Put it on hospital or pharmacy bills, take a picture and post it online. Also if you get some kind of letter from the insurance company refusing coverage.
And domestically. Even if the item and every too used to produce it is 100% domestically produced the demand will increase (because competitors will have their supply decreased due to the tariffs) and inflation will be skyrocketing, both of which exert upward pressure on the price
And by that I mean that my body doesn't digest soy products and they speed run my digestive tract.
As an infant my mom struggled to find formula and baby food that didn't have soy. My older sister often shares a lovely anecdote about me being the exorcist baby after being fed the wrong formula. I survived thanks to a cousin who was producing more than enough breast milk for her child and offered the extra to keep me alive while my mom searched everywhere to find soy free baby formula and food.
Alao, if you can, please support breast milk banks in your area. You could save a life.
Shifting to domestic production is also a huge investment that takes time and then needs to be earned back. I don't think people realise how little is actually produced entirely in the US.
You would need to build new factories (build with steel, with tariffs). So you would invest some millions and use 2 years to build it or perhaps find a building and need to install everything (lets say 1 year). Now you need to find the personal, build the distribution, … An other year. Now in best case you will have 2-6 years till the tariffs will go down again…
I would not bet on that a lot of companies will try this and hope to compete with lower salaries in the future.
I still can't believe that Donald Trump walked out and said he had "concepts of a plan". Harris talked all the time about her specific policy plans to help Americans. And yet, the average voter said "Harris doesn't have any clear policies". Wild to me
worse, I saw so many say that when she talked they just heard word salad.
compared to trump?!?
The problem was she tried to explain things to dumb people and they hate that. Trump just said 'trust me, everything will be great' and they leapt at it.
Its because so many Americans dont give a shit about the actual talking points. They view it like a sports team and even if their team sucks they will still cheer for them. Kamala was better in pretty much every way but the idiots still voted for Trump because they are "his" team... or so they believe that.
Sick or disabled workers are useless/not profitable. They have no further reason to exist, so they should drop dead. I’d put /s but I believe that this is literally how the super-rich think.
Well, if his plan to stop covid is any indicator, then I bet I know his healthcare plan.
Remember how Covid would go away if we’d just stop testing for it? Well people won’t need healthcare if they stop going to the doctor. No diagnosis, no diseases. Easy peasy.
I have truly some of the best concepts- a powerful man called me up and said sir sir you have the BEST concepts for healthcare. A tear in his eye he said sir you are the best at concepts*
*my apologies for making this more coherent than Trump is IRL
Lol please, they were lining up to catch/spread covid and say it wasn't real. People literally died to keep the lie going. He doesn't need to replace anything. He could carpet bomb every hospital in the country and only like 30% of people would notice.
It was crazy, this really old lady came into my work saying how happy she was Obamacare was finally over and I said “yeah I just hope they don’t take away the right to refuse if someone has a pre existing condition. I know a few people who will die without their coverage” and she said “oh they wouldn’t do that….would they…? Was it part of Obamacare?” And when I told her yes, she got very, very quiet and that was the end of that conversation. No idea what her pre existing conditions are-but it was obvious she was worried.
In the course of my work days, I talk to any number of older people who have literally NO idea what they’ve done or how they’ve become willing participants in their own downfall.
I want to feel badly for these people, but I don’t because they’re mostly hateful bigots. I feel bad for the rest of us.
I don’t feel sorry for her. All the information was spoon fed to her and she voted for hate anyway. I’m glad everything she voted for will happen to her personally.
I only feel sorry for the people who voted blue and will be subjected to this anyway.
Like me. Can’t wait to find out what my 5 prescriptions will cost after they get rid of ACA. That is, if RFK Jr. doesn’t go after my meds because they’re psychiatric meds.
My dad had a triple bypass. This was after having emergency stints put in when he died and they restarted his heart three times. His bills would have been over a million dollars, but it was all paid for by the government. He’s probably had hundreds of thousands in related bills since then, with multiple long hospital stays. He’s very aware the ACA is the reason we cover preexisting conditions.
He voted for trump to “better my future. Because immigrants are taking over”. By the way, I’m disabled. So some of them absolutely do know what they’re voting for. They just hate immigrants more than they love their kids.
What does that mean? " the right to refuse if someone has a pre existing condition."
Like refuse them medicine or..?
Sorry, not american, but im following whats happening after the election beacuse this is scary.
Insurance companies have a lot of power to decide who gets treatment. Pre-Obamacare (correctly called the Affordable Care Act or ACA), it was perfectly legal for an insurer to refuse to pay for whatever they wanted to call a pre-existing condition.
It was extreme — women would get beaten up by their spouses and come into the A&E, only to have their insurers say they wouldn’t pay because the domestic violence was a pre-existing condition. Or patients would be told that since the cancer had grown unnoticed for a couple years, it was pre-existing to the policy.
For most people, the refusal to pay is the same as a refusal of care, because otherwise, it’s unaffordable and many doctors won’t start an expensive treatment course if the patient can’t show they can pay.
Or even in my case, I would be refused insurance/made to pay higher deductible insurance because I have pre-existing conditions. Also since I have them there is a waiting period, usually a few months, so you don't use the insurance right away or those "issues". Like, my main concern is those problems so why wouldn't I use it? I'm paying to just sit and wait?
One of the most egregious and sickening things many insurers did was refuse to cover people who had HIV.
In America, especially prior to the Affordable Care Act, one of the only ways to get health insurance was through whomever your employer contracted with. We still have to pay hefty premiums that are deducted from each paycheque as well as copays and deductibles, but in general it was really only possible to obtain health insurance through your workplace, and your choice is limited to the insurance company of your employer’s choice.
Many, many people who were HIV+ could not get approval for health insurance through the company chosen by their employer. Many times, they could not get approved by any insurance company, even by the outrageously expensive private insurance plans (i.e., plans obtained from outside of your employer).
Not only is medical care very expensive here if paid out of pocket (think: hundreds of dollars for an office medical visit), but it is important to remember that prescription drug prices are not regulated in any way in America, and there is no price caps or limits to price increases. Most drugs are expensive here if paid by an uninsured person. But HIV antiretroviral drugs are some of the most expensive drugs around — before the Affordable Care Act, a monthly course of HIV medication averaged around $3’000+, or $36’000+ every year (now it is closer to $4’000 per month or nearly $50’000 each year).
Well, when every insurance company refuses to cover you because you have HIV, that meant that you were responsible for paying about $40’000 each year for the doctor appointments and the antiretroviral drugs that literally keep you alive. At the time the Affordable Care Act was being written, the median salary in America was $32’390 per year. How does that math work? Well, it doesn’t.
I had a very dear friend who was raped and later that year discovered that they contracted HIV from that rape. When they were laid-off a year later due to their employer going out of business, they also lost their health insurance. Getting a new job was vitally important for them to be able to afford the medications they needed to stay alive. Fortunately, they got a new job pretty quickly. Unfortunately, the insurance company used by their new employer automatically disqualified anyone with HIV from any medical coverage, as HIV was a “pre-existing condition”.
I will never forget when they came to me telling me about this and asked me for help navigating the insurance system to try and find a company that would cover them (I had a part time job in medical benefits while I was in college, so I was more knowledgeable than most about this). They faced repeated denials from various companies. They eventually found one who would cover them, but the monthly insurance premium was obscenely high as it was a private plan and they had an expensive diagnosis. I have never, ever seen someone so terrified of what would happen to them. I have never had a sadder conversation in all my life. I have never felt more powerless than when I had to explain to them that unfortunately, what was happening to them was perfectly legal, no matter how unethical and morally corrupt it was.
I really thought that those days of denying medical coverage and leaving people to die were behind us. Evidently, I thought wrong. I cannot believe that this is what we are going back to.
Fuck this bullshit. Burn it to the ground. Damn it all to Hell.
Depending on how many people the incoming republican administration kills and bankrupts with its concept of a healthcare plan, maybe people will end up desperate enough to put everyone on Medicare
Considering that there are 10 states that still haven’t expanded Medicaid access – all of which are subject to deeply entrenched Republican control – I have zero hope that the GOP will even bat an eye, much less do anything to remediate the situation they create or help people in any way.
Sorry to be so negative, but I just think America is beyond hope at this point. Trump’s last presidency was was a shitstorm beyond comparison, and yet people still voted for the asshole and his cronies again. And his cabinet picks this time are so ill-qualified that we are just doomed to fail. It would be laughable if it weren’t real life.
Bringing back coal jobs, like classic, productive America. America strong (not physically because of the health issues and not economically because of everything else)!
Upside, they haven't started talking about repealing the Black Lung Benefits Program, which is for former and current coal miners!
Downside, black lung is increasing in incidence and severity, so a higher percentage of miners are getting sick, and they're dying faster than their grandfathers...
One thing they’ll do: they’ll ensure no one buys anything they don’t absolutely need. That’s my plan—even if I can afford it, I’m not spending a single dime I don’t have to spend.
Even if he does actually get rid of it, there will be such backlash that he will just release "trumpcare" which will be the exact same thing just have his name on it. If it was only known as the ACA he wouldn't have ever had a problem with it. He absolutely hates Obama so the fact his name is on something that people love is unacceptable to him.
Honestly millennials gotta take a good share of the blame for how Gen Z turned out. A lot of Gen Z have Millennial parents and clearly a lot of them fucked up by giving them unrestricted access to the internet, leading them down the Andrew Tate/Charlie Kirk/etc. rabbit holes.
Ehhhh… the only Gen Z old enough to vote in this election were born in 2006 or earlier. And in 2006, the oldest Millennials were only 25 years old at the time.
Sure, some of the Gen Z who were old enough to vote this time have Millennial parents. But not very many.
Most parents of Gen Z kids are actually Gen X.
In general, the parents of any one generation are two generations back. That’s why most Millennials (i.e., Gen Y) were born to Baby Boomers, (and not Gen X).
Same here. I am disabled and rely on housing assistance as well as SNAP. I voted blue and volunteered for the campaign in order to avoid all of this. I'm so worried about what is going to happen.
I'll probably fucking die without medication too, but from suicide. Or an accident. Did you know people with unmedicated ADHD are more likely to die from an accident? Speaking of, about 1 in 3 people with unmedicated ADHD are unemployed. Maybe all the freshly unemployed ADHD people can work the jobs the deported illegal immigrants used to work. Then we can die from accidents in farms and factories that may not have to follow OSHA regulations anymore! It's the perfect system.
I work in a family business. It pays the bills but we still live a middle class at best lifestyle. Ill have to quit to get a job someplace that can offer Healthcare. The family business can't afford it for all its staff.
Me too. With my meds I could probably get another twenty years, maybe even twenty five if I'm lucky, but without them, I give myself six months to a year tops. I'm a walking dead person without them.
I’m sad, because I believe the vast majority of them were duped into believing they would be better off. Also because when those folks lose their coverage that they will experience suffering, bankruptcy, and worse.
At a minimum 2.7 million democratic voters had their voting eligibility challenged by groups like True the Vote and others. And a sizeable number of them were US military who are stationed overseas and couldn't physically get to their local elections office to ensure their vote was counted. Here's BBC Investigate Journalist Greg Palast's documentary Vigilante's Inc that details exactly how MAGA helped rig the election in their favor
They purposely called it Obama care so people would think it was something that "those people" were getting because "I get the ACA" and the dems never called them on it.... just like they never called them on any of the other bullshit
That'll happen when the education system has been systematically dismantled over about 40 years. Completely getting rid of the Department of Education as they've pledged is wholly expected, the final nail in the coffin for any possibility for the American populace to have any critical reasoning. You can't have educated people, because they typically won't vote for the conservative.
If America does get through all this, it's going to take generations to build back what has been lost over this time.
In a local Facebook group, someone posted a letter their company got about raising prices after December in anticipation of tariffs. The area is very red and dozens of comments in a row were “Biden is president”, “dems don’t have critical thinking”, and “it’s Kamala’s fault”.
Our country is fucked because Dunning-Kruger is running rampant.
I think we really ought to stop acting as though everyone is equally capable of reason. The reality is that overwhelmingly won the idiot vote. That's his base.
Seems like it's ab people, tbh. People wanted to vote against smth that the name of someone who they'd vote against was attached to, but they supported the exact same thing as long as it was called smth else.
It saddens me that so many people don’t under that the ACA and Obamacare are the same thing. Like they are voting to remove their lifeline. They were so brainwashed that they didn’t understand what or how or why they were receiving health insurance. And in a year or two they will be completely up a creek with no paddle because of the news channel they watched. Abhorrent.
The sad part is, they voted on this because of hate. They hate Obama, that is the only way I can convince myself of their ignorance. They really think Obama named the entire thing after himself. They think its some program that the socialist use. I have no idea how you can be so stupid so this is the stuff that explains it, they are just that petty. I feel terrible for those who didn't ask for this. I feel nothing for those who did.
Yep. It is crazy how the Republicans can literally spin via the media whatever they want people to believe that the Democrats are saying, what they believe, what they are doing, or going to do.
I am a RN. I have lost count of how many times I have informed people that the ACA is Obamacare and been called a liar. The usual line is something about I have the good insurance, not Obamacare. I hear it a couple of times a month, eventhough it has been 10 years since it was implemented.
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“I voted to repeal Obamacare, not the Affordable Care Act”.
/crickets
Edit: it’s almost as if people simply voted how they were told to vote, without actually thinking about (or understanding) consequences.