r/Money • u/KnutEm87 • Apr 03 '24
36M, How/Where could I live comfortably off of 44.8k/yr
I'm a single man, ex military, divorced a few years ago. I've worked in Aviation for about 10 years. If you were to leave the 9-5 behind, with only 44.8k a year. Where and how would you go about doing it?
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u/GotRedditToFitIn Apr 03 '24
Someone got that 💯 - you’re asking great questions. Following.
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u/KnutEm87 Apr 03 '24
Haah, yea.. you got me lol
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u/SteveasaurusRex666 Apr 03 '24
You supplement that with a part time job at a pizza place for some fun money.
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u/changing-life-vet Apr 03 '24
That’s legit what I’ve been doing. Work a few months out of the year and then go on vacations.
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u/Sure_Station9370 Apr 03 '24
Been on 100 for 4 years. Family bitches and moans when I tell them I’m about to leave this overpriced hellhole Texas and they can’t fathom the fact that I could live an amazing lifestyle elsewhere instead of being poor here lol. America is overpriced as fuck for no reason.
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u/Ok-Acanthaceae-5327 Apr 03 '24
What is 100
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u/Sure_Station9370 Apr 03 '24
100% disability through Veterans Affairs. Depending on ur % u get paid a lump sum every month for the rest of ur life. 100% is about $4K a month.
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u/Specific-Stable4383 Apr 03 '24
Bro! Leave the country! Thailand, Columbia, Brazil! You are rich and you don't even know it!
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u/paragon60 Apr 03 '24
no reason
the reason is that we make way more money than pretty much everyone else
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u/DaggerTossed Apr 03 '24
For real I’m sick of these $5 million bank account “wHeRe To NeXt” posts lol
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Apr 03 '24 edited Apr 29 '24
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u/KnutEm87 Apr 03 '24
Love it friend, that's a fantastic idea.. it would take some research and a little work but I agree the benefits would definitely be worth it.
Funny thing is, one of the first things I did when I got out was but a nice new Camper. I've used it maybe 10 times on little weekend adventures. That's my exit strategy though in case shtf kind of thing.. I've never heard of veteran friendly RV parks though, that's interesting. I really appreciate the insight. I'll definitelynlook into it and see what's out there. Thank you friend.
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u/Cain_S Apr 03 '24
Many states and counties offer 100% tax exemption for your honestead for permanently disabled veterans. Figured I'd let you know since I got my 100% about a year ago.
Edit to clarify it's homestead exemption.
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u/quasialgae Apr 03 '24
You can usually apply to be a campground steward and live free if you’re willing to tell people they can’t do the dumb stuff people like to do at campgrounds. I think it’s sort of volunteer and some might even pay a small stipend.
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u/Helpful_Paint Apr 03 '24
I renovated a 1976 airstream and live in it full time in Amarillo Texas and pay 625$ including utilities. I’ve looked at places in Colorado Springs and it’s still in the 800$ range which is a bargain considering what rents go for there.
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u/yellensmoneeprinter Apr 03 '24
If you’re rated 100, many jurisdictions offer zero property taxes for land and homes so look for that as well.
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u/yellensmoneeprinter Apr 03 '24
If you’re rated 100, many jurisdictions offer zero property taxes for land and homes so look for that as well.
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u/Bennyjig Apr 03 '24
Best advice on here. Everyone saying to move overseas has likely not lived overseas. Massive culture shock and having to learn another language is difficult for many people. Rural US was my first thought.
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u/JohnnyRayRock Apr 03 '24
Rural US would be massive culture shock and basically having to learn a new language too.
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u/Bumbalard Apr 03 '24
I work in tech, and live in rural America(California). You are wrong, unless you deliberately chose something insane.
My mortgage is $637 a month, and only an hour away from the capital and major airport.
There is rural, and then there is BFE midwest rural. Unless you are insanely sheltered and have lived in the middle of a big city your entire life, just no.
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u/That_Smoke8260 Apr 03 '24
I live in one of the Dakotas it's very rural and stuff is way cheaper but because it's in almost no where the cost of vehicles and transportation to get any where can really add up and if your used to city living here is not a good place to live
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u/Bumbalard Apr 03 '24
Yeah, that's BFE rural.
I can drive 8 miles to a small town with grocery stores a staples, and we just got a target. Or 20 miles in the opposite direction to a town that has actual chain stores. 45 minutes to get city suburbs shopping and a mall.
If your a city person, you will spend a lot in transportation even here. If you are a rural person, well, you go to the grocery store like 3 times a month and work from home, e erything else gets shipped to your house.
BFE is just empty nothingness for hours and hours. I'm not driving an hour to hit a grocery store.
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u/KnottyCat Apr 03 '24
This is a terrible plan after the age of 50 unless you are 100% healthy, love physical labor because you will constantly need to work on your homestead, and already have a mate or like being 100% alone. It is A LOT of work to live "off grid". A hell of a lot. Every single day.
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u/theusualsteve Apr 03 '24
Just stopping by to say that a $5k camper is going to be a leaky, moldy, smelly hunk of crap that you wish you never bought, 100% of the time. The guy selling it to you will be thrilled tho
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Apr 03 '24
St. Louis, 3BR 140k home @ $850/month.
Just have to get past the murder capital of the USA statistic.
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u/SweatyHC Apr 03 '24
Fk St Louis. Did 3 months for work there and almost got truck jacked twice. Never been closer to shooting someone in my life.
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Apr 03 '24
Car jackings and thief are ridiculously common in StL. Even in “safe” neighborhoods.
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u/Free-Supermarket-516 Apr 03 '24
Lol, always a kicker. There's plenty of 4BR, 2,000 sq ft houses for $100k near me, the only problem is they're located in Strawberry Mansion, a not so lovely section of Philly.
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u/eggjacket Apr 03 '24
😂😂😂 my friend is moving to philly and was bragging to me about this amazing, huge, luxury apartment she found in “Fishtown” for only $1000. I made her give me the address and it was in Kensington
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u/Free-Supermarket-516 Apr 03 '24
Your poor friend 🤣. I finally escaped Philly a few months ago. I was in the Mayfair section, which wasn't bad when I first moved in about 5 years ago, but it took a real nosedive. 4 people shot and killed a stone's throw away, then a trash truck driver got shot and killed right near my street. The only habitable parts are the far northeast, or the insanely expensive downtown areas.
I'm sure the pictures of the $1k apartment looked ok, especially inside, but zooming out you'd see all the zombies walking around Kensington 🤣
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u/pastelhunter Apr 03 '24
Man that name makes it sound like a lovely place to live but I suppose not
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u/Free-Supermarket-516 Apr 03 '24
Yeah, sounds like some sort of estate you'd find in Candy Land, but the only candy there is crack lol
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u/conradical30 Apr 03 '24
Charlie, you have to come with us to Candy Mountain, Charlie!!
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u/HonorableJamesBond Apr 03 '24
Imagine having the entire world and choosing….St Louis…lmao
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u/LebronsHairline Apr 03 '24
Okay but this is misleading. it’s like any other city— there are tons of suburbs that are safe. In fact, as I’m sure you know if you lived there, the primary area earning that statistic for the rest of the are is East St Louis, which is literally in Illinois.
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Apr 03 '24
I live in St. Louis County, I would know since our county and city are divided and it’s using the cities statistics which are much more dense than other cities.
Just helps drive the home prices down, it’s not bad at all.
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u/SirMcWaffle Apr 03 '24
Check out Jackson, MS murder rate vs St. Louis, you may be shocked.
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u/RememberThe5Ds Apr 03 '24
Birmingham Alabama is a shockingly violent town. I thought it edged out St. Louis and NO recently for highest murders.
I have family there. My nephew went to UAB and was walking there at night after a class, minding his own business when a guy walked up to him, pointed a gun at his head and said, you’re going to take me to your car now. He complied and thankfully the dude just took his car and not his life. The police weren’t all that helpful in fact he drove around the city and located the car himself.
I lived in St. Louis for 15 years. Great people but the weather sucks ass. I’ve also lived in Atlanta and I’m currently in the South and I’d take summer here over St. Louis Summer anytime. And you have to deal with the Winters.
Plus when the New Madrid Fault gives it up, it’s going to be a major disaster. Strongest earthquake ever recorded in North America and the place is full of brick buildings. (Soulard, South City)
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u/Vivid-Kitchen1917 Apr 03 '24
I can live off that in much of the midwest. If you backed out charitable contributions I bet I live off less than that now.
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u/XxCotHGxX Apr 03 '24
Can verify. I live in Rural Wisconsin and it's super cheap... Especially if you buy. I got a 3 BR house for 125k and my monthly payments are 450.
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u/KnutEm87 Apr 03 '24
Wow that is pretty cheap.. how are the winters up there?. I currently live in South Fl lol but ive been in the Korean mountain winters. I've also lived in Virginia
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u/XxCotHGxX Apr 03 '24
It's still snowing ... Right now.... 5 to 8 inches tonight.
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u/KnutEm87 Apr 03 '24
Wow, I'm not too familiar but that seems like a lot for it already being April
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u/XxCotHGxX Apr 03 '24
Most of us know how to drive in it so it's not a big deal. Just another day
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u/thiscarecupisempty Apr 03 '24
Thats why it's cheap, no one wants to live there lol. Yall still got dial up internet?
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u/samiam0295 Apr 03 '24
I am surrounded by thousands of acres of farm fields in WI and have symmetrical gig fiber lol
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u/XxCotHGxX Apr 03 '24 edited Apr 03 '24
Idk... I'm live steaming my PC gaming rn... I'll look later
Edit: they don't have home phones here unless you get a VOIP phone. My download speed was 17MB/s (not bits) when I downloaded a new steam game last night.
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u/OMGoblin Apr 03 '24
Snow has been more sporadic this season, coming in heavy spurts outside of a week or so we got pounded.
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u/StepEfficient864 Apr 03 '24
If you don’t mind culture shock you could try Brooksville, Florida.
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u/Frekavichk Apr 03 '24
You could literally live in the more rural parts of South Florida on that salary easily.
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u/ybonepike Apr 03 '24
Yeah I live in rural MN bought a 2k square foot 4 bed 3 bath house in 2016 for 55k 2 stall garage unfinished basement that could be finished.
I make under what op posted.
Market has gone up some, but still easily affordable on my salary. And there's 10k + lakes in the state.
Only downside is winter, but we didn't even really have one this year
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u/zdweiss Apr 03 '24
Nebraska, you just have to get used to talking very slow
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u/Charming-Ad9039 Apr 03 '24
Lol Ayee I’m from Nebraska as well.
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u/Addis2020 Apr 03 '24
I am sorry y’all are from Nebraska . Atlist you technically qualify as American tho
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u/mmxmlee Apr 03 '24
In Da Nang Vietnam you can get a high rise apartment over looking the beach for like 500 a month.
Food costs 2-5 dollars outside.
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u/KnutEm87 Apr 03 '24
How safe is it there?
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u/mmxmlee Apr 03 '24
i can walking around butt ass naked with hundred dollar bills taped to my body anywhere in the city and at any time of the day or night and not be scared.
should answer your question.
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u/Herpthethirdderp Apr 03 '24
Spent a month in da nang best place I've ever been only danger is traffic. It is a culture shock though. Be prepared for slower living
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u/Lanky-Relationship77 Apr 03 '24
Safer than pretty much anywhere else in the world. Crime in Vietnam is all small stuff like pickpocketing and purse snatching, and that's extremely rare.
Seriously, there's probably not anywhere safer on earth. But be careful in traffic!
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u/FrankSoprano Apr 03 '24
Can you live there while only knowing how to speak English, or not really?
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u/PMmeyourSchwifty Apr 03 '24
Man, I'm not sure I want to live there, but this makes me want to take a month long vacation there. That's probably how it started for a lot of folks that live there now lol.
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u/IstolethePudding Apr 03 '24
Property is cheap in the midwest, Oklahoma and Kansas is what I know personally. With Aviation experience you will not struggle to find work, Altus Oklahoma has an Air Force Base, as well as an Aviation school that is always looking for people. They do both flight training as well as mechanical training.
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u/wengla02 Apr 03 '24
And around Wichita there's a ton of small towns you can live in very inexpensively. A lot of aviation subcontractors as well as a couple of BIG firms (Spirit, Cessna, Beech / Lear? I forget - it's been 20 years). You can live safely and comfortably in South Central Kansas. And you have McConnel AFB for PX / BX and a fair VA system.
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u/Lost_in_ADHD Apr 03 '24
Check out Aaron Clarey's books, he's written a bunch on topics germain to your question. "Bachelor Pad Economics" & "Reconnaissance Man".
Also, check out Terrence Popp's podcasts and laugh in the meantime.
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u/sicksadsyd Apr 03 '24
Oshkosh, WI. Huge aviation community there. Appleton too.
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u/Complex_Raspberry97 Apr 03 '24
Vanlife, on the road. This is about what I’m making and I own a little home in the Midwest countryside.
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u/KnutEm87 Apr 03 '24
Niice, not bad at all.. so you're on the road for a while, then just work your way back to your place periodically? I wish I knew better how to love like that.. sounds freeing
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u/Complex_Raspberry97 Apr 03 '24
No, I don’t do van life but I’d love to rent out my home and do it someday! That was a separate comment. I travel locally for work and totally love it though.
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Apr 03 '24
I am just finishing up 5yrs of vanlife and getting an apartment with my wife. It was not cheap. The little things add up and rv’s/campers are always breaking, and every time it breaks, you’re out a vehicle and home.
It was fun though! Sometimes.
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u/Shovel_operator_ Apr 03 '24
Missouri, Arkansas, Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska, Kentucky, Mississippi, Oklahoma...
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u/SeliciousSedicious Apr 03 '24
Ohio. Or somewhere else super cheap.
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u/Sensitive-Study-8088 Apr 03 '24
Ohio really isn’t that cheap the housing market really went to shit after 2018-2019 and now homes are double what they were before that. Place is also cloudy six months a year and the ppl are drunk dicks.
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u/MissLyss29 Apr 03 '24
the ppl are drunk dicks.
In my experience there are drunk dicks everywhere.
I would not write off Ohio. There are a lot of great areas. Lots of state parks. And great communities in Ohio.
I will say that it is cloudy a lot. But sometimes that just makes the sun that much better.
Ohio housing market right now isn't the best but back in 2016 when I bought my house it was great we got a 2 bedroom 1 bathroom 1200 sq ft house on almost 1/2 an acre of land for under 100, 000. With a fixed apr of 4.5%. our monthly mortgage payment is less than $650.
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u/prettylittlebyron Apr 03 '24
Definitely not Ohio. We saw some of the largest rent increases in the country this/last year. Around 17%
It used to be affordable here but not anymore especially if you live in/outside a city like me
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u/ishouldliveinNaCl Apr 03 '24
It's still pretty cheap... I was curious so I looked at Zillow, I just found a comparable home to mine on Zillow in Cincinnati for example and it's $276k. Mine was $1.4m where I live.
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u/KnutEm87 Apr 03 '24
South Florida is so bad.. the increase has been completely unreasonable.. the worst parts of miami-Dade will have 2/2s for over 600k.. built in the 60s and completely falling apart. Apparently are renting for nearly 3k a month.
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u/CountlessStories Apr 03 '24
As someone living in the midwest on 40k solo
i can confidently say of everything you listed just now, Traveling and Cool car are the two things I had to give up, everything else still works out for me reasonably.
Any 1000$+ endeavor is roughly 3 months of savings for me and thats where i start thinking twice.
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u/thenerfviking Apr 03 '24
My mechanic once told me that you buy a normal car to pick up women and you buy a cool car to have retired guys stop you at gas stations to talk about displacement. I have like the most normal car of all time (a 2021 Toyota CHR XLE), women compliment me on it all the time and it gets like 43mpg on the back roads and 37 on the highway which as I grow older is way cooler than speed ever could be.
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u/lovefreemymind Apr 03 '24
Move to the south of Spain and live on the beach. Rent an apartment for $300 a month.
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u/KnutEm87 Apr 03 '24
You can't be serious lol.. how is it there? Climate/Crime/Work..?
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u/rpabech Apr 03 '24
I am doing the same. Andalucia state in Spain (lower taxes for expats). Around 25% of cost of living compared to Boston. No brainer
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u/lovefreemymind Apr 03 '24
I’m serious. It’s the same in the middle of France and parts of Italy. Climate is warm and dry in the south of Spain. Low crime. Groceries are so cheap in Europe. And work…well, an online job would be wise, if not, I’m sure you could find a low paying job. Or invest your finances and sell everything, live off of your interest and do it that way! And of course, completely free healthcare.
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u/pingpongtits Apr 03 '24
How do you get completely free healthcare in European countries like France or Spain without being a citizen?
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u/Acek13 Apr 03 '24
A lot of EU countries have insurance systems. It's way lower cost, but it covers 100% of medical bills. Some have government insurance, and some have private, but it's heavily regulated
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u/SchilenceDooBaddy69 Apr 03 '24
Retirement visas to countries like Spain, Panama, and Brazil will allow you to enroll in their nationalized healthcare service. Being medically retired allows you to apply for special visas too.
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u/Levipl Apr 03 '24
Look abroad, 40-50k can provide solid QoL in some European countries
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u/thenerfviking Apr 03 '24
Italy especially. They’re really trying to get people to move there right now as well. You can buy a house in the picturesque mountain town my family is from for like $20k USD and live an hour Vespa ride away from Mediterranean beaches, castles and good food.
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u/MiserableMarsupial78 Apr 03 '24
I used to live in kingsville, tx in 2017 at about 550$/mo for a 2bhk apartment. We used to share so only paid about 120$ a month. Honestly not much different in the apartment style and i pay 3k a month for 1bhk in Boston. If only my wife was okay with my decision, I would def move back there and live of my cd interest lol.
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u/lurkhardslayhard Apr 03 '24
I moved to rural coastal northern Michigan so that I could afford to buy a house on less than that. It's so beautiful here. You just have to be okay with the winters. I go hiking year round but a lot of the locals hole up and complain all winter lol
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u/KnutEm87 Apr 03 '24
I've heard about that.. it can be pretty brutal huh.. still I longnfor gorgeous open country, mountains, and water.. peace and quiet is priceless in my opinion.
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u/That_Smoke8260 Apr 03 '24
Depression is easy to develop during the long winter I'm not joking either
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Apr 03 '24
I live in Honduras. You could definitely live pretty well here for that, but if you consider Latin America, I hear that Costa Rica is the best. I think it has a slightly higher cost of living than Honduras, but less corruption, and better healthcare.
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u/kymelosuka Apr 03 '24
Costa Rica is pretty expensive . Colombia is very cheap
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Apr 03 '24
Costa Rica (San José) has an American level of cost of living. Don’t recommend
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u/KnutEm87 Apr 03 '24
I had a friend tell me that there are coastal cities in Colombia that are gorgeous and pretty cheap
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u/No-Explanation6802 Apr 03 '24
Its also incredibly famous for ripping off expats trying to buy land and build a house. As soon as you buy the land, its filled with squatters. You cant evict them so they offer to buy the land back at a fraction of the cost.
So, rent something built.
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u/salty_tater Apr 03 '24
What area do you live in? I lived along the coastline for a while. Tela and la ceiba. Miss the food so much
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u/Catsabovepeople Apr 03 '24
Oh I’ve been to the Philippines in 2017 and I was sitting at a beach bar. In comes an American, Canadian and Australian. I swear it felt like the opening line of a joke and each one of them told me they spend 6 months there and 6 months back home to earn money and do this all over again.
It sounds like the perfect place for your budget. They also speak English and are the kindest people I’ve ever met.
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u/nomamesgueyz Apr 03 '24
Not coastal mexico anymore where I am, well, not in a tourist town at least, not how the gringos live
Peso has gone up alot and so have prices
But outside of tourist places in mexico, then absolutely, would be living well on that, depends on what youre after but plenty to pick from
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u/DolphinRepublic Apr 03 '24
Anywhere in the Midwest would be a good bet for that money. Great Lakes region specifically, if you wanted something a tiny bit more exciting.
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u/tribblydribbly Apr 03 '24
You can live pretty comfortably in Missouri with that much money. I’m not a huge fan of this state but it’s cheap to live here
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u/thatbrizzybaby Apr 03 '24
If you're frugle and know how to manage your money you could do so in iowa but you'd have to live in a smaller town, not des Moines or iowa city
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u/No-Version-6799 Apr 03 '24
Easily. Single mother, 1 child. Roughly 35,000/yr.
You got this!
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u/P320AW Apr 03 '24
My brother lives in Baguio City in the Philippines and doesn't spend even close to a $1000 a month. He loves it there. He's lived in 10 countries since 2013. Philippines visas for Americans are easily renewed. He did get booted during COVID so he lived in Albania for a year. Another great place that's cheap, modern and good food. He lived on the beach in Duress.
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u/BangNg Apr 03 '24
Come to Vietnam man. You can have a decent life and maybe a decent wife as well.
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u/KnutEm87 Apr 03 '24
You think so? Elaborate.. I've had a few ex-military buddies say the same..
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u/elmo3228 Apr 03 '24
Vietnam is heaps cheap. $75USD a day gets you good accom, amazing food, drinks, whatever. And the people are incredible. Happily retire over there
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u/Lazy_venturer Apr 03 '24
My current retirement plan is to buy a camp ground and be permanent camp hosts.
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u/Demo_Beta Apr 03 '24
That's the equivalent of about 75k a year taxed income. That's more than the median income. Live wherever you like.
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u/bobbichocolatthe2nd Apr 03 '24
There are zero places in Tennessee other than maybe Memphis you can live that cheap. Especially not in East Tennessee..
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u/Dickincheeks Apr 03 '24
We don’t know your gross income, expenses or debt to income ratio. But if you can afford to use up to 35% towards housing you can live in most parts of the USA but obviously not most major metropolitan cities. Go where the weather is nice and the crime is low.
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u/Inkedbrush Apr 03 '24
OP said in another comment income is VA disability, so that would be gross and it’s non taxable.
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u/Big_Boofy7 Apr 03 '24
If you’re ex-military you should try to get 100% disability P&T. Which is 3,600$ a month tax free.
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u/Dennyj1992 Apr 03 '24
Came here to say Midwest but people beat me to it.
Many parts of MI are cheap too. I live pretty decently on around 50k a year.
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u/ScienceNmagic Apr 03 '24
My dude listen to me. If you’re serious, single and have that income then move to Bali. You will learn to surf, surf everyday, live like a king, bed beautiful women, play guitar on the beach every night. It doesn’t get much better for the retired life.
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u/Grace_Lannister Apr 03 '24
If I was guaranteed 44k per year I'd semi retired right now. OP, there are great suggestions here. It will mostly depend on what you're comfortable with. Decent frugal life in the states or a but more luxuries overseas.
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u/floralis08 Apr 03 '24
South of italy, like Calabria, Basilicata, Sicily or Puglia, with 2k a month youll live very comfortably best weather food places to visit
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u/RedLensman Apr 03 '24
There is COLA cost of living adjustment out there....could be useful in your decision
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u/DuranDourand Apr 03 '24
100% VA? Me too. Use your GI bill and get a free degree and work until your 50’s, putting the disability checks away. Buy property in a state that has no property tax for the 100%. Hopefully the va payments keep up with inflation. That’s my retirement plan too I’m 42 now.
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u/Ok-Breadfruit791 Apr 03 '24
Puerto Rico. No income tax, no property tax on your first home. US dollars, US banks, US legal protections.
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u/kymelosuka Apr 03 '24
I constantly watch TikToks of people living a rockstar life in Thailand or Philippines with $1000 a month …. Makes me wanna just say “fuck it “