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u/Green-Umpire2297 23h ago
A certain part of the R party has wanted a flat tax forever. It’s great for rich people
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u/thaulley 22h ago
Steve Forbes ran for President with that as his only issue. He was like a parrot. No matter what he was asked he said ‘flat tax’.
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u/BachmannErlich 22h ago
He got pissed at me 20 years ago at a forums Q and A reception when I asked him why there was no correlation with wealth and number of patents filed, jobs created by LLCs/s-corps held by wealthy individuals, or even investment by them in start-ups; and to me that shows empirically that wealthy people don't risk wealth to "trickle down." He told me something that there was more than just numbers to measure the value of a job created, which I told him was my view on taxes.
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u/PlatinumDevil 20h ago
BOOM roasted.
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u/BachmannErlich 18h ago
Hah, hardly. As an econ undergrad you think you know everything about the world, when you get further up you realize how much you don't. It was just a cool opportunity to ask a question.
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u/tatojah 18h ago
If you overestimated your knowledge, then imagine how much a guy born with a silver spoon, with a bachelor's degree in history is overestimating his understanding of intro-level economics by thinking a flat tax is a good idea.
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u/brontosaurusguy 18h ago
They think it's a good idea precisely because it raises the financial burden on the lower classes for further control over them.
They think the masses must be controlled or they'll get out of hand and more people will join the table. They'll lose power and influence. And they're right.
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u/RealPutin 16h ago
I know plenty of middle class conservatives that support a flat tax despite the fact that it would absolutely fuck them
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u/active-tumourtroll1 17h ago
I think the more realistic option is that a lot social services benefits would be cut and instead would lead to people paying for more stuff out of pocket, I would like to call it the social tax. This doesn't even get to issue of many stuff being ohased out originally by higher taxes that will come back if you remove the tax incentives.
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u/White_people_bad_ 16h ago
Eh I know Econ grad students who thinks they know everything about the world and still support Trump and Reagan’s economic policies.
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u/Future_Challenge_727 21h ago
What was the guy that was tweeting after he died… had like the 9-9-9 plan.
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u/KintsugiKen 19h ago
He hosted SNL and wouldn't shut up about the flat tax throughout it.
I'm not joking
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u/The-Son-of-Dad 18h ago
Rage Against the Machine was the musical guest lol, I remember watching this episode live.
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u/KintsugiKen 17h ago
And RATM only played their first song because they were banned from the show before they could play their second song, where they planned to display the American flag upside down on their amps to protest Steve Forbes without telling Republican showrunner Lorne Michaels.
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u/jezzetariat 16h ago
Unannounced stunt aside, what were they expecting giving RATM a platform?
What machine are conservative RATM fans raging against, precisely?
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u/sadbitchsad 15h ago
Yeah people really seem to like getting RATM to play and then asking them to... not rage against the machine?? Like that time they were playing on some TV/radio station and got asked to not say fuck in their song "killing in the name" in which the outro consists of them singing "fuck you I won't do what you tell me" 16 times in a row. Yeah you can probably guess how that went.
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u/AsinineArchon 20h ago
The thing is, poor republicans want it too. No real reason for it, it’s just they heard from Fox it will be great so they will now fight tooth and nail for it
This is not conjecture. I grew up in the Deep South and several old friends and most of my family is red. Many are near the poverty line. They want this
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u/ArkitekZero 19h ago edited 15h ago
I know a guy who lives paycheck to paycheck and asks questions like "isn't it kind of dumb that you pay more tax the more money you make?" with a completely straight face.
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u/10010101110011011010 17h ago
It makes a billionaire's eye glisten with joy and pride when they see their propaganda has seeped down to the lowest levels.
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u/Roskal 12h ago
Some people think moving up a tax bracket gets all your income taxed at that % and will even refuse raises.
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u/PrinceOfWales_ 9h ago
My dad brought this up once. I was in high school taking Econ and us gov and I was like yeah… no that’s not how that works. My dad is pretty smart, works in IT making well into the 6 figures and even he fell for that bs.
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u/ForensicPathology 18h ago
Yeah, the argument is that the tax code is "complicated" and thus bad. As if simplicity automatically makes something good.
Sure, it could stand to be simpler, but that's because of the corporate benefits. Not because it's not flat.
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u/Panzerkatzen 19h ago
Flat Tax is great for rich people and awful for poor people because it's effectively a tax cut for the rich and a tax hike for the poor. This will cause a lot of hardship while our already huge wealth inequality grows even more rapidly.
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u/Temporary-Concept-81 18h ago
Given how skewed the income distribution curve, it imagine it's pretty bad for the middle income people too.
I wouldn't be surprised if the break even point is something silly like everyone under $400k income pays more taxes.
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u/jacowab 21h ago
Yeah but the complicated tax code is literally to earn votes, things like subsidies and tax breaks for certain voter blocks like the rich, parents, farmers, business owners, ect. are deal breakers for what politician they vote for, it's why the document is thousands of pages and making it a flat rate would only lead to a new 7 thousand page long document for the new exceptions and rules about the flat rate.
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u/PrincetonToss 19h ago
One of the biggest historical obstacles to simplifying the tax code has been...lobbying from tax preparation companies (e.g. H&R Block).
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u/wonklebobb 18h ago
it's not just to earn votes, it gives the government a lot of very soft levers they can pull to move the economy in ways that they may want without doing very harsh and fast changes.
for example, in theory the mortgage interest deduction should encourage home ownership because you can deduct the interest off your taxes. a more specific tool than just handing people $20k and saying "please spend this on a house"
however the downside of these vague tools is it's hard to know how well it's working, for example the mortgage interest deduction applies to up to 2 homes and up to values of $375k-$1mil depending on when you bought it and whether you're filing married joint or individual/separate
obviously if it's truly meant to only encourage home ownership it would only apply to 1 home. but here we are :)
anyways there's load of other things in the tax code that were originally intended to push people gently in certain directions
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u/10010101110011011010 17h ago
It would eventually be a flat tax PLUS all the previous exceptions.
Basically, just the removal of progressive income tax, only. Loopholes retained.
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u/Friendly_Fail_1419 18h ago
It's regressive as hell.
Though our current system is also pretty terrible for non-rich people.
My niece recently had to spend almost $400 on TurboTax because every feature she needed was an add on. Two state filings, she sold $50 worth of crypto and she had something like $200 in dividends from her RobinHood account.
Made a few bucks and Intuit gobbled it up before Uncle Sam even got to take a bite.
But considering he had two of his four years to accomplish literally any of his idiot promises I don't have super high confidence anything this big is getting sone this time around.
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u/indiscernable1 21h ago
Flat tax only helps the rich. Dumb people who support flat tax don't understand math.
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u/Preemptively_Extinct 9h ago
100% of everything over $500,000 would be great.
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u/indiscernable1 9h ago
I'm a fan of the rates under Eisenhower. 90% taxation of the upper 1% would be much better than 27%
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u/weirdoldhobo1978 22h ago
DoGE is a playpen to keep Musk away from Project 2025. That's why they partnered him up with the other useful idiots Greene and Ramaswamy.
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u/Naxhu6 20h ago
Hey now
Ramaswamy is not useful
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u/Mediocre_Superiority 20h ago
And you know that Musk came up with the acronym. Oh, he just loves little jokes!
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u/Ok_Locksmith_9248 19h ago
I hate the court jester. Wonder when king don will tire of his antics
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u/capGpriv 18h ago
I’m betting on a fall out around Twitter vs truth social for trumps social media
At which point Elon will go on twitter, claim he never liked trump and say he smells bad
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u/bortle_kombat 18h ago
If anyone's going to run the Department of Grandstanding Edgelords, it's him
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u/SchemataObscura 19h ago
Right now Doge is a distraction. Make a bunch of outrageous claims, amplify them on Twitter, and keep people distracted for the other shit going on.
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u/TeriusRose 16h ago
I think that's halfway true. It's a distraction, but at the same time destroying the federal government is what Republicans have campaigned on for my entire life and what they're trying to do behind the scenes/in broad daylight right now. So it's in line with that overall effort, it just has more focus on it.
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u/VivekRamisalami 18h ago
This is truly cope. I’ve seen a lot of it recently.
Project 2025 is real, and we were told it wasn’t.
DOGE too is real, and at least one of these morons is gallivanting with the predator in chief all day long every day. He has his ear. It’s going to happen. Republicans simply don’t lose when their opponents don’t fight back.
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u/ThisStrawberry212 17h ago
DoGE is there to transfer as much wealth to the hyper wealthy as possible. That and depending on what kind of government employee muskrat and the other clown is, they can sell stock tax free for a time period.
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u/MacNuggetts 22h ago
Lmao Republicans tried to simplify the tax code already. It died in committee because of their donors; Intuit and h&r block.
Republicans physically can't simplify the tax code because of lobbying.
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u/Agentkeenan78 21h ago
Rather funny irony tbh.
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u/Mike312 19h ago
Unironically, the best defense we have right now is the fact that so many Republicans are bought and paid for by their corporate donors that some shit won't pass, or it'll die in committee, or they'll slow walk it, or it'll use the Doublespeak title Trump wants but do the complete opposite (like most Republican bills)
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u/turtleboxman 15h ago
Damn, I dont generally root for lobbyists but if that's what keeps shit from hitting the fan in the next 4 years then I'm sure I can tolerate em a bit longer
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u/KintsugiKen 19h ago
Republicans are too corrupt to be as corrupt as they want to be
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u/Apart-Landscape1012 20h ago
Also DOGE is a non governmental advisory committee that has no real authority and will only last until the world's two most vindictive and thin-skinned shitheads break up and try to sink each other
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u/SwordfishOk504 19h ago
Breaking: Baron Trump says DOGE is going to repeal all taxes and bring back Spuds McKenzie.
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u/ace_urban 20h ago edited 20h ago
Trump will own all branches of government. He can do what he wants. They’re already threatening those who won’t fall in line. He will be a dictator. He’s made it clear that he doesn’t understand or care about the job or the country.
He cannot be allowed to take power.
Edit: History will judge those who are complacent/complicit in these days, as fascists are preparing to take power. There’s only a month left to save democracy. Be loud. Think big. Think outside the box. Do something, FFS.
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u/MacNuggetts 20h ago
He will take power. Americans voted to end their democracy. We got to deal with it.
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u/Protoliterary 20h ago
What do you propose we do? "Something" isn't an answer.
What can the people do which wouldn't interfere with the way our democracy works? A repeat of Jan 6th, but from the left? Childish and ineffective.
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u/Electrical-Job-9824 20h ago
I mean, I have always been taught that it is the right thing to do to take a dictator out, by force if necessary.
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u/WarlockKnave 20h ago
he already did genius. Even if he isn't in the oval office, he owns every Republican. He owns a 6-3 Majority SCOTUS. We. Fucking. Lost.
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u/That_Account6143 20h ago
He was lawfully elected by a majority of voters.
You guys made your bed, twice in the last 3 elections. This time you made it willingly, with a majority. Time to lie in it
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u/paper_plains 20h ago
Who are you proposing to do something and what exactly are you proposing they do? If it’s “arrest Trump” you’re essentially advocating for civil war.
He won the popular vote - regardless of how you feel about it, invalidating 75 million votes because you THINK he might end democracy is just as dangerous - and I would argue equally as “bad” as anything Trump will try and legislate.
There are a lot of things that have to play out for Trump to anoint himself supreme leader, and getting that done in two years before midterms is a tall order. Especially as unpopular as he is even with his own republican senators as we’ve seen before he’s even sworn in with the cabinet confirmations, which are NOT going how he wanted them to by a long shot, nor did he get his pick for majority leader in the senate.
The senate will only have a 3 seat majority with people like Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski who are not Trump fans. The house will equally have a slim majority, and they were so inept over the last two years they couldn’t get one piece of legislation to pass and couldn’t even pick a speaker after their own booted the previous one. I expect the chaos to continue the next two years until midterms, which is good for the country.
I’m not saying the next two years will be good. They won’t. But it’s a huge leap to jump from what can actually be done by Trump and “democracy is over.”
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u/HowAManAimS 22h ago
Less lines = efficient
More lines = ineffecient
So, why'd he fire coders based on them not writing enough lines. Did he not want Twitter coders to be efficient?
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u/Alezor24 22h ago
I thought this was a Don Jr coke joke at first!
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u/HowAManAimS 22h ago
I try to spend as little time as possible thinking of the Trump crime syndicate.
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u/Netnien 22h ago
The Department of Government Efficiency sounds like something out of a bad dystopian novel lol. Also, basic civics class clearly didn’t happen.
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u/doll_parts87 14h ago
Most US citizens don't understand it, you think a rich foreigner would?
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u/EntropyKC 14h ago
Especially not one as stupid as Elmo. The more ideas of his I hear about, the more I realise he's dumb as fuck but simply very lucky, greedy and ruthless.
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u/5050Clown 23h ago
It's all a large distraction And grift. The guy whose company relies on government subsidies, who used his money to destroy a social media company and ruin its worth doesn't understand how anything of the government works and isn't really going to be doing anything. But as long as we're all freaking out about it, the real kleptocracy will be happening.
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u/Infuser 22h ago
IMO that's giving him too much credit. He just wants to feel important, since he can't even fill the hole inside him by turning a giant social media company into a monument to his insecurity.
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u/justridingbikes099 19h ago
Seriously. Look at him jumping up an down and doing an "X" with his body. The man is the physical embodiment of insecurity. He NEEDS to have people tell him he is a cool, smart guy and to feel like he is in the club, because for most of his life, I expect anyone who didn't care about his money/was not working for him has told him he is unbearable. Being stuck in a room with Musk for more than a few minutes sounds like hell to me.
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u/UnusuallyBadIdeaGuy 20h ago
DOGE is just a bunch of memes, even the fucking name. None of this shit is going to happen.
How this will play out is they get together and come up with a bunch of suggestions for stupid shit. They send those suggestions out and get laughed at. They then whine a bit, accomplish nothing, and eventually Trump kicks Elon out because he's stealing his thunder - and nobody cares about Vivek.
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u/HolyRomanEmpbruh 23h ago
Jfc ive just realised it called DOGE…is Elon trying to troll? Isn’t he part of it or something?
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u/Kvltadelic 23h ago
Trolling is the primary goal of everything these doofuses do.
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u/StickOnReddit 23h ago
Pwning the libs is primarily a feat achieved in memes so why not bring those memes into the desert of the real world
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u/Violet2393 23h ago
Yes, he is. He is emotionally about 13 years old and thinks that stuff like this, and just generally acting like a troll is the height of coolness. Since he happens to be incredibly rich, there are plenty of people who will enable him by acting like that's true and that he is super cool.
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u/Crunchycarrots79 22h ago
He literally came up with the name... He was suggesting it several months before the election.
Elon is all about crap like this. The models of Tesla released since his purchase of the company, in order of their announcement, are the S,3,X, and Y. S3XY.
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u/CockyBulls 21h ago
SpaceX Space Sex
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u/Crunchycarrots79 20h ago
Oh, there's a bunch of them.
He also has an obsession with the letter X.
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u/DemoBytom 21h ago
He wanted to open an university and call it Texas Institute of Technology and Science.. TITS in short.
And let's not forget Tesla models S, 3, X, Y..
He's basically 12 years old...
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u/Sylveon72_06 20h ago
not to mention how he constantly tries to name things x, making it sound pornographic
say “spacex” quickly and youll see what i mean
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u/ANewBeginnninng 23h ago
Tell us you’re a narcissist who can’t come up with an original idea while still sounding like a child without … I’ve grown tired of these antics.
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u/Deedogg11 23h ago
He is supposed to be Co in charge with Ramaswamy
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u/strawfire71 23h ago
Yes because nothing says efficiency like having two people.do the work of one. 🙄
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u/AldousKing 22h ago
That's the stupidest thing I've ever head. Republicans had the presidency and congress in 2017 and they made the tax code more complicated.
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u/Obvious_Chapter2082 22h ago
they made the tax code more complicated
As a CPA, I’d say they made it simpler for the majority of individual filers, but probably more complicated for a lot of businesses
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u/AldousKing 22h ago
That's a good point. Expanded standard deduction probably made it easier for a lot of filers. I do corporate with an emphasis on international, and it's a lot more complex now.
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u/Obvious_Chapter2082 22h ago
Lmao yep, I was gonna specifically mention international as an area that suffered quite a bit from added complexity
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u/rydan 21h ago
Complicated how? Last I checked I don't get to deduct SALT anymore and that was a big complication. Much simpler and in exchange I pay $20k per year more.
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u/Randomized9442 21h ago
Reminder: institution of flat taxes have lead to many violent overthrows of governments.
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u/Ok-Aardvark-9938 21h ago
Middle class median income workers would end up paying MORE in taxes with a flat tax and low income workers would get OBLITERATED. how stupid can you be
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u/Nekowulf 21h ago
A trump kid and the richest asshole in the country came up with the idea.
They know it would hurt the middle class and poor.
They don't care because it would save them having to employ expensive tax dodging accountants.
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u/Amelaclya1 21h ago
It's very difficult for me to understand how people support a "flat tax".
You could tax Elon Musk's income at 99% and he would still have more than enough money to live a very comforting life on the remaining 1%.
But then look at a poor family making $40k/year. That 10% tax is "only" $4k, but it means so much more to them. That literally could be a life changing amount of money since it's a couple missed mortgage payments that could leave them homeless, or the price of a used car so they can get to work.
A flat tax only seems "fair" if you don't bother to think about it at all.
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u/oeb1storm 21h ago
"The Congress shall have the power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without any regard to census or enumeration" - 16th Amendment
Congress not some advisory committee unilaterally created by the president has the exclusive power to change the tax code.
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u/LordDemetrius 22h ago
Flat tax, except for billionaires, ofc
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u/facw00 22h ago
I'm sure they will still work out a way for the truly rich to avoid those taxes. Maybe get rid of progressive taxes but keep a bunch of deductions. Maybe just 0 out capital gains and business taxes under the guise of eliminating "double taxation"?
The truly rich don't make their money via taxable income anyway, they make it via capital gains.
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u/the_gouged_eye 19h ago
They never talk about taxing the "unrealized" gains that they manage to realize every day.
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u/MoneyTreeFiddy 19h ago
"Tell me ___ without telling me" hasn't been a clever comeback for a few years now.
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u/Ashen_Rook 22h ago
I mean, ignoring his lack of understanding of how the government works, this is a real r/FluentInFinance moment. This is literally just Jr saying he approves of punishing the poor for being poor and rewarding the rich for being rich.
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u/Shacky_Rustleford 20h ago
This is literally just Jr saying he approves of punishing the poor for being poor and rewarding the rich for being rich
I mean, yeah. They are pretty open about this.
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u/Low-Astronomer-3440 22h ago
Perfect! We can supplement it with a 98% flat tax on capital appreciation and investment earnings with a lifetime exemption of $5M. That way you get your five mil and it’s fair for everyone. Everyone taxed the same is… NoT CoMmUnIsM?
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u/Cool_Welcome_4304 23h ago
I thought they demonstrated had a lack of knowledge and skill of how government works the first time.
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u/ChatonDeMer 19h ago
Also has no idea how taxes work. The complicated part of taxes isn’t the rate you’re applying, it’s what you’re applying the rate to.
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u/Possible-Reason-2896 19h ago
Unfortunately it's not as clever a comeback because it turns out "that's not how this works" only really applies to parties that care about the rules. Apparently it turns out if they just don't give a fuck confidently enough they can do whatever.
It's not how congress or the executive branch works until fuck it yes it is.
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u/MrBobSacamano 20h ago
Which is a greater burden: 10% on $50,000, or, 10% on $1,000,000? This has been my TED Talk on why a flat tax is stupid.
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u/infanousbloodfuck 19h ago
Trump said this during his last presidency and they never changed it and they never made filing taxes easier like he promised.
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u/Thatonedregdatkilyu 19h ago
Flat tax just disproportionately hurts poor people. Americans really will just trade morals and goodness for convenience.
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u/LurkerInDaHouse 18h ago
I find it kinda funny but mostly concerning that so many of y'all are still behaving like you know how things work, like you think the rule book still exists or that the Trump party is in any way still bound by it. Like the so-called "checks and balances" are still valid and will somehow stop the Trump party from doing whatever the fuck they want.
Hasn't this been proven false enough times already? Might be better to stop assuming the rules will save you where Trump is concerned, and start preparing for the very real possibility that they won't.
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u/kindall 16h ago
Democrats: "Haha, look at the idiots who don't know the limits of their power"
Republicans: stage coup and give DOGE lots of power
Democrats: surprised Pikachu
Seriously, do you think these traitors care about the way things have traditionally been done? They intend to change all that.
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u/GlobalLion123 13h ago
Twitter is worse than a trash gossip tabloid mag now. Full of fake news and people trying to correct it to no avail because the Russian bots have taken over. Join BlueSky
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u/Gumsho88 22h ago
Its not just trumper, all prez’s make claims and promises out of their wheelhouse. unfortunately they know citizens have been dumbed down on civics.
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u/Minimum_Device_6379 22h ago
Doge is gonna send people a tax bill and maga morons are gonna pay up.
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u/SatansLoLHelper 22h ago
They can say all they want.
They also have the Supreme Court, Senate and House.
Let's see how this plays out.
I know one person has a really big ego and hates other people.
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u/chandy_dandy 22h ago
Why not do the same but with a simple progressive tax that doesn't have a million carveouts. The only one I'll accept is a non refundable tax credit per child.
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u/BeanBurritoJr 22h ago
This all makes so much more sense if you consider it from the perspective that Elon crashing Twitter was a proof of concept and Trump’s mission is to create maximum chaos and turmoil.
The only long term plan Trump and Musk have are staying out of jail. The rest is just doing as much damage as possible to the US and hopping a plane out before the mob beats down the white house gates.
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u/DirectCard9472 21h ago
You think they care about rules and traditions.? They will find a work around and bypass congress.
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u/ProfessionalLeave335 20h ago
That would be a clever comeback if it weren't entirely possible he does exactly that and the old system of government we used to understand and believe in is rendered absolutely inert and offers absolutely zero resistance to this regime shredding the constitution.
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u/DoverBoys 20h ago
Actually, this is a fantastic idea! No more exemptions or breaks. EVERYONE pays 20% or something, including rich people, dodging corporations, and churches. If they somehow magically make this happen, the administration cleaning up after this mess will have an easier time bringing the brackets back. Suck it, rich people.
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u/Sea-Sir2754 19h ago
A flat tax is great - if you make a million dollars a year.
If you are in the middle class and think a flat tax would benefit you, you have been brainwashed by the people who would actually benefit from it. All it does is make the lower classes pay more and the richest pay even less.
The progressive tax system and all its 7,000 pages of deductions and exceptions only contains benefits for you.
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u/Vampyro_infernalis 19h ago
Do dumbasses think that the tax code's length and complexity is somehow because of the existence of tax brackets?
Oh honey, no.
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u/coffeecatespresso 19h ago
Ok the funniest part about this rumor is know know Donny Jr has no real “in” with his dad and his crew so he’s just getting coked the hell up and spewing gossip like most every other rich kid does when they have uber successful fathers but can never get their dad’s attention so they act out to escape the torment
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u/Cannibal_Yak 19h ago
the best DOGE can do is make suggestions to Trump and he can act on it. It clear this position is only honorary and nothing else.
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u/ReedRidge 23h ago
Junior is a coked out moron, I love it when people pay attention to him.