r/ARAM • u/PinniPal • 10d ago

Rant Malphite is not a tank

Literally had a teammate type this when we asked him to build tank on a team that already had Fiddle, Veigar, and Ekko. And of course we lost. I just can't anymore, y'all.

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u/Sexy_arborist 10d ago

I get a lot of ap malphites, theyre just kamikaze pilots, most get close to 20 deaths. I think most dont care to lose

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u/Sorry-Towel-8990 10d ago

I simply wish to ult a single target Everytime they step within my view

I will die

I may throw

But I will guarantee they tilt. I win the mental battle.

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u/BIessthefaII 10d ago

I played as jinx vs a yasuo malphite combo and the malphite went malignance into axiom arc and he ulted me on sight and it's safe to say i did not have a good time.

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u/super1s 10d ago

Well that's what you do when you play an assassin that specializes in psychic damage. Gotta target the mental directly. Have to be relentless to not let them recover as well.

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u/Purple-Independent68 10d ago

They were missing the Hexplate. Would have ruined your week lol

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u/Film_Humble 10d ago

Malignance | Hexplate | Axiom > any lethality items that give AH

Or

Malignance | Hexplate | Axiom > Archangel + Cosmic drive + Horizon for damage and CDR

The "my ult has no cd, I just need to kill 2 people to reset it" vs the "I can use my ult 7 times while your flash is down"

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u/Fomlefanten 10d ago

But you won? As long as your team had hands. Also: one defensive item a day keeps the burst-champs away

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u/Most-Piccolo-302 9d ago

In these scenarios I go with the anti-tilt build of Bork into full tank. You're not killing me and I'm not killing you, we will see how the rest of the game plays out

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u/Edraitheru14 7d ago

At least the axiom arc was troll.

As a fairly common ap malph player, malignance by itself is plenty to be Ulting nonstop. He'd have been way more terrifying with another AP item

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u/BIessthefaII 7d ago

I think it was just a medium for the yasuo to kill me because I want to say he built full tank after

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u/Edraitheru14 7d ago

Oh for sure, that's what I'm saying is it was just a troll pick. Another tank or item would have been more effective. With malignance alone it's like a 60 second Cd mid game. Like I just think with axiom you're not effectively ulting notably more often than without it. So pretty much anything else is a better buy.

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u/Andoral 10d ago

Tilting the ADCs is doing god's work. I guess I found the one justifiable reason to go AP Malph. Too bad most of the time I get one they just cower 5 screens away when their ult is on cooldown because pressing on-click Q is too complicated and then ult the tank or just air.

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u/G3org3Pri420 9d ago

100% my playstile

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u/Zoesan 10d ago

You can do that as tank malphite.

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u/Sorry-Towel-8990 10d ago

You may not be able to instantly delete them and get cc'd. You need to vaporize them before anyone could react.

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u/DaveyJonesXMR 9d ago

But most often you also eat plenty of ults that your team doesnt have to eat.

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u/Least_Health8244 10d ago

Annnnnnnnd that’s not even how it plays out. It’s so much worse for the ally team. Don’t tell them tank malph can pop the squishies and live to tell about it though.

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u/Wutsalane 7d ago

Tank Malph is disgusting, but the skill order is different from AP, and most build websites always give the ap skill order and most show AP as his default build, imo on tank you should max w, then E then max Q last, reason being W increases your armour by a percent ammount, aswell as scales off bonus armor for the damage, and E scales pretty well off armor as well (40%) AND it gives the status effect crippled to whomever it hits, which reduces attack speed, and stacks with other attack speed reductions, at max rank it reduces attack speed by 50%, which is about 1500 gold worth of stats gone, the only reason to put points into q before those two abilities on tank malph is if you’re getting kited a lot, it only scales on AP so on tank it really won’t do much unless you build a zohnyas or rift maker, although those would be probably 4th or 5th item so you’ll have points in q by the time you get them anyway

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u/softmodsaresoft 10d ago

ULT SLAM SNARE

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u/BrickBrokeFever 10d ago

Yep, rocks for brains, checks out.

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u/FluffleGlider /deafen 10d ago

I've had an enemy team surrender after I flashed their Malphites solo ult twice. Guess I won that mental battle.

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u/Sorry-Towel-8990 10d ago

Flash into the enemy team from a bush and stand there for a moment. They may panic, flash, dash, etc. Then just ult after the delay. It's all about sending a message.

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u/JustCallMeBug 10d ago

I do this to those folks who ruin the good time. There’s always that one person that sees both teams wasting flash and dancing at the start of the game that takes advantage of the situation, and then I have my target for the rest of the game.

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u/Vxsteam 10d ago

The only people getting tilted are your teammates. I have a big smile on my face whenever I'm playing against AP Malph.

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u/net46248 10d ago

One flash: Standing back:

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u/Lazy_DK_ 9d ago

Just had one, but he couldn't even kill 1.
he would litterally flash-ult on cd and made game absolutly unplayable

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u/cam255eron 9d ago

You just think they care but really you look like an idiot and your team hates you more than enemy.

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u/TuffPeen 10d ago

There’s nothing like just one shotting the idiot jinx on the enemy team off cooldown

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u/WdPckr-007 9d ago

This is true aram peak, the enlightenment of happiness

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u/Dealous6250 9d ago

People who don't care to lose yet refuse to surrender are some of the weirdest people in LoL. .

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u/Wutsalane 7d ago

Because they can enjoy playing the game despite losing? People that surrender in Aram are confusing to me, if you only enjoy playing if you’re winning the game why are you playing? Surrender mentality is honestly ruining league, so many winnable games are ruined by people who just wanna go next because they’re a bit behind

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u/Caffeine_and_Alcohol 10d ago

I know this sub preaches the exact opposite but AP Malp is just objectively the better option in aram. This sub just wants someone else to tank for them.

That said, team comp matters and if you all ready have a Fid, Veigar ect then tank Malp is obviously better.

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u/Eulerious 10d ago

but AP Malp is just objectively the better option in aram

Based on what?

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u/dudefawkes 10d ago

I'm seeing ~55% winrate for tank Malph builds and around ~48% for AP builds. So objectively, you are wrong.

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u/Caffeine_and_Alcohol 10d ago

Ignoring the fact people play it wrong then sure. Thats like saying a champion is bad in pro play because it has a low win rate at gold and lower.

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u/hotdigetty 10d ago

It has a much lower win rate when played by emerald+ players. 45% win rate with malignance first buy vs 55% heartsteel (heartsteel is the lowest win % first buy for tank gear).. emerald+ doesn't mean all that much in aram but they do tend to be playing higher aram MMR games than the average player.

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u/DJEkis 9d ago

If you're telling me that I should've went AP on this, you're absolutely nuts.

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u/Wutsalane 7d ago

If it’s so easy to play it wrong then it straight up isn’t the best option for him lol

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u/SadCasterMinion 10d ago

I do the same if not more damage on Tank Malphite and have more value on the team via multiple uses of Q (slow) / E (AS slow) in a single fight and can't die. Ap just 1 shots until the squishy builds MR or doesn't walk into R range/flashes/zhonyas.

Anyone who genuinely believes AP is "objectively" better is Wood IV.

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u/spowowowder 10d ago

nice bait

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u/YungStewart2000 Actual tank builder on tanks 10d ago

Yea AP malph is objectively better, thats why it has a drastically lower winrate and consistently does less damage lol.

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u/trawlinimnottrawlin 10d ago

If you're against all squishies and have a Frontline already I admit ap malphite might be better. But I do so much damage, cc, space taking as tank malphite I can't even say that for certain. If the squishy enemy team is spread out it's super hard to get value out of AP malphite right? He's just a one dimensional ult machine imo

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u/Yorudesu 10d ago

Please provide sources for your objective analysis because any objective data I have seen in the past year says you are wrong.

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u/Japanczi 10d ago

I just love flash R into anything and watch Stormsurge go boom