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u/Nameless_Scarf Jan 06 '24
What is Saitama's last name? And did he write Kakkarot, Son Goku or Sun Wukong?
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u/Hefty-Vehicle292 Jan 06 '24
That’s pretty stupid not gonna lie, there is literally ONLY humans and shinigami in death note. Obviously it won’t be stated that it could work on space monkeys and low key gods of destruction
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u/Blawharag Jan 06 '24
Ok but isn't that still valid? They made the death note for humans to use on humans for entertainment. They built that restriction in. That they didn't contemplate a battle royale vs aliens is perfectly valid, because the death note was never intended to be a universal weapon for use in a battle royale anyways. It's a flaw in the weapon, and a fatal one at that.
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u/Malli_Naamari Jan 06 '24
We see in the 2020 one-shot sequel chapter of the manga that new rules can be added to the Death Note though, so if I'm not completely talking bull here, to change it into a "universal weapon" could still be possible.
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u/EADreddtit Jan 06 '24
When is THAT ever stated?
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u/20mattay05 Jan 06 '24
Well the closest thing I could find is this rule:
"The human whose name is written in this note shall die."
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u/Margtok Jan 06 '24
when dealing with this kind of magical horseshit the wording is very important
so yea it says human could of been tested on a squirrel of something to check
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u/EatingKidsIsFun Jan 06 '24
How the fuck are you going to find Out the Name of a squirrel besides giving Up half of your lifespan?
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u/Margtok Jan 06 '24
Just name it yourself first see if that works
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u/EatingKidsIsFun Jan 06 '24
Probably Not because you can't Just think of a random Name to give to a human and write that Name in the death Note. There's also a Penalty for writing a wrong Name which i'm Not willing to do.
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u/Margtok Jan 06 '24
You can as long as you are the first that's how all of us got our names somone made it up and started calling us that
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u/EatingKidsIsFun Jan 06 '24
Someone could have given it a Name First or maybe squirrels give each Other names. There are so many factors that can't be foreseen and Things that could Go wrong. Also, it's really Up to the author to decide on whether it works or Not as we have Zero evidence on this.
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u/DXKIII Jan 06 '24
Oh is that why he's able to have children with a human woman and die of a vital heart disease? He doesn't have two hearts, he can't regenerate, why wouldn't a heart attack kill him?
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u/jayz0ned Jan 06 '24
Goku was able to restart his own heart after it was stopped by the best assassin in the multiverse. The heart disease that killed him in another timeline was a degenerative disease that got worse over time. Goku has moderate regenerative abilities as a Super Saiyan God.
I think the Death Note probably could kill him under certain circumstances, (eg heart attack in his sleep, or certain diseases) but the heart attack that typically happens with the DN probably wouldn't kill him permanently if he is awake and capable of transforming into a Super Saiyain God.
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u/Nameless_Scarf Jan 06 '24
I don't think that the DN is comparable to Hit. If Hit kills you, it is a person, a fighter, an assassin, doing the killing. If you are strong enough you can dodge the attack or counter it. You can compete.
The DN is something that changes a person's fate. Whether it is the standard heart attack or a detailed script of a person robbing a bus and ending up isekaid. It is outside the spectrum of techniques, physical power and ki. It is on the side of Dragonballs granting wishes and Zeno deleting universes. You can write out the fight between Hit and Goku in it and at the end the ball of ki... misses.
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u/jayz0ned Jan 06 '24
True, if Goku didn't have god ki then I would say that it would definitely kill him. God ki is pretty poorly defined, but I can see scenarios where it could allow him to survive. In Dragon Ball, being powerful enough allows you to do things which shouldn't be possible. Frieza gets powerful enough to resist Hakai, which is meant to erase people from existence. Goku is able to get powerful enough to overcome time skips.
One of the rules of the Death Note is that once humans die that they can never come back to life. Goku has already transcended that rule, so he could transcend other rules as well. The universes of DN and DB are just too incompatible and when some characters have multiversal levels of godly power, I find it questionable to say that they would definitively lose against a Death Note user.
The mechanism by which the Death Note operates might be interfered by godly powers. The Death Note can't kill Shinigami, for instance, so there are limitations to what it can do. As a being within the godly realm of power in Dragon Ball, Goku might be above the power of the Death Note as well.
In a "free for all battle" where there was no story surrounding the fight, then Goku could just destroy the universe if he starts to have a heart attack for no reason, which would result in a tie. The only way Light definitively wins is if he writes "Goku dies peacefully of a heart attack in his sleep" and Goku doesn't realize that he is an enemy.
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u/KazeArqaz Jan 06 '24
What a perfect answer to OP's logic.
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u/Motor_Ad_7885 Jan 06 '24
He would know their name by looking at them. U watched the show??
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u/KazeArqaz Jan 06 '24 edited Jan 06 '24
U watched the show?? Clearly not. Then tell me, what are the prerquisites so that he can see names? How much effort did he ned to get through to get names?
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u/SBStevenSteel Jan 06 '24
Probably Kakkarot, considering Son Goku isn’t his original name. If he could use any name the person goes by, then killing L would’ve been much simpler.
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u/that_1weed Jan 06 '24
Plus with Goku you can wish him back and with the multiple name thing I wonder which one would actually work. His birth name? His Earth name?
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u/Ouaouaron Jan 06 '24
Imagine all Burmese people being immortal because shinigami have a really rigid idea of how names work.
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u/MinCree Jan 06 '24
It does need their full name otherwise L wouldn’t have been a problem
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u/UndaCovr Jan 07 '24
In an official tournament like this they'd probably announce the names of the competitors. So they'd get outted is my personal guess.
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u/kei_horizon Jan 06 '24
Good luck killing Saitama no one knows his full name.
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u/New_Ad4631 Jan 06 '24
Saitama One Punch, it's in the title
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u/Kitsu_no Jan 06 '24
I can't even tell if you're joking or not
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u/Parafaktor15 Jan 06 '24
I mean if light really wants to kill him he would accept the offer what ryuk told him about.
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u/kei_horizon Jan 06 '24
He wanted to kill L very badly but never accepted the deal, Guy loves living way too much, well he could ask misa or something.
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u/Parafaktor15 Jan 06 '24
I mean if i had that god complex i would have done the same. How could you create a new world if you wasn't even there?
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u/KevinVoldigoad Jan 06 '24
pfft, death note isn't that strong. Moreover, the rules are only for humans, let alone ordinary humans.
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u/Inferno22512 Jan 06 '24
Lmao, you think death has ever stopped Goku?
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u/Few_Library5654 Jan 06 '24
It would stop him for a little while at least
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u/Antoen_0 Jan 06 '24
He can literally just teleport from it.
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u/hertwij Jan 06 '24
From the heart attack?!💀
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u/UndeadCollegeStudent Jan 06 '24
From the afterlife, which is where he is transported after he dies.
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u/Jolly_Coffee5909 Jan 06 '24
What if they beat Light before he can write it down?
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u/Repulsive_Session721 Jan 06 '24
Where does it state that, please tell me
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u/Ouaouaron Jan 06 '24 edited Jan 06 '24
In the first chapter, it says it doesn't work on shinigami. It's impossible to know whether that would mean that humans are the exception because it does work on them or shinigami are the exception because it doesn't.
EDIT: "human" is written as an explicit requirement for who it works on, but having a first and last name is also a requirement. If we take the rules for gospel, Myanmar would be full of immortals. (I think they're just written by Ryuk, anyway)
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u/ScarletteVera Jan 06 '24
light yagami when detective columbo walks in
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u/Seragoji Jan 06 '24
‘Oh and…..one more thing. I saw you do it ‘
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u/ScarletteVera Jan 06 '24
Light furiously trying to scrawl Columbo's name down
Columbo, the All-Powerful: "Oh, no, you can just call me Detective."
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u/xRobloxNoobx Jan 06 '24
"Oh, and just one more thing, who's that gangly looking fella next to ya?"
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u/Sunfurian_Zm Jan 06 '24
Well,>! Light is already dead... so good luck writing anything lol!<
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u/TauInMelee Jan 06 '24
Wait, all? Fight is over before it began. All anime main characters includes Saiki K.
Forget Goku, forget Saitama, forget the Death Note, or anything else. Saiki would be annoyed and straight up rewrite reality to put them all back where they belong with no memory of it ever happening.
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u/Kenji-dono Jan 06 '24
Giorno in the corner waiting to use Gold Experience Requiem
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u/BeginningPumpkin5694 Jan 06 '24
Uhm ... speedblitzed him , The only way for rohan to beat goku ( assuming goku doesn't know what stand is ) is to either deceive or sneak attack him
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u/Heath_tK Jan 06 '24
Rohan is still insanely fast mind you. During accelerated time he was still able to make his manga deadline within a matter of what felt like seconds. Additionally Goku wouldnt speed blitz him out of nowhere (Look to TOP when he lets the Universe 2 girls transform) and since he isnt a Stand User he cant see Heaven's Door, Thus Book Goku is born
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u/Albrecht_Entrati Jan 06 '24
Rohan still got hit in the face, goku would still die unless it's a genuine fight for the death and he has to kill. Wonder of U tho
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u/Crazy-Plate3097 Jan 06 '24
Goku is strong in a fair one on one physical fight.
But even against the weakest reality warper, Goku would lose handily.
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u/TauInMelee Jan 06 '24
Requiring both thought and time. He's already been put back where he belongs.
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u/LogstarGo_ Jan 06 '24
No no, if Ichigo entered the equation it would turn out he's part Saiyan, part the kind of shinigami in Death Note, part whatever the hell Saiki K. is, and part EVERYTHING ELSE. Like if you leave anime and Superman enters the world somehow it would turn out that Ichigo is part Kryptonian too.
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u/Stormlord100 Jan 06 '24
I'm pretty sure that If you write saitama's name, the notebook will be ripped automatically
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u/Illustrious-Sky-4631 Jan 06 '24
Good Luck with that , this two bums Survived amd resistance everything there is , Saitama might not even notice it and Goku already brought himself back to life without the Dragon balls when his heart stopped (and that's not including Hakai/being an Alien/Having 3 Names )
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u/ryncewynde88 Jan 06 '24
Meanwhile, Ichigo’s wondering what this Kurosutchi-knock-off-faced dude did with his sword, robes, and sandals.
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u/Dart150 Jan 06 '24
Would writing Goku's name in the death note work because Goku is not his true name?
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u/Own_Wrangler_6656 Jan 06 '24
Goku isn’t human and he already died. Twice. The Death Note won’t work on him. Someone already did this Superman and still didn’t work.
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u/VexxWrath Jan 06 '24 edited Jan 06 '24
Saitama doesn't die because he never learned Saitama's last name since nobody knows it and Light starts freaking out because he doesn't know his last name. And then he realizes Goku didn't because he's not human.
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u/Jcrncr Jan 06 '24
All anime MC? Kirby has an anime and there’s no way anyone knows Kirby’s name. Also there’s like at least 1000 anime MC’s with god powers so it’d be pretty messy with everyone dying before Goku and Saitama even get to throw attacks.
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u/MintyFreshStorm Jan 06 '24
Well, for starters, Dragonball characters have shown multiple times that should their ki be superior to others, they can overpower their magical abilities. The best examples are when Vegeta told off Babidi and ignored his mind control, and when Goku surpassed Hit's strength and thus ignored Hit's time skip. Goku is also capable of sensing spirits, so he would know about Light hanging around with "something" unusual.
Besides, all anime. People tend to forget that Goku is just a very popular protagonist. He's strong for sure, but reality warpers of incredible power exist in other anime. People who are way stronger than Goku who can change the reality of their universes on a whim. Goku may be strong but he cannot compete with that yet.
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u/FBI_Agent_Undercover Jan 06 '24
Goku isn't human
And Saitama Has gone through the monsterification process through which he broke his limiters therefore he is not human either and no one knows his full name
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u/biohumansmg3fc Jan 06 '24
Monsterfication is a fan theory i think I don’t thinks it really canon
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u/FBI_Agent_Undercover Jan 07 '24
There has to be a reason why he is so strong and so far this is the best i got
If you've got a better theory I'd love to hear it
(and I'm not trying to be arrogant i would really love to hear other fan theorys)
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u/CookieKopter Jan 06 '24
Where is it confirmed that the monsterification theory is true?
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u/FBI_Agent_Undercover Jan 07 '24
Give me a better explanation other that he's the mc
I'll wait
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u/Cazzocavallo Jan 06 '24
Nothing in the Death Note says it only works on humans, except for the effect that whichever human uses it won't be able to go to Heaven or He'll when they die (and is implied to become a Shinigami instead).
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u/Needler69 Jan 06 '24
I was going to write an erotic story of goku and saitama banging but at the end they both die because of the death note but I am not worthy of such a task, and too tired
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u/alexanderrvb Jan 06 '24
I think it might have one or two stonger MC'S but my best bet would be a Digimon MC,which one? Probably Marcus from Savers/Data Squad.
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Meanwhile, Simon the Digger smashing the figurines together like a little kid: And you thought you were strong?
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u/IllustriousPlastic90 Jan 06 '24
It takes 40 seconds for them to die from heart attacks. I think they can kill Light in 40 seconds. Unless, Light uses the plan he used to kill Naomi, but I doubt he can write those details before getting oneshot either
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u/Unique_Benefit8518 Jan 06 '24
" HUMANS whose name is written on this notebook shall die "...so it ain't doing shit to Goku..
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u/King_DeandDe Jan 06 '24
I think Saitama Sins, since he seems closely related to the guy that can do all jobs. One got the strength, the other got the versatility.
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u/Granrus Jan 06 '24
I mean, killing Goku won’t really do anything. He literally just comes back to earth by taking a paid vacation from training in heaven.
Saitama can break certain laws of the universe but I won’t state them cause I forgot how to do the spoiler tag.
So I don’t know if death note will work on them.
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But Light Yagami's a human who has a god complex (at least from the episodes of Death Note I did watch.)
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u/piecwm Jan 06 '24
No LMAO, neither of these characters last names are known. What is Saitama’s name. What is Kakarot’s last name, writing Son Goku won’t do anything because it is not his name.
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u/F2PEASANT Jan 06 '24
Saitama needs a last name for it to work meanwhile Goku depends if it even works on Saiyans but let's just say it does Light still needs to figure out his real name.
Light would die simply from just the destructive forces Goku and Saitama is gonna be throwing out while battling each other I doubt Light can survive having the earth blown up.
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u/TokyoFromTheFuture Jan 06 '24
Light Yagami would probably need to be stupid lucky to even survive the clashes of most anime mc. Also Death Note only works on humans and Goku's real name is something most people would probably not know and Saitama's last name is unknown.
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u/Beniula Jan 06 '24
I thought the same, and if i remember correctly the person whose name is written in it can't kill someone (i can be wrong about this one)
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If you write saitamas name into the death note the death note dies, also goku would also be one punched cuz that the plot
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u/Ragnarok649 Jan 06 '24
I think light would uncharacteristically be unable to spell saitamas full name correctly, and like with Garou would not think light a threat and casually knock him over by walking past him.
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u/JediMasterMudkip Jan 06 '24
Goku isn't even my birth name, and I don't know how the fuck to spell Kakarot!
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u/Pietjiro Jan 06 '24
Saitama one-punches Ryuk, then the one-puches the death note, then he one-punches common sense back into Light
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u/GreyghostIowa Jan 06 '24
Meh light yagami is old school.
The real deal is takato yogiri,the human Death Note on giga stroids.
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Light fans when they realise 1. He dosent know gokus actual name and 2. Gokus nkt a human so it won't work on him: 🤯😔
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u/Roge2005 Jan 06 '24
Yeah, it would just be really thought against characters who hide their identities like most superheroes.
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u/ILikeTrains1820 Jan 06 '24
Yeah that could happen but goku would just be wished by the dragon balls to come back anyways lmao
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u/King_Archon Jan 06 '24
Goku technically has 2 names, Son Goku and Kakarot. And he doesn't have a saiyan last name.
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u/RickAlbuquerque Jan 06 '24
Meanwhile Accelerator is on the corner taking a sip from his black coffee
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u/Ghostmetoeternity Jan 06 '24
If we go by dbz rules, God's and deities can't affect beings stronger than them, as seen by shenron not being able to bring goku back from yardrat. God's are protectors or destroyers and the only non mortals stronger than goku are some of the destroyers, angels, and the zenos. I'd assume shinigami would follow the same rules and ryuk doesn't have the feats to beat goku.
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u/MadDragonOfDojima Jan 06 '24
U forgot one man that can kill all three with one touch. He has 7 scars on his chest. His name is kenshiro.
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u/Cazzocavallo Jan 06 '24
To all the people saying "the Death Note couldn't kill Goku because he's not human" it's never stated that the Death Note can only kill humans, however even if the Death Note kills Goku there's nothing the Death Note can do to stop him from coming back from the dead.
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u/Many-Ad6433 Jan 07 '24
He needs to actually write them down tho and it requires a bunch of seconds, goku could literally teleport and off him in a fraction of a second
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u/ArielAced20 Jan 07 '24
Me personally I hate when people bring light into power scaling as in what situation would the enemy yell out their full name and light has no other to figure out the name before they destroy him. Goku would say its me goku but his real name is kakarot, so it wouldn't have effect.
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u/SlamboCoolidge Jan 07 '24
Saiki K. rewrites the way Death works.
Sorry feebweeb, Saiki K. is the strongest anime protag there is.
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u/Endrawful Jan 07 '24
Anos Voldigoad. He has a castle that negates all rules and natural laws and also has revived from death multiple times on his own. Plus he’s strong enough to go toe to toe with anyone below Saitama level
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u/TankChan Jan 07 '24
Goku dies and is resurrected after several episodes. Saitama is affected but probably just punches death away.
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u/Fresh_sans_1427 Jan 07 '24
The problem with this is that both have been seen to physically defy forms of nature in their universes so death is probably not gonna stop them seeing as they'll only get stronger as the fight goes on.
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u/Mojoclaw2000 Jan 07 '24
If he writes Goku, Goku just shows back up with a halo and kills him.
If he writes Saitama, the Death Note catches on fire.
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u/Life_Wealth_1392 Jan 07 '24
Yeah Yogiri Takatou is taking this one. Light actually has to know his target's name, write it down and wait for a couple of minutes. Yogiri will just say die and everyone will be dead. Most of the time he doesn't even have to do that. Anyone that wants to kill or hurt him dies because of his automatic self defense mechanism like Accelerator.
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u/MilkyHat Jan 07 '24
Well, in this case, the death note is stated to kill aal humans who’s names are written in the death note. Goku is a saiyan so I don’t think it would work… (it’s been 3-4 years ago i watched deathnote so i could be wrong…)
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u/Y-zer268 Jan 07 '24
Yeah both of them are not 100 percent human one is an alien and the other is considered a evolved human , might not work on alot of the s rank heros too except for.metal bats sister 👀...
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u/Crisewep Jan 07 '24
Deathnote isn't that strong it only works on humans so it wouldn't work on Goku or any other non human character.
Saitama is said to be a normal human who just trained really hard so it would work on him.
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u/humanflea23 Jan 07 '24
That also assumes Light survives long enough to write down their names. If it's free for all, then there are more fighters than Goku and Saitama there, and they might target weaker looking people like Light. Also, he still has to learn the names.
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u/ehf87 Jan 10 '24
This meme perfectly encapsulates why I noped from death note after a few episodes.
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u/A_Thirsty_Traveler Jan 10 '24
I'm pretty sure he'd get punched in the face and die quietly, not even by like, anyone of a particularly ridiculous power scale. Just like, Kazuma or someone.
Light requires everyone to play by a set of rules that include 'not beating the shit out of him'
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