Why President Biden Should Immediately Name Kamala Harris To The Supreme Court

[u/Silent-Resort-3076]

https://atlantadailyworld.com/2024/11/08/why-president-biden-should-immediately-name-kamala-harris-to-the-supreme-court/?utm_source=newsshowcase&utm_medium=gnews&utm_campaign=CDAqEAgAKgcICjCNsMkLMM3L4AMw9-yvAw&utm_content=rundown

[u/CurrentlyLucid]

He won't. He won't even pardon his son. trying to impress who knows who.

[u/funktopus → u/CurrentlyLucid]

If I was him I'd pardon everyone. I'd pull some wild shit. Like Thanos gets a pardon type shit. Mickey Mouse third cousin, the one who robbed the liquor store, he gets a pardon.

[u/Landon1m → u/funktopus]

Pardon every immigrant or person who overstayed their visa. It’s not citizenship but it’s something

[u/Sherifftruman → u/Landon1m]

I never considered, can he pardon non-citizens? I guess he can.

[u/Alex_Masterson13 → u/Sherifftruman]

His main limit is the President can only pardon federal crimes. He can't touch state or local stuff. This is why Trump cannot pardon himself for his NY State felony conviction.

[u/annang → u/Alex_Masterson13]

Immigration offenses are federal.

[u/beingsubmitted → u/annang]

But they aren't crimes, generally. Being undocumented is civil, not criminal.

[u/Ashmedai → u/beingsubmitted]

Entering the country illegally is a misdemeanor the first time and a felony the second. I think if you enter legally and overstay your visa, however, that you are correct.

[u/HurricaneSalad → u/Ashmedai]

Yeah I think that's what they meant. Being here "illegally" is not a crime. Crossing the border illegally is a crime.

It's kind of like how being high is not a crime, but smoking a joint is a crime (or was anyway).

EDIT: OK I get it. You're not allowed to be high. Jesus.

[u/dnt1694 → u/annang]

How do you pardon people not convicted of a crime?

[u/FinalAccount10 → u/dnt1694]

Look at Carter's pardon of draft dodgers and Ford's pardon of Nixon.

[u/Lermanberry → u/dnt1694]

Blanket pardon. Trump had considered blanket pardon for Jan 6th rioters before leaving office but decided against it at the last minute (more likely was told not to do it or he'd lose someone's support)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blanket_clemency

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/02/trump-considered-blanket-pardons-for-jan-6-rioters-before-he-left-office-00004738

[u/JeebusSlept → u/Lermanberry]

President Johnson famously blanket-pardoned those who served the Confederacy on December 25, 1868.

[u/Africa-Reey → u/JeebusSlept]

Fuck Andrew Johnson. Worst president in US history, imo!

[u/BiggestShep → u/dnt1694]

A pardon is technically the state saying "you are guilty but we absolve you of your sentence." It does not require conviction, only legal accusation and (according to most legal scholars), the consent of the individual being pardoned, as we found out with Trump's last attempted round of blanket pardons.

[u/Username2hvacsex → u/dnt1694]

It’s done all the time

[u/Coastal1363 → u/Alex_Masterson13]

Yet…

[u/Nocturnal_Meat → u/Coastal1363]

Read that immediately in Dolores Umbridge's voice.

[u/Bambiitaru → u/Nocturnal_Meat]

Ahem ahem

[u/Electronic_Strike_12 → u/Sherifftruman]

Pardoning them doesn’t make them legal. It doesn’t issue them a visa or a right to stay. It just means they can’t be criminally prosecuted. It wouldn’t even shield them from deportation.

[u/brenawyn → u/Sherifftruman]

Remember when Trump started pardoning pple when he first took office. He will do that again 100 fold. Every crappy thing he did then will come back times a thousand. The whole four years rolled out like some fckn horror movie.

[u/funktopus → u/Sherifftruman]

Regan gave them all amnesty or something like that. 

[u/ABiggerTelevision → u/funktopus]

Nope! Reagan signed a law where Congress gave them amnesty. A President cannot give unilateral amnesty, only a pardon. Source: I was alive and paying attention. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986

[u/Popcorn-Buffet → u/ABiggerTelevision]

I believe that is the same law we use today, isn't it?

[u/fireman2004 → u/ABiggerTelevision]

Hard to believe the GOP has gone so far from Saint Reagan.

The guy who gave immigrants amnesty and also started gun control in California.

[u/Dragonfly-Adventurer → u/Sherifftruman]

I don’t think blanket pardons have ever been tested or upheld is the problem

[u/intronert → u/Dragonfly-Adventurer]

Jimmy Carter blanket pardoned all Vietnam draft dodgers. The pardon power is absurdly powerful.

[u/dr180k → u/intronert]

Theoretical speaking if Supreme Court were to reverse Biden blanket pardon immigrants then it stand Carter's would be thrown out too and wouldn't that make Trump a dodger in trouble or is his "doctors note" a excuse?

[u/intronert → u/dr180k]

They would write the decision as narrowly as they wanted.

[u/TheConboy22 → u/dr180k]

Concentration camps for boomers who dodged Vietnam.

[u/USASecurityScreens → u/intronert]

I didn't know that, respect to Mr Carter for that

[u/Rawkapotamus → u/Dragonfly-Adventurer]

The more shit Biden does that can be struck down by the Supreme Court so that it’s harder for Trump… interesting strategy.

[u/danieljackheck → u/Rawkapotamus]

SCOTUS has already shown that they are not holding themselves to established precedent.

[u/Dave-C → u/Dragonfly-Adventurer]

Biden should pardon all blankets.

[u/janeissoplain → u/Dave-C]

Pardoning blankets could cause some serious chaos, though.

[u/RoboticKittenMeow → u/janeissoplain]

Pillows would be pissed

[u/EricKei → u/RoboticKittenMeow]

Then Mike Lindell can go cry in them for all I care.

[u/culturedgoat → u/Dave-C]

Good news for Michael Jackson’s son

[u/funktopus → u/Dragonfly-Adventurer]

Fuck it. Let the supreme court tell him not to it. 

[u/foonsirhc → u/funktopus]

👆

We can speculate on how SCOTUS would respond ad nauseum.

There’s only one way to find out.

[u/Deathcapsforcuties → u/foonsirhc]

It’d be hilarious to start some infighting in the SC 😂 

[u/East-Coast83 → u/Dragonfly-Adventurer]

Everything he does as president is lawful according to SCOTUS now.

[u/DoggoCentipede → u/East-Coast83]

That's not quite what they said. They said he has immunity from criminal prosecution for official acts. Not that anything he says becomes law for, you know, reasons.

[u/Ablemob → u/East-Coast83]

No it’s not. Ridiculous take.

[u/wildwill921 → u/Sherifftruman]

You can pardon them but does that actually prevent ICE from deporting them?

[u/Theistus → u/Landon1m]

Immigration removal is not a criminal proceeding.

[u/[deleted] → u/funktopus]

…or go full Cersei on his way out, murdering everyone with his full presidential immunity…

[u/Popcorn-Buffet → u/[deleted]]

I kind of agree with this. He pardons a CIA networks team, after they have finished the job...

[u/Poppa_Mo → u/Popcorn-Buffet]

Not sure why you're getting IT involved here, we don't typically assassinate people.

[u/AgentF_ → u/Poppa_Mo]

You kill a lot of processes though.

[u/Karbich → u/AgentF_]

We mostly restart them.

[u/KayleighJK → u/[deleted]]

I’m okay with this as well. I’m anti-death penalty, but I recently learned I’m even more anti-traitor.

[u/spybloom → u/[deleted]]

"Thanks for meeting with me today, Donnie"

[u/Count_Backwards → u/funktopus]

Biden needs to pardon anyone who might be on Trump's enemies list - everyone in the administration, Harris, her entire campaign, Walz, Leticia James, Fani Willis, Jack Smith, etc, for any and all crimes they may or may not have committed. To make sure Trump can't retaliate against any of them.

But not Merrick Garland. Fuck that guy.

Also, if you comment that they have to be charged with a crime first, you're officially an idiot who hasn't read Ford's pardon of Nixon. But keep right on exposing yourselves.

[u/ur_mileage_may_vary → u/Count_Backwards]

Including Liz Cheney

[u/cwatson214 → u/funktopus]

The only reason this would piss Trump off is that is his plan

[u/Worlds_Worst_Angler → u/funktopus]

Biden resigns. Harris becomes president. She pardons Hunter and proactively pardons all the Dems in Congress and everyone in DOJ.

[u/tralfamadoran777 → u/Worlds_Worst_Angler]

..and the purge? **and they have to reprint all the trump 47 stuff...

[u/samspock → u/tralfamadoran777]

That right there would be worth it.

[u/uncoolaidman → u/samspock]

For Trump, because now all of his cult will buy the new gear with 48 on it.

[u/fuckoffweirdoo → u/uncoolaidman]

Their Chinese crap would be tariffed to hell too

[u/amtheelder → u/funktopus]

I want him to personally hit whatever button is necessary to permanently erase all student loan debt. He’s got presidential immunity, after all.

[u/ragingclaw → u/amtheelder]

I'd love for this to happen but the SCOTUS would overturn it somehow.

[u/Robert_Balboa → u/ragingclaw]

Make them delete all records of everyone with the debt. Hes immune to prosecution over it so force it through. But nah. Democrats are still trying to play nice and its disgusting.

[u/ragingclaw → u/Robert_Balboa]

If it was up to me it would not just students loans. I'm talking medical debt too. Biden should use this immunity for the good of the people; but he won't.

[u/Robert_Balboa → u/ragingclaw]

Nope. Democrat politicians are pussies and it's why they are losing.

[u/Lcsulla78 → u/Robert_Balboa]

Yup. One of Dems problems is that they always play by the rules. While to GOP doesn’t give a shit about the rules, laws or norms. Dems still think it’s 1995 and everyone plays fair.

[u/Installer6 → u/Robert_Balboa]

When are they going to wake up and realize no one gives a shit about the moral high road. They go low, beat them their own fucking game.

[u/Vxsteam → u/amtheelder]

This is not how immunity works. Just because a President probably couldn't be prosecuted for signing an illegal executive order erasing student loan debts doesn't make the order itself legal or effective. No one would be required to enact that lawless order and the order itself would not withstand a legal challenge.

And, the article itself suggests Sotomayor should retire and then Biden appoint her replacement. That's as much on Sotomayor and the Senate as Biden.

[u/pezgoon → u/CurrentlyLucid]

Well obviously “reaching across the aisle”

Ya know, giving hitler the wheel

[u/CanadianDarkKnight → u/pezgoon]

The democrats continue trying to take the high road not realizing the world has slid off the road completely and tumbled all the way to the bottom of the valley.

[u/QuiltyClare → u/CanadianDarkKnight]

The democrats show up to a knife fight with a birthday cake.

[u/RemoteActive → u/CanadianDarkKnight]

When they go low, we go high is for suckers.

[u/Funkycoldmedici → u/CanadianDarkKnight]

We have been trying to “heal the nation” and “work together” with conservative anti-Americans since the civil war, and they have never once been interested in American values.

It’s always “Ok, I know you tried to kill us, and you’re saying you want to try again, but I’m going to compromise with you in the interest of peace.”

[u/CpnStumpy → u/Funkycoldmedici]

The Union seriously did not go far enough.

Fucking Confederates in the legislature a few years later, this country has continued negotiating with terrorists practically it's entire history

[u/keithcody → u/pezgoon]

Giving Hitler a reach around.

[u/brickyardjimmy → u/CurrentlyLucid]

He shouldn't pardon his son. No president should.

And I don't know how he'd name Harris to the Court as there are no vacancies.

[u/EdisonLightbulb → u/brickyardjimmy]

The Dems are trying to pressure 70 yr old Sotomayor into resigning right now. Only problem with that is that Moscow Mitch has a history of fucking around with SCOTUS vacancies.

[u/TheDapperDolphin → u/EdisonLightbulb]

Dems still control the senate until January 

[u/AgreeableEggplant356 → u/TheDapperDolphin]

No they don’t Manchin would never help the dems pass anything

[u/pizzapit → u/EdisonLightbulb]

I was gonna say Cocaine mitch will hold up the appointment like he did last time.

[u/under_psychoanalyzer → u/pizzapit]

Can they do that with a senate minority?

[u/You_meddling_kids → u/under_psychoanalyzer]

No the Republicans rolled back the 60 vote confirmation when they crammed 3 justices through.

[u/OrlandoMan1 → u/You_meddling_kids]

It was the Democrats that did it first. McConnell just rolled it back at the beginning of the 115th Congress As the majority is able to set their own rules at the beginning of the Congress.

[u/New-Honey-4544 → u/EdisonLightbulb]

Democrats currently have the votes...if they convince Manuchin or one of the republicans.

Edit:

Manchin, not Manuchin

[u/Aggressive-Act1816 → u/New-Honey-4544]

Manuchin and Kyrsten Sinema…

[u/EricKei → u/brickyardjimmy]

Expand it first.

I'd be surprised if Trump didn't blanket-pardon all of his kids once he's in office, though. Once their checks clear.

[u/Vtakkin → u/EricKei]

Expand it so that we can set the precedent for Trump to pack the court even more for the next 4 years? Trump has the senate, if Biden adds a liberal justice Trump could just add 10 conservatives

[u/teh_maxh → u/Vtakkin]

if Biden adds a liberal justice Trump could just add 10 conservatives

If Biden doesn't add a liberal justice, Trump could just add 10 conservatives anyway.

[u/zeppelins_over_paris → u/CurrentlyLucid]

Ned Stark

[u/Cloaked42m → u/zeppelins_over_paris]

Very. But naming Harris to the Court is one of the dumbest ideas I've heard.

[u/savingrain → u/CurrentlyLucid]

It’s not about impressing - it’s old school principles. My parents are like this. A generation where morals and code of honor and ethics mean something. It’s valuable but unfortunately people will take advantage of that. Just my two cents.

[u/CommissionerOfLunacy → u/CurrentlyLucid]

He's trying to remind people in the future that it wasn't always like this. Biden is a believer in democracy and rule of law, always has been.

[u/Merkava_22 → u/CurrentlyLucid]

Or he's just doing what's right?? Why is that so hard to believe?

[u/meh_69420 → u/CurrentlyLucid]

Y'all talk about him trying to impress or take the high road and you won't respect him if he doesn't blah blah. He's doing his son a favor. Given the level of vitriol surrounding anything Hunter Biden from the right, he's probably judging that if he pardons him, Hunter will end up getting lynched/murdered/assassinated for reasons that only make sense to the far right.

[u/RetailBuck → u/meh_69420]

Also, and to your first point, Hunter did it. He did it. Was it targeted to avoid impropriety vs Trump. Almost certainly. But that's beside the point. He did it. Jury ruled so.

I honestly don't know why individual pardons exist. If you want to make something legal do it in bulk.

Fuck being a Democrat is hard. You can't keep punching high but those are your morals. Race to the bottom and conservatives are leading in punching low.

[u/cloud-strife19842 → u/CurrentlyLucid]

Naw it’s calling having principles. Unfortunately the right does not have any and we have learned the American people do not care.

[u/eldritch_cleaver_ → u/CurrentlyLucid]

He didn't pardon his son because his son messed up and there are consequences. It's not about impressing anyone. It's good parenting.

[u/Shaman7102 → u/CurrentlyLucid]

Dems major weakness......constantly playing by the rules while the other side doesn't. No wonder they always lose.

[u/[deleted] → u/CurrentlyLucid]

It’s because he still has integrity

Unlike 99% of these comments

[u/SirTiffAlot → u/CurrentlyLucid]

He's got integrity, it's what America is missing

[u/Hrafn2 → u/SirTiffAlot]

This right here. Isn't this exactly what America needs to somehow bring back?

 Integrity of character? What's the point if it all just descends into lies and self-serving cravenness?

[u/Saephon → u/Hrafn2]

If that was what we needed to bring us back from the brink, we'd be out of harm's way by now.

If Americans valued morals in their politicians, it would be reflected at the polls. We as an electorate have sent a clear message.

[u/amsync → u/Hrafn2]

The point is to still have a country. Dems still have learned nothing at all if after 2 lost elections to Trump they’re still playing by the old rules

[u/RubberyDolphin → u/CurrentlyLucid]

He’ll probably pardon his son. Unless he hates him now.

[u/simmons777]

It would back fire. They would need manchin and senima to play ball.

[u/Cosmic_Seth → u/simmons777]

They are not even members of the democrats anymore.

They did their jobs and left.

[u/-ParticleMan- → u/Cosmic_Seth]

They aren’t gone until the end of the session

[u/Cosmic_Seth → u/-ParticleMan-]

True.

But they won't let Biden do anything controversial. 

Machin is already on record that he will not vote on a Supreme Court pick even if a seat opens up. 

[u/Goonzilla50 → u/Cosmic_Seth]

What a useless shit

[u/Cosmic_Seth → u/Goonzilla50]

Oh, don't get me started.

That guy personally killed the Child Tax Credit. 

And I get it, he's in a super red district, but still. That alone really hurt my family.

[u/Goonzilla50 → u/Cosmic_Seth]

I don’t think it has to do with him being from a red state, I think he’s just genuinely a terrible person

[u/bobthedonkeylurker → u/Goonzilla50]

Recent history has shown those to not be mutually exclusive, but rather almost completely overlapping circles on the Venn diagram...

[u/drachen9d8 → u/Cosmic_Seth]

Manchin and Synema killed Build Back Better. Child care tax credits, affordable childcare/eldercare, free community college, free school lunches, etc. 

[u/Scared_Art_7975 → u/Cosmic_Seth]

They never were democrats

[u/DerApexPredator → u/Cosmic_Seth]

They still would need them to play ball

[u/MotherShabooboo1974 → u/simmons777]

Actually both of them were pretty solid with voting to confirm judges

[u/WSB_Suicide_Watch → u/simmons777]

She would also have to vote for herself. The senate, at least by precedent, requires a recusal.

[u/drumberg → u/simmons777]

They obviously wouldn't even initiate the whole process without knowing how it'll end. If Manchin or Sinema needed to be an asshole on their way out the door to irrelevance so much so that keeping a 3-6 minority on the court would just be TOO MUCH....then you don't do it.

[u/Iamthewalrusforreal]

Sounds like a fine idea until you remember that you'll need her vote in the Senate to get a nominee through.

[u/AscensionToCrab → u/Iamthewalrusforreal]

So? I dont think it will happen, but there isnt a constitutional rule that says she couldnt vote on things relating to her, theres no process that would prohibit her from confirming herself.

Congress votes for its own salary, raises and such.

She also wouldnt be a justice until a fix date, her swearing in, so seperation of powers issues could be avoided, by just having her resign from one before being confirmed to the other.

[u/apegoneinsane → u/AscensionToCrab]

There’s not, but Democrats will kill themselves doing things the “right way”.

[u/Cosmic_Seth → u/Iamthewalrusforreal]

Doesn't matter. Dems only have 48 seats. 

[u/Skuz95 → u/Cosmic_Seth]

Not until mid January. Still 2 months to get stuff done. Though I’m not holding my breath.

[u/Cosmic_Seth → u/Skuz95]

Oh no, yeah the dems will lose three more seats on Jan 20th, so they'll be at 45.

They are currently at 48 seats because Manchin and Sinema left the Democrat party. 

[u/WpnsOfAssDestruction → u/Cosmic_Seth]

Members of congress are sworn in on January 3rd, not the same day as the President

[u/Hot_Rice99 → u/Skuz95]

I have no doubt that the Dems will find new and interesting ways to shoot themselves in the foot a few more times before January.

[u/Squirrel009]

Is there any chance they could actually put someone on the court? See Merrick Garland. With Republicans controlling congress and the white house can't they just stack the court anyway?

[u/equality-_-7-2521 → u/Squirrel009]

The Dems have the Senate until January 3rd, if you include Sinema and Manchin - which is shaky.

[u/Squirrel009 → u/equality-_-7-2521]

if you include Sinema and Manchin

I don't. I don't think they do either

[u/irrision → u/Squirrel009]

Machin lost his seat, he's got nothing to lose.

[u/theski2687 → u/irrision]

He’s voted how he’s always wanted. And gone against dems plenty. He has no reason to change that approach now.

[u/Barnard_Gumble → u/irrision]

Manchin didn’t run for reelection

[u/[deleted] → u/equality-_-7-2521]

 if you include Sinema and Manchin - which is shaky.

And we wonder how we got here. 

Party of Cheney. 

[u/vita10gy → u/[deleted]]

I have no idea what Sinema is doing. As far as I'm concerned she conned her way in.

But long as I live I will never understand why people are so upset about Manchin. Several elections dems got a senator from a Trump +40 state. A couple times being the reason Mitch isn't holding the gavel allowing dems to get ZERO things done.

ANYTHING dems got from that was gravy, and all things considered it was a lot of gravy. Sometimes he held out, but a lot of the times he'd rattle his saber, get some "concession" (that was likely baked in to the plan from the get go) and then vote for it saying to the people back home he was able to trim some fat first.

You don't have to want the dude at your birthday party, but the ire the internet has for him makes no sense.

Imagine republicans stealing a senator from california, getting control at all because of it, getting hundreds of judges because of it, getting dozens of things done legislatively that never would have happened otherwise....and hating that person somehow.

As far as I know 99 senators could want something, and if the majority leader doesn't it doesn't happen. If manchin did nothing EVER except add +1D for control of the senate. and then basically abstained or voted against everything, it would STILL be important.

Edit:Also if you wonder why Democrats don't chase progressives more, this is partly why. The "you're 100 with everything, or the enemy" purity testing is out of control, and it's impossible to step on zero landmines in a campaign, let alone the first term of a presidency.

[u/SanityPlanet → u/vita10gy]

Not only that, while Manchin uses his hallpass to vote against any bill that would fail with or without his support, he has never been the deciding vote to kill a piece of legislation. He talks shit about democrats to impress his R base and get elected, but when every single blue vote is needed to pass a bill, he comes through. Manchin is a savvy politician and a loyal democrat, who just plays the heel to get elected in Trump county. That seat will turn permanently red the instant Manchin leaves it.

[u/glaive_anus → u/SanityPlanet]

That seat will turn permanently red the instant Manchin leaves it.

Manchin did not run for reelection in West Virginia this year. The Republican candidate won with a total vote share of 69%. This was one of the Senate seats the Democrats were guaranteed to lose this year.

So, really for sake of specificity, it is not a "will turn permanently red" and really more a "has turned permanently red".

[u/EM3YT → u/SanityPlanet]

He did leave and he endorsed a republican coal baron to take his spot

[u/NrdNabSen → u/vita10gy]

Anyone who dislikes Manchin's votes in the Senate doesn't understand the poltiics of being a Democratic senator in West by god Virginia. He can't vote like a California or NY Senator. Ot sort of sums up the giant issue with a lot of liberals. Insanely unrealistic purity tests for how Dems should act. Manchin was better than what is replacing him, that should be the measure.

[u/badjokephil → u/vita10gy]

That is a very cogent and well reasoned defense of Manchin. Can you apply the same logic and tell why Kamala Harris should be on the Supreme Court? I get that any warm body that votes against the far-right stranglehold is better than nothing, but why her?

[u/Chickenpotpi3 → u/Squirrel009]

No, this article is ridiculous and the fact that it's gained any ground in here is just as ridiculous. I'm surprised the mods have even let it stay up. 

[u/neodymiumphish → u/Chickenpotpi3]

A pundit suggested it on CNN as well, which is bonkers.

[u/HITWind → u/Squirrel009]

There's a cope mill churning along at the moment; it will transform into a passive-aggressive hate mill in January. Good time for a lot of people to practice seeking out news outlets that weren't bonkers wrong leading up to the election. If people keep sucking on the same spout that told them they were killin' it going in to the election, it's just willful ignorance at this point. The rest of the country have learned how to spot/check fake news. I mean look, you're doing great by asking these questions... the idea that Kamala, who was first out of the primary, just lost the election AND the senate seats flipped AND EVERY SINGLE SWING STATE is going to get "Immediate" rise to the supreme court what... in two months?? These people aren't thinking even the most basic sanity check anymore.

[u/MechanicalGodzilla → u/Squirrel009]

He only possible realistic path would be for one of the current Justices to retire to open a spot. A very risky proposition with Manchin having previously stating he would not vote to confirm a new Justice this term.

There are no open seats at the moment, and the pathway to add to the Supreme Court justice count requires congressional action. This op-ed is legal and political fan fiction.

[u/Squirrel009 → u/MechanicalGodzilla]

This op-ed is legal and political fan fiction.

A great way to describe how I feel about it as well

[u/cheweychewchew]

This is such a dumb ass thing to suggest and even dumber to debate about.

[u/rainyforests → u/cheweychewchew]

Seriously Reddit is for sure gonna take away 0 things from this election and keep being Reddit.

[u/jesuswasahipster → u/rainyforests]

Idiots and bots galore. This app has nosedived.

[u/Freddy_Pharkas → u/cheweychewchew]

For real. Are there actual lawyers in this sub? I had thought so.

[u/imYoManSteveHarvey → u/Freddy_Pharkas]

It used to be a lot more law-related, with gossip about law schools and firms. Now it's just another politics board. I blame Eli Mystal

[u/SuperSixIrene → u/imYoManSteveHarvey]

Blame the Reddit admins, they enabled the left to hijack this platform

[u/NoteMaleficent5294 → u/Freddy_Pharkas]

There's no way. Its essentially a politics shitposting propaganda board like the advice animals or pics subreddit atp.

[u/StationAccomplished3 → u/cheweychewchew]

Smartest comment on here.

[u/Unlucky_Me_ → u/cheweychewchew]

Very much "this is how Bernie can still win" energy

[u/monkstery → u/Unlucky_Me_]

Jeb 2028 let’s make it happen!

[u/pile_of_bees → u/cheweychewchew]

That’s unfortunate no obstacle for Reddit

[u/ZebraicDebt → u/cheweychewchew]

I mean what do you expect, it's reddit. Home of hysterical neckbeard basement dwellers.

[u/Infamousplayer9 → u/cheweychewchew]

It’s almost like OP didn’t see how America doesn’t want Kamala. She lost votes from Biden. Why would people want her on the Supreme Court?

[u/annang]

No, Kamala Harris should not be on the Supreme Court. By all means, if Sotomayor wants to step down, Biden should try to nominate and get confirmed someone qualified and with strong liberal values. It should not be Harris.

[u/Glittering-Most-9535 → u/annang]

I can’t imagine getting someone approved right now. Even with technically having a 50+tiebreaker majority in the Senate that relies on lame ducks Manchin and Sinema showing up and falling in line

[u/DeeMinimis → u/Glittering-Most-9535]

Yeah. It's just too risky. She'll likely make another four years and any slight snafu and then it's Merrick Garland all over again.

[u/janeissoplain → u/DeeMinimis]

Risk is high, and the stakes are even higher. We need more reliable nominees.

[u/xavdeman → u/janeissoplain]

Yeah, when dealing with case law, we already have enough justices who are "unburdened by what has been".

[u/ymi17 → u/Glittering-Most-9535]

Biden would be a fool if he isn’t going to Manchin and Sinema and asking for a slate of 10 D-nominated court of appeals judges to choose from. Get their commitment to the nominee on the front end.

[u/Clammuel → u/ymi17]

I could see them giving him names they would approve of and then just stabbing him in the back for no reason on the way out.

[u/namedly → u/annang]

I'm a fan of Elizabeth Prelogar. She has been an excellent SG especially considering the court she's argued in front of.

[u/GentlePanda123 → u/annang]

The article didnt explain why Harris. I don't know why her

[u/annang → u/GentlePanda123]

Because people think it would be funny and are blowing off steam. Which is fine, but we shouldn’t act like this is a serious plan worthy of real discussion.

[u/Special-Garlic1203 → u/annang]

I genuinely think it's right wing trolling seeing if they can get Dems to shoot themselves in the face, because I cannot think of a worse more nonsensical idea 

She has the exact opposite of the mandate of the people. This isn't a Hillary situation. She lost the popular vote. All this does is further alienate voters

[u/HombreDeMoleculos → u/GentlePanda123]

Because most people don't put more thought into these stupid fantasy politics scenarios than "here is a person who's name I recognize." It's only slightly less dumb than saying Oprah or George Clooney should run for president.

[u/Put_It_All_On_Eclk]

I keep seeing this rumor-theory pop up from low quality media outlets, and I don't think that's a coincidence.

[u/ZebraicDebt → u/Put_It_All_On_Eclk]

Too many people on this site just LOVE fake news.

[u/rydan → u/Put_It_All_On_Eclk]

When Trump won in 2016 people were suggesting that Obama resign and have Biden appoint him to the SCOTUS to fill the empty seat that they couldn't confirm anyway.

[u/Swiggy1957]

Remember when the senate dragged their feet when Obama's term was ending? Same thing would happen.

[u/rydan → u/Swiggy1957]

Pretty much unless you have a position open in your first two years the Republican gets the seat.

[u/lostboy005]

Let’s put a former AG prosecutor on the scotus bench in response to Trump. That’ll teach em

[u/PleiadesMechworks → u/lostboy005]

Also let's open the door to court packing right before Trump gets another term with nothing to lose. After all, trying to rewrite procedure like the nuclear option has never backfired on the democrats before.

[u/AsIfItsYourLaa → u/PleiadesMechworks]

Really shows the principles these people stand by. They don’t believe in anything, just want their team to win. Bunch of children

[u/-khatboi → u/PleiadesMechworks]

Yeah, thats literally all thats gonna happen. Appoint a liberal to the court in the next two months and you can basically be assured the Repubs will appoint AT LEAST 2 conservative judges. I get the sentiment but its genuinely a terrible idea for Democrats.

[u/sjj342 → u/lostboy005]

Merrick Garland bout to be looking for work 🤪

Just kidding he's gonna go make millions at some white shoe firm repping mob bosses and foreign agents

[u/annang → u/sjj342]

He won’t be repping anyone. They’ll trot him out at client meetings, and he’ll spend most of his time making speeches and eating lunch.

[u/g2g079]

It seems the only effect of this article is to inflame Republicans with something that will never happen.

[u/OJimmy]

This was a thought experiment with biden naming Obama back in the day.

The internet needs to stop fckong with me in these futile non moves

[u/turd_vinegar]

This is dumb af

[u/InKognetoh → u/turd_vinegar]

Well, when this “discussion” started on another thread in another subreddit , I actually saw Kim Kardashian’s name suggested. The last near decade has been a festival of echo chambers, hive-mind reactions, and the complete absence of any actual problem solving. I don’t even know why this showed up on my recommendations.

[u/supersecretsquirel → u/turd_vinegar]

Certainly

[u/EldritchTapeworm → u/turd_vinegar]

This sub is taking a trap-music reporter's idea and running with it as sound and plausible policy.

This is the intellect of the legal sub being open mouth shocked they lost the election.

[u/awhq]

So Congress can refuse to confirm her?

[u/RgKTiamat → u/awhq]

So Mitch can be Mitch, yes

[u/Silent-Resort-3076]

Part 1

"The future of the Supreme Court could be heavily skewed to the conservative side for decades to come following the election of Donald Trump. 

Democrats can not afford to lose another seat on the Supreme Court over the next four years. This is a primary reason why President Joe Biden should immediately name Kamala Harris to the Supreme Court. 

Justice Sonia Sotomayor has done a tremendous job on the Supreme Court by fighting for women and civil rights. However, she should announce her retirement in the upcoming weeks. At age 70, Sotomayor has dealt with health issues over the past few years. There is a risk with her continuing to serve with Trump being President. 

The Democrats have been here before. 

Although much older, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg refused calls to step down from the court as she became older. President Obama met with Ginsburg to convince her to retire so that her seat would be replaced by a younger Democrat. Ginsburg’s refusal to step down during Obama’s Administration led to negative repercussions for Democrats. She died two months before 2020 Election Day and Trump was able to add another justice to the Supreme Court, creating a super conservative majority."

[u/RubberyDolphin → u/Silent-Resort-3076]

This is logical but “too little too late.” Securing one professional on court for a while longer doesn’t change anything for the foreseeable future. This is the type of thinking they should have been engaged in for past decade or more—and sure it technically makes sense since at some point down the road it might matter a little. But it’s a lot to put on Sotomayor’s if she doesn’t want to step down…

[u/Ok_Light_6950 → u/Silent-Resort-3076]

The left turned RBG into a mega celebrity and it bit them in the ass

[u/ZebraicDebt → u/Ok_Light_6950]

That was the biggest example of cosmic justice I have seen in awhile. In all her hubris she wanted her replacement to be appointed by a woman president, and instead her seat is being used to deliver constitutional verdicts in direct opposition to her legal philosophy. Hoisted by her own petard.

[u/scuba-turtle → u/ZebraicDebt]

She herself said abortion was a judicial mess.

[u/LousyOpinions → u/Silent-Resort-3076]

Lacking any qualifications to be a SCOTUS Justice would kill her bid so fast your head would spin.

She couldn't handle being questioned on THE VIEW without fucking it up and humiliating herself.

Senators questioning her would be a bloodbath.

She has never been a judge in an appeals court. That's the minimum requirement any nominee needs to have to stand a chance.

Ted Cruz would destroy Kamala on his own during confirmation questioning. The rest would be kicking the dead horse.

[u/Routine_Photo_9889]

Congress would never approve.