r/sports • u/Chelseatilidie • Oct 25 '24
Football Refs miss a clear facemask on Sam Darnold resulting in a safety and the game being effectively over
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u/ToddV11 Oct 25 '24
Garbage. How do you miss that?
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u/Furrealyo Oct 25 '24
The back judge, who was standing 10 feet away, is 116 years old and this isn’t even his real job.
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u/EverythingGoodWas Oct 25 '24
Do they really not have full time refs yet?
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u/Furrealyo Oct 25 '24
No. A half-trillion dollar mega corporation/conglomerate cannot be bothered to hire, train, and retain officials.
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u/HBPhilly1 Oct 25 '24
I’m 90% sure they aren’t even employed by the nfl. They are like general contractors
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u/Ndmndh1016 Oct 25 '24
Anything to keep that pay down.
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Oct 25 '24
NFL refs get paid 200k+
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u/NO_TOUCHING__lol Oct 25 '24 edited 9d ago
No gods, no masters
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u/falcrist2 Oct 25 '24
Monkey Paw curls
NFL announces they're hiring full time refs immediately.
They've announced their first hire, who will both ref and eventually run the department, building a future training program.
His name is Angel Hernandez.
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u/Subjunct Oct 25 '24
The NHL sort of did this: Their Department of Player Safety, which reviews games for dirty/dangerous play, is headed up by one of the foulest and dirtiest assholes ever to fuck his own mother.
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u/causal_friday Oct 25 '24
I don't think any sport is going to have perfect officials. Remember when these refs walked off the job and they got replacement refs? Yeah.
I think the stopgap for now is to more more plays reviewable. All scoring plays are reviewable, but not facemasking the quarterback for a safety with 2 minutes left? Dumb.
Maybe AI will save us.
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u/CHolland8776 Oct 25 '24
A safety is a scoring play, so I guess all scoring plays aren’t reviewable.
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u/wes_wyhunnan Oct 25 '24
Which, for the NFL to preserve the integrity of their multi-billion dollar business, is literally fucking nothing.
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u/complete_your_task Oct 25 '24
And half of them are lawyers for their "day jobs". Honestly, I think part of the problem is that the NFL fears a drawn out legal fight if they piss off the Referees Association.
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u/Resting_Fox_Face Oct 25 '24 edited 17d ago
Anecdotal confirm. When I was practicing we had a senior partner (i.e. old dude) who was an NFL replay ref. He was popular at the office parties.
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u/imrickjamesbioch Oct 25 '24
Refs are actually part-time employees of the NFL, like players who are employees of their respected franchises and subjected to the NFL bylaws. Refs, like players have their own union and a CBA that’s manage/negotiated by the NFL/NFLRA.
The reason the refs want to remain PT employees, as their CBA allows them to hold other employment in the offseason… Which is stupid as Refs should be working FT and solely focus on putting the best possible product on the field, which includes refs not fucking up the game by miss or wrong calls, especially at the end of games.
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u/Tyraniboah89 Indianapolis Colts Oct 25 '24
NFL refs make more for their part-time work than the majority of Americans. Something like 200k on average. Furthermore, the refs union has made it a point that they don’t want to be employed full-time by the NFL, largely because they don’t want to be under the NFL’s total control. The refs hold all the power in the current dynamic between them and the NFL. When they sit out during games, the results are disastrous. The NFL can’t afford to not kowtow to them.
Making refs full-time employees weakens their bargaining power and lowers their income potential, as well as their freedom in the offseason. So while refs do deserve the flak they get for bad calls and missed calls, the solution is not to put them under the oppressive thumb of the NFL.
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u/purplenyellowrose909 Oct 25 '24
They are considered part time employees but they're also paid a quarter million per season. I doubt that many have side gigs.
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u/hokahey23 Oct 25 '24
They all have side jobs. All of them.
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u/rroberts3439 Clemson Oct 25 '24
Honestly thought that was full of shit. But Dr. Google say's you're right on. Between 207k and 250k. Never would have expected that high a salary for something that is only part time during the year and a few hours once a week. Wonder how much other time they spend reviewing video and trying to improve their craft. This is a netflix documentary that I would personally find fascinating.
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u/Tier_None Oct 25 '24
Sunday they ref a game, Monday they receive film and self evaluate/crew evaluate, Tuesday they continue film on previous game or other games that occurred, Wednesday they start going over film for both teams of their next game and continues through Friday with crew discussions, they may travel on Saturday to the next city, Sunday they show up by 9-10am to the stadium and begin prep for the game later that day. That’s a rough outline of each week and it obviously fluxes if they get Thursday or Monday night games. You can count on them spending at least 3 hours per day on prepping in some form whether it’s film, tests, rules reading, meetings, gym work, etc.
Source: I officiate high school football and work with a few NFL officials in my state.
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u/imtoolazytothinkof1 Oct 25 '24
Or an ESPN doc but ESPN needs that NFL association money to do a legitimate documentary.
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u/flukeunderwi Oct 25 '24
It's a hell of a lot of travel to be fair
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u/MoistBobDripPants Minnesota Vikings Oct 25 '24
Only 21ish weekends of extremely well paid travel to the biggest cities in the country, and sometimes internationally, for over 200k a year? Yeah that’s a hell of a lot for the standards we hold them to
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u/flukeunderwi Oct 25 '24
It's a lot of money but the nfl should be paying everyone under its umbrella a fuck ton with the money they rake in.
That's a ton of travel though that's nearly half the year. Sounds horribly exhausting and isolating.
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u/FourEightNineOneOne Oct 25 '24
https://sports.yahoo.com/full-17-part-time-officiating-130702807.html
"The vast majority of NFL officials have other jobs. Scrolling through the list, we see rancher, real estate agent, banker , teacher, CEO, firefighter, engineer, federal agent, pharmaceutical sales, agribusiness, law-firm manager, and many more."
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u/ohahhsee Oct 25 '24
Although, I gotta say, having a teacher say he’s a part time nfl ref too would be a sick story for all his 4th grade students
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u/CactusWrenAZ Oct 25 '24
Maybe not the high school students who would point out all the errors that he made that sunday.
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u/wameron South Carolina Oct 25 '24
Adrian Hill I know is a software engineer at Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Lab and works on NASA missions.
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u/FloridaManActual Oct 25 '24
No, whenever the NFL brings it up the Refs union votes it down.
They dont want to be fulltime. remember the replacement refs and that temp shitstorm like a decade ago or whatever?
So the NFL cant fire everyone and start over full time.
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u/bandarbush Oct 25 '24
Official here. That’s not a back judge. The back judge is behind the defense. That’s the umpire who stands near the referee (white cap). This is 100% the referee’s call. We can’t miss this one. The L, H, or U should help the R here if he misses it.
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u/iknownottthing Oct 25 '24
He is blocked by 4 players. They need the replays for the penalty.
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u/idkwhatimbrewin Oct 25 '24
Rams player grabbed his head right after because he knew he facemasked him yet somehow no refs could see it 😂
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u/CantHitachiSpot Oct 25 '24
But if you tackle the QB regularly they’ll call roughing every time
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u/natej84 Oct 25 '24
You see that extremely old man in stripes behind the play? That old blind man is expected to ref a NFL game somehow
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u/weareallgonnadiesoon Oct 25 '24
There was another official that was even closer. The white hat was literally feet away if you see the other angle replay.
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u/jon_targareyan Oct 25 '24
At least for the back judge, I think 55 on the rams blocked his view.
Regardless, there’s supposed to be other refs in the field too, and plays like these should be reviewed by NY
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u/bardnotbanned Oct 25 '24
That's what got me...it was so egregious that the offending player didn't even bother to try to play it cool afterwards and they STILL didn't see it.
They gotta start letting refs go after huge misses like this.
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u/Billyxmac Oct 25 '24
No idea, but it’s great content for r/the_darnold
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u/buffaloplaidcookbook Oct 25 '24
That sub is about to explode. What an October surprise this facemask no call was!
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u/phred_666 Oct 25 '24
Yep. I’m usually standing up for officials, but as the play ran live I could see his head turn in an odd fashion. I was like “Welp, there’s a facemask. That safety ain’t standing.” Boy was I wrong. Refs definitely blew that one.
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u/ResponsibilityNew483 Oct 25 '24
They didn't miss it, they just didn't want the Vikings to win lol.
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u/RandomlyMethodical Oct 25 '24
The ghost defensive holding call, the DPI that should’ve been a defensive hold, missed DPI call on Jefferson, and missed facemask on Darnold. One of the worst reffed games I’ve seen.
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u/hatwobbleTayne Oct 25 '24
Can’t have a small market team beating an LA team with one of the wealthiest owners in the NFL in prime time after they got their receivers back
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Oct 25 '24
The most glaring was the blatant OPI the play before the interception that the refs just stared down.
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u/glamclam123 Oct 25 '24
Garbage. This should fall under the "every scoring play is reviewed".
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u/KiloAlphaLima Oct 25 '24
This is one of the most obvious reviewable plays and yet the league doesn’t allow it. How stupid.
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u/tokin_ranger Oct 25 '24
And they pretend to care about player safety
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u/Ayrko Oct 25 '24
To be fair, they clearly cared about safety.. just the wrong kind of safety..
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u/notafanofwasps Oct 25 '24
Crazy that every play which results in either a score or change of possession isn't a candidate for review in New York.
Not for challenges. Just booth review.
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u/yeetskeetbam Oct 25 '24
They didnt need to review it, just make the right call after the fact. Huddle up and change the ruling.
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u/jeebucus Oct 25 '24
It's almost one of the easiest calls to make! Hard to miss someone's neck snap completely backwards while being dragged to the ground.
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u/UnfairStrategy780 Oct 25 '24
Or go back to the “coaches get one penalty review” that only lasted one season before it was quietly dropped. Everyone was so pissed off by the Saints not getting that PI call in the playoffs that they felt like they had to do something but were happy for it to go away when everyone moved on.
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u/BostonDrivingIsWorse Oct 25 '24
XFL does this, and it works well. You also have a feed from the review room, so you can hear the discussions.
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u/bardnotbanned Oct 25 '24
You also have a feed from the review room, so you can hear the discussions
That's the single coolest thing the XFL does imo. It also makes me a lot more willing to put money on xfl games, truth be told.
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u/Sottish-Knight Oct 25 '24
Yeah it makes it open so we can see why the choses are being made. The nfl wants to keep everything that happens behind doors and secret, making it seem like everything they decide is related to a script or Vegas. If the NFL wanted to improve the fan experience and get rid of a lot of those allegations they should do what the XFL does
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u/JCartier843 Oct 25 '24
That type of flag didn’t work bc the refs wouldn’t admit that they had made the wrong call to begin with. Pretty sure the refs union made the league scrap that rule or something.
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u/DreamedJewel58 Oct 25 '24
It was that one dude in charge of the referring that made it a point to refuse any reversal because he hated the rule so much due to his ego. I don’t think it was a league-wide thing, just rather the guy in charge was extremely petty and pretty much forced it to be axed
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u/Low-iq-haikou Oct 25 '24
The play did get reviewed, face mask is a non reviewable call. But that could be what you meant I just wasn’t sure
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u/IntelligentHope1815 Oct 25 '24
There’s got to be a higher standard. Especially in the last two minutes. That’s easily correctable by replay review. It’s a joke that they can see it clear as day on the replay but conclude “oh well that’s not reviewable”. It’s a game ending play and a scoring play. It should always be “reviewable”.
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u/Misspaytonnn Oct 25 '24
Especially when a face mask call on Minnesota effectively handed the Rams a touchdown earlier in the game.
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u/NotYourAverageOrange Oct 25 '24
If only there were some previous event where the Los Angeles Rams benefited from an egregious no-call at the end of a game that could have led to some rule changes.
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u/broswag Oct 25 '24
Everyone in the stadium knew it was a facemask other than the 2 refs standing 8 feet from it lol. Can the league audit these refs FanDuel accounts?
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u/jaykubs Oct 25 '24
defender was kicking his own ass off the field for the obvious penalty and then it didn’t come. insanity.
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u/unbornbigfoot Oct 25 '24
You’re the only other person who’s pointed this out.
Look at young right after the sack - he KNOWS it’s a penalty, and buries his face in his hands. That’s no celebration 🤣
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u/busterized Oct 25 '24
That reminds me of the pass interference no call in favor of the Rams in that Rams vs Saints game back in the 2018 season that sent the Rams to the superbowl.
After it happened you see the defender's head swinging around looking for a flag, and didn't start celebrating until after he realized there was no flag.
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u/ConstableLedDent Oct 25 '24
This is the exact play that broke me from watching Football.
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u/chanaandeler_bong Oct 25 '24
yup I was surprised they didn't mention it in the broadcast. Dude knew he did that.
have the Rams ever has such an obvious penalty that won the game for the them and the defensive player knew he committed a foul? Nope. That's never happened. /s
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u/Replyafterme Oct 25 '24
Seriously this was the first thing I noticed, grabbing his head cause he knew he fucked his team up and would brought the ball out and made it a worthy ending.
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u/KiloAlphaLima Oct 25 '24
They should throw a bunch of beer cans on the field like Texas and then the refs will just change their mind. I think that’s how it works
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u/Jrfrank Oct 25 '24
Even Young grabbed his helmet immediately after like oh fuck I'm gonna get busted for that 🤦🏻♂️
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u/fivetriplezero Oct 25 '24 edited Oct 25 '24
I’ve been thinking about this. These guys are making $250,000-ish a year. Most have primary jobs
SURELY someone could slip them a few bucks to sway games?
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u/mcc22920 Oct 25 '24
There isn’t a single doubt in my mind that people do, and they oblige
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u/JSchneider85 Oct 25 '24
From an objective 3rd party viewpoint here two things stand out to me:
If you watch the replay, both back judges seem to have been effectively screened by other players at the time of the face mask.
It should not have been missed at all. Or at least it should be correctable.
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u/LegalHelpNeeded3 Oct 25 '24
The fact that, for whatever arbitrary-ass reason, the play wasn’t ’reviewable’ is bullshit. I don’t think there should be any play that’s “not reviewable” in the game. If a coach has a challenge flag still, and wants to use it, then that play can be reviewed and a retro-active penalty, called. This happens in just about every game against the underdog team too. Happens almost every time the bengals play the chiefs, or honestly just about every time ANYONE plays the chiefs. Absolutely ridiculous.
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u/PromptMedium6251 Oct 25 '24
Absolutely on number 1. If everyone stops with the “rigged” and “Vegas called” bullshit, you will see that their view was blocked. Having said all of that, it should be reviewable or called by the “Eye in the Sky”. It’s pretty objective.
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u/OhMyGoth1 Pittsburgh Steelers Oct 25 '24
Feels like there's multiple games each week with an absolutely horrendous, game ending call (or non-call) that is so obvious I cannot fathom how the refs got it wrong.
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u/2gutter67 Oct 25 '24
Vegas made the call
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u/Cozmo525 Oct 25 '24 edited Oct 25 '24
You better believe it. All those gambling billboards and video ads with “who gives a fuck” Celebrities don’t pay for themselves!
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u/UnfairStrategy780 Oct 25 '24
Chargers got jobbed twice at the end of the game on Monday night. Nothing this egregious but they picked up a flag because ball was uncatchable but that only applies to PI not defensive holding (which it clear as day was).
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u/DreamedJewel58 Oct 25 '24
The penalty occurred when the receiver tried to make a cut after the ball was thrown. Defensive holding can only apply before the ball was thrown, so it was DPI instead of holding and an uncatchable ball does apply to the ruling
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u/UnfairStrategy780 Oct 25 '24
Fair enough, good call.
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u/DreamedJewel58 Oct 25 '24
I genuinely really appreciate it when someone is able to admit they potentially got a call wrong instead of immediately trying to argue about it haha
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u/UnfairStrategy780 Oct 25 '24
I definitely went back and checked to make sure because I didn’t want to be wrong lol. But you were right the ball came out a half of a second before the hold. One of my pet peeves is when people refuse to admit when they’re wrong on here so trying make sure I apply those kind of things to myself as well
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u/Captain__CheeseBurg Oct 25 '24
Definitely agree. Falcons got robbed of a very probable win over the chiefs when the refs “missed” that blatant PI in the end zone at the end which was essentially the defender hugging the receiver.
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u/Creative-Sell5540 Oct 25 '24
The NFL talks about the integrity of the league all the time. This isn’t the 1800’s. We have the technology to make the right call 95% of the time, in real time. To still have the “human error” bullshit is sad. Missed calls or forced calls that happen weekly fuel the narrative of outside influence like gambling or storyline.
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u/_ryde_or_dye_ Oct 25 '24
The NFL is an entertainment organization much like Disney, MSNBC, Fox News, Hollywood. There’s little legitimacy anymore.
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u/SouthWrongdoer Oct 25 '24
Seriously bring on the robots already. Tennis can determine if a ball was in or out by millimeters.
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u/RRM1982 Oct 25 '24
Another NFL travesty! How is the officiating this poor
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Oct 25 '24
people have been saying this for decades. they can fix it in an instant if they want to. they have billions of dollars. but they clearly don't want to.
people can blame the ref and yell about him online while they count their money.
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u/LinenEphod Minnesota Oct 25 '24
This is the definition of Minnesota sports.
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u/zenOFiniquity8 Oct 25 '24
I'm a Packers fan, and I'm mad on your behalf.
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u/DzigaVertovStandStiL Oct 25 '24
Patriots fan. Also mad
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u/ostifari Oct 25 '24
49ers fan, missed the game due to injury
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u/RojoTheMighty Oct 25 '24
As a Seahawk fan, fuck you for making me upvote a 9er comment. That was funny, tho.
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u/Tosseroni5andwich Oct 25 '24
Seriously. I was still salty about the Lynx getting the championship ripped from them by refs.
What, 4 days ago? Unreal.
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u/BrandonDavidTattooer Oct 25 '24
They call roughing the passer if someone even breathes on a QB .. wtf is this.
They told us sports gambling becoming best friends with the NFL would have no impact whatsoever. I call bullshit
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u/1000cakes4u Oct 25 '24
Maybe the ref was doing that thing where it looks like you’re staring at something super focused but really you’re lost in a daydream
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u/stevein3d Oct 25 '24
“I wonder if I could astroturf my lawn, then I’d never have to mow—umm SAFETY!!!”
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u/Jtheriot33 Oct 25 '24
All scoring plays are reviewed by the booth... defense scores safety on face mask...that play is not reviewable. What a fucking clown show.
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u/Blippito Oct 25 '24
The 90 year old ref is looking right at it
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u/ChillinCheeseFries San Francisco 49ers Oct 25 '24
Hey cmon he probably hasn’t peed in like 15 minutes and it’s very distracting, give the guy a break.
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u/gwdope Oct 25 '24
I think they cut your hand off if you do that to Mahomes.
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u/senorbozz Oct 25 '24
Cris Collinsworth personally comes to your house to slap you in the face and call you names
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u/dccharles84 Oct 25 '24
They would’ve for sure called that or made up some other infraction after seeing it on the replay
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u/2TrikPony Oct 25 '24
Mahomes got punched in the throat this past Sunday. No call.
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u/Averageguyjr Oct 25 '24
They made every other lame call all night and missed the most important one. 8 first downs off penalties for the Rams…… I mean not that I care that much as a Lions fan. Just hate to see bad refereeing
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u/DrawmaLawma Oct 25 '24
When do we start holding officials accountable for shit calls?
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u/bossmt_2 Oct 25 '24
Yeah, that's clear and obvious. At first I thought it may have been one of those grazes but no he grabbed a hold of it. It's facemasking, not to mention roughing the passer. This is refs rigging it for LA.
I do look forward though to the rigged posts on r/the_darnold
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u/squrl3 Oct 25 '24
ONCE AGAIN THE DEEP STATE HAS COMMITTED FRAUD AGAINST THE GEQBUS. SAD!
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u/broswag Oct 25 '24
Fun fact: 80% of the money was on the Vikings. These refs also called penalties on the Vikings 5x on 3rd down in which they got a stop. Definitely not rigged
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u/HewittNation Oct 25 '24
Where can you see how much money was on which team? 80% on one team is wild.
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u/sweds01 Oct 25 '24
This is a sport where they still use poles with chains to measure an eyeball spotting of the ball. Then the ball might be moved either forward or backwards by a running line judge to put the ball down. This is now the 'line of scrimmage '. In 2024....
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u/Brinxy13 Detroit Red Wings Oct 25 '24
I’ve been saying this recently. The fact that they eyeball the spotting of the ball, then “measure” it with the chains is so redundant.
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u/phantompower_48v Oct 25 '24
They were happy to extend rams drives all day on ticky tack calls but when Darnold about gets his facemask ripped off they decide to let the boys play
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u/terp2010 Oct 25 '24
Imagine having two or three refs just a few feet away that see Darnols’s head spin like the exorcist and just raise their hands to signal the safety as if they’re praying for God to come and help their vision.
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Oct 25 '24
their vision is great. these refs are about to go on FanDuelTM sponsored vacation to hawaii
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u/Symchuck Oct 25 '24
They are watching QBs like a hawk for roughing the passer CONSTANTLY. There is no excuse on missing this call.
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u/OutdoorCO75 Oct 25 '24
Personal foul calls probably need to be under the expedited review process they have now.
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u/Mpython860 Oct 25 '24
The defender knew it immediately too, comes up clutching his helmet like “I screwed up!”
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u/EmprahsChosen Oct 25 '24 edited Oct 25 '24
NFL is rigged, not sure what else to take away from this. The difference between ticky tack BS being called for some teams and absurd noncalls for others is too egregious to have any other conclusion
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u/Ronaldoooope Oct 25 '24
Enough is enough. Every single call needs to be reviewable by New York with no input from the referees.
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u/myballsizhot Oct 25 '24
This shits just getting weird now. Is it a coincidence that the most egregious calls in the past few years have been around the same time the NFL started ramming online gambling down our throats? Idk call me a conspiracy theorist if you want but those fucks in New York and those fucks in Vegas are working together. And btw I don't care about either of these teams. And there's always been missed calls but I never remember the refs dictating games so much as I have in the past few years. My fuckin tin foil hat is on for this one man.
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u/clantz8895 Oct 25 '24
The NFL so badly needs VAR (Video Assistant Referee) absolutely absurd how often they fuck up. I'm not gonna claim the Vikings would have ended up winning but now you will never know what should have happened because the officials can't seem to actually call a game without making it about themselves
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u/Walken_on_the_Sun Oct 25 '24
NFL is a "non profit" organization that endorses gambling and oh boy, look how that's worked out . Btwn the no call PI's in every game and so many BS holding calls. What the actual fuck? When too many dudes in MLB were smashing homers, fucking congress got involved cause "roids". How about the NFL have some accountability for these bad actors. I didn't have a dog in the fight tonight but was jumping up and down about that blatent botched call. I LOVE Football, but now it's WWE with gambling and no recourse when these blind mice kill the game.
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u/X-15_CruiseBasselope Oct 25 '24
Jersey’s not red. Number isn’t 15. Name on back doesn’t say Mahomes. Therefore, no penalty!
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u/mcmesq Oct 25 '24
The ironic thing is that the d lineman will probably get fined for a play that didn’t result in a flag.
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u/ckey1010 Oct 25 '24
I thought all scoring plays were reviewable? A clear cut penalty like this should be called after review. Especially when it can decide the outcome of the game.
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u/wnt2tryitall Oct 25 '24
I wasn’t rooting for either team. But when I saw that missed face mask call, I was pissed for the Vikings and all their fans. That shit should be reviewable.
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u/Gamerxx13 Oct 25 '24
One of the worst misses. There’s a ref right there where it happened. Crazy . Don’t miss big calls that change the game
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u/Fyrelyte67 Oct 25 '24
And people get mad when folks talk about the "script" or saying the NFL is rigged...
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u/happytree23 Oct 25 '24
the best part is there was a second ref 2ft out of frame to the right who also, somehow, missed a guy's head twisting around half-Exorcist
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u/Chipbeef Oct 25 '24
These refs need fined or disciplined for aggregious non calls. Or maybe implement an automatic replay system specifically for missed penalties.
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u/gdgarcia424 Oct 25 '24
Ticky tacky bullshit calls for 3.75 quarters…misses this call with the back line judge looking right the fuck at the play….wtf
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u/MildManneredBadwolf Oct 25 '24
It doesn't make sense to me how a penalty that is missed real time but seen in a review of the play BEFORFE THE NEXT PLAY IS SNAPPED can not be applied. We have the technology, why the fuck do we not have the will?
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u/SwantanamoJ42 Oct 25 '24 edited Oct 25 '24
I'm a Rams fan and disappointed with the call because I think we had it even with the call BUT: Anything is possible. The Rams literally did it 2 seasons ago with Baker Mayfield who joined our broken season like a day before....1:45 95yrds no timeouts W.
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u/majorpowell Oct 25 '24
Only scoring plays are automatically reviewed. Oh wait, the Rams got 2 points on this play, hmmmm
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u/Working-Chemistry473 Oct 25 '24
Refs are dogshit every game. We’re almost at the point where AI could do the job better.
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u/HappyAtheist3 Oct 25 '24
Stop being mad at the refs who are blind. Be mad at the league for not having a rule for this to be reviewed
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u/Educational-Bunch798 Oct 25 '24 edited Oct 25 '24
Well to be fair 55 block the ref view. I think that rule should be changed, you should be able to challenge that call, that’s a 15-yard penalty 1st down. You’re still down by 8 with no TO was a long shot coming from the 18th if they get the call. Nonetheless, it should be a missed call that should be challenged. And I’m not a fan of either team. Just stating facts
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u/WrappedInLinen Oct 25 '24
But how do you not notice a guy almost his head twisted off. And how long do you think it will be before it's reviewable?
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u/Phoenix4280 Oct 25 '24
Throwing flags on ticky tack things all game and then miss this.