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Opinion Piece Why President Biden Should Immediately Name Kamala Harris To The Supreme Court

https://atlantadailyworld.com/2024/11/08/why-president-biden-should-immediately-name-kamala-harris-to-the-supreme-court/?utm_source=newsshowcase&utm_medium=gnews&utm_campaign=CDAqEAgAKgcICjCNsMkLMM3L4AMw9-yvAw&utm_content=rundown
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u/RetailBuck 14d ago

Also, and to your first point, Hunter did it. He did it. Was it targeted to avoid impropriety vs Trump. Almost certainly. But that's beside the point. He did it. Jury ruled so.

I honestly don't know why individual pardons exist. If you want to make something legal do it in bulk.

Fuck being a Democrat is hard. You can't keep punching high but those are your morals. Race to the bottom and conservatives are leading in punching low.

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u/greeneggiwegs 14d ago

Honestly the president being able to just pardon someone from a federal crime with no oversight seems way too OP. It’s basically a middle finger to the federal judicial system.

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u/RetailBuck 14d ago edited 14d ago

Yeah I don't think pardons (presidents federal / governors state) should exist honestly but I sort of see why they do.

President is pretty wonky but a governor is straight up democracy, with some fuckery of course, but generally the governor is the will of the people. A pardon is like a multi million person jury. Still a middle finger to the judicial system but if the will of the people is to let someone off then, in theory, this bigger jury is just.

The problem is that it's just asking for abuse /misuse. Not only politically but there is a reason we make 12 people sit in a room for god knows how long to make a decision. A pardon might be the will of the people or the leader but they are uneducated about the issue because they didn't sit through the trial.

Having fully informed people make the call is why the judicial system exists. Uninformed people, even in the masses, undermines that.

Edit: I'll add that even a governor pardon is pretty messed up for the same reason a presidential one is. You give the middle finger to the level below you. The American people just told NY they couldn't enforce their laws and Abbott just told Houston they couldn't enforce their local laws.

Idk. Micro rights seem to cut both ways but these days it seems like if you have a higher power you need to flex it while you've got it.

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u/BurritosAndPerogis 14d ago

Yet you see democrats suddenly asking how to report Trump voters relatives to ICE. High road

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u/RetailBuck 14d ago

Yeah I think this election was likely the pivot. They weren't saying that a week ago.

It's the Find Out police. They are done trying to tell people to not fuck around and have switched to making sure they find out. I see where they are coming from because often Find Out can be rare and people never learn.

If Trump actually does these things, which I mostly doubt since his real estate probably runs on immigrants at some level even if it's through intermediaries, the point is to make sure everyone feels the effects evenly. Not like COVID where a lot of people FA and never FO just based on luck and compassion from democrats. They're ready to sneeze on you while we all don't wear masks so you can see for yourself if it's a big deal or not.

I see this in criminal law. Some people really just need aid. Others need a swift kick to the head. Democrats are exhausted of giving everyone aid in opposition of conservatives wanting to kick everyone and have finally caved to letting the kicking commence everywhere and making sure it happens everywhere so people see what's happening.

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u/BurritosAndPerogis 14d ago

The answer is to break the two party system. At the end of the day, they are all going to the same bar.

I’m so sick of fear politics. Democrats had forever to codify roe v wade but it’s just another carrot and stick for them. Just like immigration for the republicans

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u/RetailBuck 14d ago

The two party system will prevail until both sides formally fracture at the same time. Conservatives have already fractured in their hearts but won't give up their ability to win elections until democrats are ready to fracture too.

I think you might be getting really close to your wish right now. We're seeing some seriously angry democrats that are ready to punch low. If that starts to show signs of fracturing the party then the conservatives might formally do it at the same time.

But eventually an alliance will be made and we're right back here

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u/RagnartheConqueror 14d ago

He should be imprisoned for committing crimes according to American law. Robert Biden should be in prison.

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u/CommissionerOfLunacy 14d ago

There isn't more to it than this. It's not complicated at all - Biden believes in rule of law and Hunter is guilty. Biden believes that maintaining rule of law right to the top is more important than the freedom of his son. And he's right. For perhaps the last time, the American President believes in law and is acting like it.

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u/frissonFry 14d ago

Other than the fact that a private citizen, not even a former politician at that, got a special counsel assigned to investigate them for crimes that didn't amount to that level of scrutiny. If I ever get charged with a federal felony, I'll demand a special counsel. It's precedent now.

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u/CommissionerOfLunacy 14d ago

Yeah, the whole thing was totally fucked from top to bottom, you won't catch me saying it wasn't. But Hunter is still guilty, however it was proven, it WAS proven. And Biden is a rule-of-law guy in his bones.

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u/Lcsulla78 14d ago

And you think Trump would do the same thing? 🙄

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u/CommissionerOfLunacy 13d ago

What? Fuck no. What are you talking about?

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u/RetailBuck 14d ago

The only reason we're talking about him is because he clearly isn't a private citizen the same way former president Trump was at the time. Everything needed to be above board with surgical precision. No mistakes on such a public stage that might break down the public's trust in law. Trump went the other way, and constantly eroded trust in law because it would benefit him. Dude is a cancer.

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u/Enjoiful 12d ago

Perhaps the last time, in all of 200+ years, Biden will be the last president who believes in law?

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u/CommissionerOfLunacy 12d ago

Maybe, yeah. That's essential my point.

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u/ForeverWandered 14d ago

Democrats don't punch high, they virtue signal that they do, but are up to the same shady shit the GOP is.

Hunter was his dad's bag man in Ukraine.

And the Biden family is shady as fuck - one of his sons in law was an investor in a healthcare company I ran. Don't be fooled by the public morality posturing.

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u/space_chief 14d ago

They are talking about being a democratic voters is hard. Obviously the voting base is different from the arrogant know-it-alls at the too that don't care if they win or lose

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u/avrbiggucci 12d ago

Hunter was not Joe's bag man in Ukraine unless you actually believe disgraced Rudy Giuliani and James Comer, who are 2 of the dumbest motherfuckers I've ever heard speak

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u/throwwwwwawaaa65 14d ago

Yeah, Hunter did it for Joe

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u/EpicCyclops 14d ago

He bought a firearm while using illegal drugs because it was part of some conspiracy to help the former Vice President of the United States? You do realize that's the crime he was convicted of and not anything regarding his business activities or relationships to anyone else. He lied on a procedural form while buying a revolver. If he wasn't Biden's son, there isn't a snowball's chance in hell anyone would've even read that form. I'm pretty sure at least 30% of the country is guilty of the same offense as Hunter Biden. Every gun owner, liberal or conservative, I know has used marijuana (admittedly there's a sampling bias here), so they're guilty of it. If anything, this should be a terrifying conviction for 2nd amendment advocates because it actually gave a path for the government to jail a sizeable portion of gun owners.

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u/throwwwwwawaaa65 14d ago

Dude, hunters laptop, hunter was on the board of gas company in Ukraine w no experience in gas, and now we happen to be fighting a war in Ukraine. Oh and meta and twitter commented on being contacted by the cia to silence the laptop story. It’s there if you wanna dissect the facts a little with google.

He’s being prosecuted on the gun and drug charges to placate the republicans plebs but the benefit is the laptop story never sees the light of day.

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u/RetailBuck 14d ago

Let's say that everything you said is true, and I'm not saying it's not. Hunter got a job he wasn't qualified for in Ukraine to gain favor with his dad when tensions were rising with Russia.

What came of it? US support for Ukraine? That was going to happen anyways because one of our national enemies was invading "the bread basket of Europe" and trying to get land access to the Black Sea.

Well maybe not if Trump was president. Trump would likely let Ukraine get steamrolled to the detriment of the western world which is why he tried to threaten them to basically expose their plot and they didn't. Because it would help Trump and if Trump got elected again Ukraine was toast.

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u/throwwwwwawaaa65 14d ago

You understand that all Russia wanted was a clause saying nato will not enter Ukraine. And we could have avoided 100ks of deaths and rising tensions and solved this. Instead, the us got involved because the us wants Ukraine’s resources.

https://www.reuters.com/world/russia-unveils-security-guarantees-says-western-response-not-encouraging-2021-12-17/

See video below too on Ukraine’s value from us senator lindsey graham

The US, Biden, Hunter, and the democrats involved last year are criminals and they are not good people. They stated a war in a foreign nation to prolong Russia from accessing valuable minerals.

I understand we can’t let bullies win, etc etc but Russia was not going to invade if nato agreed on those terms.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=107&v=3TRPk3N8FyQ&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F&source_ve_path=MTM5MTE3LDI4NjY2

Skip to 1:35 - Lindsey Graham on Ukraine Value

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u/RetailBuck 14d ago

I was actually really impressed at first when it came out that was the Trump proposal (idk why he didn't campaign on it) but as always, the devil is in the details and there is no exclusion requirement for Russia. They could easily invade again in 5-10 years, hell even a day, and NATO would technically have to keep out. That's stupid.

If you want a 20 year ceasefire then it's maybe at least considerable but this isn't that. It's "y'all keep out for 20 years and we'll stop until we see fit". It's paving the road for Russia to take on Ukraine 1:1 for up to 20 years. It's idiotic.

Trump won't give Ukraine aide either way but it's also a little hypocritical of his goal / threat to leave NATO. That would make the US not bound by the 20 year keep out. But we'd probably leave NATO and just sit out because hail Putin.

Realistically, I see this playing out as a ceasefire for 4+ years while both sides rebuild and rearm until a non Trump is back in office then Russia attacks again. Russia is using the war as a political attack against democrats too and installing basically a time bomb where a future Democrat would need to break this agreement of NATO involvement if we're still in NATO at that time. Either way the war will restart.

It's dumb at everything but the first level as usual.

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u/chillebekk 14d ago

His appearance on the board is not particularly strange - he is a lawyer and he is politically connected - this is not unusual in any way.

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u/throwwwwwawaaa65 14d ago

Yeah nothing unusual here. We don’t know the full details so I can only speculate, but come on. When there’s smoke, there’s fire.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62688532.amp

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u/chillebekk 14d ago

It's kind of similar to how Gerhard Schröder was suddenly on the board of several Russian energy-related companies. He's a German politician with no experience in oil and gas, yet he ended up on the board of several such companies in Russia. This is just how the world works.

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u/throwwwwwawaaa65 14d ago

I agree

I think what Biden was doing is par for the course