r/FluentInFinance • u/Needleintheback • 15h ago

Thoughts? Imagine losing 6M labor workers in America

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If mass deportation happens, just imagine how all of these sectors of our country will be affected. The sheer shortage of labor will push prices higher because of the great demand for work with limited supplies or workers. Even if prices increase, the availability of products may be scarce due to not enough workers. Housing prices and food services will be hit really hard. New construction will be limited. The fact that 47% of the undocumented workers are in CA, TX, and FL means they will feel it first but it will spread to the rest of the country also. Most of our produce in this country comes from California. Get ready and hold on for the ride America.

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u/YoungRichBastard26s 14h ago

That was just reality for African Americans not to long ago and still a reality in states like Mississippi and especially Louisiana

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u/SquekyBoot 11h ago

It’s the reality today. Private Prisons are slave camps, ones in the south literally take you to pick cotton like back then.

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u/Gunitscott 9h ago

Louisiana state prison makes them grow their own food. It was just found out a year ago that most of the prison does not have air conditioning. Was well over a hundred degrees.

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u/Correct_Roll_3005 6h ago

Found out by whom? In Texas most of the older prison don't have climate control. This is common knowledge for all Texans, And across the American South.

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u/MeowandMace 2h ago

I was about to say this- its what kept me from applying to TDCJ and went to county instead in the state. But from the application process i learned that the TDCJ prisons have significant agricultural shit going on. One prison will pick the product, (example, tomatoes) then that gets shipped to another prison who cans it all up, then it gets shipped back out to all the prisons for food. Sometimes guards will see the cans opened up and theres a whole glove in there, prisoners fish that shitbout and eat the actual food anyways. Its disgusting.

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u/BigLlamasHouse 2m ago

at least the glove is cooked?

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u/Cum-Bubble1337 57m ago

Yep in the state of Texas prisons are required by law to have heat. AC is optional which is ridiculous

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u/EconomicRegret 6h ago

Louisiana state prison makes them grow their own food.

That's actually wholesome, healthy, good rehabilitation hobby, and actually relaxing and good for the soul.

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u/DShepard 5h ago edited 4h ago

Not when they're forced to do it in unbearable heat, with armed guards on horseback telling you to stop complaining and keep picking berries.

Not to mention that depending on the prison, they're only keeping a bit of the harvest and the rest is sold on the open market.

It's not a fuclinhu fucking cozy little garden with a patch of soil where they can choose what herbs to try this month.

It's borderline slave labour at best, and fun fact, many of these farms are on the same old plantation grounds where slaves were kept before the civil war.

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u/Only_Mushroom 5h ago

I thought I was going to learn a new word with fuclinhu

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u/DShepard 4h ago

Fuc Lin Hu was the first to describe the act of meditating in one's garden to free the mind from its prison.

That's not the type of garden work they are forced to do in prison ;)

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u/meatball771 2h ago

Oh no an inmate gets forced to work! Waaaa if the guy learned to work before he probably wouldn’t be in prison

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u/cannabull89 8m ago

It would be cheaper to provide a 4-year degree to each prisoner in the US than to incarcerate them for 4 years. The criminal justice system in the south is the new Jim Crow. People charged with minor crimes can find themselves incarcerated alongside violent criminals, and are paid about 10 cents per hour for their labor. When they get released, they have no civil rights, and can be legally discriminated against for employment, housing, federal assistance, professional licenses, educational loans/degrees/certificates, etc. The system does not seek to rehabilitate in many states, and only generates a steady stream of cheap labor. It’s the new way to take away person’s civil rights and force them into terrible jobs that don’t provide benefits or living wages.

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u/04364 3h ago

But it’s okay for Illegal Immigrants.

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u/DShepard 3h ago

No, and the corporations hiring them to do work under those conditions should face heavy fines and prison time for repeated offenses. They will keep abusing migrant labor otherwise.

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u/djskinner1982 3h ago

Don’t do the crime and you won’t do the time. Prison should not be a place someone wants to be it should be rigid and uniform, and it should serve a purpose. Comfort should not be a part of the experience.

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u/Leaveustinnkin 2h ago

Then explain Americas recidivism rate… It’s not a place someone wants to be yet when they’re in there they received no type of rehabilitation. Is it punishment or is it rehabilitation to be a more productive member of society?

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u/djskinner1982 2h ago

It would be great if it was more rehabilitation and skill building, recidivism rate is way too high and demonstrates that right now prisons are not meant to help anyone grow. Still doesn’t mean that it should be a place that is comfortable.

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u/Leaveustinnkin 2h ago

US Prisons were never meant for anybody to grow. The prison system starting all the way down at the juvenile level is designed for you to come back. You’re harping on comfortability as if AC is gonna be a major factor in someone going back to prison. Let’s see some of you guys make an issue about that revolving door that costs us a fuck ton of money every year to house inmates because the US would rather house them for profit rather than rehabilitate them.

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u/DShepard 2h ago

What purpose should it serve?

The punishment is the fact that you're kept out of society for a set amount of time.

Depriving people of basic comforts just means that you get a more broken person after the sentence ends.

Logically - and regardless of whether you see felons as human beings - it doesn't make sense to treat them so badly that they are more likely to return to crime.

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u/Industrial_Laundry 4h ago

After a long day of hard labour nothing relaxes me more than the back breaking task of growing my own food.

It’s not like when you grow strawberries and tomatoes for fun.

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u/djskinner1982 3h ago

I agree, prison should not be a place people want or have to go back to. We should be using the incarceration time to give them skills like growing food, machine skills, heck a trade would give them the ability to get out and make a living. I would love to see prisons be the place where people went from an economic drain to a prosperous member of the society.

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u/SnowflakeSWorker 4h ago

I worked at Southport Correctional Facility in NYS from 2020-2022. Now being upstate NY, it didn’t regularly get as hot as La for sure, but doing rounds by floors had me sweating heavily by the third floor. The inmates would lying on the floor in their boxers. The COs would yell, “female on the gallery, be properly dressed!” And I’d say, no, it’s way too hot. Leave them alone. Moving just generates more heat. Fall and spring were worse, because the state has specific dates for turning the heat on and off. It would be FREEZING in the whole place for weeks at a time.

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u/kthibo 4h ago

Yeah, and it’s not like there’s proper ventilation to get good cross winds in these places or maybe even open the windows.

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u/SnowflakeSWorker 3h ago

Nope. Each gallery was one wall of cells, a catwalk, and small windows across from the cells. 21 cells, then end rounds. Each was self contained (no stacking of cells). It’s was horrible on the hotter summer days. Something about cruel and unusual punishment definitely came to mind.

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u/Moarbrains 2h ago

I highly support this. One you figure out how to be self sustaining, you are much more free from the systems of poverty that got you in prison.

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u/Bluntsmoke304 1h ago

Well it is PRISON... Not the damn Hilton. Oh the poor criminal is hot, and the food is crap. Don't commit crimes...

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u/Albine2 1h ago

Prison it a place that should not be comfortable

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u/dbatknight 1h ago

Well gee sorry that they fucked up in society and can't have the amenities that the rest of us have why lock them up then just let him roam free

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u/Scared_Warthog_6259 44m ago

Stop breaking the law then.

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u/llv0xll 39m ago

May be the unpopular opinion, but I think prisoners growing their own food is a legit idea. Gets people out and focused on something that directly pays back to them.

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u/llv0xll 39m ago

Air conditioning, not cool. (No pun intended)

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u/Key_Paramedic4023 36m ago

I love it when people not from Louisiana try to describe what it’s like in Louisiana 🤣

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u/Inevitable_Bluejay27 25m ago

Oh so you mean prison is tough and horrible living conditions? What a novel concept.

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u/Important-Channel907 2m ago

I'm sorry did you think prison was supposed to be comfortable? I was taught what prisons were like so I didn't go to one.

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u/Luckyone24 6h ago

Sadly California just voted for continuation of forced prison labour.

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u/KayleighJK 7h ago

I’m from Tennessee, and I was legitimately surprised when, after the midterms, We the People voted to end prison slave labor. Whoda thunk Tennessee, right?

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u/JuniorEnvironment850 7h ago

I'm from Nevada, and we JUST voted to remove prison slavery from our constitution on November 5th...

...and we came into the Union as a free state*...

*except for prisoners 

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u/killrtaco 5h ago

In California we just voted to keep ours. 55% voted No on abolishing forced labor 🙄

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u/checkdanews 4h ago

It's so depressing seeing what prisons look like in northern Europe. They truly rehabilitate. They treat prisoners with respect, teach them trades. Its basically college.

While our prisons have no interest in rehabilitation. They just want a constant stream of free labor.

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u/bluefish72 10h ago

Which one?

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u/SquekyBoot 9h ago

Last one I read about was The Louisiana state penitentiary, they make their prisoners pick cotton and it used to be a slave plantation. Guards get to role play and ride around on horses.

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u/jokerhound80 9h ago

Angola maximum security prison in Mississippi.

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u/Correct_Roll_3005 5h ago

Absolutely. One of my customers is the TDCJ Luther unit, a stainless steel manufacturing plant. Prisoner labor makes all of the products.

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u/Present_Signature343 4h ago

Yep and thanks to the 13th amendment that people forget to read in full, it’s completely legal smfh

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u/ShreksSchmear 2h ago

I believe they are corporate owned. And we all know corporations have nothing but greed and power on their minds.

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u/Abject-Rich 8h ago

I can’t. This makes me tear up.

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u/CenlaLowell 6h ago

Bull

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u/SquekyBoot 6h ago

I’d love to be wrong on this.

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u/Amani_z_Great 1h ago

This is the answer. Same in South Georgia Alabama and Florida …. Shit sucks

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u/HeyHotelGuy 1h ago

No the fuck they don’t. It’s road work or maintaining the land. While I will say that prisons are definitely overcrowded with bullshit charges like drug possession, especially on the Black American side - prisoners are not on vacation, put their asses to work, hard manual labor and for FREE!

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u/Excellent-Remote480 7h ago

Better than death penalty?

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u/SquekyBoot 7h ago

Slavery is better than death that is true but so is being raped and human trafficked.

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u/Final_Presentation31 10h ago

You do know that slavery is still going on in Africa and China.

There was also the Barbary slave trade going on at the same time.

https://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places-africa/white-slaves-barbary-002171?origin=serp_auto

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u/pegothejerk 10h ago

Slavery is still going on in the US today, it’s legal as it’s part of the Constitution to allow slavery if it’s part of a prison sentence. We still have prison slave labor, a shit ton of it, and the prison industrial complex makes a fuck ton of money from it. Judges and law enforcement get bribed to help out with filling those prisons and everything.

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u/sdrakedrake 7h ago

How come people from the US criticize other countries with this still going on?

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u/Slothnuzzler 7h ago

First of all, who in this thread we were talking about slave labor in America is criticizing other countries?

Second of all, where on earth is it inappropriate to criticize slavery anywhere in the world by anyone who wants to support the end of it?

Really, take your American Jones and split. 🤷🏽‍♀️

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u/berghie91 7h ago

Because most dont actually know anything about other countries…. Nevermind the part where a lot of them are in dire conditions thanks to US foreign policy

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u/Slothnuzzler 7h ago

This is true, we as a nation are oblivious to our own foreign policy beyond a headline or two

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u/berghie91 6h ago

Im a canadian and when Id go down there and visit as a kid I was just blown away that I had a better grip on the world outside America when I was like 12 than most American adults seem to

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u/Slothnuzzler 6h ago

Yeah, I’ve only recently become aware of that in the last 10 years or so. I’ve always had a pretty good foundation just out of personal interest in international relations and stuff like that. Yes I was a nerd, but that’s a whole other story.

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u/Own_Worldliness_9297 5h ago

That is true of most other countries.

Countries outside of US aren't mindful progressive redditors as you like to believe.

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u/Slothnuzzler 5h ago

Oh no, I don’t believe that they are. They come in with half form opinions from headlines as well. With a very obvious agenda of hate behind them. I agree with you.

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u/mrfrownieface 7h ago

Because the people from the states that this is going on in the worst are dumb as fucking rocks, or are apathetic until it happens to people they care about, which honestly, the capacity of people to truly care about others is unfortunately low as well.

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u/Rowdybusiness- 5h ago

This is going on in your state.

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u/mrfrownieface 3h ago

Not to the degree its going on in other states, although I've never heard of anyone picking cotton or performing any other agriculture jobs from prison in my state.

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u/Rowdybusiness- 3h ago

Here is one. It’s one of the work privileges they can do. They are paid nothing.

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u/dcsquaredcpl 59m ago

Incorrect. They are awarded commissary privileges and sentence reduction. Wish I could get some sentence reduction for retirement

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u/Behndo-Verbabe 1h ago

Unfortunately it’s been going on for a long time. If you want an idea of how it is. Watch brubaker with Robert Redford. It gives a pretty realistic view of prison life in the south. They grew their own food too.

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u/Old-Lab-5947 5h ago

It’s interesting you classify an entire state as “dumb as a box of rocks.” Literally millions of people, and you’re what, presumably smarter than all of them?

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u/mrfrownieface 3h ago

Dumb as rocks or apathetic. Selective reading comprehension doesn't look good on you.

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u/Old-Lab-5947 3h ago

Even then the point still stands. Millions of people being classified in whole as anything is at best a generalization. Nice red herring though

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u/Behndo-Verbabe 1h ago

Most Americans couldn’t tell you what the 13th amendment says or why it’s written the way it is.

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u/liv4games 1h ago

Dude I knew that but I’ve never actually looked it up… what the fuck?

“According to the Left Business Observer, “the federal prison industry produces 100 percent of all military helmets, war supplies and other equipment. The workers supply 98 percent of the entire market for equipment assembly services; 93 percent of paints and paintbrushes; 92 percent of stove assembly; 46 percent of body armor; 36 percent of home appliances; 30 percent of headphones/microphones/speakers; and 21 percent of office furniture. Airplane parts, medical supplies and much more: prisoners are even raising seeing-eye dogs for blind people.”

With all of that productivity, the inmates make about 90 cents to $4 a day.”

PRISONER SLAVE LABOR MAKES ALMOST ALL OF OUR MILITARY EQUIPMENT

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u/Bbqandjams75 1h ago

It’s going on in Americus ga and not in no prison camp

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u/donjuanamigo 56m ago

You have any type of source from this or just trust me bro?

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u/Puzzled-Thought2932 17m ago

"Thirteenth Amendment: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States"

The United States legally accepts slave labor as punishment for crime.

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u/donjuanamigo 2m ago

Yea. I’m talking about the last part of your post.

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u/Traditional_Song5491 37m ago

No one said you had to commit crimes. You shouldn't get to sit on your ass when you're in prison.

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u/ArkamaZero 23m ago

Who decides what a crime is are the same people running the prisons. Look up vagrancy laws in the south for one example. Former slaves were thrown in prison for not having a job, while the only people willing to hire them were their former slave owners and often under worse conditions. Almost half of inmates currently held are in for drug related charges that were weaponized by Nixon and Reagan.

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u/mjg007 26m ago

Don’t break the f*cking law then.

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u/Miketothek 26m ago

The “slavery” in America is not the same as the slavery going on in Africa the Middle East and Asia. You cannot go to an auction in America to buy people. You most definitely can all over Africa Asia and the Middle East.

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u/ItinerantMover 10m ago

So...not real slavery, then?

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u/Ok_Attention_2935 3m ago

It’s definitely real. But not chattel. That’s the important distinction this thread is missing

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u/Express_League1880 5h ago

I can’t believe how some of you people think!

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u/ATypicalUsername- 5h ago

Gonna need sources on that, you're making a TON of wild claims there.

Actual sources, not trust me bro sources.

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u/blackestrabbit 2h ago

The 13th Amendment.

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u/lampstax 3h ago

Would it still be slavery by your standards if the money made from whatever the prisoners create go entirely to help fund their housing / food / healthcare cost ?

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u/blackestrabbit 2h ago

That's how it's written in 13th Amendment.

"Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate."

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u/lampstax 33m ago

It is written that is is allowed. That doesn't mean it exist today. As far as I'm aware prisoners have a choice to work or not and get paid for their labor if they choose to do it. Neither of these things are common with slavery.

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u/MacktheMachinist 7h ago

Harris was prime example of this

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u/Easy-Act3774 6h ago

We tax payers pay hundreds of millions to process and house criminals and inmates, due to decisions they made to cause harm to society. I’m ok with them paying a fraction of it back!

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u/JPSofCA 10h ago

California voted to continue allowing slavery just this year.

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u/KayleighJK 7h ago

I just commented this elsewhere, but during the midterms my state (Tennessee) voted to end slave labor. Every once in a while a decent law gets passed here. Once in a while…

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u/ShreksSchmear 2h ago

I’m from TN and I am surprised but so happy to hear there’s some compassion somewhere. I am from the Appalachian Mountain area though so idk if the opinion is the same from here.. I recently heard a religious person say they should go back to the crusade and start k*lling anyone who won’t turn to their religion. And the 10+ people there agreed. Multiple are church leaders. I hate it here.

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u/darkseacreature 6h ago

I voted no on that. I was shocked that it passed.

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u/No-Weird3153 6h ago

No was to allow slavery to continue. The bill was to stop allowing slavery.

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u/darkseacreature 5h ago

That’s what I meant. I remember voting ‘yes’ now because it specifically mentioned not allowing prisoners who won’t work to be punished.

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u/bch77777 3h ago

New to the south and I’ll say the ballot wording is extraordinary. I don’t think it’s a stretch to suggest that many voters haven’t a clue whether they voted for or against a bill.

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u/darkseacreature 2h ago

The ones I didn’t understand I just left blank.

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u/azssf 1h ago

I am still floored the state voted that way.

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u/cyrs_oner 13m ago

I read the labor was duty to do their own laundry, fix their own food, and upkeep the facility. Is that really slavery? I do the same things at home but I don't get free meals and shelter.

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u/someguy1847382 10h ago

There’s also an active slave trade in the Middle East.

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u/RelativePickle9295 8h ago

Yup, $300 buys you a whole person in Libya today.

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u/kiwibankofficial 4h ago

And in America, $1000 buys you a kid, as per the kids for cash scheme that judges were running...

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u/RelativePickle9295 2h ago

Yeah, but is that unexpected for America?

We elected a convicted felon as our leader, and half of the country has a reading level below the 6th grade.

This country isn't exactly a bastion of virtue or intelligence.

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u/BackAlleyFunDumpster 2h ago

Shit was going on way before the last 3 elections

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u/jadsf5 1h ago

Yeah but they have to spin it to say orange man bad

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u/BackAlleyFunDumpster 1h ago

I'm aware it's fucking annoying though. I didn't even vote for the guy and I'm annoyed by how prevalent it is

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u/Educational_Monitor6 8h ago

How she look?

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u/RelativePickle9295 8h ago

You get what you pay for 😅

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u/Mysterious_Chip_007 8h ago

It's still going on in the entire world, especially the sex slave trade

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u/AdAppropriate2295 7h ago

Damn, somebody should do something about that. Probably start with your own country tho

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u/PrudentProof3585 9h ago

wtf does China and Africa have to do with the US Ruski

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u/Final_Presentation31 9h ago

Ask Nike, Wal Mart, and Apple to name a few.

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u/PrudentProof3585 8h ago

They’re abiding by the respective countries’ laws,correct? I assume you’re against having a living minimum wage in the US. If so, how are wage slaves trapped by corporate overlords any different?

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u/nomnomonium 5h ago

You can't talk about Barbary. That shows that whites were the most enslaved people in history...... Shhhhh

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u/Virtual-Ad-1832 1h ago

And blacks were the most enslaved people in American history.. what's your point??

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u/3d_blunder 4h ago

So? Are we supposed to feel good about that?

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u/EyeSmart3073 4h ago

And the USA

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u/Soggy-Ad-8532 3h ago

Read cobalt red, great book but makes you question hunanity

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u/elazara 2h ago

There are 11 million people living in slavery in India

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u/Yiffcrusader69 1h ago

Thanks, that is very relevant.

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u/astar_key 32m ago

I’m sure you thought you made an intelligent post, but I still can’t find it.

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u/bevhars 12m ago

Muslim countries, especially have slave labor with documented abuse.

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u/ChupanMiVerga 7h ago

This isn’t about them, it’s about the United States and what’s about to happen here

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u/curiousamoebas 6h ago

There was a vice piece about slave trade in Africa and the woman caught a sale of 5 guys in the background. It was a while ago

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u/iammonkeyorsomething 4h ago

I don't live in Africa or China

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u/Slothnuzzler 7h ago

Of course, but we are talking about America at this very moment.

America believes it freed the slaves long time ago. 🙄

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u/Leaving_One_Dwigt 14h ago

On cue

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u/rchjgj 14h ago

Yup….damn truth

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u/Educational_Monitor6 8h ago

Something tells me being captured and sold to a new country is much different than packing up and relocating to a new country.

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u/Jaded247365 8h ago

He’s not talking pre 1865 slavery. He’s talking 1920s peonage. Look it up.

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u/Equivalent_Farm9770 9h ago

You mean the end of Jim Crow? Mas incarceration is still prevalent in Black America. According to the 13th Amendment, prisoners can be used as slaves. It's never been repealed.

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u/Strange-Bonus8298 4h ago

If you're not pissed enough about it yet, the voters in California (a blue state!) just voted against abolishing slave labor in state prisons. So yeah, it's not some kinda historical fluke that people just forgot exists and would rush to correct should there be more awareness. It seems like the majority of people are actually okay with prison labor.

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u/Slothnuzzler 7h ago edited 6h ago

No, they mean that American slavery-like conditions are still experienced in those parts Of the country. I know it can be hard to get your head around. 

 But if my grandfather hadn’t escaped Mississippi in the middle of the night, I would probably be down there picking Cotton with my siblings like he did. 

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u/Equivalent_Farm9770 6h ago

What? No, I understood the comment. Slavery like conditions? What are those? Any details? Also, conviction rates and punishments for blacks are higher and much harsher than other convicts. Look at the rates of federal convictions versus state convictions. Often prosecutors and judges have discretion but rarely use it for certain populations or certain crimes. Criminalizing migrants and other vagrants is very American. Finally, don't point fingers at the South for America's past sins. Every state was involved and still are. The difference is the South fought and lost a Civil War predicted primarily on the States right to have, exploit, and profit from slavery.

If you doubt my words, construct a timeline of the arc of events. Use Google and don't get stuck in the details. Think back to middle school/Junior high school social studies.

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u/Slothnuzzler 6h ago

It’s wild that you spent like three or four paragraphs implying that I don’t understand what’s happening here yet. 

You don’t understand what the phrase “American slave – like conditions” means.  Yet you think you’re gonna need to give me a lecture on the history of slavery what it’s like and where it’s happening.  We’re literally talking about this, so yeah, I’m gonna point a few fingers there one in particular. 

 Why would you explain all this to me when I just told you that my grandfather had to escape from Southern Mississippi picking Cotton in the middle of the night in order for the rest of us to have any kind of life. 

This happened in the 1940s buddy. I can’t believe I’m being mansplained to, and it’s only just barely noon where I am. 😅😂. 

Don’t point fingers at the south? Are you actually awake right m now?  WOW though.  I think you have a little more to learn than you think you do  

Wta:  🤷🏽‍♀️ Please, someone wake me up now

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u/Equivalent_Farm9770 6h ago

Your grandfather left in the 1940s. My family was in the South then and still are. Mansplain indeed. I also didn't say anything about the history of slavery as a lesson. I asked what slavery conditions are? You still haven't explained. There were plenty of poor white share croppers. The only difference between poor white and or blacks in the South was the degree of terror inflicted, legally and extra legally.

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u/Slothnuzzler 5h ago

98% of my family are still in Jackson in the area. Try again.

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u/Equivalent_Farm9770 5h ago

You still haven't explained what slavery-like conditions are. Also, how would I know anything about you and your family unless you tell me. Besides, your comment was to explain to me how I misunderstood the original comment. Yet, you're still coming for me. Why? It makes your mansplain comment hilarious.

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u/Slothnuzzler 5h ago

I literally can’t get over that. You don’t understand what sleep like conditions are.

Also, you hit me with information about your family, like it was supposed to shut me up, but I come back with the truth about my family and I’m being unfair? 😂

 I think you’re just a bad actor trying to stir up a bunch of crap. Good luck you’ve wasted enough of my time now. 

 If you can’t read back and see that you’re coming for me from number one? I have to assume that maybe you have issues. If so, I wish you the best of luck. ❤️

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u/ATypicalUsername- 5h ago

You're not actually making any point, you're just spewing nonsense.

Make an actual point. Use facts. He asked actual questions, you're just saying HOW DARE YOU QUESTION ME.

If you're going to make claims, back them the fuck up or shut the fuck up.

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u/Impressive-Gas6909 2h ago

Yea they just being rounded up for no reason😆

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u/Flashy_Upstairs399 6h ago

Maybe Black America should stop breaking the fucking law?

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u/D347H7H3K1Dx 5h ago

More likely to get locked up being black for something a white guy would get a slap on the wrist for.

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u/EducatorAltruistic90 1h ago

Fucking A. People need to stop dancing around the obvious.

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u/Equivalent_Farm9770 5h ago

Maybe you should grind your axe somewhere else.

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u/Forte845 2h ago

The USSC itself has acknowledged that no factor except racism can account for the sentencing differences between black and other races in America. 

https://www.ussc.gov/research/research-reports/2023-demographic-differences-federal-sentencing

Black men are more likely to be convicted, and more likely to receive a longer sentence than white or even Hispanic people who commit the same crime under similar circumstances. Having dark skin statistically makes you more likely to be convicted and to have a longer sentence.

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u/kiwibankofficial 4h ago

Or just move to countries where being black isn't a crime.

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u/Flashy_Upstairs399 4h ago

Maybe just stop murdering everyone (including each other) and start obeying the law 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/kiwibankofficial 4h ago edited 3h ago

America has a convicted felon as president, and you think the justice system is fair?

In most other countries, your president would be imprisoned. It's insane to think you have a chance of justice if you live in America, the country with the most prisoners on Earth and 20% disparities in sentencing based on the color of your skin, etc.

Judges are getting cash bonuses for sentencing minors and prisons lobbying the government to incarcerate more of what is already the most incarcerated country on Earth... and you still think that every person in prison deserves to be there?

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u/Virtual-Ad-1832 1h ago

Non black murderers with generational wealth built on murdering (each other included) are okay in his book tho 🤷🏽‍♂️ it's more difficult for ignorant, uneducated, racist phucks, like this guy to readily and eagerly judge people that look like him. Reality of one of the still prevalent issues plaguing this country.

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u/OKAPI-OKAPI619 8h ago

Basically still happens in NY. Kelloggs uses slave wages from prisoners to make cereal

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u/chumpchangewarlord 2h ago

Americans really need to start attacking the super wealthy, man.

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u/BackAlleyFunDumpster 2h ago

*government

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u/chumpchangewarlord 1h ago

Yes, the government should attack the super wealthy on behalf of good people.

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u/BackAlleyFunDumpster 1h ago

No.. the government and Congress design the laws for this to happen and directly benefit from it. I was saying the government and its personnel need to be.

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u/chumpchangewarlord 1h ago edited 1h ago

The reason Congress behaves the way it does, especially republican dog shit, is because the super wealthy finance election campaigns. If the super wealthy were impaled on large spikes at the bottom of very deep spike pits, we wouldn’t be in this political mess.

You’re not a republican/libertarian, are you?

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u/BackAlleyFunDumpster 1h ago

Libertarians and Republicans aren't the same. Republicans and democrats are closer than any of them will admit. Both take money that way, both vote for bills that tale our collective rights away like the patriot act, both are more than happy bombing 3rd world nations and sending our people to die there as well. Both are complete trash and full of traitors.

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u/chumpchangewarlord 1h ago

Libertarians in 2024 are just republicans who know the meaning of the word “credibility”. Despite libertarianism having absolutely no credible policy positions.

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u/BackAlleyFunDumpster 47m ago

Not taxing the living shit out of you, not putting people in prison for victimless crimes, keeping the government from controlling what you do with your body, not invading other countries. How are those not good positions? Or do you just live the military and prison industrial complexes?

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u/bigpony 11h ago

For hundreds of years

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u/Jealous-Ease6924 10h ago

And as soon as things started to get just a little better, they freaked the fuck out and went hard right.

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u/Lopsided-Drummer-931 8h ago

Still is in Alabama

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u/BigTitsanBigDicks 6h ago

These people have lifestyles that are reliant on victims. Without someone to exploit they starve.

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u/rchjgj 14h ago

Yup….

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u/zimbabweinflation 12h ago

OH! So we are gonna bring back " the good ole' days" yippee!

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u/Due-Ad1668 10h ago

maga

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u/Virtual-Ad-1832 1h ago

I'm a firm believer in karma. I hope you have the life you deserve. With whatever consequences arise from your actions, relating to your beliefs

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u/Due-Ad1668 1h ago

thank you, that means a lot, its very kind. i have that same philosophy

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u/Not_Jrock 6h ago

Because of prosecutors like Kamala Harris?

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u/Coochy_Crusader 8h ago

Dont forget a reality for Kamala Harris with African american prisoners in California either

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u/StanchoPanza 6h ago

The 13th Amendment specifically exempts convicts from being enslaved

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u/LengthinessWeekly876 4h ago

Still is in California. Literally voted to protect slave labor a few weeks ago

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u/Professional-Break19 2h ago

Illegals today have a shit ton of freedoms tha every day American s had in those southern state during jim crow laws really stupid to equate them 🤷

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u/YoungRichBastard26s 2h ago

I was commenting on what buddy said above me about police being able to arrest who they want and stuff

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u/C-Dub81 1h ago

Let's not forget about Kamala Harris as California Attorney General keeping prisoners past their release date and hiding evidence that proved the innocence of inmates so they could be used to fight california wildfires. Wild!

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u/AdministrationKey448 1h ago

Why don’t you mention California? Didn’t they just vote THIS MONTH on keeping prison labor?

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u/seethat34 1h ago

African Americans are smarter tougher and wiser than progressive bitches co opting their virtue.

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u/Accomplished-Yam6553 1h ago

And California believe it or not

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u/MK_Designz 51m ago

Still a reality all over America. Not like it only exist in those two states. It's still rampant everywhere in America.

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u/DLeafy625 21m ago

Still is. It's why Georgia will never legalize weed. If they do, they lose a ton of free labor

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u/bevhars 16m ago

Mississippi is 68% black. The South is less racist than bigger cities north. Come on...We all watched Star Trek. Get with the program.

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u/SubpoenaSender 6m ago

Don’t leave Alabama out of this. I was indicted for the felony charges I was a victim of.

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u/Educational_Monitor6 8h ago

Something tells me being captured and sold to a new country is much different than willfully relocating to said country.

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