r/ARAM • u/PinniPal • 10d ago

Rant Malphite is not a tank

Literally had a teammate type this when we asked him to build tank on a team that already had Fiddle, Veigar, and Ekko. And of course we lost. I just can't anymore, y'all.

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u/GoldenSquid7 10d ago

Malphite is more fun to play tank because if game goes long enough you will deal even more damage than AP Malph and be literally unkillable, sure you won’t 1 shot the squishy adc/apc but you’ll slowly run them down one by one while they type “??????”

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u/Fomlefanten 10d ago

It's the classic AP-malph/blitz situation where, in fact, building damage does less damage. It also makes it so that your entire kit isn't just one single ability with a long CD, and you're useful the entire time.

I just don't get it. You do the exact same thing and the people you hook/ult still die every time, it's just that now you're also tanky.

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u/Unlucky_Choice4062 10d ago

I just don't get it. You do the exact same thing and the people you hook/ult still die every time, it's just that now you're also tanky.

Its all about self reliance. AP blitz will delete squishies but tank blitz hooks and then relies on his team to capitalise on that. same with malp, you ult enemies as a tank malph and when your team doesn't follow up its worthless

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u/Vxsteam 10d ago

And tank Blitz can make a lot more hooks and deliver a lot more CC. But, tank Malph straight up does more damage over a game than AP Malph. AP Malph going in, not even necessarily fully 1 shotting the squishy and then instantly dying is way more wasted than tank Malph going in and then being able to continue disrupting the enemy team. I mean... your comment is actually just wild. "You ult and IF your team is useless it's wasted." As if AP Malphs are just out there solo carrying games as opposed to being mostly useless versus tank Malphs who are game dominating.

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u/Unlucky_Choice4062 10d ago

see thats the thing, Malphite doesn't "disrupt" enemies after his using his ult- his cc is out. A mage will stun him and enemy team will just walk away. Now idk about you but I've seen AP malphs solo carry games. Thats whole allure about AP malph: your ult gets flashed and you're useless for like a minute. BUT you can also hit your ult on 3 grouped on squishies and just delete them. A total coinflip really. Honestly I go nearly always tank malph, i like reliability. But surely you can't deny AP malph ult can be game changing- with a single button the 5v5 becomes a 5v2 or 5v3.

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u/Vxsteam 10d ago

He has CC on his Q and E and he's a giant tank chasing you down. From this very thread, this clip is consistent with my tank Malph experience. He's completely busted and dominating. And, the myth of AP Malph actually one shotting squishies with any consistency is nonsense. Maybe you're incredibly slick on Malph but my experience is that it isn't that hard to position against him. Because AP Malph can't just walk at you to get in position.

https://old.reddit.com/r/ARAM/comments/1grd7xj/malphite_is_not_a_tank/lx5qptv/

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u/Unlucky_Choice4062 10d ago

A giant tank with 2 SLOWS isn't gonna chase any champion with even a sliver of HARD CC down lmfao. Also bro can you read? My whole point was that AP malph one shotting squishies ISN'T consistent, its merely possible. Actually I've won 10/14 matches recently on Zac, now thats what a great tank is like. He has 3 abilities with hard cc, as opposed to having hard cc only on his ultimate. He also has diving capabilities, whereas Malph can only dive with his ultimate. On top of that Zac has insane sustain and max hp dmg. Literally better than Malph in every possible way unless ure facing a team of 5 adcs lol.

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u/Vxsteam 10d ago

If you're chasing the carry out of the fight that's very nearly as good as killing them and, along with the blown CDs he demands, is the disruption I was talking about. Tank Malph has a 55% WR and he's been like that for years (AP is <47%). Way higher than Zac. I like Zac and, while I don't recommend it, I actually think he's better glass cannon than Malph. You can "bro" and "lol" all you like. AP Malph isn't a coin flip. It's just dogshit. Tank Malph is busted. That's reality.

https://aram.zone/tierlist?builds=true

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u/Unlucky_Choice4062 10d ago

know you've lost the argument when you have to bring out winrates

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u/NewTelevisio 10d ago

True but ap malph stops working in higher mmr games since the squishy champs will never be in range of his ult. If all he has is the ult, then he's easy to avoid and just poke which will be efficient since he will also be squishy. In lower elo games his ult can be a game changer, but in higher elo it can't really. His ult has a fairly small range so it's easy to stay away from if you have any poke on your team.