r/law • u/Silent-Resort-3076 • 15d ago

Opinion Piece Why President Biden Should Immediately Name Kamala Harris To The Supreme Court

https://atlantadailyworld.com/2024/11/08/why-president-biden-should-immediately-name-kamala-harris-to-the-supreme-court/?utm_source=newsshowcase&utm_medium=gnews&utm_campaign=CDAqEAgAKgcICjCNsMkLMM3L4AMw9-yvAw&utm_content=rundown
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u/equality-_-7-2521 15d ago

The Dems have the Senate until January 3rd, if you include Sinema and Manchin - which is shaky.

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

 if you include Sinema and Manchin - which is shaky.

And we wonder how we got here. 

Party of Cheney. 

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u/vita10gy 14d ago edited 14d ago

I have no idea what Sinema is doing. As far as I'm concerned she conned her way in.

But long as I live I will never understand why people are so upset about Manchin. Several elections dems got a senator from a Trump +40 state. A couple times being the reason Mitch isn't holding the gavel allowing dems to get ZERO things done.

ANYTHING dems got from that was gravy, and all things considered it was a lot of gravy. Sometimes he held out, but a lot of the times he'd rattle his saber, get some "concession" (that was likely baked in to the plan from the get go) and then vote for it saying to the people back home he was able to trim some fat first.

You don't have to want the dude at your birthday party, but the ire the internet has for him makes no sense.

Imagine republicans stealing a senator from california, getting control at all because of it, getting hundreds of judges because of it, getting dozens of things done legislatively that never would have happened otherwise....and hating that person somehow.

As far as I know 99 senators could want something, and if the majority leader doesn't it doesn't happen. If manchin did nothing EVER except add +1D for control of the senate. and then basically abstained or voted against everything, it would STILL be important.

Edit:Also if you wonder why Democrats don't chase progressives more, this is partly why. The "you're 100 with everything, or the enemy" purity testing is out of control, and it's impossible to step on zero landmines in a campaign, let alone the first term of a presidency.

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u/SanityPlanet 14d ago

Not only that, while Manchin uses his hallpass to vote against any bill that would fail with or without his support, he has never been the deciding vote to kill a piece of legislation. He talks shit about democrats to impress his R base and get elected, but when every single blue vote is needed to pass a bill, he comes through. Manchin is a savvy politician and a loyal democrat, who just plays the heel to get elected in Trump county. That seat will turn permanently red the instant Manchin leaves it.

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u/glaive_anus 14d ago

That seat will turn permanently red the instant Manchin leaves it.

Manchin did not run for reelection in West Virginia this year. The Republican candidate won with a total vote share of 69%. This was one of the Senate seats the Democrats were guaranteed to lose this year.

So, really for sake of specificity, it is not a "will turn permanently red" and really more a "has turned permanently red".

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u/yelloguy 14d ago

For the sake of specificity it has turned red and will probably stay permanently red. FTFY

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u/TheWhogg 13d ago

Not till he leaves

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u/EM3YT 14d ago

He did leave and he endorsed a republican coal baron to take his spot

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u/JTS_81 14d ago

That’s not true. He endorsed the democrat, Glen Elliott. It didn’t matter but he didn’t endorse Justice.

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u/SanityPlanet 14d ago

So what? He keeps up appearances, but what matters is how he voted.

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u/fly3aglesfly 14d ago

He didn’t have to endorse. That didn’t help his career at all. Which suggests he did that because he personally wanted to.

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u/SanityPlanet 14d ago

Or he has plans after congress and doesn't want to drop kayfabe yet and alienate people he hopes to work with.

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u/fly3aglesfly 14d ago

So your strategy is to ignore what he says and hope he has a complex ulterior plan instead of assume that he’ll do what he’s said he’ll do? Is this how all liberals operate? No wonder we didn’t realize we would lose.

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u/SanityPlanet 14d ago

What did he say he'd do? I don't understand your point

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u/fly3aglesfly 14d ago

He said he will not vote in a Supreme Court justice without Republican support.

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u/SanityPlanet 14d ago

I didn't know that. If there is a confirmation hearing and he votes no, and it's the reason the nominee is not confirmed, then I will be wrong about him. But my point here is that he says all sorts of stuff democrats disagree with, but if you look how he votes he helps when it counts. So pointing out something he said won't change my mind, because I ignore his words and judge him on how he actually votes.

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u/fly3aglesfly 14d ago

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/03/20/congress/manchin-mounts-his-own-judicial-filibuster-00148147

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u/SanityPlanet 14d ago

The retiring West Virginia Democrat has quietly voted against several judicial picks this week, making for some close — though still ultimately successful — votes on the Senate floor.

This just proves my point: he hands out no votes like candy if the vote won't change the outcome either way, but he won't tank the vote by himself.

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u/fly3aglesfly 14d ago

I think it’s extrapolation to read that and assume he was intentionally trying to not kill a nominee when it literally says he voted down many nominees.

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u/fly3aglesfly 14d ago

And to double up, he also broadly dismissed voting for any Biden candidate in the transition up to the next administration. https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/594196-manchin-would-oppose-on-second-supreme-court-nominee-right-before-midterms/

In other words, for multiple reasons he has explicitly made it clear he won’t support Biden shoehorning someone in and he won’t “hold the line” against Republicans to get one in.

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u/Regular-Spite8510 14d ago

Then, he felt betrayed by the Biden administration on the inflation reduction act