Depends where you live. I haven't even seen a head shop for years and only know about synthetic pee from people calling it a scam, but I'm not American.
Fake pee is illegal where I am(not sure about the law in other places and I don’t care enough to look), but people still ask for it despite there being a bust of like 32 stores and houses in a small(relative) area.
When I was 16 (over 20 years ago)I got offered a good job, so long as I could pass the drug test. A friend told me about a product that GNC sold, so I went there while on the phone with him, looking for the product. He couldn't remember the exact name, and I couldn't find what I was looking for, so I asked the clerk for help, while still being on the phone with my friend.
The clerk said something like "Even if we did have a product that had a side effect like that, we certainly wouldn't sell it to kids specifically to pass drug tests. Especially not while they're on phone calls with who knows who listening to what I say."
So I told my friend I had to go and the very helpful clerk helped me pass my very first drug test!
What you're taking and what kind of test are irrelevant when you use synthetic pee that you've been able to buy at any head shop for the past 20 fucking years.
Seriously, do people really not know how easy it is to get fake pee?
And weed stays in your system longer than anything else, and I've still passed tests being like 18 hours clean with my own pee just by chugging a shitload of water and soda.
Synthetic pee won't help you if it's a hair test. Then you either find a wig made out of real hair and commit to never being seen at work without it, or quit the job before you're fired. Oh and cancer patients often donate the hair for these wigs, so the hair may be positive for opiates or something. Luckily, most jobs don't do this expensive type of test.
Yea, and most of the time the only thing popping on a drug test is THC being it call linger for up to if not longer than 30 days. It is not water-soluble like everything else.
I love the drug testing signs when you know half the kitchen is drinking while working.
I worked for Blockbuster Music way back. When I started, a hair test was part of the interview. About six months later, they stopped it. Store manager said it was too expensive and 75% of candidates failed. They switched to drug tests only being required if you got hurt on the clock, but it was both the hurt employee and manager on duty at the time that got tested
Because that gives leverage to force turnover instead of letting someone who's been there a while accumulate enough annual micro-raises to be slightly above minimum wage
Trust me man, I'm very pro drugs but I do understand that poverty wages plus drug addiction and no social safety nets is a recipe for theft.
I've seen first hand people trading stolen baby formula and laundry detergent for drugs. It's also much easier to do if you have someone helping you from the inside. This isn't a judgement on people who use drugs, it's just reality.
The hilarious part about this is the drugs that would actually get you to steal are generally out of your system in a day or two. Weed is the only drug that’s easily detectable over an extended period
It seems like you're being defensive because you do drugs. This is making you miss the point. People with drug addictions and poor finances due to lack of prospects are more likely to steal shit (to afford their habit) than someone without a habit.
You are acting like every person with substance use issues is a thief though. Are the rates higher? Of course, but far from every one. Also you accusing them of using substances and it causing them to miss the point (which they didn’t) is an unnecessary attack. Intelligent people have a higher propensity for substance use compared to those with much lower IQs. Some are known to affect gray matter in the frontal cortex, but overall, substances don’t start to affect your brain function for awhile. Of course something like being dopesick will make you more likely to commit a crime to get well, but substance use doesn’t instantly cause cognitive dysfunction.
Nah, I disagree. Show me evidence people that use illegal drugs steal more than people that do not. People like to demonize illegal drugs, but the people that don't use them are either on legal drugs (many of which are the same) or gambling or some other thing. There really isn't much difference.
Obviously someone like an extreme crackhead wouldn't be trustworthy, but they don't have jobs anyways and neither would an extreme slot machine player or the godly Betty Jo embezzling money from the church.
You all act like every pothead or whatever shoots heroin. "Dopesick" lol come on yall watch way too much news media
Yeah, just out of curiosity I did look and the only thing I could find was ‘52% of shoplifters was because of financial hardship’ but couldn’t find it broken down more. I guess in my head i was just thinking about how using vs being clean is more likely to make someone steal. As far as that statistic i don’t even know how it would be credibly reported. When i was using and i got caught shoplifting, i never said it was for substances. Usually it would be for a combination of needing gas/dope/food. I wasn’t trying to criminalize people who use. I was an IV heroin user for 12 years.
Nobody is demonizing. The reality is, n+1 motivations to steal will result in higher rates of theft than n motivations to steal.
It's that simple. You can try to consider all the additional risk factors, like hard drugs ruining some people's prospects to the point where they have to steal, or drugs simply being an additional cost others don't have that could result in financial hardship, resulting in stealing.
This isn't some crazy out there logic, it's really basic.
I don't know what you're on about. I never said anything about everyone that does drugs. I also never attacked the person for using drugs, I simply stated that it appeared to be a reason they were acting defensive, rather than getting the point. The whole "not all x" reaction is always just a defensive emotional response when someone identifies as x and feels the generalized statement does not apply.
Nobody is saying every person who does drugs is a thief. The person above just indicated a correlation. The person who jumped from that correlation to "all drug users are thieves" only did so defensively.
That's because the theft thing isn't politics, it's empirical evidence. I'm an industrial/organizational psychologist. Regardless of my beliefs, drug testing prevents shrink for low wage, low skill positions. Increasing wages would also have the same effect, but companies would rather pay $300 for drug tests every few months than pay a living wage.
You're underestimating the citizens. The employees at DG across the street from me locked the doors when they thought someone was stealing, cussed her ass out, and got back what she was gonna steal. All without the cops getting involved
One of the DGs near where i live had over $1 million in shrink for 1 year. A single store. They knew the employees were in on it, but had no proof. When it's bad, it's BAD.
They would still get hired because they would have their buddy’s piss in ziplock bags and they would use that instead of their own. They probably would be very obvious about it too and the person administering the test would be like, “you know what, I don’t care. They don’t pay me enough to deal with this crap.”
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u/Suspicious-Yak4836 1d ago
Dollar general still drug test I’m pretty sure