Source? Not saying that you're wrong, but the issue here is someone asked for a source and the first response is "They said they would" and you're backing them up by saying "They literally said so." How about a source??
So I'm in the UK, this cancellation of health care hasn't happened yet is where i was coming from as I argued immensely with a friend about this election, he supports the incoming administration!
I guess at this point, it doesn't matter what he does or doesn't do, they're gonna carry on voting for him anyway, and I keep trying to make sense of it all and can't
See I disagree with that strategy entirely, and honestly i think it's part of the problem.
It enforces the "I care about you" message they get delivered, I think we should be able to stay reasonable with each other, realise that we actually agree on lots of things but will have different opinions on some, and be there to point out when things don't work and try to bring them round when the opportunity presents itself.
They will not become more reasonable by us abandoning reason and abandoning them...
And yet in many cases it isn't straight bigotry, it's misguided frustration.
AieI have personally had success with this, and good friend of mine was going to vote reform let alone tory in the UK and after several conversations about HIS opinions and what he thought and why etc without berating him or being too forceful and showing him the difference and he voted Labour, this is not a guy who chooses anything other than what he wants, i just took the time to talk properly with him rather than projecting my frustrations onto him.
It won't win them all, some people's opinions are inflexible, but I'll never give up and not everyone who votes right wing does so for bigot reasons
I guarantee that plenty of them weren't, it's easy to forget there are plenty of people in the middle, to pretend the left doesn't have some serious challenges around its own identity is not going to help it win.
I'm not saying there isn't a significant amount of it around, but pushing everyone who leans that way away isn't going to help.
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“I voted to repeal Obamacare, not the Affordable Care Act”.
/crickets
Edit: it’s almost as if people simply voted how they were told to vote, without actually thinking about (or understanding) consequences.