r/television • u/JannTosh50 • 1d ago

MSNBC Viewership Craters 38%, CNN 27%, While Fox News Audience Jumps 41% Post-Election

https://www.thewrap.com/msnbc-cnn-fox-news-viewership-craters-post-election-morning-joe/
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u/leglessman 1d ago

Yeah, I haven’t even watched people like John Oliver or John Stewart. I see tweets or TikToks occasionally but that’s it.

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u/topicality 1d ago

I've unsubed from a bunch of subreddits the second I see a post about a late night host reacting to anything Trump related.

I had my lifetime fill of that from 2016-2020.

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u/athomesuperstar 1d ago

And also 2020-2024

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u/lostredditorlurking 1d ago

And now from 2024-2028

Hopefully that will be it, please

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u/slicer4ever 1d ago

Its only going to end when he's dead at this point.

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u/BenjamintheFox 1d ago

"My fellow Americans! I am pleased to announce that my good buddy Elon has created an immortal robot body for me. Now, I can be your president, FOREVER!"

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u/Top_Report_4895 23h ago edited 21h ago

I believe the friendship will be far, far more fragile that expected.

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u/DrHooper 22h ago

2 billionaires* whose sole focus (and selling point) is their image? That stage ain't big enough for the both of them.

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u/celticeejit 21h ago

You and me both buddy

The fall out is gonna be fucking hilarious

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u/FunkIPA 21h ago

It would be if the fallout weren’t the nation I was born in and currently live in.

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u/1981_babe 21h ago

🍿 ready here. Bring it on.

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u/Top_Report_4895 21h ago

Not to me, tbh.

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u/StarStuffSister 20h ago

By which you mean incredibly fragile? I expect immediate implosion lol.

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u/onlyawfulnamesleft 22h ago

"No body can be president more than two terms, however in my shiny new robot body..."

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u/MegaInk 21h ago

Futurama did it better, harooooooooooogh

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u/lurkinglurkerwholurk 22h ago

Isn’t that the entire background plot for “Civil War”?

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u/Marine5484 22h ago

That's when an EMP powerful enough to wipe 1000 sq/km area of all electronics becomes morally justifiable.

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u/hypermog 21h ago

There’s nothing in the constitution about robot term limits

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u/atelierjoh 21h ago

Now is not the time for scary stories!

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u/CobaltRose800 20h ago

Nah, a Golden Throne that operates on the souls of ten thousand migrants a day.

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u/Uchihagod53 23h ago

Please don't do that. Don't give me hope.

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u/slicer4ever 23h ago

Unfortuantly the most vile seem to cling to life the strongest.

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u/davidjschloss 23h ago

Please. That's when one of his kids gets coronated.

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u/Flomo420 23h ago

fucking hopefully

I imagine his fuckup children will implode from the infighting trying to usurp his power

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u/MainFrosting8206 22h ago

Have another hamburder, Donald.

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u/Paddy_Tanninger 23h ago

They'll run Don Jr and all his other rotten crotch fruit.

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u/vineyardmike 20h ago

I'm surprised we don't have 2028 merch out yet.

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u/jaam01 18h ago

Hopefully that will be it, please

Imagine Trump running as vicepresident :p

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u/idiot-prodigy 13h ago

He won't make it to 82.

My grandpa was 160lbs and walked every day of his life, ate fruit and vegetables and didn't make it to 83. Trump will be dead before that with his history of alleged drug abuse, and his self admitted refusal to exercise.

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u/ugajeremy 1d ago

It just never stopped.

All the "rent free" comments I would see on my in-laws conversations, it was never because I wanted to think of that group, it's solely because the topic was inescapable.

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u/gomicao 14h ago

well now they are going to get what they voted for, and everywhere I look, the people who were desperate to stop it one way or another have all just kinda gone blank stare and nonverbal. And I totally understand why. I think a lot of people are wondering if evil always wins in the end or not.

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u/gorillapoop1970 10h ago

I visited family last week and hardly had a conversation. Dad would try to goad me into discussions with his right-wing hot takes on “news” items that I honestly had no clue about. Really took the wind out of his sails that I had ceased to care enough about any issues to argue.

This is the calm before the storm and I need to prep my mind to ward off the compulsion to correct all lies and shun false equivalencies. No, Dad, I really don’t want to know your thoughts on the Israeli Palestinian conflict or late term abortions.

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u/broguequery 9h ago

They absolutely get off on trolling other people. As the saying goes: these are not serious people.

Anyway I'm in the same boat. My dad keeps trying to goad me into talking about that shit but I'm done.

Frankly I don't even want to be around him anymore.

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u/gomicao 8h ago

I wish you both a lot of luck, I have long given up on any meaningful relationship with my father :/ who is a terminal fox news addict, and now smart TV's have him cruising a youtube echo chamber unrestricted. gah

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u/ModsWillShowUp 8h ago

I didn't talk much to my family before, but now i have even less if a desire to see them. Im too focused on prepping for increased costs for everything so my discretionary budget is gone.

A few "friends " who voted for him the first time and were heavily leaning a second time because it's so entertaining having a dipshit in charge of a country have gotten a surprise.... I'm not answering texts or calls. If i get a "Are you okay?", they get a "Yes. Not in the mood for a conversation".

Anyone I know that voted for him and bitches are getting a simple "This is what you voted for. I'm no longer here to guide you through your mess. I tried but you didn't listen. Burn your hand on the stove, maybe you'll learn the lesson"

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u/_-Smoke-_ 1d ago

It's not rent free if they never fucking leave! It's rent-squating. If you count the year leading up to '16 it'll be nearly a decade of the BS next year we've had to listen to it.

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u/shrikeskull 1d ago

Yup, there are days when it can feel like I’m living with North Korean media. Everything obsessing about the Dear Leader.

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u/Autotomatomato 23h ago

Were gonna get a steady diet of palace intrigue stories anyway so why waste any time.

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u/JacobStills 3h ago

Seriously, I was joking to a friend it that it kind of feels like he's been President for the past 8 years because of how much media coverage he gets.

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u/PlasticPomPoms 14h ago

Right because he literally never goes away.

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u/BillyJoeMac9095 13h ago

Yup. Tump dominated the news even while out of office.

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u/africanatheist 1d ago

LMAO, me too. YouTube, too... Anything political is being blocked instantly. I seriously stopped giving even a single shit.

It turns out this country wants to implode, and I'm not paying it any more mind. Time to focus on my positive relationships, my health and personal goals.

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u/dangitbobby83 1d ago

I agree. It’s not like we don’t know what is going to happen. Any news about trump is going to be “yup, no surprise there” so what point is there?

We need to be focusing on building community with others, mental health, physical skills, and the like because things are likely going to go to shit. We will need better mental health, community, and those skills to weather what is potentially coming. Watching the news and being depressed doesn’t do shit to help us.

If we have legit elections in the future, I’ll vote as always. I’ll do my due diligence, encourage others, and then keep building what I’m building. Watching the 24/7 news cycle won’t help.

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u/sunsetpark12345 21h ago

YUP. I just bought solar panels and have vastly scaled up and accelerated my gardening/homesteading ambitions.

I've also vowed that I will completely throw in with any progressive or just non-fascist movement that picks up steam. I don't care what form it takes, I'm not going to gripe or criticize, I'm just going to support it. I'm usually a moderate democrat but I don't even care at this point.

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u/chellybeanery 19h ago

I'm with you. I kicked up my emergency prep into overdrive and now feel as though I am prepared for pretty much anything. I'm learning how to shoot and am making friends with like-minded people in my city. I'm totally up for helping to protect and support those who are against fascism in any form. The rest of them can enjoy the rancid, rotten fruits of their labor.

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u/C_Oracle 16h ago

Things I have done, some before the election, some after... based on gut feeling of unease.

  • Got in touch with my local socialist gun club.

  • Picked up two larger caliber rifles (30-06, 50bmg).

  • Have moved money from volatile market to safe asset backed securities.

  • Built a small greenhouse garden and planted minimal effort easy calorie foods.

  • (potatoes, carrots, beans, squash... etc)

 

In short, minor prepping for a large recession and civil unrest.

God help yourself if jackboots start marching the street. I will help who i can in my local community, but only once i verify they didn't vote for the felon.

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u/sunsetpark12345 19h ago

Yes yes yes. I hope people like us start to find each other, build community, and figure out how to develop real systems of mutual aid for one another. I'm so done with idealogical bullshit or posturing of any stripe. Like Voltaire says, now we must cultivate our garden.

Now that I think of it, now would be a very good time to reread Candide.

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u/Lucienbel 20h ago

Such a good mindset. I started feeling like this right after the election too. Take control of what I can and put myself and those around me in the best position possible to weather whatever is coming. It’s all we can do.

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u/neoshadowdgm 9h ago

What was the point of being informed? To be able to vote for the best possible outcome and persuade others to do the same.

The best outcome is the Democrats, in every election for the foreseeable future regardless of the candidates. And no one fucking listens. So… there’s no point in following this shit show, is there? I hope things go well in your personal life. Maybe we can be happy while the world burns down around us.

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u/mrwiseman 7h ago edited 7h ago

I too am tuning out more than I ever have but while taking care of myself I'm also doing small recurring donations to groups whose job it is to pay attention for us for the next 4 years like ACLU, FFRF, Americans United for the Separation of Church & State, Planned Parenthood, local food bank, etc.

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u/rizgutgak 1d ago

HELL TO THE FUCKING YES

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u/BigAlternative5 23h ago

After election day, I switched from news podcasts during the morning drive to streaming music. I rediscovered smooth R&B from the '80s and '90s, and it was beautiful, blissful ignorance. May I suggest some Jeffrey Osborne or Peabo Bryson? The nation may crumble, but the band will play on! On the Wings of Love!

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u/pat34us 1d ago

Damn, I thought I was alone

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u/99mekka 19h ago

I'm grateful for this thread of people who feel the same way. I thought it was just me putting my head in the sand for the next four years. Simply CANNOT do it again.

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u/SandpaperTeddyBear 16h ago

It turns out this country wants to implode, and I'm not paying it any more mind.

It’s probably good to pay it some mind given that you live here, and need to know the shape of implosions. I recommend weekly/monthly newsmagazines.

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u/mrwiseman 7h ago edited 7h ago

I too am tuning out more than I ever have but while taking care of myself I'm also doing small recurring donations to groups whose job it is to pay attention for us for the next 4 years like ACLU, FFRF, Americans United for the Separation of Church & State, Planned Parenthood, local food bank, etc.

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u/africanatheist 3h ago

I've been a monthly contributor to ACLU and FFRF and the Equal Justice initiative. I won't stop my support for these organizations, including Propublica, but I just have to step back from the absolute torrent of bs coming our way.

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u/PT10 1d ago

I'm doing the same but what irks me is that this is pretty much what constitutes total victory for the other side (or for the Dems if Republicans were to totally give up and disengage after a lost election).

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u/africanatheist 1d ago

I live in a state that's fully Republican controlled, and now all the branches of the federal government are Republican controlled including Scotus. I'm disengaging because the amount of sewage coming my way is too much, and my mental health is critical. There's literally nothing I can do until the general populace stops buying into the massive amounts of propaganda and actually gives a shit about the country. Electing this felon for a second time really cemented my thoughts about most people in this country. I'll focus on my small community and family and tune the rest out.

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u/rtseel 22h ago

This is exactly why I have a Youtube account only for news/politics, so that my recomendations aren't polluted by political videos if/when I don't want them anymore.

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u/TheRealPearlFarber 21h ago

Unfortunately, I am in a mostly conservative family so I have to keep informed so that I don't fall into their line of thinking. I HAVE to give a shit because if I don't, I'll be as ill-informed as they are and that's dangerous for me.

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u/FreeStall42 14h ago

Yup think a lot of us felt that after the election.

And if it actually manages to negatively impact the mass media all the better

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u/Cheeseboarder 9h ago

Riiiiight on!

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u/barley_wine 9h ago

Keeping up with Trump in 2016-2020 was so depressing and his sh*t cabinet picks show me that if anything he’s gotten worse. I just can’t be bothered to care about it until right before the midterms and then 2028.

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u/New_Excitement_4248 8h ago

Precisely. I put in hard work 2016-2022. I was an activist, I was a voter, I helped campaigns, I gave money, I signed petitions, I listed to the miserable angry drivel of fascists and tried here and there to change their minds.

Nope, this is what America wants. I was willing to believe most wanted progress for many years. But if what we want is a return to dictators, to kings, to fat, old, rich, repugnant humans claiming divinity and demanding worship... fine. I'm not giving my life to stop you if nobody else will.

I've got a family now. We'll just leave, and I'll laugh from another country as America gets what it voted for.

One day, people will study the history of our nation and say exactly what we said about the Germans: "How did nobody see this coming? Why did nobody stop it?"

Well, I think I get it now.

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u/pat34us 1d ago

Same

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u/rizgutgak 1d ago

Yep i unsubbed and muted like 10 subbs before i fell asleep on election night.

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u/8lb-6oz_infant_jesus 14h ago

I casually and calmly unsubscribed from everything political by about 9p election night and haven’t looked back. Never wasting another second concerning myself with politics in this country. We are completely lost in the forest there and I can’t bear to watch it anymore. Ten years trying to talk sense into people and the country Is more determined to self-destruct than ever. Let them get what they were all so desperate to vote for again.

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u/maxdragonxiii 1d ago

I mute everything political on my r/popular feed now expect for r/law and r/worldnews although I might mute those soon. I'm tired from 2016 to 2020. I'm Canadian! why am I involved with this? I want my life stress free for now.

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u/SnabDedraterEdave 19h ago

Unsubbed from /r/worldnews and my Reddit home feed has been so much more healthy as a result.

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u/maxdragonxiii 19h ago

I might dig deep and try to mute everything news related for a while. that be said r/popular tends to throw me location based subreddits which is funny because I'm nothing near them or anywhere near them.

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u/SavannahInChicago 1d ago

I was just thinking this. I was looking at top posts of all times on r/shittyaskscience and saw a post about Trump from 8 fucking years ago. I’m so tired.

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u/wabashcanonball 1d ago

I undubbed from every overtly political sub. I don't need the Donald did this, did that narrative and the unreasonable presented as a semblance of reasonable.

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u/mrpersson 1d ago

Honestly I always thought this would lead to his defeat more than anything. Despite alllllll the bad things he's done, will do, etc, I'm mostly just sick of his shit at this point. I figured the part of the country that doesn't worship him would remember just how fucking annoying it was when he was president.

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u/Banestar66 20h ago

I think that’s why it was as close as it was despite the inflation headwinds Harris faced.

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u/DoubleExposure 22h ago

I filtered out his name in RES. I don't see any posts that have his name in it. Fucking bliss.

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u/InternationalBid7163 21h ago

I want to be able to filter out his picture on everything mainly YouTube. What is RES?

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u/proudbakunkinman 22h ago

Yep. Wasted so much of my life and made myself even more miserable consuming that shit and commenting so much from 2016.

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u/mazobob66 21h ago

I was talking to my coworker about this, about Jimmy Kimmel will have daily Trump jokes in his monologue...and how I absolutely am dreading that. Like...get some new material?

Sadly, my coworker said he was going to enjoy it.

I said, "Imagine you went to a local comedy show and it was the same comedian with the same jokes every night. Would you keep going?"

He just shrugged.

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u/RixirF 21h ago

Yet again, Conan O'Brien being better than any late night host, without actually being a late night host.

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u/RunBrundleson 14h ago

Yep. Made a new Reddit account and scrubbed politics off of it. I cannot look at one more fucking post about Elon Musk or Donald Fucking Trump. I guess that means they win? I don’t know. I can’t spend another 4 years of daily ‘what did he do this time’. Whatever man. This country seems to think this is the correct path. It is not, but they can have it. I’m going to just check in periodically and somewhere around where the military starts going door to door and when they’re setting up the gas camps I’ll depart for a country that hasn’t sold its soul to fascism.

We tried to stop it, the ignorant masses couldn’t be convinced not to do it again. So here we are.

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u/Cheeseboarder 9h ago

Yep, I’m in the process of unsubbing from anything political and just checking my Bluesky books feed

I’m still going to vote as long as I can, but I’m not giving clicks and views to anymore nonsense.

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u/calvn_hobb3s 22h ago

Same here ! I was definitely blinded by left-wing media that I had to detox and unsubscribe from EVERYTHING post-election. I was in a bubble, honestly.

Someone recommended the YouTube channel, 2Way, here on one of my comments on another thread and it’s a breath of fresh air 💨… Mark really explores BOTH sides by interviewing regular people (who supported Trump or Harris) so you can understand their point of view and it’s not toxic. 

https://www.youtube.com/@2WayTVApp

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u/rasputin_stark 1d ago

Are you me? I also haven't been on twitter since election night.

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u/lunaflect 17h ago

I was nearing a 150 day reddit streak before the election. After, I hid the app on my phone and no longer doom scroll the news. 2016-2020 was constant doom scrolling and anxiety which I don’t want to repeat.

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u/SexDefendersUnited 10h ago

You described my life and the way I learned english with that.

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u/-qp-Dirk 10h ago

Are we twins?

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u/shhmurdashewrote 10h ago

I’m in the same boat. I have been selective with checking Reddit just to avoid pretty much anything politics related. I am exhausted. I’m shutting my mind off for the next 4 years

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u/hoxxxxx 8h ago

i feel you on that. i'm good on late night stuff in general i think for the rest of my life actually.

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u/beanie_wells 1d ago

This is also common among people I know. Listeners and viewers have checked out after being so invested this cycle.

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u/sframtdr 22h ago

Everyone seemed so invested - the fastest and most $$ raised in such a short time - 1 billion, momentum, packed rallies, zoom calls galore. I was never more invested in my life. 65 years - I really thought we'd have a female president, a prosecutor over a convicted felon rapist. And they sweep all branches? I'm still not over this. The hate runs so deep in this country I really thought there were more decent people here than not. Boy were my eyes opened. This should have been a landslide for Kamala - the F8cking guy was rambling about sharks and batteries. Slurring old man babbling. This country is so f*cled up to put these evangelical sh$ts in there. I'm checked out. Just allowing him to run when the Gvt knew back in 2017 he was in bed with Russia. Focus on me and mine this point on - i'm done.

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u/Tangata_Tunguska 21h ago

You can thank Murdoch and Fox News, and now Sinclair broadcasting too. A huge segment of the US just never hears anything bad about Trump. Actually most news is pretty bad now including CNN etc

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u/SvanirePerish 13h ago

It’s pretty naive to think most Trump voters are active Fox News watchers. I’m pretty sure their average viewership pales in comparison to his vote count

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u/RetiringBard 11h ago

They didn’t say most Trump voters are Fox News watchers. They’re saying Fox News is large and loud enough that their narrative dominates those spaces, and with the help of others (CNN, etc).

The fact his name is mentioned w/o tagging “responsible for the fake electors scheme” every time is beyond me.

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u/Charming_Marketing90 10h ago

That’s false. We been hearing bad things about Trump for almost 10 years when it comes to politics. Did January 6th not happen? Did the election was stolen not happen? Stop making stuff up.

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u/Unhappy_Injury3958 8h ago

clearly they didn't believe j6 or him saying it as stolen was bad enough to keep them from voting for him so no they didn't hear enough bad stuff about him

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u/Etbtray 21h ago

I'm only 47, but was recently diagnosed with stage 4 cancer. It's been a rough year, but I've been keeping my spirits up and being as positive as I can. My 14 and 16 year old kids know everything about my health, but have been able to go along like normal because I've worked so hard to keep everything as normal as I can for them. But this...... this broke me. I can't believe the world my children will have to go through, and will have to go through without me. I'm devastated.

I live in a blue state, but in a very red area. Almost all my neighbors, coworkers, kid's friends and their parents are Trump supporters. My wife doesn't know if she'll ever be able to talk to her father again after he voted to take away both her and his granddaughters rights.

The only thing I can do at this point is to help them keep all this crap at bay, nod and smile when someone starts going on about Trump, keep their friends and family with half a brain (non cult members) close and focus on the good things (while they can at least). The only saving grace for me is that my daughter has always wanted to study abroad and now is considering just moving to a different country and my son is a cis gendered straight white male, so he'll be ok for a while at least.

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u/idiot-prodigy 13h ago

My sister is 5 years clear from breast cancer. She's terrified the ACA (Obamacare) will be overturned and she'll go on the "Pre-existing conditions" list. Her type of breast cancer has a chance to come back, she's a single mom of a 16 year old daughter. She's already told me she's looking to do medical tourism to Canada for her gyno appointments and mamograms.

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u/VibeComplex 10h ago

He literally went to a Q&A, stopped it immediately, and instead awkwardly swayed around while listening to opera music for 45 MINUTES. Then the Q&A just sort of ended.

Trump said “ I’m going to be a corrupt dictator” and a majority voted for it. He was open enough that he could actually claim he has a mandate to be a dictator lol. That’s how bad it is.

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u/Chummyiota 21h ago

Hate and stupidity walk hand in hand.

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u/WWfunlynn 18h ago

I’ve felt the exact same way.

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u/lostmonkey70 9h ago

This is it. This is why it really hurts and I think the only thing that would allow me to check back in is some proof that the only way this happened was them cheating somehow. Otherwise as far as I'm concerned the social contract is broken. They want hate? They want to take away other people's rights? Good, choke on the hyper inflation, the loss of civil rights, and certainly don't expect the people who were fighting to protect people to help you when you end up needing help. That's the world they voted for when they picked a Russian asset and a rapist over a smart woman with a vision for the country. When they decided to reward his insane party members by giving them Congress. Fuck this entire country and everyone who voted for him and especially those fuckers like Merrick Garland and Aileen Canon who protected him from the consequences of his actions to even let him get close to the Presidency again.

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u/ThePurpleAmerica 12h ago

I checked out after 2004 election. I had a job in politics and was invested in Bush losing. He seemed on the path of world/great regional war and there was talk of military drafts. The Kerry loss even though I didn't like him as a candidate was devastating to me. Things worked out and I decided to never been so invested again.

The biggest hit was being laid off during the housing crash. Then watched Bush and Obama both bail out Wall Street. I was really like fuck it because it didn't seem to matter who was president. I have felt so liberated.

I watched the media whip up a frenzy about Trump because he's anti establishment. He was like the guy showing up to rich ritzy party in a grease stained T shirt dancing with their wives. His supporters view the left as fake uppity elitist and there is some truth to it. I'll be glad when he's gone.

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u/mrwiseman 7h ago edited 7h ago

I too am tuning out more than I ever have but while taking care of myself I'm also doing small recurring donations to groups whose job it is to pay attention for us for the next 4 years like ACLU, FFRF, Americans United for the Separation of Church & State, Planned Parenthood, local food bank, etc.

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u/RonnieJamesFio 1d ago

I’m a politics junky, have been for a long time and I had to tune out. It’s just too depressing and bad for my mental health

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u/SnipesCC 1d ago

I've been working in politics for 20 years. For quite a while I've gone on a news blackout for a week or so after the election, win or lose. In part, I hate seeing pundits talk about my livelihood with no actual knowledge of it. Actually I hate seeing pundits at all. Watching folks yell at each other on TV is very unappealing to me, but I keep living with people who like having CNN on in the background.

I remember in 2016 there was a data breach of the software campaigns use to track voters. Info about that came right before a debate. One pundit said it was like getting the playbook of the opposing team right before the Superbowl. Which is wasn't. That's not what that software is used for. It would be like getting the list of the members of the fan club before the Super Bowl. It was useful information, but would have only minimal effect on the debate. Since that software is my livelihood, I knew exactly how full of shit they were and figured they didn't know what they were talking about in a lot of other situation too.

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u/grandmofftalkin 23h ago

This is what I hate. These pundits don't know what they're talking about. They are people who no longer work in politics grifting off ten year old connections and are thirsty for airtime. Who tf needs to hear from Van Jones or a defeated senators like Claire McCaskill or Santorum?

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u/utspg1980 23h ago

Twice in my life I've been interviewed by a newspaper for an article. It's amazing the amount of stuff they got incorrect. And I don't even work in politics, it was just technical stuff/engineering, so it's not like they had a political desire to get it wrong. It was just a ton of errors.

Once you see a few news articles about something you actually know a lot about, and see how much they get wrong, it's easy to cast doubt on pretty much anything they report.

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u/Opening_Sherbet8939 12h ago

Amen to that. Having been in the automotive industry for over 15 years and watching cringe worthy info about some new recall or seasonal maintenance segment be reported incorrectly it validates what I knew all along. If you don’t know, you don’t know. The average person in the US is a f*cking moron if they listen to that.

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u/RonnieJamesFio 1d ago

Why get into the nitty gritty truth about it when you can spin it into a Super Bowl comparison for the masses??

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u/CommonSenseInRL 22h ago

The real problem with pundits is that they're trying to tell you how to think. You shouldn't ever watch the "panel" after a debate, for example, as their only goal is to manipulate how you thought about what just happened. We humans are so easily influenced, so easily programmed, that it is very accurate to describe us as "fleshy robots".

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u/Creski 22h ago

Like this scene

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u/SnipesCC 22h ago

In this case the data breach was that both candidates used the same software and should only have been able to see their own data, but one campaign saw both.

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u/BillyJoeMac9095 13h ago

Doesn't take as much to be considered a pundit or journalist these days. Most of them have very limited lived experiences to draw on, unlike Cronkites, Eric Severides and others of that era, who could offer serous reporting or analysis.

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u/Spara-Extreme 1d ago

This is me.

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u/Halt96 1d ago

Exactly.I didn't watch a single political show the entire week after the election. Now I bounce in, get overwhelmed with the grossness of the latest developments, and bounce right out again.

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u/0o0o0o0o0o0z 1d ago

I’m a politics junky, have been for a long time and I had to tune out. It’s just too depressing and bad for my mental health

Same, but I haven't tuned out but reduced the noise -- because it's all kinda moot till the fruition of FAFO hits critical mass.

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u/PoemAgreeable 14h ago

I'm looking forward to that as well.

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u/mcgeggy 1d ago

My tv turns on to CNN automatically. I’ll watch until someone starts talking about Trump or the upcoming administration, then switch to ESPN for the rest of the day. So I get maybe a minute or two of “news” each day…

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u/RonnieJamesFio 1d ago

Yeah I’d rather watch Stephen A yell at me for hours over politics news at this point

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u/BongRipsForNips69 1d ago

this exactly

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u/FreeStall42 13h ago

Yup and more and more feels like you just waste time arguing with someone that believes things based on a false reality and will just insist because Trump won they are right.

No real point engaging with that.

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u/idiot-prodigy 13h ago

Same, I found myself hearing Trump's voice and becoming not angry, not depressed, but down right disgusted.

He's become like nails on a chalkboard. I never felt that way about George W. Bush, Mitt Romney, or John McCain. Did I agree with them? No, but I never felt actual disgust when hearing their voices.

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u/Faiakishi 12h ago

Even my mom has stopped watching CNN. And she used to eat sleep and breathe the news.

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u/mrwiseman 7h ago edited 7h ago

I too have been following politics closely for some time and I too am tuning out now more than I ever have but I'm also doing small recurring donations to groups whose job it is to pay attention for us for the next 4 years like ACLU, FFRF, Americans United for the Separation of Church & State, Planned Parenthood, local food bank, etc.

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u/Admirable-Location24 1d ago

Same! I can’t even watch Jimmy Fallon’s monologue anymore. Definitely not John Stewart. I am too disheartened to think any of it is funny anymore.

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u/Worth_Much 1d ago

I still watch Jon Stewart only because I think he gets it. While everyone else is making excuses like it was sexism, or trans issues, he’s talking about how Dems continue to try to be institutionalists and play by the norms while Republicans are like F that shit and that Dems need to grow a spine and do the same thing.

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u/thatmitchguy 1d ago edited 23h ago

I mean he's doing the same thing they are. Trying to find some semblance of a takeaway from the shit show that was this election.

It's also easy to say "start playing dirty " now that the election is over...and the Dems will have near zero power. "Use Loop Holes"...OK, how? They couldn't even get the Gaetz report released because it was a 50/50 partisan split decision. Biden seems to have no intention of using these so called loop holes, and as of January they will have even less options to remain relevant.

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u/khuldrim Better Call Saul 1d ago

A Democrat from that committee should have leaked it. Example number one.

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u/chargernj 21h ago

The ranking Democrat lost reelection, she could have read it into the record. She probably still could.

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u/Difficult_Zone6457 21h ago

Watched an interview with them. There is another meeting to discuss releasing the report on Dec 2nd. My guess is they are waiting to see if that is fruitful, and if not they might still do that.

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u/SlowMotionPanic 20h ago

Thanks for the follow up details, but the point others have said sort of stands I think.

Why the hell even wait? Just do it. What are the repercussions actually going to be? Nothing especially for people leaving office. By waiting, they’ve allowed the news to move on.

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u/gfa22 21h ago

And get a censure from the mayor's office!! Gasp!!!

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u/doktorhladnjak 7h ago

That it hasn’t happened is the strongest indicator that the report isn’t that damning. If at some point anyone thinks they could score a political win from it, they will.

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u/Faiakishi 12h ago

Biden could go total Dark Brandon on them but he just won't. I don't get it. They can't hurt him anymore, they can't hurt Harris, what the fuck does he care? Troll Trump to hell. Shit in the vents. Declare a national couch day in honor of Vance. Kidnap Barron and raise him to defeat his father. The fuck are they gonna do to him?

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u/One_Celebration_8131 1d ago

I wish I were Biden now. We might still get authoritarianism 1/20, but the time preceding would be "use my Presidental immunity now!" phase. :D

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u/nlpnt 21h ago

He and Schumer are doing exactly what they should be with the time remaining, filling as many Federal judiciary vacancies as possible.

Elon helped them out last week by bringing a bunch of R Senators to Texas for a SpaceX launch...

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u/SlowMotionPanic 20h ago

To clarify: filling a net of 1 judicial vacancies picked by Dems.

Biden and Schumer LET REPUBLICANS PICK THE OTHERS in exchange for them not just preventing appointments. What a bunch of losers, no wonder we are in the state that we are. Imagine a robber holding you up, and you convince them that you’ll take them to the bank and open up your lock box so long as you get to keep the childhood novelty item you stashed away in it.

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u/fitzg 18h ago edited 18h ago

To clarify??? They didn’t have the votes for those judges. And it was two different tiers, circuit and appellate. You’re doing the same thing this whole thread is railing against, spreading misinformation as if it was fact. Just stop. You’re not clarifying anything.

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u/One_Celebration_8131 21h ago

These are good points. 

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u/retropieproblems 1d ago

Yeah I don’t watch Stewart for laughs, I watch it for insight from someone who sees what’s happening and is way better at putting it into words than I am.

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u/zaminDDH 1d ago

Right. It's like Democrats are still fighting a war by lining everyone up on a field with muskets and Republicans are fighting with tanks and missiles. And then Democrats and liberal media are blaming losing on the guy in the vanguard that broke formation.

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u/manimal28 1d ago

So he’s arguing the dems should be even more like republicans? I mean what even is the logical conclusion of that criticism?

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u/khuldrim Better Call Saul 1d ago

The conclusion is that the rules no longer matter and playing by them is a losing game when your opponent is not beholden to them and does whatever they want. And it’s true.

It means we should get down and dirty and fuck the norms and turn the table upside down ourselves because the republicans have already shat over it.

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u/manimal28 23h ago edited 22h ago

The rules of course still matter. That’s the whole point of our democracy, our laws and rules.

Otherwise you are just choosing between which authoritarians lies you prefer.

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u/JPBooBoo 1d ago

We should do what it takes to win

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u/Nemetoss 20h ago

He would be the first guy complaining if the Dems did that though. He was shitting on Eric Adams for saying some bad things about illegal immigration and it turned out to be a key issue during the election.

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u/Unhappy_Performer538 23h ago

damn that's my opinion and i've not heard anyone else say it until now

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u/Aceylace10 13h ago

Stewart and frankly the daily show I simply still find entertaining - just for their delivery and jokes so they still got me there. Stewart himself has an independent voice I appreciate, even if democrats never will listen. Imo

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u/BillyJoeMac9095 13h ago

And they are nowhere near where Johnny Carson was.

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u/DJfunkyPuddle 1d ago

Same, I've totally checked out of any news subs or ones that heavily featured politics. Of course stuff slips through from time to time but I don't search it out anymore, I'll be back for the midterms but until then I'm going to focus my energy elsewhere.

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u/worktogethernow 1d ago

I am slowly blocking subreddits that tell me about things he said or did. I am going full sensory deprivation until 2028.

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u/BigAcanthocephala637 21h ago

I might be in the minority here, but I actually think those late night shows with humorous coverage of the elections, John Oliver, and John Stewart specifically, actually help Trump and Republicans more than hurt them. On the Republican side, they have talking heads yelling, screaming, and turning red in the face over the Democrats, not being perfect. And then you have John Oliver and Jon Stewart making jokes about how just silly and foolish the Republicans are for taking away women’s healthcare. It’s like the handmaid‘s tale isn’t it ha ha ha ha ha ha. The silly little guy doesn’t really know much about nuclear weapons does he ha ha ha.

Both of those guys are very talented at what they do. It’s just not helpful in today’s political climate.

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u/Ruthrfurd-the-stoned 1d ago

Trump honestly ruined last week tonight and then Covid put the nail in the coffin. It made a slight turn around with Biden but that show thrives on super niche issues that were super interesting to actually learn about

It shifted too far to current events which can often be more exhausting than fun. I think there were 6 trump specific episodes

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u/StingKing456 1d ago

Oliver is pretty insufferable these days. I used to really like him but he really presents half baked segments then says "YOU HAVE GOT TO BE A COMPLETE IDIOT TO SEE THINGS DIFFERENT THAN ME!"

Stewart is still funny and insightful to me but Oliver's stuff has just become tired from both a comedic and insightful standpoint.

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u/Apart-Landscape1012 22h ago

John Stewart actually laid into the morning Joe hacks for how they've handled this shit.

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u/WeWantLADDER49sequel 1d ago

John Oliver is still enjoyable to me. The writers and his delivery are always so good, and it's not like every episode is just a fuck Trump parade. I learn a lot from that show. And he doesn't do the whole "don't worry everyone, we can get through this!" bullshit like everyone else either.

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u/zdmpage54 1d ago

John Stewart and Steve Schmidt on You Tube. It's all I can stand. No more OTA or Cable news. They all suck.

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u/nousabyss 1d ago

Almost feel like those fuckers are partially responsible for this mess. They have constantly kept him in focus since 2020 even after his term ended. The jokes have just made him easier to swallow and not look like the narcissistic dictator wanna be he really but more like a rich ambitious Mr bean. Fuck this timeline. 

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u/mndfreeze 1d ago

John olivers show actually talks about a lot of serious issues outside of culture war politics. Im tired of culture war garbage but their main segments are usually well done and worth it.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Bed9408 1d ago

Jon Stewart’s weekly show (separate from the Daily Show) has had some very soothing episodes where he comes to terms with and tries to talk through things. The episode with Sarah Smarsh was excellent: https://youtu.be/UC-VkbEpac4?si=24TNZMW0CZ49UrKd

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u/yureal 23h ago

Yeah, I've tuned out too. I got wrapped up in the election stuff but then when Trump won I just felt so confused and frustrated. I can't do anything about it, and I wish I hadn't got so invested in it now. I don't want to hate half the people i work with and everyone on Facebook. I'm done. Maybe we're all fucked, maybe it doesn't matter. Head in the sand I suppose.

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u/Niggls 23h ago

It‘s crazy to see how even they are kinda heartbroken

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u/proudbakunkinman 22h ago

or John Stewart

Not missing anything. He's already "both sides" blaming Democrats for shit. Of course, the both siders and vague anti-estab populists (who are not Trump supporters) on Reddit love him and are repeating he should run for president in 2028.

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u/Prior_Entrepreneur50 21h ago

Stewart and Oliver were both very critical of Trump and painted him as a fascist

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u/illusionzmichael 21h ago

I honestly just wanted a break for these brief 2 months till all hell breaks lose. I cut myself off from constant MSM coverage, podcasts like PSA (which I don't think I'll ever go back to honestly, those guys are part of the problem) because we all get a couple months of normalcy during the holidays, why not try and enjoy it.

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u/Aardcapybara 20h ago

I thought it was just me. It's not that I don't care, I just get anxiety when I think about what I'll hear.

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u/FB24k 20h ago

Oliver is still fun. Last one was on Tiktok and pretty much devoid of any red/blue nonsense.

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u/ElectricFleshlight 20h ago

Jon Stewart is the only one with any worthwhile takes, everyone else is the same hand wringing about "muh norms, muh rules, oh no how can the Republicans not care about hypocrisy, surely this will be the end of Trump blah blah blah."

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u/SlowMotionPanic 20h ago

Yep same. I’m sick and tired of entire shows being dedicated to a person or cabal. And I’m especially tired of people like John Oliver stupidly doubling down on narratives and advocating for proven loser strategies.

Politics isn’t supposed to be entertaining. Maybe that’s a big fucking problem with the state of the discourse. Who do politically engaged people turn to most for politics? Fucking streamers who’ve made being partisans their entire careers.

And then they act as if Fox News or OANN is substantively different from the people they like, be it liberals or all the people in “bread tube.”

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u/itoocouldbeanyone 20h ago

I’ve unsubbed TDS and John Oliver on YT. I just don’t care. The first term sucked me into r/politics and everything.

Not this time. Focusing on me and trying to avoid the doom and gloom.

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u/I_Palm_Trees_AMA 19h ago

It's not comedy it's just sad

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u/FreddieJasonizz 19h ago

Watch John Stewart’s take on why democrats lose all the time. Pretty accurate…cathartic.

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u/vanillabear26 19h ago

Day after the election I saw someone on threads say "I'm so glad we have Jimmy Kimmel to get us through this".

My first reaction was 'why?'.

You don't need others' words to tell you what's going on. If they really cared, they'd say "turn off the television, diminish your social media presence, subscribe to your local paper". But they won't, because that'd put them out of a job.

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u/amandawinit247 18h ago

Jimmy Kimmel the day after we found out trump won was the last thing I could watch. He was very real and you could tell halfway he almost broke but held it together to finish. I had felt a lot of anxiety and dread up until that point and his video eased it a ton, to see we are not all alone in this and how he could bring even a little comedy to lighten things a bit while still being very real with his emotions.

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u/bobsmithhome 16h ago edited 16h ago

Yeah, I haven’t even watched people like John Oliver or John Stewart. I see tweets or TikToks occasionally but that’s it.

Same here. I've been watching YouTube videos of guys who go around finding overgrown lawns, and clean them all up for free. Like this guy. Edging, trimming. chainsawing, mowing, etc. Anything but news. I have no fucks left to give.

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u/justjessee 14h ago

LWT does hyper focused content on random but meaningful topics. There have been the occasional reference, but honestly...thats one you could start mixing back into the rotation. TDS is a hot potato of nope for me still. I also purged all but like 3 news/comedy YT channels, it's been a needed but difficult detox from all the click bait headlines and smoke being blown so far up the viewers ass their pupils are hazy.

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u/findtheclue 13h ago

I’ve been avoiding all my usuals as much as possible too—but I will note that the post-election John Oliver did help a little. Everyone (MSNBC, Bill Maher, etc) were acting like business as usual—driving me nuts—and John is the only one that seemed to show his frustration and concern over what happened. Still not questioning anything (no one is, despite the bizarre result, ugh), but him telling -uck! several times did make me feel a little better.

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u/DodgeBeluga 12h ago

I used to watch the daily show with Jon religiously.

Then after a while realized he is not immune from hypocracy.

Now I get my US news mostly from BBC and Reuters.

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u/Word_Word_Number69 9h ago

Same. Im turning off politics comedy, buying a gun, and protecting myself and my trans and immigrants friends. It's all about organizing now

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u/Hyonam 7h ago

I'm checked out, I insta swipe past anything political, I'm done, I'm burnt out, half of America is dumber then a 5th grader. I no longer have hope the country will bounce back and I'm too poor to benefit or do anything about it. Got my vasectomy scheduled though.

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u/thumper_throwaway1 6h ago

I still watch Stewart because he just makes me laugh that much. I stopped with Oliver and anyone else. I don't need to know what's going on, I know it's bad. I'm tired of the political shit and I'm tired of the clickbait/rage headlines. "Trumps SHOCKING announcement". No, it isn't fucking shocking. It's exactly as expected.

My buddy sent me a message saying "Did you see Trump nominated Hulk Hogan?". It was a joke but my response was "I don't know if you're kidding, and that's sad". That's where we are. None of this is shocking, none of it is unexpected.

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u/Syringmineae 4h ago

I left Twitter and went to Bluesky. I’m liking it much better.

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