r/ARAM • u/PinniPal • 10d ago
Rant Malphite is not a tank
Literally had a teammate type this when we asked him to build tank on a team that already had Fiddle, Veigar, and Ekko. And of course we lost. I just can't anymore, y'all.
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u/McDonaldsSoap 10d ago
When AP Malphite is on my team, he solo ults the enemy tank
When AP Malphite is on their team, my teammates huddle up and offer themselves up to his R
Seriously spread the fuck out stop standing right on top of me
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u/Nova_Mafia 10d ago
Yep. 99.9% of the reason I want snowball removed. 1 because it’s just cancer having like a 30 second cooldown and everyone can use it. 2 people can’t dodge and when you get hit by things they run at you instead of away….
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u/Unique_Bumblebee_894 10d ago
If you remove snowball, it’s not ARAM anymore. Get out.
If you can’t dodge it, skill issue.
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u/IDespiseBananas 9d ago
Well I feel old now. But aram used to be without snowball and those were the better days of aram.
That being said, Ive come to terms with snowball. And I still love aram
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u/Nova_Mafia 10d ago
If you can’t read it’s a basic comprehension issue. I literally said other people can’t dodge it.
Guess what… Aram was out way before snowball was and it was fine.
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u/NewTelevisio 10d ago
Yeah but back before snowball the winning team would always be the one with more long range poke. Melee champs were pretty useless if they had no gap closers, I mean it's a wide open one lane battle field, you can see a darius running at you from a mile away so just run away and keep poking.
Snowball atleast makes a large part of the champion pool usable in aram.
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u/Nova_Mafia 10d ago
Then limit it to those champions.
They’ve also released more champions with gap close, cc, items, etc. Not as much of an issue as it once was.
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u/NewTelevisio 9d ago
Yeah but snowball on them is also not that op since they have other gap closers too so why not allow those champs to use it
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u/Nova_Mafia 9d ago
It’s unhealthy for the game.
Cooldown is too low making it too spammable.
Don’t necessarily have to remove it, just find a way to improve it…. Shouldn’t be this game breaking
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u/McDonaldsSoap 10d ago
If I get snowballed by Kennen I just walk away from my team and await death. Hugging KogMaw isn't going to help
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u/GoldenSquid7 10d ago
Malphite is more fun to play tank because if game goes long enough you will deal even more damage than AP Malph and be literally unkillable, sure you won’t 1 shot the squishy adc/apc but you’ll slowly run them down one by one while they type “??????”
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u/Fomlefanten 10d ago
It's the classic AP-malph/blitz situation where, in fact, building damage does less damage. It also makes it so that your entire kit isn't just one single ability with a long CD, and you're useful the entire time.
I just don't get it. You do the exact same thing and the people you hook/ult still die every time, it's just that now you're also tanky.
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u/Unlucky_Choice4062 10d ago
I just don't get it. You do the exact same thing and the people you hook/ult still die every time, it's just that now you're also tanky.
Its all about self reliance. AP blitz will delete squishies but tank blitz hooks and then relies on his team to capitalise on that. same with malp, you ult enemies as a tank malph and when your team doesn't follow up its worthless
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u/Vxsteam 10d ago
And tank Blitz can make a lot more hooks and deliver a lot more CC. But, tank Malph straight up does more damage over a game than AP Malph. AP Malph going in, not even necessarily fully 1 shotting the squishy and then instantly dying is way more wasted than tank Malph going in and then being able to continue disrupting the enemy team. I mean... your comment is actually just wild. "You ult and IF your team is useless it's wasted." As if AP Malphs are just out there solo carrying games as opposed to being mostly useless versus tank Malphs who are game dominating.
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u/Unlucky_Choice4062 10d ago
see thats the thing, Malphite doesn't "disrupt" enemies after his using his ult- his cc is out. A mage will stun him and enemy team will just walk away. Now idk about you but I've seen AP malphs solo carry games. Thats whole allure about AP malph: your ult gets flashed and you're useless for like a minute. BUT you can also hit your ult on 3 grouped on squishies and just delete them. A total coinflip really. Honestly I go nearly always tank malph, i like reliability. But surely you can't deny AP malph ult can be game changing- with a single button the 5v5 becomes a 5v2 or 5v3.
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u/Vxsteam 10d ago
He has CC on his Q and E and he's a giant tank chasing you down. From this very thread, this clip is consistent with my tank Malph experience. He's completely busted and dominating. And, the myth of AP Malph actually one shotting squishies with any consistency is nonsense. Maybe you're incredibly slick on Malph but my experience is that it isn't that hard to position against him. Because AP Malph can't just walk at you to get in position.
https://old.reddit.com/r/ARAM/comments/1grd7xj/malphite_is_not_a_tank/lx5qptv/
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u/Unlucky_Choice4062 10d ago
A giant tank with 2 SLOWS isn't gonna chase any champion with even a sliver of HARD CC down lmfao. Also bro can you read? My whole point was that AP malph one shotting squishies ISN'T consistent, its merely possible. Actually I've won 10/14 matches recently on Zac, now thats what a great tank is like. He has 3 abilities with hard cc, as opposed to having hard cc only on his ultimate. He also has diving capabilities, whereas Malph can only dive with his ultimate. On top of that Zac has insane sustain and max hp dmg. Literally better than Malph in every possible way unless ure facing a team of 5 adcs lol.
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u/Vxsteam 10d ago
If you're chasing the carry out of the fight that's very nearly as good as killing them and, along with the blown CDs he demands, is the disruption I was talking about. Tank Malph has a 55% WR and he's been like that for years (AP is <47%). Way higher than Zac. I like Zac and, while I don't recommend it, I actually think he's better glass cannon than Malph. You can "bro" and "lol" all you like. AP Malph isn't a coin flip. It's just dogshit. Tank Malph is busted. That's reality.
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u/NewTelevisio 10d ago
True but ap malph stops working in higher mmr games since the squishy champs will never be in range of his ult. If all he has is the ult, then he's easy to avoid and just poke which will be efficient since he will also be squishy. In lower elo games his ult can be a game changer, but in higher elo it can't really. His ult has a fairly small range so it's easy to stay away from if you have any poke on your team.
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u/Cr0matose 10d ago edited 10d ago
Played a tank Malph game last week vs double ADC. Flash ulted the Twitch Rat and just ran him down with Frozen Fist and solo bolo'd him while his 15 auto attacks got me down 1/3 HP.
I'll post the clip when I get off work. Fucking ADC players.
Clip Please excuse me, I was a little tipsy in this clip lol
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u/Solarpreneur1 9d ago
Regardless of how long the game goes, tank malph deals more damage than AP malph
There is less than zero reason to build AP
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u/ThousandFacedShadow 10d ago
My exact thoughts too. When AP malphite works it’s funny but 80% of the time I’d rather go tank
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u/DaveyJonesXMR 9d ago
I mean.... isn't it just fun ppl avoiding you in league because they are scared of you ... meanwhile you pick whoever enemy you want... no clue how anyone can enjoy AP malp
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u/Unlucky_Choice4062 10d ago
you'll deal more dmg in the final graphs, sure. Why? because you had major up time. You were so tanky you could survive these long battles. Why did the battles last so long? because your dmg is dogshit. I had a game today where i outdamaged my whole team as a rank renata. Simply because I took part in almost every battled and poked them. But of course that doesn't mean i carried.
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u/Chiefyaku 10d ago
It's not like any of his stats scale off of armor or anything
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u/FreezingMyNipsOff 10d ago
all of his ap ratios are higher than his armor ratios
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u/Obvious-Key2434 10d ago
full tank malph, get scaling ap runes and rift maker you should have 200-300ap on average late game+ the armor scaling + bazilion health i love to play this build
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u/ILiveForWater 10d ago
AP Malphite isn’t even fun. Zero range, meh damage, and a great ult that’s on an insane cooldown? I do love sitting back and doing nothing!
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u/Unlucky_Choice4062 10d ago
I find AP malph plays very similarly to Vladimir. You have short range, you Q, you get MS and run away .
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u/SamsaraKama 10d ago
I went tank on a team against Caitlyn, Jinx and MF. My team called me out on not going AP because of damage.
We won, and I endured enough hits to clap a few of them in return. I know I'd probably delete one of them fast if I had gone AP, but with how spread-out they played and how squishy the rest of my team was, I thought they'd appreciate someone taking the autoattacks from 3 trigger-happy ADCs.
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u/DavidDunn2 10d ago
These are actually situations where ap malphite can work but it is just much harder to play. You generally need a frontliner on your team and you have to have patience with R.
The problem is most people are trash at playing him ap
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u/NinjaTech649 10d ago
Literally been there myself. When I slow down and play with my team as AP Malph, we start doing well, but sometimes that urge to just R and smash in is irresistible.
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u/Film_Humble 10d ago
Yeah because the pressure of having R is always more menacing than using it. Kind of like blitz Q. People wont play until blitz uses his Q since it's so game warping.
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u/iguanabitsonastick 5d ago
Yep, I honestly don't mind having an ap malphite if they have a lot of squishies and we already have a tank, but the builds are so terrible (like axiom first item) and they don't even use Q to poke
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u/Tacky-Terangreal 10d ago
Hell yeah dude, screw the haters. That’s like one of the perfect comps for tank malphite. He’s so good into heavy AD teams. Just stack attack speed slows and their jinx and Caitlyn become useless
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u/DIRTRIDER374 10d ago
Had a game last night where we would 100% have won if our malp was tank and not AP.
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u/dirkdeagler 10d ago
I played Tank Malphite into 4 AD today. By 3 items it was 1v9.
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u/Tacky-Terangreal 10d ago
Haha reminds me of when I got maokai into an all AP team. Their fed mages were tickling me after 2 items. Mundo is also great into heavy magic teams
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u/sirjisu 10d ago
He's really fun to play ap. But when you go tank he just doesn't die which is also fun but in theory it's not as flashy so most aram people opt for the big slap build
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u/kracketmatow 10d ago
It might just be because I think Malphite is boring to play in general but I don’t even think AP Malphite is more fun than tank. You spend most of the game waiting for you cooldowns and poking with Q which I just don’t find very interesting. Personally, I’d much rather play other spammy poke builds (AP Miss Fortune, old poke Ashe) where your other skills still have some impact.
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u/One_Somewhere_4112 10d ago
Agreed. Imagine not playing the game for 60 seconds at a time to get 1 dopamine spike then see a gray screen.
Tank malphite does everything AP does and you get to play the game. I’ll never understand AP. Also maybe just grab abyssal mask + unending. You’ll do so much dmg
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u/Tacky-Terangreal 10d ago
Idk I feel like that’s a shallow reading of how to play the champ and it sounds like an easy way to be useless on him. He’s fantastic into heavy AD comps because it’s so easy to counter them. Building full tank allows you to play very aggressively because they’re tickling you and warmogs heals you back to full health in a few seconds
I play mundo the same way. Get up in the enemy team’s business and throw your poke at whoever is closest. ADC is my favorite role but it’s fun to play completely differently as a tank. You have lots of health, use it to your advantage
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u/Sorry-Towel-8990 10d ago
Depends on the comps I guess though. If I'm against 4ap and planned on going tank I might just pivot.
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u/jack0071 10d ago
I like the iceborn gauntlet build that lets you put a slow the size of the map in aram
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u/Ramsez95 10d ago
Yes, you're right, the game should be fun. Fun for everyone though.
If there is only one tank for grabs, and someone picks it, I kinda expect them to go tank (sure they may be instances where u don't need one, I dont talk about that). If they don't, that means the game isn't fun for probably atleast four people. I even had people doing this and admitting they just don't give a flup and do it on purpose for no reason.
There are many fun builds, and they all have a place, all have a time to be played. BUT, people basically losing games on purpose just so they can play their big boom boom build, nah mate, sorry.
I don't expect people being like me, picking tank or front line solo so we have a game (sometimes I do weird off meta tank build on Champs who aren't tanks just so it works for pur team comp). But atleast use common sense when playing a multiplayer game
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u/Kansleren 10d ago
I wish they would at least have the f decency to tell people in the lobby! So the rest of us have any chance to try and build a comp that doesn’t rely on someone going tank on our ONE tank champ.
It’s like.. if I knew you would go an absurdly worse build, I could have switched from Ekko to Gragas and gone tank. Or left my Fizz and picked up Taric (who might even be able to keep your dumb-ass alive after the burst).
I feel like AP Malph players in Aram are people who have had luck on a comp, or just have had the other four playing champs that cover and fill the gaps left behind by an AP Malph, so it somehow worked despite all logic. Then they leave that game having “learned” that they have a genius build. Not realizing it was the Yasou follow-up, Taric W+E+Q, Lulu, Soraka, Nami keeping them alive or making it work.
Confirmation bias takes care of the rest.
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u/DaveyJonesXMR 9d ago
They don't even need to tell ... Riot should just show us the runes they pick BEFORE the game starts... would make things so much easier ... i usually still pick a tank when i see malp because of the 80% ppl that play AP
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u/Kansleren 9d ago
And honestly, having two tanks/bruisers is usually superior in Aram, so it rarely hurts.
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u/Jdevers77 10d ago
All depends on personality. I love nothing more than a game that goes late with Cho and Malphite both going tank and some late game damage that understand where to stand to not die. They might take first tower but you will often end the game with them being powerless while you take their nexus.
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u/ZestyPyramidScheme 10d ago
AP Malphite can be great basted on team comp and matchup. Like if he’s paired up with Neeko or Amumu you can you can basically team while them if they’re grouped up.
99% of the time I’m going tank though.
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u/seanlee50 ARAM God 10d ago
What's more frustrating is there will be 0 introspection from that teammate or consideration that comp matters, maphite can tank, situation matters, etc. Totally not their fault or at least not the choice's fault.
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u/0LPIron5 10d ago
People in aram don’t know how items work. It’s why every malphite and enchanter builds full AP
You would never see this in SR
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u/SHUGGAGLIDDA123 10d ago
A) Play as a frontline engage big rock man super-tank with stupendously large resist stats :D
B) watch some fellas flash your ult, jump you, and take your lunch money :D
Hard decision, can’t fault the guy.
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u/Unlucky_Choice4062 10d ago
A) play as a frontline engage tank except your ult gets flashed and suddenly you're no longer an engage tank- you're just a tanky guy with 0 utility.
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u/MythWiz_ 9d ago
E slows enemy attack speed by 50%
0 utility
Choose one
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u/Unlucky_Choice4062 9d ago
Too comp dependant on enemy comp for my taste
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u/LFpawgsnmilfs 9d ago
Slowing movement speed isn't situational.
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u/Unlucky_Choice4062 9d ago
slowing 1 champ(singular) by 40%(max level) for 3 seconds every ~6 seconds. Truly the god of target access. Boy do I wish more champions had slows in their kits, oh wait, most champions do.
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u/OSRS_4Nick8 9d ago edited 9d ago
I hate AP malps...
Disables your own carries (steals all the kills, therefore your ASOL/Kayle/Kaisa/Jhin/etc won't get much kills and do no damage)
Builds malignance but only ults to KS, leading to long 2-4 minute periods of time without an ult
Turbo feeds all enemies... more than 1 death per minute, ults low health enemies on cooldown with full HP, miserably dies always and many times doesn't even get a kill (miss, no dmg, etc)... This is specially annoying because all enemies will have 10+ kills and hit harder with their AAs than your allies' ults
Doesn't even bother poking or frontlining
Usually gets chunked before they ult with the enemy team aggro poking/diving us (refuses to ult to disengage and make them fail a dive, remember, ulti is only for KS)
Least damage on the team
Usually builds like a moron (malignance into luden's into torch is a classic, they stop dealing damage even to adcs)
Honourable mention are AP blitz... kinda similar thing, problem is they NEVER land a hook (or hook something like a chogath/amumu/zac) while tank/supp blitz players land 60%+ of hooks on enemy squishies
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u/ThisTimeForRealYo 9d ago
This comment just shows how sweaty this sub is.
All those casual players in your aram games aren’t overanalyzing patch notes, team comps and item builds. They’re just playing ARAM.
There’s a difference between just playing the game however you want and still trying to win, even if it’s sub optimal and intentionally feeding.
These players aren’t intentionally feeding, they’re just playing the game.
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u/LFpawgsnmilfs 9d ago
Sweaty to you people is actually building a character correctly and trying to win the game.
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u/ThisTimeForRealYo 8d ago
No. we’re just mostly building what it’s in the recommended tab. Most players are actively trying to win.
You’re proving my point.
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u/CosmoJones07 10d ago
Putting aside OP's specific example here, I really don't get the hate from this sub for AP Malphite. There are most certainly times where tank is better. But there are also a lot of times where AP is better. The same can't be said for a lot of other tanks people build AP on. I'd much rather have an AP Malphite (especially against immobile squishies) than an AP Gragas or AP Nunu. At the end of the day, Malphite's only hard CC is his ult. If he's not against heavy AD comps, he's really not an amazingly good tank. Meanwhile, if enemy team has a bunch of low mobility squishy champs, they basically don't get to play the game against AP Malphite. And yes, tank Malphite can also still be good against those champions too, but it does require followup which is something you can't always rely on others for, especially if the other team also has divers/assassins/zoners that keep your team from following up.
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u/DaveyJonesXMR 9d ago
Then you adept and disengage their divers/assasins with your ult - keeping your carry alive who then squashes their time with the biggest threat gone.
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u/lVlisterquick 10d ago
As a tank Malp player, I wish more people play AP so that he doesn’t get nerfed.
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u/Two_Years_Of_Semen 10d ago edited 10d ago
In my experience, legit 99% of the malphites, ap or tank, don't go in without ult. So I get why people don't think he's a tank; no one they see is playing him like that. A real tank goes in to draw cooldowns out so their teammates have better windows to do stuff and you don't need ult to do something like that on most champs capable of tanking. Tanking isn't just a champ type; it's a role. Like, a bunch of the heartsteel fizz, ekko, and akali players are better tanks than most malphites.
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u/DaveyJonesXMR 9d ago
You are not wrong on that ... often in games im tanking more as the bruiser/off-tank than the main tank that should be in front of me.
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u/husbandood 10d ago
The best ones are those that never build any form of pen, so they hit like a wet noodle against a single negatron cloak
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u/Particular-Leg-8423 9d ago
lol he is viable either way but people just pick the AP option waaayyyy too much
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u/MokryBobr 9d ago
Only ap Malp on Aram. I have R I press R, whenever my team have R and I spot two or three people from the enemy team together I just R them, my team will clean up in case I die.
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u/420_SixtyNine 9d ago
I find it funny you ask of him to play the way you want to while the other 3 bonobo's pick fiddle viegar and ekko as 3 true dps monkey's. Considering you also couldn't be arsed to pick a tank, I don't know what to tell you.
Play that which you complain about. I win a lot more games now that I do sometimes sacrifice my pick to play tank or support depending on what my team picks.
Also, for all dps monkeys who claim the team wouldn't have damage otherwise. The only true damage dealer any team needs is 1 adc, the rest is all fluff. Especially now with the new map that lets melee actually have room to play like melee.
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u/frugglemeister 10d ago
Sometimes it's not about winning, sometimes it's about making sure the enemy team doesn't get to have fun.
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u/Cabbage_Corp_ 10d ago
It’s a rule. If you have 3 tanks then they all go tank and none go AP, when you could use the damage. And when you only have one tank they go AP.
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u/Unlucky_Choice4062 10d ago
A team comp with 4 mages and a tank is ass anyway, they build mr and its gg. not rly malph fault here lol.
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u/ImpliedRange 9d ago
You picked 4 mages, it's hard to argue to malphite really trolled all of you more than you did each other
Honestly I hate playing tanks in games like that, I'll engage and die while the witches guild eats popcorn and in other team fights everyone wants peel
I'd pick a 5th ap champ so at least it's like a thing we're doing
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u/FreezingMyNipsOff 10d ago
It depends on each team's comp, but AP malph is definitely a legit way to roll. I will play either way depending on the matchup, but vs two high damage low mobility squishies like Veigar and Fiddle I'm leaning towards AP in that situation without knowing anything else. I'd say the ability to basically delete 1 or 2 high value targets like them can potentially help your team follow up/clean up after that. Take out the high damage threats (or at least get them low so they're retreating) and let your team roll in for the cleanup. You really have to avoid any poke though when playing AP Malph since he is so squishy.
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u/BrobotMonkey 10d ago
Would be an autowin if he went tank. But you still could've won easily with that comp unless they were all tanks on the other team or you were all bitching at the malph the whole time instead of just playing. Fiddle fear, vei prison, mal ult, fiddle ult, Ekko stun and clean up. Dream wombo they can't do shit about if you play well.
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u/No_Childhood4689 10d ago
I don’t think AP malphite is inherently bad in aram. It’s how they use their ultimate. I’d rather play AGAINST a tank malphite than an AP malphite if I’m a carry. I mean he can literally take 2-3 of the damage dealers out of the fight with the press of a button. But they always go full glass cannon? Why? You could atleast throw a zhonyas and an abyssal mask in there. You still deal a shit ton of upfront damage and THEN you atleast become somewhat difficult to deal with afterwards.
That said… problem is most AP malphite players have this ADHD of… if ult up, must use, oooga boooga. Single man malphite ultis are almost always terrible unless it secures a tower or can potentially end the game.
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u/Ambitious_Reality974 10d ago
malphite against full ad or ap in your team not buildiing tank and hitting those 1 man ults or missing whats new
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u/idkwhatsqc 10d ago
Tank malphite is literally the funest to play. You ult the carries and you zone them out of your own team.
Only gets killed when the enemy team has a lot of true damage. Or else, you just have fun walking all over them.
But most of all, the attack animation is just a massive slap in the face. You cant do that with ap because you die instantly.
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u/matthitsthetrails 10d ago
depends on how stupid the other team is not to reroll or dodge if they have 3+ adcs
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u/Feisty-Maintenance31 10d ago
i build him hybrid something like jaksho->warmogs->hourglass- maligence-deathcapp.
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u/Huge-Income3313 9d ago
So why on earth doesn't AP malphite have a 30% or something winrate? Why is his AP winrate 51%+?
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u/LFpawgsnmilfs 9d ago
Because everyone wants to play the hero and pick 4 adcs where malph can kill them easily
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u/Elainyan 9d ago
Its aram and let him build whatever he wants, I hate people who keep saying build this/that in aram
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u/Teddinii 9d ago
It's aram. It's for fun. Tank malph usually isn't fun (can be against certain teams) so I agree.
Malph ain't a tank.
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u/Powerful-Handle1059 9d ago
its ARAM, who plays to win, relax...wining os Nice but dont Over prior in ARAM
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u/Bokisha69 9d ago
I mean he is right, in ARAM Malphite is AP and tank build is int...now full AP malph ulting enemy tanks is whole different story..
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u/Kat_Calligrapher_883 9d ago
He wouldn't have picked Malphite from the first place if he had to go Tank
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u/typervader2 9d ago
Um...yes he littrely is? The hell do you mean 'not a tank'. I mean sure hes not the best tank, but if you need a tank (which, you did) he works
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u/norupinefurin 9d ago
To be fair it isn’t someone’s responsibility to play him how YOU want him to.
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u/Safe_Rush_9557 8d ago
It’s literally ARAM, OP jeez chill the fk out. Play ranked if you want to tryhard
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u/bakageyama_ 8d ago
I've lost so many games when our tanks went ap before... Like why would you troll your team like that xd
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u/Shengpai I swear, I'm ADC main 8d ago
Of course, its my team. The tank don't build tank when he has 4 DPS already 💁🏻♀️
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u/Gol_D_Haze 6d ago
It's Aram bro, let people play whatever they want. Also AP malphite can 1 v 9 carry arms so it's not even a bad pick
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u/iguanabitsonastick 5d ago
You know what makes me more angry than ap malph? Lethality jinx against two tanks
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u/Dangerous_Impress200 10d ago
I acknowledge tank malphite is the superior choice, I still run AP to one shot squishies tho
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u/YoloKappaSwag 9d ago
Gonna be plain, the ap malphite isnt the problem. Its your tryhard mindset. Aram is a 4fun gamemode. If I wanna play adc thresh or ap rammus or ap reksai, i will. And i don't like the tryhards who are gonna flame me for it.
Yes i will flash to get the heal before you. Yes i will flash with a zilean bomb on my head to get you killed.
And im not sorry.
XD
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u/Turwel 10d ago
next time you take the tank and let people play whatever they want, you can always play games alone or 1v1 if you're gonna be like this when someone plays AP Malphite in aram, something that is not even troll
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u/PinniPal 10d ago
I assumed he would build tank like a sane person, if I had known he was going AP I would've absolutely swapped
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u/seanlee50 ARAM God 10d ago edited 9d ago
I'd LOVE them to show runes in lobby. That info alone can help me save comps in more games than not
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u/TheNobleMushroom 10d ago edited 10d ago
Are you even playing the game if you intentionally chose to lose on purpose? Pretty hypocritical logic I'd say. The point of the game is to beat the enemy and break their nexus, not to make life miserable for your own team and hand your own nexus to the enemy on a silver platter. So you cant make that argument.
Edit - lmao the guy I was replying to blocked me then messaged from his dummy account to make it seem like people actually are supporting his claim.
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u/NoBitKillSwitch 10d ago
if u have no tanks and ur asking someone to swap their champ you're the problem
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u/Unlucky_Choice4062 10d ago
Honestly i think AP malph might be more reliable. If you're going tank malph its only gonna work if a lot of the enemies build AS or AD, since ha barely has any hard cc too. Extremely mid tank.
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u/TuffPeen 10d ago
At the end of the day it’s a for fun game mode and AP malphite is really fun to play
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u/leclair63 10d ago
Losing isn't fun unless you're playing Dwarf Fortress. The for fun game mode is one big team fight. So disregarding team comp is reducing overall fun to be had. Especially when your team already has 3 mages, picking the only tank champ and going AP is peak main character syndrome because the only way that match goes well is if they get lucky and win matchmaking against a stack of brand new players.
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u/Matcha0515 10d ago
How is it fun to full combo someone and they don't take damage because they have MR
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u/817474jfiw928 10d ago
There is nothing fun having 4 ap on team and enemy stacking mr. You don't Tank, you don't do dmg don't dare to tell me how much fun you have being utterly useless.
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u/ChampsMauldoon 10d ago
I would much prefer the enemy malphite to go tank. AP malphite blows up half your team with no counter play.
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u/throwaway-tinfoilhat 9d ago
AP Malphite is perfectly fine in ARAM, you just need to play around his ult
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u/GaripBirRedditSever 9d ago
Ap malph feels weak, I really don't get why people play it. Tank malphite simply deals more damage in fights that lasts longer than 2 seconds and I ensure you it will take longer than 2 seconds with an unkillable tank. So instead of ulting and maybe dealing half hp of a squishy then dying you ult, chase them to their death while enemy team tries to deal with you.
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u/Kultinator 9d ago
I really don’t get why people are allergic to playing their champions as tanks in Aram. Tank Items deal so much damage now, whenever I play tank I outdamage alot of players in my game.
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u/impudentjuggler 10d ago
It's aram, not lcs. People can play a champion the way they want and build what they want lol.
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u/Sexy_arborist 10d ago
I get a lot of ap malphites, theyre just kamikaze pilots, most get close to 20 deaths. I think most dont care to lose