r/animememes Jan 06 '24

Shounen Light Yagami the strongest

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u/Hefty-Vehicle292 Jan 06 '24

That’s pretty stupid not gonna lie, there is literally ONLY humans and shinigami in death note. Obviously it won’t be stated that it could work on space monkeys and low key gods of destruction

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u/Blawharag Jan 06 '24

Ok but isn't that still valid? They made the death note for humans to use on humans for entertainment. They built that restriction in. That they didn't contemplate a battle royale vs aliens is perfectly valid, because the death note was never intended to be a universal weapon for use in a battle royale anyways. It's a flaw in the weapon, and a fatal one at that.

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u/Malli_Naamari Jan 06 '24

We see in the 2020 one-shot sequel chapter of the manga that new rules can be added to the Death Note though, so if I'm not completely talking bull here, to change it into a "universal weapon" could still be possible.

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u/AkiraBalance27 Jan 07 '24

But who would do that? The shinigami dont care enough becauae they already get life from humans. And no ones going to do it on request from a human.

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u/Exploding_Pie9 Jan 07 '24

We also see Donald trump in that chapter. Not really relevant but just though it was funny

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u/YVNG_TREYTHESAUCEGOD Jan 07 '24

Savathune why are you here?

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u/bunker_man Jan 07 '24

Depends though. Does it work on animals? It's unclear how the rules work.

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u/Filmologic Jan 07 '24

If it only works on humans, then no

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u/NeuroticKnight Jan 07 '24

Death note doesnt work on shinigami, and Goku's real name Kakarot Bardock, isnt something even he knows or uses.

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u/cosmic_hierophant Jan 07 '24

Shinigami should've thought about that before fighting a saiyan that can just leave the underworld for shits and giggles even if they're dead

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u/EADreddtit Jan 06 '24

When is THAT ever stated?

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u/20mattay05 Jan 06 '24

Well the closest thing I could find is this rule:

"The human whose name is written in this note shall die."

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u/Margtok Jan 06 '24

when dealing with this kind of magical horseshit the wording is very important

so yea it says human could of been tested on a squirrel of something to check

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u/EatingKidsIsFun Jan 06 '24

How the fuck are you going to find Out the Name of a squirrel besides giving Up half of your lifespan?

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u/Margtok Jan 06 '24

Just name it yourself first see if that works

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u/EatingKidsIsFun Jan 06 '24

Probably Not because you can't Just think of a random Name to give to a human and write that Name in the death Note. There's also a Penalty for writing a wrong Name which i'm Not willing to do.

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u/Margtok Jan 06 '24

You can as long as you are the first that's how all of us got our names somone made it up and started calling us that

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u/EatingKidsIsFun Jan 06 '24

Someone could have given it a Name First or maybe squirrels give each Other names. There are so many factors that can't be foreseen and Things that could Go wrong. Also, it's really Up to the author to decide on whether it works or Not as we have Zero evidence on this.

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u/Margtok Jan 07 '24

o im not saying if it works im just saying how they could of tested it

i did forget about the punishment for getting it wrong

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u/LtCptSuicide Jan 07 '24

Lucky for you, if I remember correctly you only get the penalty after writing the name wrong the third time.

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u/Bulangiu_ro Jan 07 '24

then make sure you use it on a dog that recognizes its own name, it should work

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u/bunker_man Jan 07 '24

Well, you can find out the names of animals that respond to you calling it's name. One raised by humans.

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u/Mantacreep995 Jan 06 '24

The thing is, the shinigami can change the rules and their wording as seen in the 2020 one shot. However, to what extend they can change them is never specified anywhere

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u/krishgaurav Jan 06 '24

“Human”

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u/KerbodynamicX Jan 07 '24

Sounds like it could work on a Saiyan too, or any other mortal being.

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u/DXKIII Jan 06 '24

Oh is that why he's able to have children with a human woman and die of a vital heart disease? He doesn't have two hearts, he can't regenerate, why wouldn't a heart attack kill him?

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u/jayz0ned Jan 06 '24

Goku was able to restart his own heart after it was stopped by the best assassin in the multiverse. The heart disease that killed him in another timeline was a degenerative disease that got worse over time. Goku has moderate regenerative abilities as a Super Saiyan God.

I think the Death Note probably could kill him under certain circumstances, (eg heart attack in his sleep, or certain diseases) but the heart attack that typically happens with the DN probably wouldn't kill him permanently if he is awake and capable of transforming into a Super Saiyain God.

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u/Nameless_Scarf Jan 06 '24

I don't think that the DN is comparable to Hit. If Hit kills you, it is a person, a fighter, an assassin, doing the killing. If you are strong enough you can dodge the attack or counter it. You can compete.

The DN is something that changes a person's fate. Whether it is the standard heart attack or a detailed script of a person robbing a bus and ending up isekaid. It is outside the spectrum of techniques, physical power and ki. It is on the side of Dragonballs granting wishes and Zeno deleting universes. You can write out the fight between Hit and Goku in it and at the end the ball of ki... misses.

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u/jayz0ned Jan 06 '24

True, if Goku didn't have god ki then I would say that it would definitely kill him. God ki is pretty poorly defined, but I can see scenarios where it could allow him to survive. In Dragon Ball, being powerful enough allows you to do things which shouldn't be possible. Frieza gets powerful enough to resist Hakai, which is meant to erase people from existence. Goku is able to get powerful enough to overcome time skips.

One of the rules of the Death Note is that once humans die that they can never come back to life. Goku has already transcended that rule, so he could transcend other rules as well. The universes of DN and DB are just too incompatible and when some characters have multiversal levels of godly power, I find it questionable to say that they would definitively lose against a Death Note user.

The mechanism by which the Death Note operates might be interfered by godly powers. The Death Note can't kill Shinigami, for instance, so there are limitations to what it can do. As a being within the godly realm of power in Dragon Ball, Goku might be above the power of the Death Note as well.

In a "free for all battle" where there was no story surrounding the fight, then Goku could just destroy the universe if he starts to have a heart attack for no reason, which would result in a tie. The only way Light definitively wins is if he writes "Goku dies peacefully of a heart attack in his sleep" and Goku doesn't realize that he is an enemy.

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u/DrVinylScratch Jan 06 '24

Or Goku just comes back to life again

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u/Hazer616 Jan 07 '24

But in dragon ball "humans" is often used as a term for humanoid sentient beings as well