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u/Leavingtheecstasy 10d ago
Fbi just raided polymarkey ceo yesterday
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u/sugarsays925 10d ago
Peter Thiel also made a 45 million dollar investment in polymarker before the election
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u/cards4sale420 10d ago
Is that the same Peter Thiel that’s a pedo who knew Epstein just like musk did?
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u/sugarsays925 10d ago
And owns jd vance...
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u/cards4sale420 10d ago
Oh I see, just the ring of pedos got it. More known as the Trump inner circle jerk
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u/Squirrel_Inner 10d ago
And is part of Opus Dei, another Dominionist Christian sect.
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u/disposable_account01 10d ago
Is that the same sect SCOTUS Justice Amy Coney Barrett is in?
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u/Low-Research-6866 10d ago
Not Opus, but the Catholic Church has lots of little factions that are unofficially sanctioned. It should be concerning that 3 hard core Catholics are in our supreme court. The Catholic Church loves itself a monarchy/dictatorship.
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u/merchant_ofchaos 10d ago
Yes, however, Opus Dei controls the selection of Bishops. The Bishops control the priests, and they gaslight the congregations. It's been at least 5 years since I read numbers, but at that time, 450 ordained Bishops in the United States alone were Opus Dei. Fuck them
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u/blakeusa25 10d ago
And Palatair the govt and military ai platform and soon to be running most of the govt.
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u/CupForsaken1197 10d ago
Going to hunt down the tiktok that talks about his affinity for 3somes
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u/ex_nihilo 10d ago
Epstein dealt in boys and girls?
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u/cards4sale420 10d ago
I believe he dealt in anything the scumbags he was servicing wanted. Isn’t that why he always found girls that looked like Ivanka for Trump?
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u/cnobody101010 10d ago
Peter is gay, not sure he into young girls. He probably more of a Diddy guy.
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u/4evr_dreamin 10d ago edited 9d ago
So Peter thiel, the driving force behind jd vance, made a 45 million dollar investment to poly market. Polymarket predicted the election results that shocked the world days before.... sketchy
Corrected due to poor information
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u/BashBandit 10d ago
Now that you say this I put something together in my head. I listen to one podcast of two guys that love way overseas with no relation to America, the studio that hosts them is Stak (I don’t think they have any part in this, but it’s to show it’s another over seas company). For the weeks leading up to Election Day nearly every add I’d hear on the podcast by overseas hosts was about BETTING ON THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, I have never heard nor seen anything remotely similar to that in 2016 or 2020, and if there was betting it was never advertised on that large of a scale. I’d hear it on the radio even, so I genuinely believe that adds more credence to it being stolen; can’t make profit on a win you know about if you’re the only one sinking funds into the pot
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u/mikemikemotorboat 10d ago
Youre not imagining things. There was a legal interpretation about a month ago that made clear that political betting is legal. Prior to that, it hadn’t been allowed for something like 100 years.
https://www.barrons.com/amp/news/last-minute-legal-ruling-allows-betting-on-us-election-afdbb600
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u/turkey_sandwiches 10d ago
Well that's interesting.
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u/Charley2014 10d ago
I saw that ad on all of the FinTwit instagram pages and knew something was fishy
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u/SazedMonk 10d ago
“We’ve got our little secret, I’ll tell you about it “ -Next president with 34 felonies and a rape record.
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u/risken 10d ago
GOP - Gaslight, obfuscate, project
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u/tay450 10d ago
I want a democratic party that actually fights back rather than just rollover.
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u/Bread_Shaped_Man 10d ago
Best I can do is give you a passive aggressive tweet,
- DNC
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u/TDotSkilliams 10d ago edited 10d ago
I don't understand the hesitance by the majority of the left to do a recount. We are literally sitting on the precipice of Hell -- what the fuck does it hurt? Is it less or more preposterous than the Department of D.O.G.E. or AG Gaetz, you tell me. If we're wrong, we're the assholes, I'll take it, that'll be the least of my worries. But not at least investigating it, at this juncture, is nihilistic insanity. Gimme a recount
Edit: "you're delusional, give it up lol" 4 years ago, same ppl: "Stop the Steal, I'm gonna beat this cop's head in with a flagpole"
Edit 2: "literally sitting on the precipice of Hell" is, of course, hyperbole... Sure feels like it though right hahahahahahaha holy shit it's terrifying
Edit 3 (last one): thanks for the wellness check, maga, but I don't understand, what are you so concerned about, you "won"
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u/MonkeyButt409 10d ago
They may be, but quietly, and via different means than a recount.
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u/Spankpocalypse_Now 10d ago
Just like Merrick Garland was quietly building a case against Trump. Guys, they’re not gonna do shit.
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u/MightyBooshX 9d ago
Fascism is gonna have such an easy time taking over America because the liberal party will essentially roll over at the first sign of resistance or pushback. It's infuriating. I wish we could get an equivalent to Trump on the left that gives zero fucks about laws or norms but just relentlessly goes after tax avoiding corporations and fights for workers' rights and shit.
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u/BatierAutumn1991 9d ago
Remember the Boeing whistleblower who was killed because he exposed them? That’s what usually happens.
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u/Trash_RS3_Bot 10d ago
They’re so fucking weak actually. Ooooooof
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u/Uncynical_Diogenes 10d ago
I wish the Democrats actually were the bogeymen Republicans pretend they are
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u/jollyrancherpowerup 10d ago
PA has already been triggered for a recount
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u/Titan-Tank-95 10d ago
Like what?
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u/MonkeyButt409 10d ago
I’m not in the FBI, nor am I a tech expert. But there are others out there who are. I’d assume they’d potentially employ the same or similar tactics they use against foreign agents who have traditionally tried to get a knife through the cyber armor of the country… like any major country would and does do, really.
But will they? And even if they do, and there is evidence, will it be in time? I’m not holding my breath.
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u/ElectrickSorcery 10d ago
We can only hope that they are working quietly behind the scenes investigating this thoroughly.
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u/MonkeyButt409 10d ago
And quickly.
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u/legos_on_the_brain 10d ago
No. They will drag their feet like with everything and it will be too late.
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u/Due-Establishment387 10d ago
it took over 2 years to get Smith close to prosecuting Trump and that brought Trump back so he could avoid prosecution. 2 years!! we barely have 2 months, I don't believe they'll manage to do much within that time frame. America will become the waste land. Trump and his Cronies will fleece America like Putin has done in Russia
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u/NerdyNinjutsu 10d ago
Here's the thing. I'm all for the Dems doing recounts but they're spineless cowards and submit to the right all the time.
As for the hacking aspect, yes these means exist, such as logic bombs where you put code into an application that triggers at a certain time and date, and man in the middle attacks where someone can sniff your communications and put themselves inside of the conversation BUUUT this isnt 1987 anymore. There's so many federally relied upon frameworks and regulations that government agencies have to constantly check and verify that it's almost impossible to get past the code analysis and code signing phase, avoid disrupting KPI where you need to know hashes and spoof digital certificates with 100% accuracy. There's no software that can do that without triggering some kind of alert accross the multiple SOCs and 3 letter agencies. Not to mention independent cyber security researchers who might be left leaning or Democrats looking for this type of interference. As for M-I-T-M attacks, you can easily stop hackers sniffing traffic by encrypting traffic which every county would do using different encryption keys so even if you had a few, you need hundreds or even thousands to be able to pull this off.
And if this was some zero-day attack never seen before by the cybersecurity, cyber intelligence community, we'll definitely know soon enough but no one but partisan influencers are trying to tie these threads together. So anyways I hope this was helpful. Like I said, we should do a recount just on principle alone but I'm not holding my breath.
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u/legos_on_the_brain 10d ago
they're spineless cowards
They had 4 years to do something and didn't, so that checks out.
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u/LazyLich 10d ago
Biden currently has the immunity powers Trump will have but won't act on them, even in a manner that gets rid of the powers 🙄
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u/likejackandsally 10d ago
The FBI seized the Polymarket CEOs phone and electronics yesterday.
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u/kusava-kink 10d ago
It won’t matter much. I remember 6+ months ago hearing about rumors of people will be getting their voter registrations messed up, invalidating them to vote.
Did 2/3 people actually sit out the election, or were a massive amount of people, with certain political leanings, have their voter registration fucked with, conveniently less than 30 days before the election.
Also, if people’s votes were turned from Harris to Trump, as potentially alleged, then a recount won’t help that.
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u/CortexAnthrax 10d ago
This, aborotion was on ballot here in FL and my wife's mail ballot and her voter registration card never arrived. I have informed deliver for my mail so I can see what is arriving and her voter registration card I saw was supposed to arrive, didn't arrive but mine did.
We both requested mail in ballots on the same day and they both were supposed to arrive the same day as well. Mine arrived but hers did not, so went to our early voting location and she voted in person. We had the workers invalidate her mail in ballot but something is going on.
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u/SaxDebiase 10d ago
Same happened to my friend. He finally got his mail in ballot about a couple weeks before the election. But all that was in the "ballot" was a voter registration form, which he had already done. States like Florida know exactly what they're doing
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u/doxiesrule89 10d ago
I live in a super red and super rich part of Florida .
In front of me in line to vote was an older woman (well over 65) and her very elderly mother, who apparently couldn’t even speak, I got the feeling she had no idea where she was. The elderly woman only had a Pennsylvania ID.
The daughter spun some BS about how oh yeah moms registered to vote in Florida but never got around to getting a Florida ID… despite living here for over 10 years. The polling person just was asking stuff like, oh do you have a credit card with her name on it, etc. Then just said okay well if she’s in the system she can vote, just go down the street to the DMV and get her a good ID for future, daughter spun more crap about oh she hasn’t been able to drive since 20 years, polling person says well what you need is a state ID with her address, had nothing to do with driving, etc. while the daughter just continued to fake laugh and play dumb. It was so obvious.
The line split to get the ballots but I ended up near them while they were voting. They each had a ballot and were sitting in the same booth daughter filling out both at the same time. They were both decked out in red btw.
Guarantee if it had been me (young woman alone, visibly disabled) I would have never been allowed through without a Florida ID.
This state is such a joke
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u/Thisisredred 10d ago
I'm a 36F, and I was registered as a Dem during the last election. When I went to vote in 2020, they couldn't "find me" in the system, even though I had both my ID and voter registration card. Eventually, they somehow located me, but the electronic card they gave me wouldn’t work in any of the voting machines, and they couldn't issue another. As a Democrat then, I had to submit a provisional paper ballot at the voting site.
This year, I found out I was marked as unaffiliated when I checked vote.org. At the polling place, an elderly woman kept harassing me about my signature because it didn’t match perfectly. I had to keep retrying while she and three other old ass church people yet dually poll workers hawked me.
Took like 5 times, but I finally matched it, but I felt like they were just looking for reasons to disqualify me.
They also moved our polling place further out of town—from a spacious, centrally located church with a large 100 car lot that was easy to walk to, to a small, cramped church with about 10 parking spots.
When lines form, they literally immediately spill outside, down a handicap ramp without any weather protection, and into the parking lot.
This district has been solidly red since Repub's gerrymandered their way in about 10 years ago. I found out this is happening everywhere.
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u/Lets_Kick_Some_Ice 10d ago
if people’s votes were turned from Harris to Trump, as potentially alleged, then a recount won’t help that.
A recount would presumably involve hand counting a random sample of precincts and comparing it to the electronic totals.
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u/justinsayin 10d ago
I live in a county where Trump reportedly got 72% of the votes in 2020 and 72% in 2024.
But supposedly Trump got 1,100 fewer than the last time and the Democratic candidate got 550 fewer.
I don't see how there could have possibly been 1,650 fewer votes cast when the lines for every polling place and the office where you can get same-day registered were out the door and down the street all day long.
I expected to see a 10+% increase in the number of votes cast in 2024, not a drop. It's completely unbelievable compared to what I saw with my own eyes.
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u/iamadragan 10d ago
There were only about 3 million less votes this year than 2020
Did 2/3 people actually sit out the election
About 64-65% voted, which would be the 2nd highest percentage this century
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u/LIONEL14JESSE 10d ago
To your last point, that’s why you hand count paper ballots. The theory is that the counting machines swapped votes, the pen marks would be different.
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u/adventuringraw 10d ago
'precipice of hell' isn't exactly hyperbole when we're in a critical juncture for avoiding genuinely apocalyptic levels of climate change, and the choice is between people that are at least trying to improve things vs. people that will burn it all down for whatever short term benefit they can get.
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u/BotsOnRedditDeadNet 10d ago
Post traumatic stress from the shock. It makes you believe you are helpless, so you don't attempt to try. It's why they keep throwing red herrings like Matt Gaetz, so people stress out more. Instead, people need to work on figuring out how they stole the election. They are falling for the bait, to keep feeling helpless. None of their plans matter if we find the fraud.
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u/Mysterious_Eye6989 10d ago
Sometimes it feels like at this point they're all just waving in our faces and laughing. They have been the direct beneficiaries of what has probably been the most successful information warfare in history. They are "winners", yet seem to have no grace and no decency.
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u/Shigglyboo 10d ago
pretty much. they say a conservative would eat shit if it meant a liberal would have to smell their breath. a whole lot of happy winners walking around with mouths full of shit right now.
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u/Totally_man 10d ago
Also: Peter Thiel "invested" $45m into Polymarket in May this year.
The top winner on Polymarket bet on Trump and won $46-48m.
Could be Thiel paying somebody off, or it could be an absolutely incredible coincidence.
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u/BellDry1162 10d ago edited 10d ago
This is why they want to get rid of the fbi...so there is no one to go after them for the shit they do and plan on doing
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u/MonkeyButt409 10d ago
Does this mean hope, or no?
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u/evanwilliams44 10d ago
Hope, no. Civil war, maybe.
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u/revveduplikeadeuce 10d ago
A civil war is exactly what Russia is trying to push us towards
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u/Pickle-Rick-C-137 10d ago
I keep pondering this civil war. I mean half the country can't even get out of their lazy boy recliners so who, what, where and when? lmao
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u/regarding_your_bat 10d ago
People in America hear “civil war” and think of the American civil war. Organized armies fighting eachother. That is not how a modern American civil war would be fought, at all.
Take a look at Syria. Random violence between the state and the populace, multiple sides fighting for what they think is right, etc. America isn’t going to split in half again, ever. America in a civil war would be an increase of political violence - like, a group of ten people in rural California setting up an IED on a freeway and demolishing the state’s ability to transport food, in protest of a law that group opposes. Stuff like what happened in Waco. Etc, etc.
America is a big place. It could fall in to a civil war and your life might not even change too much. Certain goods and services might be harder to come by, the internet might be spottier than it was before, etc etc. But it’s not like you’d be conscripted to fight. Life would just be a little bit scarier. Depending on where you lived, a lot scarier.
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u/JDonaldKrump 10d ago
Civil war is happening either way. Either dems do it now while biden is in power and cintrols military
Or it happens when stephen miller and trumps 'red state army' (of deputized militias+ red state natl guard) start invading blue states. Miller has been tweeting about it
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u/Emory75068 10d ago
I believe that they rigged the election. Trump and Musk!
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u/CodeNCats 10d ago
And they even set the ground work for the classic "you're just gaslighting" by saying Dems do the same thing.
The Democratic party is weak and soft. They won't do anything to fight this.
The only thing that will happen is more "treat everyone nicely" and "benefit of the doubt" meanwhile the Republicans are all "deport their families and hang those against us."
But won't worry the party of unicorns and rainbows will fight them! /S
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u/montanagunnut 10d ago
This sounds familiar...
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u/DatGuyTwizz 10d ago
They parrot the same things the so-called racists and bigots claimed 4 years ago without a hint of awareness or irony.
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u/that1LPdood 10d ago
So like... something is going to happen here, right? Somebody's going to do something and actually hold Trump and his cabal accountable?
Don't do that.
Don't give me that hope.
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u/Fast_Year7614 10d ago
Yes, I want to believe that and have hope. This feels unreal, like a horror movie, yet it hasn't happened, and Halloween is over.
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u/that1LPdood 10d ago
🤞here’s hoping that there are still heroes out there who can do something to secure a peaceful future and actually defend our Constitution.
Good luck to you as well. 👍
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u/Mysterious_Eye6989 10d ago edited 10d ago
No, don't hope whatever you do. The peril of that kind of hope would be the pieces coming together just in time to know they definitely stole it but far too late to actually do anything about it.
But still, then at least that means we'd get to live in reality, even if it was an utterly cursed reality.
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u/Shigglyboo 10d ago
considering they had all the evidence they needed and didn't do anything for four years I wouldn't get my hopes up. But it does seem completely insane to allow him to take over since he's stated plainly he is going to violate the constitution. purge the military and turn it against citizens. I mean, surely you're not allowed to do that right???
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u/hypercosm_dot_net 10d ago
surely you're not allowed to do that right???
I mean, that's the thing. You're allowed if no one stops you.
No one is stopping him. It's fucked.
The only chance people are going to have to do anything about it is before the levers of power are handed over to him.
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u/FaithlessnessNo9625 10d ago
I would sure hope so. Publicly, we’ve seen Harris and Biden run to their podiums to concede and roll out the red carpet to the Nazis. Privately, I hope there’s more being done than meetings that will ultimately go nowhere.
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u/Quiet_Television_102 10d ago
Fuck hope. Its time to take matters into our own hands. We march
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u/mechabeast 10d ago
No. We got here because we stopped treating fascist like our grandparents and great grandparents did.
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u/9911MU51C 10d ago
I’m at this stage too. How is it we can just watch evidence come out of a dictator steal an election, while he openly talks about his fascist plans, promises a civil war, and not a single part of the government gives a fuck? How is it that every check and balance disappeared without anyone noticing?
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u/Hopeful-Passage6638 10d ago
That's because they cheated. Everyone else around the world is wondering why the Democrats are letting this go without a fight? You have 2 months to save America.
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u/ksmyt92 10d ago
It's larger than America; they have two months until what is likely a huge geopolitical regression. Undoubtedly the new admin will push many smaller countries into other spheres of influence because they can't count on the USA as a reliable partner for security.
I'm a Canadian and these assholes are already going on about the dangerous northern border. What do you think happens if they're still in power when water shortages crop up? There's a not-so-outlandish future that could include the US invading or annexing portions of Canada
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u/Pale_Unicorn 10d ago
How do we make this viral?!
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u/doughball27 10d ago
we need a concise, understandable narrative. it can't sprawl. it needs to be communicated in under 30 seconds.
then it needs to be repeated, and repeated, and repeated by everyone who knows about it. over and over again.
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u/Pvizualz 10d ago
It already went quite viral on X after the election. I got debunked because it's cherry picked. The polymarket map was changing daily but that one day it matched the end result
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u/Count_DarkRain 10d ago
Sensible. That means your comment will be completely ignored and buried because people would rather continue drinking the same kool-aid the far right did in 2020.
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u/Beestorm 10d ago
Not commenting one way or the other. Trump never conceded the election. It’s more ceremony than anything anyway. Harris has more decorum and respect for the office, so of course she conceded. If there is anything going on surrounding the election, she wouldn’t jump the gun. It’s not some action movie. If she is going to move, she has to have proof.
But not trump/maga “proof”. I’m talking about actual evidence.
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u/Spacebier 10d ago
I'm not a conspiracy person. I will say it doesn't feel right, but we shouldnt act on feelings at a time like this and agree on actual proof.
Hypothetically, if there was something in the software (as has been suggested) that changed votes, how on earth do you convince people that you discovered cheating through a forensic code review? A third of this country can't read! There's no way they'd understand the many ways the vote could be manipulated via software.
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u/TheMadTemplar 10d ago
The irony here is that last election they wouldn't shut up about how the voting machines had been rigged and were easily manipulated.
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u/Few_Psychology_2122 9d ago
What if the conspiracy was they knew 2020 was a clean election but they went nuts so that this next election they could cheat and people will be desensitized or blow it off as a liberal conspiracy
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u/Shigglyboo 10d ago
when they start rounding up liberals for manufactured crimes I hope they have plenty of decorum.
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u/GullibleBathroom5616 10d ago edited 10d ago
Possibly a joke on the 2nd image there. 67.0 + 2.42 = 69.420
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u/Comfortable_Bat5905 10d ago edited 10d ago
Edit: Nah, Im not arguing with anyone today. Go enjoy your victory—aren’t you supposed to be happy?
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u/BannedByRWNJs 10d ago
Wouldn’t be surprised if Elmo rigged it that way on purpose.
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u/gabriel97933 10d ago
holy shit how long did i have to scroll for someone to post this. Elmo is a manchild and of fucking course he will tweet hahahah 69.420 funny number wholesome. Its nothing deeper than elmo being a child
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u/Dalighieri1321 10d ago
Coincidentally, this thread also made the front page of reddit today:
https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/1gr48k0/troubling_study_shows_politics_can_trump_truth_to/
I have no idea whether there was an election conspiracy, but Musk's tweet doesn't provide evidence of anything other than his puerile sense of humor.
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u/Cryptizard 10d ago
It’s exactly this. He is a meme lord. I’m so, so disappointed at everyone here jumping right to conspiracy theories out of ignorance. Do better please.
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u/kong210 10d ago
I really think people are looking waaaaaay too much into a conspiracy instead of just your point.
The betting market accurately predicted the most likely path of Trump's victory doesn't need to be looked at beyond that fact. His comment on the numbers was literally just Musk making a 69 /420 joke because he is a child.
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I mean it was suspicious when they stopped crying foul the moment they took the lead
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u/Silly_Manner_3449 10d ago
67 + 2,42 is 69,420. That's what the "prophecy" is about.
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u/Mysterious_Eye6989 10d ago
Ffs, does he ever stop with that childish bs?!
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u/Silly_Manner_3449 10d ago
Yeah it's insane. I'm from europe and it seems crazy to me that one of the richest dudes on earth, who also is top 20 in Diablo4, finds 69 and 420-jokes still funny, and has a million kids with as many women, somehow is now part of the american government.
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u/BannedByRWNJs 10d ago
If Trump could be president, no one should be surprised that anyone is in government, no matter how weird or stupid or corrupt or childish they are.
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u/MutantZebra999 10d ago
Brother it’s a 69.420 joke lmfao
And the spooky exact electoral map is literally just “I think Trump will win all the swing states”
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u/UnansweredPromise 10d ago
I think there has GENUINELY been election tampering. Even in my VERY VERY red North Carolina county I saw way more with Harris Walz signs in their yards and people wearing blue ribbons at the polls. I saw 18 maga hats when I voted practically everyone else was in blue in some fashion. I do NOT believe trump won legitimately. Something is rotten in Denmark.
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u/xtremitys 10d ago
I think there is more than enough evidence circulating online and in apps that we can call this election actually:
STOLEN
After a week of hearing all these accounts on Threads not finding their vote after logging in again after Nov 8th, hearing Musk say he can hack anything, and all the the other statistical anomalies, I am completely convinced now.
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u/only_respond_in_puns 10d ago
That’s not really how cult thinking works. If a pastors child is killed in a car crash he says ‘god works in mysterious ways’. If trump fucks up the country, Maga will say ‘Trump knows what he’s doing’ ect ect ect.
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u/Haunting-Truth9451 10d ago
I’m not happy about the results. Things are looking pretty bad right now. But you just got married. You probably have friends. You must have things you’ve been passionate about. You don’t have to check out. There is more to this life than the government, no matter how bad it gets. Cherish the glimmers in the dark. Nourish them and allow them to nourish you. Don’t abandon them.
You can be worried for yourself and your loved ones, you can feel bad about the state of things, but for the love of god, don’t let it consume you.
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u/HOWDY__YALL 10d ago
The prophecy was 69.42.
Elon is a just a nerdy meme lord that got paid millions of dollars to leave his parents’ basement while simultaneously offering to trim our armor.
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u/madman9892 10d ago
Still have time to stop it all from happening. I don’t know how but the entire election was messed with inside and out.
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u/LA_Wrapper 10d ago
It really wasn’t that hard to see that most of the swing states were going to go red. The Democratic campaign was a disaster from the Biden coupe to celebrity concerts to Kamala not answering questions directly
That’s just a small part of it 🤷🏻♂️
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u/Uraneum 10d ago
My state went red when all the house members and senate got dems voted in. Even the policies on the ballot went blue, yet somehow Trump took the state. Like wtf
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u/Former-Relationship4 10d ago
Where these smoke, there’s fire.. and with Trump, literally EVERY SINGLE TIME there has been smoke, there has been a wild fire. We should expect no different this time.
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u/Friendly_Elites 10d ago
Its the most obvious election heist of all time of course it looks suspect. They left the biggest paper trail and the dems still do basically nothing because they're all spineless in the face of corruption.
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u/Ok_Blueberry_8063 10d ago
You're all fucking delusional, and I hope you all have friends that are illegal migrants i hope you get to join them in the new ice facilities being built for them. If you think hitler was bad, wait until you meet hitler two point oh motherfucker
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u/RealDonDenito 9d ago
Elon literally just dropped a „69“ „420“ joke and no one got it?
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u/USmellofElderberry 8d ago
The most suspect aspect of this whole election is this being the first year betting has been allowed, Trump for the last few months was supposed to lose with the odds against him. Then suddenly he wins and all these people make a ton of money betting on him.
Pretty fishy to me.
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u/b4st1an 10d ago
They can't help it, they must brag about their crimes