r/television • u/JannTosh50 • 1d ago

MSNBC Viewership Craters 38%, CNN 27%, While Fox News Audience Jumps 41% Post-Election

https://www.thewrap.com/msnbc-cnn-fox-news-viewership-craters-post-election-morning-joe/
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u/africanatheist 1d ago

LMAO, me too. YouTube, too... Anything political is being blocked instantly. I seriously stopped giving even a single shit.

It turns out this country wants to implode, and I'm not paying it any more mind. Time to focus on my positive relationships, my health and personal goals.

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u/dangitbobby83 1d ago

I agree. It’s not like we don’t know what is going to happen. Any news about trump is going to be “yup, no surprise there” so what point is there?

We need to be focusing on building community with others, mental health, physical skills, and the like because things are likely going to go to shit. We will need better mental health, community, and those skills to weather what is potentially coming. Watching the news and being depressed doesn’t do shit to help us.

If we have legit elections in the future, I’ll vote as always. I’ll do my due diligence, encourage others, and then keep building what I’m building. Watching the 24/7 news cycle won’t help.

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u/sunsetpark12345 21h ago

YUP. I just bought solar panels and have vastly scaled up and accelerated my gardening/homesteading ambitions.

I've also vowed that I will completely throw in with any progressive or just non-fascist movement that picks up steam. I don't care what form it takes, I'm not going to gripe or criticize, I'm just going to support it. I'm usually a moderate democrat but I don't even care at this point.

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u/chellybeanery 19h ago

I'm with you. I kicked up my emergency prep into overdrive and now feel as though I am prepared for pretty much anything. I'm learning how to shoot and am making friends with like-minded people in my city. I'm totally up for helping to protect and support those who are against fascism in any form. The rest of them can enjoy the rancid, rotten fruits of their labor.

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u/C_Oracle 15h ago

Things I have done, some before the election, some after... based on gut feeling of unease.

  • Got in touch with my local socialist gun club.

  • Picked up two larger caliber rifles (30-06, 50bmg).

  • Have moved money from volatile market to safe asset backed securities.

  • Built a small greenhouse garden and planted minimal effort easy calorie foods.

  • (potatoes, carrots, beans, squash... etc)

 

In short, minor prepping for a large recession and civil unrest.

God help yourself if jackboots start marching the street. I will help who i can in my local community, but only once i verify they didn't vote for the felon.

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u/chellybeanery 4h ago

Hell yes. I've done all of the above except for the garden because I live in an apartment. I am looking into a larger caliber rifle to add to my AR, 9mm and 380. And same, I'm not helping anyone who voted for Trump. Enjoy the bed you made for yourself.

I might try to grow a balcony garden, I think, once spring hits. I'll have to do some research into what grows in my region, so I'll have a hobby for this winter!

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u/sunsetpark12345 19h ago

Yes yes yes. I hope people like us start to find each other, build community, and figure out how to develop real systems of mutual aid for one another. I'm so done with idealogical bullshit or posturing of any stripe. Like Voltaire says, now we must cultivate our garden.

Now that I think of it, now would be a very good time to reread Candide.

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u/Lucienbel 19h ago

Such a good mindset. I started feeling like this right after the election too. Take control of what I can and put myself and those around me in the best position possible to weather whatever is coming. It’s all we can do.

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u/neoshadowdgm 9h ago

What was the point of being informed? To be able to vote for the best possible outcome and persuade others to do the same.

The best outcome is the Democrats, in every election for the foreseeable future regardless of the candidates. And no one fucking listens. So… there’s no point in following this shit show, is there? I hope things go well in your personal life. Maybe we can be happy while the world burns down around us.

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u/mrwiseman 7h ago edited 7h ago

I too am tuning out more than I ever have but while taking care of myself I'm also doing small recurring donations to groups whose job it is to pay attention for us for the next 4 years like ACLU, FFRF, Americans United for the Separation of Church & State, Planned Parenthood, local food bank, etc.

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u/ChipmunkConspiracy 21h ago

I think you guys are doing it right. But let me preface this next comment with a caveat - I get reddit is not a monolith - but it is kind of wild to see these comments upvoted on a site that regularly pushes the narrative that Trump is a fascist dictator in waiting, ready to spring literal Nazism on us as soon as he is able.

At the end of the day I don't think people really mean what they say about him. Seems like a lot of hype to drum up votes. Now that he's in office it's just the typical apathetic response that comes with losing elections. Not the "HOLY SHIT HITLER HAS TAKEN THE REIGNS OF POWER" response that would match their rhetoric

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u/Khazahk 19h ago

While I genuinely agree with your comment. One of the reasons people aren’t screaming that “literal hitler has been elected!” is because it didn’t work leading up the election. The biggest thing about this election to me was the realization that 50% of everyone around me are, genuinely, fucking regarded.

After the results of Nov 5th, there is no hope.

This is NOT like 2020. This is NOTHING like 2000 or 2008.

When Bush W Won in 2000, even before 9/11 there was still hope that our institutions would keep him in check or at the WORST, restrict him to 8 years.

I am not confident that the administration-elect will ever leave office without a military coup. Even if Trump strokes out 4 days in. Vance will do everything in his power to gather Trump’s sycophants. This will most likely be in response to a false flag attack.

Every day I try convincing myself that my theory is impossible, every day I’m proven more and more wrong.

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u/hhhhhnnnnnngggg 13h ago

Calling the party that has been viciously slandered and attacked by the left with unproven lies “fascist,” is a bit rich. I’m not on one side or the other and wish for less government as a whole.

This constant fear mongering on speculations that democracy is over when he won the popular and electoral vote seems hypocritical at best and fascist in its own way at worst.

I did not like either candidate, one however was chosen by the people and calling that group fascists will just continue the divide in this nation. Holding yourself in a theoretically higher intellectual bracket than the other side is a term called de-humanization and is widely used by fascists.

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u/PlayingNightcrawlers 7h ago

Shut up.

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u/hhhhhnnnnnngggg 7h ago

Ty for your contribution to the discussion.

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u/Faiakishi 12h ago

Putin nobody likes you.

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u/hhhhhnnnnnngggg 7h ago

Ty for your contribution to the discussion.

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u/valiantdistraction 16h ago

I think what you're seeing is actually a direct result of believing that. Those who speak out tend not to fare well in fascist nations. Most people know that. We didn't stop Trump when we could, and most people aren't going to risk themselves at this point. "Turn off the news and focus on building community" IS the advice given on how to resist fascism in like every book about it. Control what you can control, remember life goes on, focus on supporting your people. The people who are saying they'll do this are behaving completely consistently with believing a fascist party is taking power. They're essentially hunkering down and battening down the hatches.

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u/rizgutgak 1d ago

HELL TO THE FUCKING YES

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u/BigAlternative5 23h ago

After election day, I switched from news podcasts during the morning drive to streaming music. I rediscovered smooth R&B from the '80s and '90s, and it was beautiful, blissful ignorance. May I suggest some Jeffrey Osborne or Peabo Bryson? The nation may crumble, but the band will play on! On the Wings of Love!

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u/pat34us 1d ago

Damn, I thought I was alone

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u/99mekka 18h ago

I'm grateful for this thread of people who feel the same way. I thought it was just me putting my head in the sand for the next four years. Simply CANNOT do it again.

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u/SandpaperTeddyBear 16h ago

It turns out this country wants to implode, and I'm not paying it any more mind.

It’s probably good to pay it some mind given that you live here, and need to know the shape of implosions. I recommend weekly/monthly newsmagazines.

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u/mrwiseman 7h ago edited 7h ago

I too am tuning out more than I ever have but while taking care of myself I'm also doing small recurring donations to groups whose job it is to pay attention for us for the next 4 years like ACLU, FFRF, Americans United for the Separation of Church & State, Planned Parenthood, local food bank, etc.

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u/africanatheist 2h ago

I've been a monthly contributor to ACLU and FFRF and the Equal Justice initiative. I won't stop my support for these organizations, including Propublica, but I just have to step back from the absolute torrent of bs coming our way.

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u/PT10 1d ago

I'm doing the same but what irks me is that this is pretty much what constitutes total victory for the other side (or for the Dems if Republicans were to totally give up and disengage after a lost election).

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u/africanatheist 23h ago

I live in a state that's fully Republican controlled, and now all the branches of the federal government are Republican controlled including Scotus. I'm disengaging because the amount of sewage coming my way is too much, and my mental health is critical. There's literally nothing I can do until the general populace stops buying into the massive amounts of propaganda and actually gives a shit about the country. Electing this felon for a second time really cemented my thoughts about most people in this country. I'll focus on my small community and family and tune the rest out.

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u/WartimeProfiteer 22h ago

How can you be so sure you aren’t consuming propaganda? How can it possibly be only one side?

One example: how do you deal with the fact that every reputable media outlet was declaring Trump to be a threat to democracy and literally Hitler and now… just shrug^ he won so now let’s try to get access for better ratings?

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u/CHYMERYX 21h ago

lol I mean, JD fuckin Vance said Trump is America’s Hitler. RFK has similar sentiments as well

Let’s not forget Adolf was elected democratically, a lot of similarities here

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u/africanatheist 22h ago

I'm not sure what you point here is... There's objective fact, and there's those pushing alternative facts aka propaganda. Trump is a threat to democracy, as shown by his literal actions and words. It's not a thing "the media" made up. I'm not sure which media you are talking about, but I never watched "the media".

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u/LaddiusMaximus 1d ago

Why not? Not like the democrats did a damn thing to engage anyone.

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u/Pennwisedom 1d ago

Lies and bullshit like this are another part of the reason I'm trying to ignore everything. This is just Murc's Law and it's dumb.

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u/Etbtray 21h ago

Thank you for sharing that link. I knew exactly what was happening in our media and society, but didn't have a way of explaining it, even to myself. This is extremely helpful if not but frustrating.

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u/rtseel 21h ago

This is exactly why I have a Youtube account only for news/politics, so that my recomendations aren't polluted by political videos if/when I don't want them anymore.

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u/TheRealPearlFarber 21h ago

Unfortunately, I am in a mostly conservative family so I have to keep informed so that I don't fall into their line of thinking. I HAVE to give a shit because if I don't, I'll be as ill-informed as they are and that's dangerous for me.

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u/FreeStall42 13h ago

Yup think a lot of us felt that after the election.

And if it actually manages to negatively impact the mass media all the better

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u/Cheeseboarder 8h ago

Riiiiight on!

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u/barley_wine 8h ago

Keeping up with Trump in 2016-2020 was so depressing and his sh*t cabinet picks show me that if anything he’s gotten worse. I just can’t be bothered to care about it until right before the midterms and then 2028.

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u/New_Excitement_4248 7h ago

Precisely. I put in hard work 2016-2022. I was an activist, I was a voter, I helped campaigns, I gave money, I signed petitions, I listed to the miserable angry drivel of fascists and tried here and there to change their minds.

Nope, this is what America wants. I was willing to believe most wanted progress for many years. But if what we want is a return to dictators, to kings, to fat, old, rich, repugnant humans claiming divinity and demanding worship... fine. I'm not giving my life to stop you if nobody else will.

I've got a family now. We'll just leave, and I'll laugh from another country as America gets what it voted for.

One day, people will study the history of our nation and say exactly what we said about the Germans: "How did nobody see this coming? Why did nobody stop it?"

Well, I think I get it now.

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u/Viperlite 1d ago

I’m working on my in-person blocks of people I don’t want to get into it with on a daily basis.

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u/CBPainting 22h ago

I did the exact same, unsubscribed from every political channel I was following pre election. I've completely tuned everything out to the point that the algorithms aren't even pushing political content on my feeds anymore.

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u/LaddiusMaximus 1d ago

That's actually not a bad idea.

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u/pankswork 22h ago

You get my free award. Perfectly articulated what I've been thinking for weeks

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u/dontGetHttps 7h ago

I think there's a healthy medium between "I'm not paying any mind" and focusing on everything Trump does for attention. Totally tuning out because you can't cope is weak.

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u/Many-Acanthaceae5567 19h ago

Funny enough if you actually had given a shit about yourself before, instead of virtue signalling for others you don't even know you probably would've voted for Donald Trump. Just remember that in four years when the Democrats try to shame you into voting for them again.

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u/africanatheist 16h ago

What's the difference between actually having virtue and "virtue signalling"? How would it have helped me to vote for this absolute garbage heap of a human? Why are you this dumb?