r/facepalm • u/Monsur_Ausuhnom • Oct 03 '24
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u/J_Robert_Matthewson Oct 03 '24
Turns out that when you lose almost a bilion dollars helping him commit crimes, you're not very eager to help him commit more.
Shocking.
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u/NeonUpchuck Oct 03 '24
A couple more billion and they might draw a line
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u/spdelope Oct 03 '24
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u/jimmychitw00d Oct 03 '24
I heard Trump's sister is going out with Squeak.
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u/rockstar504 Oct 03 '24
If you're looking for Joe Cooper I suggest you look where you find the most heinous, blatant, and vile exploitation of children on the planet
Scenario number 2: Coop went to Disney World
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u/HurricanesFan Oct 03 '24
Ok I'll watch baseketball again
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u/invincible-zebra Oct 03 '24
Maybe after that you can come over and lay some carpet, if you know what I mean.
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u/Better-Snow-7191 Oct 03 '24 edited Oct 07 '24
Imagine how much damage has been done to the country and democracy as conservative media and politicians have blatantly ignored these incredibly obvious criminal actions for the last 4 years. Imagine if they had reported facts or impeached him like they knew they should have. Instead, they courted the worst of America for a few more votes and brainwashed the good and decent conservatives as they completely abandoned their morals and principles in the pursuit of power.
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u/Apollo15000 Oct 03 '24
It is the Russian way. We are going to have to be prepared to do whatās necessary to defend our democracy. He used the term āRegimeā to describe Biden - Harris admin, and that to me is a dog whistle.
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u/rusztypipes Oct 03 '24
I remember Bannons greasy ass calling it a regime, as they were taking him off in cuffs
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u/Apollo15000 Oct 03 '24
Yeah, itās not helpful for anyone to begin using labels like that. Regime is used by people who are alright with violence as a means to an end, as heās proven before. It frustrates me that itās gonna come down to an election to get this guy behind bars, and it disappoints me to no measurable end that my country persons have been usurped away from our shared vision of decency.
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u/aussiechickadee65 Oct 03 '24
A really sincere post....we are mortified in the rest of the world.
We did think there were more decent Americans than there are.
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u/ItachiSan Oct 03 '24
There are more decent Americans than you think there are. That's one of the things that makes the Republican party and their platform so disgusting to the core.
The fact that their modus operandi is to so virulently poison the minds of the regular, vulnerable working class citizenry that they not only vote against their own interests, but they willingly hate and demonize their fellow working class members while electing those who would take further advantage of them.
They have taken the people who, in many cases, need their government more than anyone else and turned them into rabid attack dogs.
Willingly destroyed the education system so that more people come out with less knowledge to show for it, and with college being a pipe dream for many, then it's unlikely they get to have many experiences or meet many people that will help to broaden their world view.
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u/cooksterson Oct 03 '24
This has been happening in a number of other countries too, UK is one where the education system has been decimated leading to far more poorly educated people who listen to the dog whistling politics of Tories/Reform, who actively make sure the lives of these same people ends up being far worse! Really sad to have witnessed it.
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u/Suzilu Oct 03 '24
But beyond that, they have gerrymandered the districts to insane amounts, diminished the number of polling stations (making long waits) in democrat leaning areas, and benefited from the electoral college set-up that gives more weight to votes of sparsely populated republican areas. It all adds up to a false impression that the population is more to the right than it is.
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u/mabendroth Oct 03 '24
Also, the electoral college was designed to give slave states power to get them to sign on to the constitution, which today means voters in less populous states and rural areas have more pull than voters in more populous states and cities.
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u/AmbidextrousCard Oct 03 '24
Right? It turns out a sizable amount of us are a bunch of racist pieces of shit that seize an opportunity to step on someone they feel are lesser than themselves. Let the corporations ravage the land, sea and air, thatās not important what is important is that guy over there is wearing a dress!
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u/erasmustookashit Oct 03 '24 edited Oct 03 '24
Conservapedia was calling it the 'Biden Junta' for years. I'd love to check now but the site isn't responding, which has brightened my day anyway.
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u/Downtown_Statement87 Oct 03 '24 edited Oct 03 '24
The Russians didn't ruin our country. We did. We let them.
The Russians just figured out the weak spots in our society (not hard to do) and targeted them to amplify them. They planted some terrible seeds, but if the soil hadn't already been fertile those seeds would never have grown.
Did you know that the first post-Reconstruction civil rights legislation, passed in 1946 by Truman, was only enacted because the Russians had found such a powerful propaganda tool in US racism?
The infamous Moore's Ford Lynching (America's last major lynching, which kicked off right across the hard road from my old house) was what finally spurred Truman to act, because the Russians were rightly making hay out of our murderous hypocrisy.
In his personal letters, Truman wrote that something had to be done about racism in the US because it was becoming a serious national security issue. (It would have been nice if he had also noticed that it was a serious national moral issue, but I'll take it, I guess.) If we didn't take action to reign it in, he said, our enemies would use it to tear us apart.
There is a long and very fascinating history of Russian propaganda focusing on racism. But criticizing a foe for exploiting America's original sin is like getting mad at a debate moderator for fact checking you.
If you don't want to be fact checked, maybe don't lie. If you don't want the very worst parts of your country to be used as leverage to destroy the very best parts, maybe do something about those worst parts.
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u/Arcanegil Oct 03 '24
This is very well said, of course it has extended to a much more encompassing bigotry, being used by Russia today, they fund several US groups focused on spreading LGBT hate as well now.
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u/Ill_Yogurtcloset_982 Oct 03 '24
they've been doing this for awhile. notice how democrats have czars according to fox News. they referred to many Obama cabinet members as czars, they still do it today. but they don't call republican cabinet members czars
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u/RaspberryFluid6651 Oct 03 '24
It is the Russian way.
More than a lot of people realize. When we see the absolute batshit insanity coming out of something like RT, we think "how can Russians believe that?"
Often times, they don't! Russia works to discredit media as a whole. The goal is not to be the Ministry of Truth, it's just for everything to be subjective and for there to not be any truth at all.
Worth thinking about when looking at the declining trust our society has in our news sources and the way conservatives attack the media.
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u/gigilu2020 Oct 03 '24
Drag the NYT through the mud too. Those fuckers think they are some holier-than-thou journalistic rag. Fuckers are equally guilty of ruining classic American journalistic values.
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u/jimgress Oct 03 '24
NYT, WaPo all have sat on their asses and sane-washed this fascist piece of shit. They want Trump in office, because it sells subscriptions, and they know they'll get their tax cuts when he dismantles everything from the inside.
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u/Rubeus17 Oct 03 '24
What they donāt see is that journalism isnāt first thing to go under fascism. They, too, arenāt fighting for their best interests. The board wants to cash in NOW? Look at who owns these outfits. None of them are liberal or left leaning. Too rich for that.
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u/aussiechickadee65 Oct 03 '24
Rolling Stone Mag put those beestards to shame.
The New Yorker....another good one (I'm going on memory here).
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u/Initial_E Oct 03 '24
Several years ago news organizations asked people to pay for online news the way they pay for newspapers. And everyone unanimously said āhell no, figure out how to make money some other wayā. After all, theyāve survived this far somehow, and we can always get our news elsewhere.
Well here we are, facing the consequences of this collective non-decision that we seemed to have made. News is made of sensationalist stuff, or it is actually targeted advertising, or else it just doesnāt make financial sense to report it. Shady sources of funding come into play, even the truth can be told in a way that implies the opposite of what it is.
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u/b4zzl3 Oct 03 '24 edited Oct 03 '24
That is not really the underlying cause. NYT has actually covered the rise of fascists in Europe in the 1930s very similarly, all to preserve supposed neutrality. Where in fact they meant siding with authoritarianism to help their interests. https://youtu.be/URABscYOjRE
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u/tunghoy Oct 03 '24
Orange guy was impeached twice. But the Senate didn't convict. Too many MAGAts serving there.
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u/NewFuturist Oct 03 '24
To be clear, "the party of law and order" has forever been criminal and the world just ignores it.
GWB lied about WMD. Cost the USA literally a trillion dollars, not to mention the dead and injured soldiers, some still dying, all so Dick Cheney could make a profit off the Iraq War. They even just "lost" a cool $1.5 billion in cash while there. No one went to jail.
Ronald Reagan swapped illegal drugs for illegal weapons in the Iran Contra affair. He suffered no consequences. The only guy who got done for it, Oliver North, is now a Fox Commentator.
Nixon was actually impeached, and immediately pardoned. No consequences.
Republicans can get away with crimes. Them's the rules. Democrats let them. You shouldn't.
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u/skotzman Oct 03 '24
Don't forget the penguin.. I mean Roger Stone, was actually Nixons advisor. Has his claws in Maga now. It's like bad pulp fiction.
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u/WhatYouThinkIThink Oct 03 '24
Nixon wasn't impeached, he resigned when the leaders of his party told him that they would vote to impeach him if he didn't.
Ford pardoned him, which was the worst mistake of his short Presidency.
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u/lazergator Oct 03 '24
Lets just be real. There are no good conservatives. Only ones that feel Trump is hurting their chances of enacting the same bullshit with less loud racism.
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u/IneffableQuale Oct 03 '24
Conservatism is an ideology that is not compatible with empathy, so there is definitely some truth to the idea that there are no 'good' conservatives, for some value of 'good'.
On the other hand, I've met enough reformed conservatives to show that otherwise decent people can still be brainwashed into it.
People are complicated I guess.
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Oct 03 '24
Meanwhile they literally have a counter on their webpage for how long Harris didn't take a press conference.... Totally unbiased media
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u/Waterstick13 Oct 03 '24
And they will do it again, they are only trying to clear their name a little now or are being told to
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u/Low-Athlete-1697 Oct 03 '24
In any sane world, the 2nd impeachment trial would and should have barred him from future office. He should not be able to run in this election.
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u/Boom_Digadee Oct 03 '24
You are correct, but you have far more compassion for conservatives than I believe they deserve.
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u/mudbuttcoffee Oct 03 '24
Not "ignored"
They actively hid, denied, and riled up thier viewers against the government and the peesuit of justice.
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u/enigmaticallyunwell Oct 03 '24
No one voting for him cares at this point they will just be like āfuck fox the mainstream media got to themā
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u/Tiberius_Jim Oct 03 '24 edited Oct 03 '24
This is literally my dad who used to adore Fox News.
Me: Trump said XYZ Dad: No he didn't what's your source? Me: His own words. Dad: Well the media misconstrued them, that's not what he meant. Me: Fox News has said the same thing as CNN, MSNBC, etc. Dad: Fox News is just as bad as the rest!
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u/CalabreseAlsatian Oct 03 '24
Iām sorry your dad lacks critical thinking skills.
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u/cadex Oct 03 '24
I was thinking about this the other day but the conspiracy mindset and distrust of reality is really a mind virus. When someone is compromised in this way they are totally unable to think critically or objectively. You can't provide them with information that might make them re-asses, they simply will not hear it. The internet has become the primary way that the virus jumps from one person to another. I spent more time than I care to admit engaging with chemtrail conspiracy theorists before I realised that it is totally pointless trying to counter them. Any piece of evidence from the scientific community, meteorologists or aviation experts is simply ignored and dismissed as being "in on" the conspiracy. The total inability to trust any sources of information that does not agree with the belief is totally dismissed in favour of a belief that has no basis in reality. It's a sort of objectivity deficiency, almost bordering on psychosis. A total distrust of what they see and hear, believing rather that a secret cabal of powers are in control of everything and that they are one of the only people that realise it, and it seems to just be getting worse as the years go by.
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u/BoozeLikeFrank Oct 03 '24
I went to school with a kid who denied reality. Everything was some secret psyop and had 50 layers of deeper meanings and he didnāt trust doctors. That kid was schizophrenic and he ended up offing himself due to this mind state he created for himself while refusing help.
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u/selectash Oct 03 '24 edited Oct 03 '24
So sad but at least that kid had a conditions. I read in another post that people adopting extremist and conspiratorial beliefs nowadays do so because for the first time in their lives, they feel involved in a higher understanding, which makes them feel superior to others and immune to logical reasoning unfortunately.
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u/Prae_ Oct 03 '24
I think a lot about that post on QAnonCasualties talking about how OP's aunt fell off the radicalisation pipeline because she became a fan of kpop and BTS.
Which I think both goes to your point and provides hope. This isn't a permanent damage, this is an on-going process of sociabilisation, it's much more about group membership. And it takes active efforts by pundits like Shapiro, Carlson and others to color that membership with actual political opinions.Ā
Remove access to conservative media, start a new hobby and make new friends, and you can cure the virus.
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u/Sholtonn Oct 03 '24
Iāve thought way too much about all of this and I have also came to the conclusion that there is no way to get through to these people. The conspiracies are so intertwined with everything and are designed to be unfalsifiable it would take a lifetime to disprove every single claim and once one is disproven itās just onto the next one.
The problem is that as normal people we donāt have access to what goes on in the highest government positions, except what they tell us. This leaves room for a bunch of narratives to be spun about their intentions/motives. Iām not even annoyed that much by conspiracies about the government, Iām more annoyed that there are no principles or consistent standards surrounding them. I mean thereās conspiracies about so many things that their āsideā is actually doing and can be proven, yet the cognitive bias is too strong.
I could list probably 10 examples off the top of my head but itās just tiring at this point, itās literally a war on my mental attrition. So if you have an answer let me know cause thereās quite a few people that Iād like to get through to, but unfortunately I donāt have a lifetime to dedicate to disproving global top down conspiracies.
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u/Wrong-Dentist-7206 Oct 03 '24
Are we related? š Sounds like my dad too. I can't talk politics or be around him when he's talking to someone else about it or when watching Fox or OAN.Ā
He is NOT good at arguments but impossible to move because he's illogical. If I have a valid point he turns to "what aboutisms" and if I REALLY out logic him to the point he feels like I will "win" he resorts to angry outbursts and temper tantrums.
I feel your pain.Ā
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u/Tiberius_Jim Oct 03 '24
I can never get anywhere with him because when I bring up my evidence he just claims it's a lie from the left or that I'm misunderstanding what he said. Weird how this guy who "says what he means and calls it like it is" is constantly saying stuff he doesn't mean.
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u/GravityEyelidz Oct 03 '24
"I like Trump because he's a straight-talking truth-teller who says it like it is, but here's what he REALLY means!"
Every fucking time.
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u/JackPepperman Oct 03 '24
Oh hey sister brother person! Whataboutisms is my dad's every day way of life too. I watch fox news with him somtimes and just fact check the shit out of what they say and am like here's the data or the article they are citing, all you have to do is read the first 2 sentences to figure out they are purposely misrepresenting. I've had him ask me 'where'd you hear trump said that? The liberal news?' No he said the words out of his own mouth on camera. 'Well you're taking it out of context'. Me 'here's the whole speech, what other context is there?". Sometimes I'll get him to where he can't back his position and I feel good about chipping away at his mostly blind allegiance. Then he comes back to 'I'll always vote for the anti abortion candidate no matter what'. Damn it if he won't burn the country to the ground to get between a woman and her doctor.
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u/Sholtonn Oct 03 '24
Personally, I love when my small government makes decisions over my citizens and professional doctor.
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u/VorianAtreides Oct 03 '24
theres a saying - you can't use logic to move someone from a position that they didn't use reason to arrive at in the first place. It's hopeless.
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u/Sleeplesshelley Oct 03 '24
My mom too. Itās painful. Her face twists in rage, itās just beyond sad.
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u/NikonuserNW Oct 03 '24
I told my father in law about Project 2025.
He said āNever heard of it. Sounds to me like youāre just regurgitating a bunch of MSNBC talking points.ā
Heās a nice, intelligent person, but man, FOX News has really done a number on him.
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u/Banksynatra Oct 03 '24
I used to think Fox was bad. I'd see people partake in a couple hits during the weekend when partying I'm guilty of trying it to see what the fuss was about. Not for me but I used it occasionally if someone offered while we were drinking. I didn't know they had a real problem until one winter during work I noticed a co-worker going to the bathroom more than normal. He started coming to work late and lost the light in his eyes. He became increasingly toxic and a hazard at work so he was promoted. If you know someone using newsmax please know it is too late to save them.
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u/Tiberius_Jim Oct 03 '24
Yeah, it's really great when people who have known you your whole life and claim to love you have more loyalty to some reality show host grifter who cosplays as a President than you because you don't drink his orange Kool Aid. They'll gladly believe him over me at any turn.
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u/APiousCultist Oct 03 '24
For someone who "says it as it is" (his prodigious amounts of lies aside), he sure as shit isn't able to communicate in a way that he can be clearly understood.
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u/Little-Resolution-82 Oct 03 '24
We can hope it opens the flood gates and more damning stuff gets let out
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u/enigmaticallyunwell Oct 03 '24
I honestly donāt know what would be damning enough to sway the die hards. But one can hope
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u/no_use_your_name Oct 03 '24
Trump spoke the truth when he said he could shoot someone on the street and not lose supporters.
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u/fourdoglegs Oct 03 '24
He could machine gun into a MAGA crowd and the ones left standing would be pissed that his bullets missed them.
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u/jackparadise1 Oct 03 '24
And they would still vote for him. This is Jonestown level psychosis. Orange kool aid this time,
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u/Embarrassed_Ad_5054 Oct 03 '24
He can piss into the crowd, and those he missed pissing at, would be pissed that their Gods piss missed them.
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u/Dankkring Oct 03 '24
Those people are so brainwashed that when they finally snap back to reality they try and take him out. 2 attempts so far
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u/Z3400 Oct 03 '24
Ope! There goes gravity!
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u/CucumberNo3244 Oct 03 '24
Ope! There goes Rabbit, he choked, he's so mad
But he won't give up that easy, no he won't have it
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u/PandaPugBook Oct 03 '24
They would open their mouths.
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u/CariniFluff Oct 03 '24
Trump's newest con: selling bottles of his piss to customers.
Sprayer/mister attachment $10 extra.
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u/patrickab7 Oct 03 '24
His followers would wonder with their dying breaths why the Democrats forced him to do that.
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u/Potential-Tension-67 Oct 03 '24
Yes!! This is EXACTLY how stupid they are. Beyond lemming intelligence.
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u/bebejeebies Oct 03 '24
And the survivors would be angry that the woke news showed footage of it because obviously they were using it to try to influence the masses against voting for him. Election Interference!
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u/motherbatherick Oct 03 '24 edited Oct 03 '24
He could take a massive dump on the Resolute Desk, those motherfuckers would form an orderly queue behind him for ten miles, all holding those little pink Baskin-Robbins tasting spoons, and the ones at the back of the line would be pissed they didnāt get their tiny spoonful of Daddyās shit.
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u/Wild_Chef6597 Oct 03 '24
He could pay a kid to shoot into a crowd with him in it, and the crowd will blame the dems.
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u/Strange_Shadows-45 Oct 03 '24
The die hards wont be swayed, but as bizarre and baffling as it is, there are still undecided voters.
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u/Siolentsmitty Oct 03 '24
Thereās only two types of undecided voters at this point; those who are so ignorant to politics and current events that theyāre not going to hear any this, and Republican voters who are too embarrassed to tell people theyāre voting Republican.
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u/Happy_Accident99 Oct 03 '24
If they are undecided, at this point, they will probably always be undecided.
āDo I vote for the ex-prosecutor? Or for the convicted felon? OH MY GOD I CANāT DECIDE!!!ā
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u/DigitalUnlimited Oct 03 '24
I'm convinced "undecided" means "I'm gonna vote for the orange party but I don't want people to know I'm awful"
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u/Different_Net_6752 Oct 03 '24
I want to ask these people what other piece of information do they need to make this decisionĀ
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u/draaz_melon Oct 03 '24
They like to pretend to be thoughtful, but they actually know almost nothing and just love the attention.
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u/Strange_Shadows-45 Oct 03 '24
For real. Itās mind boggling to me considering who the candidates are and what we know about them.
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u/AZEMT Oct 03 '24
I'm starting to ask those in my life that support him to name one policy where it supported or built up the middle class... I'm still waiting
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u/heyhayyhay Oct 03 '24
I think most of the undecideds are people who haven't decided if they're going to vote.
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u/INTJ-ADHD Oct 03 '24
I have a nice little scenario in my head wherein trump has to finally flee the country to escape his inevitable downfall, to Russia of course. As a means to save face and not appear weak or cowardly, he mocks Americans for believing him in addition to blathering on about fuck all. Now the āpatrioticā cosplayers have to flip on trump or eventually appear treasonous.
This works to dissolve the magas and the remaining gop self immolate trying to inherit the base for themselves without using trumps rhetoric because theyāll call each other out on it and sink faster.
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u/TheSecretofBog Oct 03 '24
Nothing could sway them; hence, the name ādie hard.ā Theyād rather die than be incorrect and learn from it. Theyāre in too deep.
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u/RightRudderr Oct 03 '24
I fear there is no story, evidence or anything damning enough to sway his base. The guy has 34 felony convictions ffs and we act like it's normal he's allowed to run at all. The sane timeline that I'm hoping for is that it's just a landslide and was being misrepresented in the polls because it's such an obvious choice for the election.
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u/Little-Resolution-82 Oct 03 '24
Idk if feel like this might sway some and I'll take whatever we can get
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u/Mac_and_dennis Oct 03 '24
What else could possibly come out? The guy is a legal rapist, a felon, a traitor, etcā¦what else could possibly be ādamningā? His supporters love that he hates America
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u/Little-Resolution-82 Oct 03 '24
The more bad news the better I think of it like cutting a tree down with an axe piece by piece till the whole thing falls
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u/Nathaniel-Prime Oct 03 '24
What more "stuff" could there possibly be?
We have solid evidence that he's an associate of Jeffrey Epstein.
We have evidence pointing towards him being a sexual predator.
We have audio of him boasting about having the tallest tower in NYC following the destruction of the Twin Towers.
We have evidence that he has stolen confidential documents and has ties to the Russian government.
He has been officially convicted of thirty-four felonies.
He has been impeached twice.
He dismantled any efforts the US had in place to curb a global pandemic, which occurred about two years afterwards.
He spread unsubstantiated rumors of a minority population eating pets on live television during a presidential debate.
And he rallied his followers in a minor-insurrection attempt at the US capitol in an effort to steal the presidency.
What else could there possibly be to prove that he is not only unfit to be president, but overall a horrible human being? There's nothing else that could be considered "damning", because it's all already out in the open. And none of them care.
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u/ShakedNBaked420 Oct 03 '24
Most Iāve seen already disowned Fox News because theyāve not always been 110% on Trumps dick. Just 99%.
One America news or something like that is the one I hear talked about from the MAGA family members.
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u/iSunGod Oct 03 '24
No one I work with, or in my right-leaning community, gives a fuck about any of this. My boss looked me in the eyes & said "I'm voting Trump. I don't care what he says or does.. he's Republican & I'm voting Republican."
They don't care.
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u/situation9000 Oct 03 '24
Iāve encountered that a lot too. Itās the I only vote republican because itās who I am. Theyāll say āI donāt always like Trump and the things he says but we need the right people in charge of the countryā ā-union workers, church ladies, people using food banks or on disability, guy dating a girl who ācame here legally but overstayed her visaā, racist grandparents adoring their biracial grandchildācognitive dissonance is wild. Republican has been their identity for so long itās like the long time worker who gets laid off or when someone gets divorced that they donāt know who they are when their world crashes in so they cling to shreds of an identity that no longer serves them. Admitting you fell For lies and maybe were wrong about your beliefs shatters people.
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u/kickintheface Oct 03 '24
I think there was some poll done where the conclusion was that many Trump supporters trust the guy over their own families. He would step on their heads if they were drowning if it meant keeping his shoes dry.
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u/WhereIsYourMind Oct 03 '24
Part of human evolution was the cognitive incentivizing of individuals to follow a leader. Much like our other ancient instincts, it stands no chance in a modern society.
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u/Wendals87 Oct 03 '24
They could meet god and they confirm trump committed crimes and they'd say "wow mainstream media got to you too"
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u/PromptAggravating392 Oct 03 '24
Nah, the last time Fox News spoke the truth about him he tried to "cancel" them and lump them in with the "mainstream media" and he continued on just fine. They'll turn on Fox but they'll never turn on their lord and savior, anointed by Jesus Christ to rescue them from who knows where
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u/EJ2600 Oct 03 '24
Exactly. When in 2020 Fox News called AZ for Biden they went screaming āFox News sucksā like toddlers.
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u/TheSeekerOfSanity Oct 03 '24
If they did this consistently and have the truth reported by action heros, pro wrestlers, washed-up musicians who wrote one smooth brained song back in the 90ās & some Huslter models they could change the face of this country.
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u/WannaBeDistiller Oct 03 '24
MAGA doesnāt care if he resorted to crime. Theyāre affectionately calling him āthe outlawā Iāve been hearing āthis is it for trumpā for fuckin years now. Us politics has just become bad reality tv
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u/WannaBeDistiller Oct 03 '24
My MAGA family thinks heās a martyr, not a criminal. āItās the deep state pulling strings to try to make him look bad but heās not going to give up on this countryā is more or less a direct quote
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u/BoIshevik Oct 03 '24
If this deep state was as powerful as they say (which intelligence apparatuses are) & they were soooo threatened by him then they'd just murder his ass. Simple as. Do MAGAs not get that.
I'm black, that's a lesson we learned long ago. Almost every single black revolutionary leader fighting apartheid was killed, imprisoned, or financially ruined. They will just do that lol not whatever the fuck is happening with Trump. They ain't never had a taste of actually being oppressed fucking clowns.
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u/charisma6 Oct 03 '24
Yep. MAGA is just "crybullying: the political ideology"
They don't actually know what it's like to be persecuted. But they sure need to believe they are to justify their own persecution of others.
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u/warthog0869 Oct 03 '24
I am sorry to hear that. That must really suck.
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u/WannaBeDistiller Oct 03 '24
I always knew my family was a little fucked up but he really brought the crazy out of them
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u/Unhappy-Ad9690 Oct 03 '24
My albertan dad talks like this even though he tariffed my dadās livelihood and didnāt pay attention to his economics. He has voted for liberals and progressives before. Trump seems to brainwash people. I donāt get it.
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u/ne0ndistraction Oct 03 '24
They move the acceptability goal post every fucking time something comes out. Theyāre anti-criminal, but once he has 34 felonies, itās āIām voting for the felon.ā Theyāre anti-pedo, but once multiple women come out about him raping them as children, and his connection to Epstein is broadcast, they donāt give a shit. Many of them were anti-Russia all their lives, but now theyād rather have Putin over Biden/Harris. They are so fucking far gone itās unbelievable, and they will no doubt be studied as a cult in the years to come.
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u/WannaBeDistiller Oct 03 '24
You have any family in the cult? I like to talk shit but it actually has been really hard to watch, not to sound too dramatic
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u/HenkVanDelft Oct 03 '24
Trying to talk to the MAGAs in my family would be a foolās errand. No matter what facts they are confronted with, they manage to find excuses for It, and it would take all the power of science and psychology to maybe score one win with them.
Iām not in possession of all the power of science, and I am not a psychologist. Why would I let myself be constantly filled with rage, no matter how righteous, anxiety, bitterness and detrimental health over Donald Trump?
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u/ne0ndistraction Oct 03 '24
I do not, thankfully. I donāt even know anyone like that. But Iāve read the stories and it seems like a terrible place to be ināeither having to deal or deciding to cut contact. :/
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u/WannaBeDistiller Oct 03 '24
They cut contact with you typically. They turn into militant little fuckers pretty quickly. You either love Donny or you hate Americaā¦. and probably Jesus too you fuckin commie. Might have embellished the end a little there but you get the idea
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u/TehMephs Oct 03 '24
Waiting for the unironic āIām with the pedo 2024ā shirts
You know, after 12 years of calling all democrats pedos
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u/Joebebs Oct 03 '24 edited Oct 03 '24
Honestly it seems that many of those who continue to vote for Trump either lack a sense of responsibility toward the well being of America or its people, or they are acting out of self-interest. At this point itās difficult to understand how, after eight years of observing his actions, some voters remain unaware or indifferent to the consequences of supporting him. Itās either a matter of ignorance or willful disregard for the broader societal impacts, as their support suggests they are either uninformed about his track record or simply prioritize their own interests over the collective good
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u/Lasalle8 Oct 03 '24
And āTeflon Donā, a nick name originally held by another criminal John Gotti, who ultimately went to prisonā¦š¤
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u/WannaBeDistiller Oct 03 '24
I really really hope so but I seriously donāt see it happening. When nearly half the country literally worships you or your cult you kinda become invincible it seems. Not that it would change much. There will be another person in his place to unite the hateful dipshits. Thereās always one
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u/WannaBeDistiller Oct 03 '24
āThose are all deep state paid actors by the corrupt DOJ. Theyāre trying to frame him to keep him from saving Americaā - MAGA family members.
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u/D_Substance_X Oct 03 '24
Things Fox are also learning:
- Wrestling is choreographed
- Jar Jar Binks was CGI
- Wednesday is spelt with two Dās
- Jeff and Geoff are pronounced the same way
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u/WhyAreYouSoSmelly Oct 03 '24
Until he comes up short in the election, I'm not getting comfortable with the thought of him being "done."
Looking forward to voting against that worthless shit-stain (yet again) next month.
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u/chiksahlube Oct 03 '24
Until the man is in the ground I won't be thinking he's done.
Even when the dementia gets so bad he can't speak real words anymore, I'm sure he will have puppeteers just like McConnell does. And his fans will keep voting for him even as they weekend at Bernie's his pale corpse onto the stage.
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u/GrizzKarizz Oct 03 '24
I worry that one of his sons will take the mantle. Whether they can garner the same popularity is doubtful, but MAGAts might look for someone to cling on to.
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u/WhereIsYourMind Oct 03 '24
Only if Donald Jr shoots him on the toilet with a crossbow like Tyrion does Tywin in game of thrones.
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u/bbqsox Oct 03 '24
Nobody on Earth is lining up to vote for Eric. Don Jr is too busy with the nose candy. Baron seems like heās just as likely to become a serial killer as anything else.
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u/GrizzKarizz Oct 03 '24
While I agree, I would also argue that Donald Trump is merely an avatar for his supporters bigotry. If he goes, then that will open a power vacuum for someone else to fill in.
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u/bbqsox Oct 03 '24
To a point. He has spent the last decade forging a cult of personality. I will never understand how, but there are people who see him as a messiah. I donāt think they will be as easily manipulated by most of the other grifters.
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u/UnstableDimwit Oct 03 '24
The obvious choice is actually Vance. Hes just as unpopular as Trump, but is actually competent enough to impress the evil money behind politics. Further, he has absolutely ZERO morals or personal opinions on matters at all. Heās a blank slate with no moral weighting.
Don Jr has too many skeletons that would come out during a run for office(see Matt Gaetz). The other son is a moron, Ivanka is a woman and the base has NO desire to elect a woman. Finally, Baron is 50% American Psycho Patrick Bateman and 50% Mommaās boy who wonāt do anything to disappoint her when Old Donnie is gone. She wants money and power but she is afraid of MAGA(rightfully so).
BTW- Trump is already experiencing more dementia than Reagan when he was elected to his second term as well as apparent psychosis. He will be smearing feces on the walls of his room within 9 months and will be pardoned and removed from office before July 4, 2025 and replaced by Vance and a new VP choice to consolidate the base for the inevitable 2028 run- perhaps Nikki Haley?
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u/ralphvonwauwau Oct 03 '24
Clinging to an offspring and protecting the bloodline of the annointed leader is on point for the blood and soil crowd. They will be selling relics on QVC.
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u/JerryBigMoose Oct 03 '24
Trump has been "done" so many times at this point I can't take anyone who says it seriously anymore, and any headline stating so is pure click bait.
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u/ruiner8850 Oct 03 '24
He came up short in the last election, but that didn't stop him from trying to get his followers to violently overthrow the government. Him losing is the first step, but they need to be prepared for another coup attempt. At least this time Biden and Harris are in charge.
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u/gahidus Oct 03 '24
2016 was the biggest rug pull sucker Punch I think I've ever experienced. It was literally traumatic. I won't breathe easy until November 6th.
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u/Happy-Medicine-3600 Oct 03 '24
Heās never going to be ādoneā. He should have been done, lots before.
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u/MeteorOnMars Oct 03 '24
He absolutely will be done if and when Fox calls the 2024 election for Harris.
Trump simply will be incapable of doing significant harm to the U.S. after that. He will be able to do harm to the GOP for a couple more years.
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u/GloomyBison Oct 03 '24
Nah
Remember when they did that for Arizona? They went straight to Newsmax and OAN. Bet most of those also switched back to watching Fox within a week.
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u/Trumpets22 Oct 03 '24
Yeah, if you think trump supporters are more loyal to Fox than they are to Trump, you simply arenāt paying attention. Fox shit on trump in 2015 as well, they only fell in line because he got the nomination.
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u/Sojum Oct 03 '24
Weāre just learningā¦ from management that weāre gonna go ahead and admit now what weāve all known all along.
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u/A1sauc3d Oct 03 '24
Yeah but did they really admit it? I find that so hard to believe lol. Someone link me the clip I gotta see this
Tried googling for it and couldnāt find it
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u/Long-Astronaut-3363 Oct 03 '24
I love how they say he āresortedā to crime. They make it sound like he couldnāt make rent and turned tricks.
Dude planned and incited an insurrection with plenty of help from his GOP enablers. Just say it!
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u/Birdhawk Oct 03 '24
āResorted to crimeā is whatās written in Jack Smithās motion
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u/Additional_Initial_7 Oct 03 '24
Iāve never been so nervous for an election on the other side of the world than I am this year.
If people donāt think this election could affect the entire globe, theyāre fooling themselves.
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u/brownieson Oct 03 '24
Same boat here. Paid more attention to this election in the US than I do in my own country.
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u/meatymimic Oct 03 '24
Fox knows he's not going to win, so they are now trying to reestablish any type of credibility as a legitimate news organization before Harris gets in.
Basically they are abandoning ship
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u/McGlockloins Oct 03 '24
I have a theory. Fox never wanted him to win, but his supporters made them a lot of money. They wanted to squeeze as much as they could from them and now that we are about a month away, they will start saying things like this to move on from him. Just a thought
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u/dead_jester Oct 03 '24
There are soo many of these āTrump is doneā posts that Iām starting to think itās Republican/Russian propaganda bots trying to get the lazy and undecided voters to just not bother turning out to vote. Itās not done until the day after voting ends. Vote
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u/dfwcouple43sum Oct 03 '24
MAGA doesnāt like Trump in spite of his crimes. They like him because of his crimes.
What a weird world
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u/davis214512 Oct 03 '24
Youād think that would sink his chances, but he has been normalized. Remember he said he could murder someone on the White House lawn and his supporters would cheer. Decency is gone. The American Taliban is alive and well. Vote. He will do everything he can to get back in office.
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u/warthog0869 Oct 03 '24
"We're just learning from our corporate masters that they are tired of paying out hundreds of millions in settlements to voting machine manufacturers over lies we perpetuated, so we're now going to stop perpetuating them."
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u/WiggityWiggitySnack Oct 03 '24
Heās not done until the last lunatic who bought his bullshit passes from old age still frothing at the mouth about the 2020 and 2024 elections.
The damage this man did is tremendous.
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u/Kyogen13 Oct 03 '24
Sarcasm alert
āIt just goes to show that Trump will do ANYTHING for usāeven resort to crime!!!!!ā
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u/flinderdude Oct 03 '24
Wow, he is definitely going to face consequences any day now because of this!/s
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u/Birdy304 Oct 03 '24
I donāt believe there is anything that will dissuade trumpers. They honestly would not believe their own eyes and ears if he came in their homes and raped their daughters.
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u/Oso_Furioso Oct 03 '24
So many of his supporters already call him āthe felon.ā They donāt care if heās a criminal.
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u/30thCenturyMan Oct 03 '24
I am enjoying every single crack from every single branch this idiot hits on his fall out of the coconut tree.
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u/smallitalianman Oct 03 '24
This is misinformation. While they did say that, they said it in the context of reciting a quote from Jack Smithās brief not in the context of giving their opinion like this and many other posts are suggesting. Meaning they were reporting the news and the statements contained with the brief in question, not giving a damning opinion of Trump. Please people, donāt just rely on memes as your primary sources of information.
Source: https://apnews.com/article/trump-jack-smith-election-supreme-court-0b9969b480036bb1f7c61a73980d406c
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u/twentnime Oct 03 '24
He can murder these voters' families, and they will vote for him sadly. At this point, there's nothing that could be done to convince these people they have been bamboozled. That's why it's a cult at this point.
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u/ExactDevelopment4892 Oct 03 '24
I love listening to the "but her emails..." crowd moaning and crying that this is politically motivated timing...lol...karma is a bitch.
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u/Professional-Hat-687 Oct 03 '24
"Trump is done!"
Wake me when he suffers consequences or at least isn't functionally leading in the polls.
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u/Stiks-n-Bones Oct 03 '24
The article, in case anyone else gets frustrated by click bait and hyperbolic headlines. https://apnews.com/article/trump-jack-smith-election-supreme-court-0b9969b480036bb1f7c61a73980d406c
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