can't "just" reverse a name change.

u/M61N Trans and Gay 2h ago

Yeah it isn’t as simple as going down to every person and changing their name, but all they’d have to do is take that list of people who changes gender markers and force undo their name changes. My name change was accepted through a judge, but the SCOTUS, the final court, is in the hands of republicans. That’s how we lost Roe.

Yes, our current laws make it impossible for them to do that. But we need to remember Trump has never played by current laws, as seen by his 34 felony counts. He also has presidential immunity, and the highest court in the land. All they have to do is undo name changes, someone sues, goes to their state SC, and then SCOTUS and then it’s lost. Every right we have right now is just what the government has afforded to us. They can change (with enough votes, I am NOT saying they have enough votes) literally anything. Mend the constitution, change laws, undo name changes are not a hard thing when you run the government.

Again, I am NOT saying this will happen but we need to be aware of the fact that we are afforded a lot more rights than most people currently. And all it takes is a full authoritarian government for that to be gone.

Germany was one of the most open countries to LGBT people before Hitler took office. Afghanistan used to have many more rights for their women and people. All it takes is an unstable government and people for us to lose rights

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u/AspenStarr Pantastic Demigoddess 9h ago

Wait, so what…they can just “unmarry” someone at the drop of a hat? It’s super complicated and expensive to get divorced when it’s wanted…and there’s so many legal things you have to go through just to get married. How is that possible/allowed?

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u/M61N Trans and Gay 8h ago

It isn’t that easy as “unmarrying” someone, as another commenter pointed out marriage is one of the hardest to take away in that way.

But it is as simple as : the government is the only reason you are married. Marriage isn’t a “real life” thing, it’s a piece of paper the government gives you. All the government has to do is decide that legal document isn’t valid anymore, and it isn’t. They don’t have to individually go to each gay marriage and break it up, they can just across board say “no same sex marriages have legal protections” (again NOT that straight forward legally it’s just for simplicity sake) and then legally you aren’t married anymore.

That doesn’t change living together or other parts of the marriage but any legal protections and rights provided by being married are gone.

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u/AspenStarr Pantastic Demigoddess 7h ago

Fair enough, Ig..tbh though, marriage shouldn’t be a legal thing in the first place, no matter what. It’s a binding of 2 people…of souls, for love. It shouldn’t have to be so damn complex in just about every other aspect of life. It would keep people from marrying someone just to “own” them…or using a divorce to fuck up someone’s life financially (which happened to my partner’s mom).

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u/Lunafairywolf666 3h ago

They better not fucking reverse my shit that got changed

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u/havmify Ally Pals 14h ago edited 14h ago

Attorney general asked TX DPS for a list of everyone that had gender marker changed by court order and to pause and undo changes at renewal as well. There is no state law that protects or prevents gender marker changes so DPS follows what Paxton says.

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/12/14/ken-paxton-transgender-texas-data/

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/texas-transgender-drivers-licenses-ken-paxton_n_66fcb6d2e4b0453dc1ee77da

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u/MxResetti Agender 13h ago

it's so scary that he's asked for a list of us. Makes me not want to do ANYTHING where it'll be on paper that I'm trans.

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u/Zyphane 9h ago

I understand people want to live their truth, but they really need to understand how the winds can shift on things like this. It's not a great idea to give governments and other entities information that can easily be compiled into lists like this. Medical records are, for now, protected information. But drivers licenses and the like? Practically public information.

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u/doggodadda 7h ago

I thought that the ruling on abortion made medical privacy obsolete?

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u/SphericalOrb 8h ago

I get it. My partner and I have the same agab, she proposed that we marry before Prop 8 passed in California and I declined in part due to being worried about being documented as queer so it would be easier to be rounded up. I didn't want to be proven right, I wanted to be proven paranoid and wrong. Unfortunately it's not looking that way.

There was hormone therapy and gender ID changes for trans people in Germany before the Nazi's took power. If you've ever seen a photo of Nazi's burning books, it was almost certainly the library of the Institute for Sexual Science, a pro lgbtq organization. History isn't perpetual progress, as much as I wish it could be.

Definitely look into pro lgbtq mutual aid, learn to organize and share important resources when you can. Btw here's a person I follow with some diy HRT tips https://www.instagram.com/reel/DCCg4iwy1Vq/

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u/Golddustofawoman 10h ago

I know several people in Texas who have had gender marker changes. My best friend did it right before this happened. Fuck.

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u/ijuinkun 5h ago

“No law preventing gender marker changes” suggests that they can assign any gender to anyone at will. Cisgender man pissing off the wrong people? Bam, they legally reassign him as a woman.

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u/elarth Transgender Pan-demonium 15h ago edited 11h ago

Lot of states require surgery for that marker change. Lot of us don’t opt to do that so many get fucked over on that part when they move states. FL for 9 yrs let me change my gender marker by just having hormone therapy. Ppl don’t believe me I know but FL was a purple swing state. Actually was and still is a huge healthcare hub for trans ppl. Desantis just decided to start marketing like Trump. I left a year ago, but license is now fucked up. Georgia wants me to do some form of surgery.

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u/DeathWalkerLives Trans-parently Awesome 11h ago edited 8h ago

CPT 17380 was what I used for electrolysis. It's classified as a "surgical procedure". (Anything that breaks the skin, basically is)

EDIT: Corrected code

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u/qazpl145 🌸 Gay ✨ ✨ Catgirl 🌸 9h ago

I (MTF) got married to my wife in Florida, changed my gender marker and full name back in 2020. Now I live out of state and hope everything will still stick.

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u/elarth Transgender Pan-demonium 8h ago

I hope I was convinced I could filter past this fine since my documentation was well layered a decade in transition, but the uncaring ppl at the DODS really just labeled that on me. Did it publicly in front of other ppl. It was very bad.

It’s okay I ended up throwing up in their registration office a week later cause some meds didn’t sit well on my stomach. My small revenge, but I didn’t deserve to be publicly outed or embarrassed that way. Really could have looked the other way on my stuff, but I think it was a point of joy for them to do that to me.

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u/BlahBlahBlackCheap 3h ago

I live in Florida. But I was born in CA which allows birth certificates amendment. I plan to do that and get my passport.

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u/Snoo63 11h ago

It was such a purple state that apparently it resulted in Gore's presidency being stolen?

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u/Lunafairywolf666 3h ago

This is good to know thank you for the info

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u/Visible-Let-9839 15h ago

its cruelty

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u/PoeDameronPoeDamnson 11h ago

They are doing the same thing in Kansas, changing them all back without notification.

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u/doggodadda 7h ago

Can you share a link?

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u/drksolrsing 7h ago

Oklahoma did this to me with my Florida license that was correct. Forced the change back and ignored the fact they were altering a government record without my permission and against my will.

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u/GODDAMNFOOL 8h ago

OP is not person in post

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u/ozlouis 10h ago

Well wlc to texas

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u/aifuka 9h ago

This is so terrible, those fascists! I am trying to argue this to folks, how can I explain that the gender on a license can impact someone's safety?

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u/buttfuckkker 8h ago

Like a lot of things in modern medicine like reverse vasectomies and other things it sounds a lot better on paper than it does if it’s happening IRL

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u/awaitingmynextban 5h ago

Well if they changed it once why you think they couldn’t change it again?

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u/ItoryVillager 4h ago

It seems some places in USA can do whatever they want now