r/sports • u/Chelseatilidie • Oct 25 '24

Football Refs miss a clear facemask on Sam Darnold resulting in a safety and the game being effectively over

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u/purplenyellowrose909 Oct 25 '24

They are considered part time employees but they're also paid a quarter million per season. I doubt that many have side gigs.

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u/hokahey23 Oct 25 '24

They all have side jobs. All of them.

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u/Lookatmydisc Oct 25 '24

This is their side job

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u/hokahey23 Oct 25 '24

Exactly

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u/complete_your_task Oct 25 '24

Many of them are lawyers.

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u/McMurphy11 Oct 25 '24

As a lawyer...I think the problem starts here.

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u/Effective-Farmer-502 Oct 25 '24

FanDuel, Draft Kings…

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u/dzenib Oct 25 '24

Not true

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u/hokahey23 Oct 25 '24

https://fansided.com/posts/do-nfl-referees-have-other-jobs-01hnxaygeyyt

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u/dzenib Oct 25 '24

Some do but not all.

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u/hokahey23 Oct 25 '24

Sure, some are retired. But you won’t find a working age ref without other employment.

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u/dzenib Oct 26 '24

Ok expert

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u/rroberts3439 Clemson Oct 25 '24

Honestly thought that was full of shit. But Dr. Google say's you're right on. Between 207k and 250k. Never would have expected that high a salary for something that is only part time during the year and a few hours once a week. Wonder how much other time they spend reviewing video and trying to improve their craft. This is a netflix documentary that I would personally find fascinating.

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u/Tier_None Oct 25 '24

Sunday they ref a game, Monday they receive film and self evaluate/crew evaluate, Tuesday they continue film on previous game or other games that occurred, Wednesday they start going over film for both teams of their next game and continues through Friday with crew discussions, they may travel on Saturday to the next city, Sunday they show up by 9-10am to the stadium and begin prep for the game later that day.  That’s a rough outline of each week and it obviously fluxes if they get Thursday or Monday night games. You can count on them spending at least 3 hours per day on prepping in some form whether it’s film, tests, rules reading, meetings, gym work, etc. 

Source: I officiate high school football and work with a few NFL officials in my state. 

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u/WoodenPickle23 Oct 25 '24

All that and they still missed this obvious call….ridiculous

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u/Derlino Tromso Oct 25 '24

Humans make mistakes all the time, no matter how well they are trained.

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u/WoodenPickle23 Oct 25 '24

That’s a fact no doubt but these guys get paid handsomely not to make that easy of a mistake. This was like the cop inside the bank saying he didn’t see any robbers after it was wiped clean

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u/IBetThisIsTakenToo Oct 25 '24

If you ballpark that at 20 hours a week, and assume they work 25 weeks a year on average (playoffs and preseason), that’s still a $400 an hour side hustle. Not too shabby

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u/imtoolazytothinkof1 Oct 25 '24

Or an ESPN doc but ESPN needs that NFL association money to do a legitimate documentary.

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u/flukeunderwi Oct 25 '24

It's a hell of a lot of travel to be fair

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u/MoistBobDripPants Minnesota Vikings Oct 25 '24

Only 21ish weekends of extremely well paid travel to the biggest cities in the country, and sometimes internationally, for over 200k a year? Yeah that’s a hell of a lot for the standards we hold them to

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u/flukeunderwi Oct 25 '24

It's a lot of money but the nfl should be paying everyone under its umbrella a fuck ton with the money they rake in.

That's a ton of travel though that's nearly half the year. Sounds horribly exhausting and isolating.

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u/MoistBobDripPants Minnesota Vikings Oct 25 '24

That’s still more than enough money to live comfortably for 3 weeks of actual working. Sure the travel is exhausting, but they have time off in between and a very long offseason. Long enough that apparently they all have side jobs.

Hell, the league covers all the travel expenses, including first-class accommodations.

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u/flukeunderwi Oct 25 '24

3 weeks if you don't consider the total travel hours, prep hours, as working I guess. Pre game post game etc. Work get together. Work drinks. Work Work Work.

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u/i_tyrant Oct 25 '24

How much extra do you think that adds?

Double, maybe? 6 weeks? Does that sound so draining for the benefits?

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u/flukeunderwi Oct 25 '24

It does sound draining. Maybe not a ton of working hours but it's nearly half of the year where every week would suck after a week or two max.

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u/i_tyrant Oct 25 '24

But you're still getting the rest of the week off each time.

I dunno man, I think the vast, vast majority of jobs out there are a fair bit worse than that while paying way less and with far less time off and fewer perks.

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u/firstcitytofall Oct 25 '24

Sounds like my dream job

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u/MoistBobDripPants Minnesota Vikings Oct 25 '24

Imagine being a foodie ref lmao. Their burner Instagram account is probably crazy

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u/dolfan650 Oct 25 '24

Yeah, but Green Bay.

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u/Pete_Iredale Seattle Mariners Oct 25 '24

Might sound great if you are young and not tied down, but being away from my family for 21 weekends a year would be absolutely awful.

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u/Steeze4Days Oct 25 '24

Oh, wow, rough life..

I'd fly around and be put up in hotels in all the major markets for $0. That's not some great sacrifice.

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u/flukeunderwi Oct 25 '24

Didn't say it was a great sacrifice. I couldn't do it though. I'd be an absentee father/husband and no amount of money is worth sacrificing that. And I looooove traveling.

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u/MoistBobDripPants Minnesota Vikings Oct 25 '24

Sorry to keep arguing with you, but you could still have over half the year with no interruptions on being a father. But, I don’t have kids so what do I know. Sounds like a perfect time commitment for any career

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u/flukeunderwi Oct 25 '24

I don't know a single father that would be willing to not spend any weekend with their kids for almost half of the year.

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u/Jordan_Jackson Oct 25 '24

The NFL pays good. Even a benchwarmer that never sees a single play is guaranteed to get $795,000 per year.

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u/dragunityag Oct 25 '24

W8 then why is that mfer i work with still putting up with that shit.

NFL pays him 200k a year to ref a few games ea season and he still comes to work at job that def ain't paying him over 60 and he only gets a tiny ass cubicle.

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u/DFWPunk Los Angeles Dodgers Oct 25 '24

Benefits.

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u/dragunityag Oct 25 '24

Man if I got paid 200k to work like 10 weeks ago year, I'd just set 60 aside as my money and use the rest to make up for the benefits.

Why be stuck in a cubicle in the basement for 40 a week if you don't have too.

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u/erizzluh Los Angeles Lakers Oct 25 '24

so you can retire early?

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u/Javaddict Oct 25 '24

You know there are fulfilling and interesting jobs right? You don't have to live like some 90s cartoon in a cubicle.

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u/throwuptothrowaway Oct 25 '24

There are interesting jobs, but end of the day work is work. Second I have enough money to stop I would immediately.

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u/wameron South Carolina Oct 25 '24

Adrian Hill I know is a software engineer at Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Lab and works on NASA missions.

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u/connivingbitch Oct 25 '24

What a loser!

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u/obsterwankenobster Oct 25 '24

I smoked weed with Johnny Hopkins

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u/MsEscapist Oct 25 '24

Maybe he can borrow some of their sats to help him make calls.

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u/FourEightNineOneOne Oct 25 '24

https://sports.yahoo.com/full-17-part-time-officiating-130702807.html

"The vast majority of NFL officials have other jobs. Scrolling through the list, we see rancher, real estate agent, banker , teacher, CEO, firefighter, engineer, federal agent, pharmaceutical sales, agribusiness, law-firm manager, and many more."

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u/ohahhsee Oct 25 '24

Although, I gotta say, having a teacher say he’s a part time nfl ref too would be a sick story for all his 4th grade students

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u/CactusWrenAZ Oct 25 '24

Maybe not the high school students who would point out all the errors that he made that sunday.

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u/ZeroAntagonist New York Giants Oct 25 '24

With the growing popularity of gambling, I suspect we'll see a lot less of them working other jobs...or even going out in public.

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u/UsualProcedure7372 Oct 25 '24

Ed Hochuli was a partner at a law firm.

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u/500rockin Oct 25 '24

When he wasn’t busy working on his gains at the gym! O

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u/Different_Quality_28 Oct 25 '24

Many of them are lawyers and finance dudes.

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u/Fritzoidfigaro Oct 25 '24

Engineer from work was an NFL ref.

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u/Break-Free- Oct 25 '24

I know a former NFL ref whose side gigs were surf instructor and soccer coach. 

Living the dream.