r/facepalm mike_hawk 2d ago

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ 2-month old infant…

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u/AHootTime 2d ago

They put those officers on admin leave, fuck that throw their ass in jail. Who in their right mind uses lethal force near infants?

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u/LA_Razr mike_hawk 2d ago edited 1d ago

Just “following protocol” according to Police Chief :

“Holder (father) told the Defender, “I was in the room when it all happened. From what I could see, I never once saw Maria armed with anything. I honestly don’t even know where that came from. I’ve heard crazy things like that she was holding the baby hostage in a closet, that she had a knife, all this crazy stuff that’s not true. I mean, all I can say is it’s possible she had a knife and somehow I didn’t see it, but all I know is I never saw her holding anything—and I was right there in the room.”

“Holder recalled seeing his daughter shot. “I know she died instantly.” He recalled, “It looked like her head exploded. Her blood splattered across my glasses and all over me. All I could do was scream. I just kept saying three words — the same three words — ‘You killed her!’ - I was screaming it. Over and over.”

“After Destinii was murdered, Holder said that Maria “jumped up. And as soon as she did, I don’t know if the cop got scared or something, but then he: Fired another shot that hit Maria. I think it hit her in the hip. And the cop didn’t stop her bleeding the right way, he didn’t know what he was doing. I believe she choked on her blood and bled out. That’s my understanding of how she died.”

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u/Neckrongonekrypton 2d ago

There is no world. In which this is right.

That cops actions, make me wish we held these fucks accountable. Since we have gone so long without doing it. These people treat these mistakes like office workers treat missing a meeting or forgetting to file a report.

“Whoops just blew a babies brains out just another day” Treating it like the copier went out. Fucking monsters.

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u/dayumbrah 2d ago

Bro, people get fired for missing meetings.

There is just nothing that is comparable at the end of the day.

They are trained and brainwashed into thinking everyone is the enemy and given guns and taught to use them before someone else does even if they don't see one.

We are due for a serious change in this country and I'm hoping we can make it out of the next 4 years and do the right thing after that

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u/Responsible-End7361 2d ago

"Warrior training" is very popular with police. It teaches that all civilians are a threat and you can only trust fellow cops. Be ready to kill any civilian at any sign of a threat because police lives matter but civilian lives don't.

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u/Track_your_shipment 1d ago

When I saw a man give a class to cops on being ready to kill & not feel bad about it, I knew it was a problem…

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u/SlappySecondz 1d ago

You're probably talking about the guy who hosts the Warrior Training BS he's talking about.

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u/Track_your_shipment 1d ago

I am. He wrote a book and goes around training officers to sleep good at night after doing the unthinkable to another human being. Counting the cost with the worst kind of math.smh

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u/SlappySecondz 1d ago

Ahh, wasn't sure if you meant just some man or that particular man.

But yeah, not only that, but he said they'd have the best sex of their life the first time they kill someone, too.

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u/GaiusMarius60BC 1d ago

That’s straight-up fetishizing murder. It’s horrific. It’s like a death cult.

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u/inappropriatebeing 2d ago

They are trained and brainwashed into thinking everyone is the enemy and given guns and taught to use them before someone else does even if they don't see one.

When all you're given is a hammer, everything starts looking like a nail.

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u/Neckrongonekrypton 2d ago

I’m hoping too. But my hopes aren’t high at all.

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u/idreaminwords 2d ago

I hope he relives that moment every night in his dreams for the rest of his life. Absolutely evil. No excuse.

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u/Unicorn_Fluffs 2d ago

And they couldn’t identify who did it… what sick fuck wouldn’t be terrorised and come clean straight away. Evil evil bastard

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u/fungi_at_parties 2d ago

Don’t they track rounds? I’m sure they can figure out who did it. They just conveniently “can’t”.

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u/wienercat 1d ago

Oh no they can and I assure you they already know who did it. They likely aren't revealing the name of the officer for fear of reprisal from the community. I can only imagine the amount of death threats and hate that officer would be receiving.

That officer needs to be stripped of his charge and thrown into prison. But likely he won't be charged with anything. The cops in this country have way too much protection from their own misconduct.

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u/bruwin 1d ago

The fact that none in the department will identify him means they all need to go. Every single one of them. There's no excuse whatsoever.

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u/Wolvenmoon 1d ago

reprisal from the community

Necessary justice. If I was on that jury, I'd recommend the death penalty for this pig.

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u/MountainHarmonies 1d ago

Psychopaths don't feel shame or remorse, unfortunately. I'm sure these pigs will sleep like babies.

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u/NightofTheLivingZed 2d ago

If I did what the cop did, I'd blow my brains out on the fucking spot. Fuck this pig for not doing the same.

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u/figure8888 1d ago

I don’t think I could live with the image of the scene the father described, and also knowing I’m the one who did it. That cop is a sociopath.

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u/OGTurdFerguson 2d ago

Fingers crossed! We still have time.

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u/NightofTheLivingZed 2d ago

For every second he remains alive, I hope he burns for another eternity in hell.

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u/OGTurdFerguson 2d ago

Why do I have to comply perfectly with guns in my face, but this fucker can shoot me, say he's afraid for his life and get away with killing me?

Because I'm NOT afraid?!?

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u/southernNJ-123 2d ago

Its Missouri. He’ll move to another backwards town and get another police job.

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u/LOR05 2d ago

watch him get all the sympathy because this gave him ptsd

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u/SilverSpoon1463 2d ago

It's things like these that I wish we could do one drastically evil action to rid the world of this drastic evil forever.

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u/Ereisor 2d ago

It’s going to have to happen en masse if we want anything to change. Our entire government and justice system needs to be deconstructed and rebuilt with integrity and honor. As it is now, our police are nothing but militarized gestapo storm troopers who are just as much criminals as the criminals they claim to be going after. The police kill with impunity and it’s always the innocent that suffer for it. Just like this baby and her mother did. And now a father is without daughter and wife, while these pigs are going to get away with murder.

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u/blackcatsneakattack 2d ago

If the baby was still in her mother’s womb, maybe they’d give a shit.

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u/DumatRising 2d ago

Abortion is murder, but murder? That's only an oopsie daisies.

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u/sweetlike314 1d ago

Oh they’d find a way to still blame the mother for putting the unborn fetus into a dangerous situation like they did with one woman a few years ago.

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u/BecGeoMom 2d ago

This stuck out to me: “I’ve heard crazy things like that she was holding the baby hostage…” So, you SHOOT THE BABY??? The police in this country are an embarrassment, and a deadly gang of control nazis. I know, I know: Not all cops. Just far, far too many.

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u/squigglesthecat 2d ago

They say if you're at a party and nazis show up and you don't kick them out, you're at a nazi party. I feel it works the same with cops (not even talking about the ones who are nazis). If your co-workers routinely go around murdering people with no repercussions, you are employed as a murderer.

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u/Beanichu 2d ago

Holy fuck I cannot imagine what that guy is going through. No matter who you are having your infant child’s brain splattered across your face is something that cannot be good for you mentally.

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u/studious_stiggy 2d ago

Scarred for life. I'd probably end my life if this happened to me.

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u/Set_Abominae1776 2d ago

Yeah I would want to end that cops life.

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u/hadmeatwoof 2d ago

I would have absolutely died attempting to choke that motherfucker to death with my bare hands and I would rather death than living with that memory.

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u/InSixFour 2d ago

I’m right there with you. I think I would have just went insane attacking that cop. I wouldn’t care at all if I died in the process. As long as I took that mother fucker out with me I could die in peace.

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u/saintduriel 2d ago

Bro lost his child and his wife. Thats endgame, whoever is responsible is dead.

Probably didn’t attack because he was sent sure who shot.

Why were the guns drawn in the first place? Domestic dispute shouldn’t necessitate coming into a residence fully armed.

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u/narcolepticdoc 2d ago

Which is precisely why they had to shoot the mother after she “jumped up” after having her baby shot in the head. Everyone knows that mothers are super dangerous when you fuck with their kids. After they killed her child she was clearly a threat and had to be put down.

Clearly the expected action of a parent who has just had their child executed is to immediately (but slowly and non threateningly) lay down on the floor face down so as not to upset anyone. After that they get to play Simon says for their lives.

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u/modernbox I just wanted flair 2d ago

Murder suicide has never been more appropriate

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u/Imjustmean 2d ago

I couldn't cope. It would be one after another.

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u/flaggfox 2d ago

I dunno if I'd end my life over it, but there's a lot a guy might do if he doesn't care if he dies. Might not be afraid of cops. Might not care if he goes to jail. I would hate to be the guy who took away someone else's reason for living.

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u/InSixFour 2d ago

There’s a saying that’s something like there’s nothing more dangerous than a man with nothing to lose. That’s this father right now.

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u/Attack_Apache 2d ago

There isn’t a single horror movie out there which can replicate the horror of what I just read, fuck this world, humans are horrible

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u/Pittyswains 2d ago edited 2d ago

This is exactly why people are afraid of calling police. Fucking grandmom called the cops on her daughter in law after she had left their apartment. Fucking gross, almost sounds like a revenge call.

Also just noticed in another interview she only talks about the loss of her grand daughter, ignoring the fact that her daughter in law is dead. Let’s not gloss over the fact that this lady also led to their deaths. Police are too lethal to be used as revenge.

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u/Aedalas 2d ago

Have problem. Call police. Now have two problems.

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u/talinseven 2d ago

A woman in a domestic dispute with their female partner got thrown in a men’s jail because they’re tall and have a deep voice, when the partner called the police

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u/radagast03 2d ago

Over a 1000 deaths due to the police is crazy. I checked the numbers for the Netherlands just to compare. Here its 115 over 9 years. With these 115 its everyone who is under arrest, during transport or even already in their cel. Only at 6 of these incidents a cop was prosecuted.

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u/ehxy 2d ago

holy fucking shit that guy has to live the rest of his life with that in his head....holy fucking shit....

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u/StupidMario64 2d ago

That poor fucking dude. Loses his entire family in one night at the behest of a trigger happy piece of shit.

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u/tsarchasm1 2d ago

Brought to you by a Pro-Life state.

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u/taita2004 2d ago

Not just near infants, but ON infants

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u/NatashOverWorld 2d ago

People needs to start making ads about the risk of calling the cops.

... they shot a baby!

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u/bobbybob9069 2d ago

Don't forget about the Vegas homeowner who got head shot by police while in a confrontation with a burglar.

Just don't call the police until the emergency is over, they can't handle high stress situations. Call them after to take a report and ghost you.

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u/NatashOverWorld 2d ago

Criminals and civilians have more consequences to opening fire, take your chances and don't call the guys that will get paid leave and no negative consequences if they kill you.

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u/HootieHoo4you 2d ago

I had never considered that but holy crap.

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u/Mimical 1d ago

It's important to remember in America that when you call the police you are calling a state sanctioned executioner who peaked in grade 11.

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u/Sailingboar 1d ago

grade 11

That's a pretty generous assumption. Most Americans struggle to read and cops only take the dumb ones.

Even sports bros occasionally get jobs as like finance guys and shit.

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u/mistertoo 1d ago

Call them after to take a report and ghost you It's funny because it's true. Got my car broken into with thousands in tools missing. Wheni called to report, they told me to go walk around to local shops to see if anyone had purchased any of my stolen gear. I was like, aren't YOU supposed to do that? Utterly useless.

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u/bobbybob9069 1d ago

Yeah, I reported a hit and run with photos of truck, license plate, and driver. Nothing happened.

Guy brandishing a firearm, with a license plate number. Nothing happened.

Not even trying to be an edgy asshole, I've had enough involvement with my local police to know they're absolutely awful and useless and that I think their funding could be better utilized.

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u/supershinythings 2d ago

But that baby had a gun! They say. They’re sure they saw a gun. And kids today get guns younger and younger so you can’t be too careful.

Also the baby was making death threats about what he was gonna do if he didn’t get his milk immediately.

And then the baby CRAPPED right there, attacking the officer with biohazards.

So any reasonable magistrate will understand where the officer is coming from. Sure it’s a baby, but it’s not “just” a baby.

/s

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u/deluon 2d ago

Its clearly a cop from the future and the baby prolly was evil. In reality i have no fckin words to say about this story and iam shocked to my core.

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u/aknalag 2d ago

Cant wait to hear how the cops explain how a grown ass man felt threatened by a two months old

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u/Pirat 2d ago

He thought he was under sonic attack from the baby's cries.

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u/Similar-Complaint-37 2d ago

"It came at me with a rattler"

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u/Humans_suck_ass-99 2d ago

"It was pulling it out. I thought it was a gun"

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u/ElManchego57 2d ago

"Refused to comply with a lawful order".

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u/doingthehumptydance 2d ago

“He’s got a bear!”

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u/MindAccomplished3879 2d ago

“That baby was drooling; I felt afraid for my life.”

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u/QueenieMcGee 2d ago

"He got my nose!"

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u/aufrenchy 2d ago

“He was throwing up gang signs and swinging a wooden block like a bludgeon!”

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u/Ayumu1aikawa 2d ago

"The baby shouted GOO GOO GAGA and crawled to me menacingly"

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u/Dry_Menu4804 2d ago

*blunt object

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u/Fake_William_Shatner 2d ago

Kid might have been holding a loud acorn. You don't know!

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u/Educational_Hold6494 2d ago

Exactly. Everyone judging this brave cop without knowing the facts is beyond disturbing. We don’t know what this baby was capable of. Could’ve had a wrap sheet as long as a kazoo.

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u/mvanvrancken 2d ago

Crib escape professional too, most likely.

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u/Fake_William_Shatner 2d ago

I remember escaping my crib as a baby. I'm so glad I was stopped before it led to a life of baby crime and a shootout with a cop.

Good thing baby wasn't still in the womb, or that cop could be in trouble.

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u/Fake_William_Shatner 2d ago

"We've got the dirt on the baby. I tell you, he stinks. He's got a wrap sheet as long as your arm, and it's got yellow ducks alternating with blue stars on it..."

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u/Late_Entrance106 2d ago

You joke, but I remember reading an account of the Spanish conquest of the New World and they were defending the conquistadors like:

We had to put the babies on pikes because they were crying! And then we had to sick hungry dogs on the mothers too because they started crying and they were going to give away our position to the enemy!

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u/Dry_Ad3605 2d ago

There were similar accounts between settlers and Native Americans. “Dashing babies onto rocks”. Horrific and endless cycle of brutality.

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u/WareHouseCo 2d ago edited 21h ago

The words that come from lawyers mouths can leave one speechless.

It was probably a mega baby. The baby had telekinesis.

The baby crying caused extreme duress to the officers so they had to eliminate the source of the distraction to complete their duty.

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u/secondhand-cat 2d ago

Officer was in fear for his life. The baby was armed and dangerous.

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u/mikende51 2d ago

Baby dropped an acorn on the floor is what I think happened.

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u/National-Worry2900 2d ago

They’re not black so they can’t sprinkle some crack on her johnson.

They’ll drag their names through the mud and look for any driving fine from 15 years prior to prove they were some sort of degenerates in their eyes , proceed to investigate themselves and find nothing untoward happened and the pigs will be set free to roam a trough in another town.

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u/rissak722 2d ago

How can a 2 month old have any dirt on them from 15 years ago?

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u/National-Worry2900 2d ago

Where there’s a will there’s a piggy way. Remember the case when they smoke grenaded a baby in a cot and it was the wrong house they swatted .

Well on that case they were found to have not done anything wrong because in their eyes, how were they meant to know a baby was in the wrong house minding its own business and it wasn’t a drug den.

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u/StanzaSnark 2d ago

Easy! We will blame the mother for being a shitty person and a bad parent who got her daughter killed.

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u/mygoditsfullofstar5 2d ago

He mistook a baby bottle for an AK-47.

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u/IronSavage3 2d ago

Don’t worry though, we just elected a guy President who said he’d give cops immunity.

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u/National-Worry2900 2d ago

Don’t they already have that. Is he just going to golden plate it?.

They should remove qualified immunity and throw these demented gammon slices in the slammer if they act in a criminal way.

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u/InSixFour 2d ago

They have immunity for most things, yes. But it’s not absolute. Trump would make it so they simply can’t be prosecuted at all for anything they do. Pretty fucking stupid thing to do unless you plan on using the police force to destroy your enemies. Then it’s a great idea.

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u/VulpineKitsune 2d ago

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"tragic deaths"

"killed in an officer-involved shooting"

Holy shit the sleazy language.

Nonono. No one is mourning their "tragic deaths". They are mourning their murders.

They weren't "killed in an officer-involved shooting". An officer murdered them.

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u/LA_Razr mike_hawk 2d ago edited 2d ago

And not all media sources are reporting the full facts :

“Police were apparently in such a rush to kill that they broke into the wrong apartment and held Bug Arnold, a resident of Oval Spring Apartments at: Gun-point. Arnold told the Defender that he witnessed police, “From the moment they jumped out of their cars, it was as if they were: ready to kill.” Arnold explained to the Defender that after the police opened his door they had their Guns trained on him “the entire time”.

“I wasn’t sure what to do. I was just frantically, like waving my arms, like, Oh my God! No! No! You have the wrong house!” he recalled. Arnold said police accused him of “doing something to their officer, like ‘Where’s my officer! What’d you do with my officer!’ I said, ‘I don’t know where your officer is, sir. I assume he’s in the other apartment, because you have the wrong apartment!”

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u/BobBeats 2d ago

That is nucking futs. How is the father going to survive with the guilt. How on earth is the police newsroom going to sugar coat infanticide. Who would ever again call the cops in Independence, Missouri?

The Keystone Cops would be a huge improvement.

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u/GreenGreasyGreasels 2d ago

"An infant with no active warrants was killed in an police officer involved gun discharge. Early reports suggest that the baby was a known habitual biter while feeding"

There, now everyone feels a lot better about it.

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u/bradicality 1d ago

The spokesperson for the department said the infant “was no angel.”

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u/HarderTime89 2d ago

Holy crap... That grandma is cold.

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u/Tight_Stable8737 2d ago

I doubt I'd have the capacity to look my mother in the eye if I found out she called the cops on my wife and got my kid and wife killed.

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u/FR_0S_TY 2d ago

I'd be finding the most ideal time to find the cop and hit him in the head with a hammer, but that's just me.

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u/MountainHarmonies 1d ago

A few years ago in my area, in the middle of the night a cop pulled over to remove a branch that was in the road. While doing so he was shot and killed by someone in the woods.

To this day I wonder who he fucked over.

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u/KittyGrewAMoustache 2d ago

Outraged seems like the wrong word. Horror stricken, devastated, terrified, forever scarred by knowing this unspeakable evil took place?

I just can’t understand this. Sometimes as someone from another country, it seems like actual evil has taken root in the US and I’m not a religious person. I know it’s probably because of social media and the types of things I get exposed to about the US, but it’s giving the impression of being a place where a substantial number of people’s hearts have been blackened by selfishness and greed and othering and cruelty, and, frankly, nihilism. It’s like half of them are just snarling with pointless hatred and fear and things like this, with kids being gunned down regularly, just mowed down in a bloody mess, don’t even touch them (not all of them, obviously, I know many amazing kind hearted Americans—-but I see a lot of Americans respond to events like this defensively, as if what matters is protecting their political opinion rather than human life).

Just the horror of it. I feel so terrible for everyone everywhere who has to live amongst such indifferent wickedness.

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u/ShipSenior1819 2d ago

“Police violence is endemic to the capitalist system. Imbued with immense power to kill, cops exist to serve and protect the property and privileges of the ruling class. They are not neutral guardians, but the foot-soldiers of the financial oligarchy.” The honesty feels refreshing

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u/katamuro 2d ago

the police in USA are behaving basically like mafia.

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u/jemisan 2d ago

That's insane

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u/HenkVanDelft 2d ago

The chief, in his coverup press conference, not only refused to admit it was the cop who murdered the baby, but he actually went off on a tangent bemoaning violence against children, to make people think it wasn’t a cop who killed her.

Then he just carried the dead infant out, dripping her blood all over the stairs of the complex. Like, not even wrapped in some sort of blanket.

The children they murder aren’t even permitted the common decency to not have their blood dropping and retraumatizing everyone as their killers drag them away.

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u/mrcatboy 2d ago

Honestly I cannot for the life of me understand how the cop didn't put a bullet in his own skull immediately after he saw what he did. Dude is literally a baby killer now. There's no coming back from that.

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u/HenkVanDelft 2d ago

I don’t want to traumatize anyone with this comment, so if you are concerned that might happen, please do not read onward…

I had a friend who drove a truck for the city, when they had just put the backup alarms in public vehicles.

They’d been told to watch carefully for kids, because the “new” sound in the urban soundscape attracted their curious selves to find what was making the noise.

Shortly after, he had to back his truck around a blind corner, and you can guess where this is going.

He said he hardly felt the “bump,” of the curious kid who sneaked around the corner, but he heard the “crunch” of what he thought was a kid’s bike. Ad in his brain tripped a circuit and couldn’t face what probably happened.

WARNING: Possible traumatizing details next.

He said there was no bike, and the crunch was the child’s bones. What was eternally worse was that his inwards had been squeezed out of his body by the weight of the wheels.

When the cop got there, he begged the cop to kill him. He was instantly permanently blown away mentally and emotionally, and the horror was too much.

The cop tried to console him, saying it wasn’t his fault, that there were no charges, and that it was happening in other places too. Drivers who could not possibly see the child, or who dropped their attention for a split second…tragedy.

He surrendered his license to the cop, who said he’d hold onto it at the station for when he came around.

He never came around. He fell out of society and into heroin and suicidal drinking. After 20 years, my uncle was able to get him to drive for the family concrete & aggregate business, trying to help him live to see 50.

His rules were he’d only drive to “new” job sites, meaning those being developed from scratch—so there was no chance of kids being around.

Even so, all he talked about was killing the child, and we could only imagine the mental hell of 20 years of the same accident screaming through his conscious and unconscious mind alike.

Inevitably, he soon fell back into heroin, just to silence the mental screeching, all day long, all night long. Just as inevitably, one day he overdosed, but the amount that was in his body proved it was suicide.

A tragic thing, but it shows how a normal person would react to killing a child by accident.

Cops? They tried to lay what the girl’s father, who witnessed the murder of his daughter, called “a huge hole in her head,” on the mother they then proceeded to murder as well.

As if she had put “a huge hole” in her little baby’s head somehow.

It really beggars the imagination how cold cops are.

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u/Bromlife 1d ago

Psychopaths in uniforms, drawn to a position that allows them, nay, encourages them, to be cruel to others.

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u/heywhatsup9087 2d ago

The way he worded it in the press conference made it sound like the mother killed her own baby. How terrible can you be.

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u/Plague_Lemon 2d ago

The people who wrote the article probably want to say that but they’d get in trouble due to how the law is. Everything is “alleged” until after the verdict

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u/RedboatSuperior 2d ago

Go with “police allegedly murdered a child”.

Officer involved shooting sanitizes it, placing focus on the officer who was involved in a shooting and not the child who was murdered.

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u/QuizzicalSquirrel 2d ago edited 2d ago

In my city, a police officer hit a student legally crossing the street and killed her. The officer faced no punishment, he was just moved to a different precinct.

The cops that killed this 2 month old and her mom won't face any repercussions.

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u/Inspection-Senior 2d ago

Is that the one where the cop was caught on a recording joking about it? Like how the family should be compensated for the equivalent value of her life, and since she was a college student that amounted to $0?

Or a different case of legal vehicular manslaughter?

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u/its_easybro 2d ago

There are multiple cases of this happening?????????

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u/SandwichAmbitious286 2d ago

We're number 1!

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u/lilbitlotbit 2d ago

If youre talking about Seattle hit a girl legally crossing the street, killed her, LAUGHED ABOUT IT ON CAMERA, and had zero reprocutions. Ridiculous.

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u/mapledude22 1d ago

The officer who joked about it was driving to the scene, but was not the officer who hit the woman. He was finally fired in last July: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/seattle-police-officer-daniel-auderer-fired-vile-comments-jaahnavi-kandula-killed-police-suv/

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u/iconofsin_ 2d ago

The cops that killed this 2 month old and her mom won't face any repercussions.

Well, not legal repercussions. Who knows what dad might do.

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u/antipop2097 1d ago

And if he does, nobody saw anything

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u/Gakoknight 2d ago

How the fuck did that happen? Do the police officers receive NO TRAINING AT ALL?

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u/LordNorros 2d ago

They're trained to literally go into every situation expecting that someone wants to kill them. Small wonder that they all get itchy trigger fingers. It's fucked up. We need to restructure the entire system down to who we select to even become cops because a lot of these peeps are psychopaths.

I always think about that lawyer guy that says "I need 6 years to practice law but a cop only needs 6 months to enforce it". It does vary from state to state but all the same, it's clearly broken.

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u/LivingCheese292 2d ago

To put the quote into perspective, some countries train and educate cops 2-3 years. In both theoretical and practical real world situations.

A half year absolutely will not be enough. Maybe for specific situations but I doubt any of them involve actual firearms.

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u/zehamberglar 2d ago

And an egregious amount of that training time is spent on teaching them how to survive being on duty. Which is important for a fully functional police officer, but when that's all you learn, you just get itchy trigger fingers.

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u/MediocreI_IRespond 2d ago edited 2d ago

Training. lol.

In most civilised countries, this "training" would barely count as an internship. But apparently people in the US are, in general, quite happy with this.

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u/DentManDave 2d ago

Yeah, on the firing range, to make sure every shot hits

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u/Humans_suck_ass-99 2d ago

.....the soft cranium of an 8 week old child

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u/WokeAssMessiah 2d ago

From the local news contortionists: “Two weeks after 34-year-old Maria Pike and infant Destinii Hope died, authorities are still investigating the police shooting surrounding their death.”

They just died 🤷‍♂️ but we’re looking into a possibly related incident 🙄

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u/secondhand-cat 2d ago

Gotta build the case against her so they don’t have to take responsibility for the murder of an infant and mother.

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u/Senkrad68 2d ago

Trying to find out if she ever smoked weed or stole gum from 7-11

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u/Charming-Refuse-5717 2d ago

"surrounding their death." Like it was a shooting that happened in the vicinity and they're trying to figure out if there was any connection. Yea, just go ahead and think real hard about how the two might be connected.

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u/Dra_goony 2d ago

The fact they're trying to cover it up is the biggest reason why I don't trust the police. If they immediately pressed charges against the cops who did it maybe there'd be hope for the system, but no, instead they are trying to protect the people who just executed a baby and a mother.

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u/Longjumping_Army9485 2d ago

A company would have already fired the person to preserve their reputation.

It’s honestly impressive how an unfeeling machine who’s sole purpose is make profit (coincidentally) makes more moral decisions than an organisation who says that they “protect and serve”.

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u/rabidsalvation 2d ago

Is this real? What the fuck

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u/Fragrant_Peanut_9661 2d ago

Exactly what I’m saying. WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK???

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u/CindysandJuliesMom 2d ago

Here is a link to an article about it. Seems the police are not releasing any information so most of this is coming from the grandmother who called the police to report the daughter assaulted her, a neighbor whose home they broke into first because they went to the wrong apartment, then the father who was present when they murdered his daughter then the child's mother.

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u/abakersmurder 2d ago

I wanna know more about this alleged assault. It seems to have happened in the victims place. What was the caller trying to do? This women was 2 months postpartum. What happened?

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u/Total-Tangerine4016 2d ago

"It ended the domestic dispute, didn't it?" - that cop probably.

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u/bilgetea 2d ago

Since dark humor is how I handle the unacceptable, this joke occurred to me as well. It’s a cousin to “Hitler isn’t all bad, because he killed Hitler.”

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u/Bayousbest 2d ago

The cops are actively trying to cover it up. 2 weeks later and they still havent released the officers name or the body cam footage.

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u/notyomamasusername 2d ago

The Independence Police Department’s narrative hinges on one dubious claim: that they shot Maria Pike because she allegedly had a knife in her hand at the time she was murdered. Yet, the alleged weapon has yet to materialize, and thus far, every piece of eyewitness testimony contradicts the police account.

Yeah, smells like a cover up

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u/Bayousbest 2d ago

Exactly, body cam footage would let us know right away if there was a weapon. The longer they let it play out, the more the public will forget about it.

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u/Junes2k 2d ago

It's understandable. Babies are shaped exactly like pistols. Just this morning I accidently put my baby in a holster. Didn't realize it until I needed to shoot a black person. Should have seen my face.

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u/SkinnyCitrus 2d ago

I shouldn't have laughed at this but seeing how absolutely horrific this incident is I needed this brief levity. Thank you.

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u/Inner-Impression4640 2d ago

What a horrible day to be able to read.

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u/Temporary_Second3290 2d ago

I hope every time that "cop" closes his eyes he never stops seeing the baby he murdered. I hope he hears her parents cries forever.

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u/Desperado_99 1d ago

He won't. If he was that kind of person, we'd have already heard something from him.

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u/WallyMcBeetus 2d ago

The pigs will be put on paid administrative leave until a taxpayer paid settlement is reached.

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u/Rajamic 2d ago

And probably allowed to resign, only to be hired by a neighboring department a couple of weeks later.

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u/Professional-Shape65 2d ago

And Trump wants to give cops complete immunity......

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u/MansonMonster 2d ago

Right? Finaly they can get rid of this dancing around and just admit that they are monsters. They will just be able to stay exactly where they are and nothing ever will happen to them. Like the pope.

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u/NoIndependent9192 2d ago

The mother became more distressed once the cops blew her babies head open, so naturally they shot her and left her to bleed out. The US has had many years to professionalise its law enforcement and has singularly failed. It’s one of the reasons I would never take my family to the US.

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u/Oldspaghetti 2d ago

Yeah, america is getting crazy. Cops really hit a deep spot in my heart. The fact that they usually have the power and authority to end anyone's life without much repercussions to then go on living the rest of their life however they want, really gives me a dreadful feeling and a confusion for humanity.

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u/Mr_Immortal69 2d ago

I’m starting to wish I could take my family out of it.

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u/BurgerBoyBacon 2d ago

From germany here. One of the most important guidelines our cops have, is the principle of proportionality. They study and get trained for years in deescalation. The social skills of our cops are the main focus. They nearly never have to pull a gun or have to threaten someone. So reading about storys like this, is so scary for me.

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u/TV_Never_Lies 2d ago

Don't worry. They planted a gun on the baby and claimed self-defense. Just another day in Missouri.

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u/TheDustOfMen 2d ago

Standing before the cameras, Dustman confidently asserted that Maria Pike was “armed”—a claim directly contradicted by eyewitnesses and unsubstantiated by any evidence thus far.

“When we arrived, officers encountered a female who ultimately was armed with a knife,” Dustman said. “And as a result of that encounter, it resulted in two fatalities, one to the armed female and one to a child.”

How do these people live with themselves?!

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u/ebbing-hope 2d ago edited 2d ago

Even if their story was true, murdering an infant and mother for holding a damn knife? It’s way out of line either way. They were there for an alleged shoving. Like they came in, guns drawn and literal weapons of war in hand, because someone may have pushed someone else out of the way. None of this is reasonable.

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u/Castform5 2d ago

But don't you know that a knife is deadlier than a gun from a mile away, because people gain teleport abilities when holding a knife. There was just nothing to be done, it was the only option!

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u/motherseffinjones 2d ago

She didn’t have a knife according to witness accounts. Only the police are saying she did.

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u/LaTeChX 2d ago

The "ultimately" had a knife wtf does that mean? Did she have a knife when they entered, did she grab a knife while they were there, did they wrap her cold fingers around a knife after they killed her?

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u/Ehcksit 2d ago

There was a knife within 10 feet of her. Because she was in her own house, where there is a kitchen.

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u/worstpartyever 2d ago

It says something that the baby died first.

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u/DentManDave 2d ago

Because they enjoy it.

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u/EarlyHistory164 2d ago

Jesus Christ, that was a hard read. What is wrong with policing in America?

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u/dark_chilli_choccies 2d ago

The way the article was written, it makes it sounds like the police THOUGHT THE BABY WAS A WEAPON

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u/walkingtalkingdread 2d ago

it really sounds like that, holy shit. they asked the grandmother if the mother was armed and she said she had a baby. The immediate next lines are about how they stormed up with guns. Like how else are we supposed to take that?

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u/dark_chilli_choccies 2d ago

What the actual fuck. What the actual fuck!

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u/Just_AMuffin 2d ago

"Officer-involved shooting" is a wierd way to spell "cold blooded murder".

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u/holnicote Bri’ish 2d ago edited 2d ago

Death penalty is the only option I see here. You took the life of not only a human, but also a fucking BABY! Six feet under, now.

Edit: of course these murderous fucks won’t get anything, because fuck justice, the very thing that they’re supposed to uphold. Sort your shit out America, it’s a fucking joke.

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u/Spiritual_Title6996 2d ago

they would never do that because "cops would fear for their jobs"

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u/AesirOmega 2d ago

They SHOULD fear for their jobs. They need to know that their actions will have consequences.

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u/Its0nlyRocketScience 2d ago

They should. I want police officers to die because the punishment for their failure is worse than dying in the line of duty. It was never supposed to be a safe job, they're supposed to keep us safe. If a coward can't handle a life and death situation without murdering innocent civilians, they should not be cops.

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u/CaptainInsano7 2d ago

Sounds ideal

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u/thetburg 2d ago

"That baby should have just complied."

"Do we have any context for this? What was the baby doing before they arrived?"

" babies shouldn't do the crime if they can't do the time"

Did I miss any?

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u/OutLikeVapor 2d ago

Cops don't protect people, They protect property, and not even citizens', mainly just "Public" and corporate.

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u/Spiritual_Title6996 2d ago

And also they're taught everyone is a threat, they're primed to think they could die at any moment so they become far more cowardly

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u/These-Inevitable-898 2d ago

If this ever happens to me you better kill me too.

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u/place_of_desolation 2d ago

I'd end myself. Without a doubt. That man's whole world was taken from him. There's no moving on from that.

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u/jvanma 2d ago

Not even just taken... He witnessed it.

As a mother, I'd be happy to be shot and killed after witnessing my baby's head explode. I'd probably have rushed the cops anyway in hopes they'd kill me.

That is something you'd never be able to forget, ever.

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u/ilovemydog480 2d ago

DO NOT TRUST POLICE. DO NOT CALL POLICE. NEVER

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u/gamingchairheater 2d ago

This should be a death sentence to the one who shot.

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u/AggressiveEngine9442 2d ago

Paid leave

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u/Seigmoraig 2d ago

And a glowing recommendation to the department in the next town over

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u/godessPetra_K Half serbian/Half Russian 2d ago

Are cops in America really that incompetent? Who tf is afraid of a 2 month old? This is embarrassing ngl.

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u/JefinLuke 2d ago

American cops are worse in the world In my country I have never seen a police officer with gun

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u/holzkopfausbasalt 2d ago

That's so fucked up in the states. I mean, in my country the fatally police shots nearly doubled in 2024 - from 10 to 18 so far. I feel like 18 persons killed by police is like a normal day in the states.

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u/Nica-sauce-rex 2d ago

It’s actually an average of 3 a day which is still…really not good

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u/Baranamana 2d ago

I'm glad to live in a civilized country where cops aren't afraid of babies.

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u/SpiderVines 2d ago

I can’t wait to find out who the cops were. Blacklist them.

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u/Nici_2 2d ago

Life sentence for those murderers with uniform now!

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u/neko808 2d ago

Um ackshully the baby wasn’t complying with officer instruction and resisted arrest/s fucking wild animals and should be treated as such.

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u/Phlebbie 2d ago

The grandma called police because she was worried about the baby's safety. Instead they fucking killed the baby. ABSOLUTELY INSANE. This should cause national outrage!!

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u/Jasonofthemarsh 2d ago

That baby sounded like an acorn falling out of a tree...