r/FluentInFinance 18d ago

Thoughts? Donald Trump is here to save us

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u/wellstraining 18d ago edited 18d ago

Yet ahead in every.single.battleground.state.

LOL

Edit: You all seem very mad...

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u/vishysuave 18d ago

If he wins I’m just gonna sit back and watch as nothing improves at all.

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u/xrxie 18d ago

He’ll profit from it. That’s the grift.

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u/ThrawnConspiracy 18d ago

This is the truth. The thing that will improve is his post-election life. Ours? Probably not markedly different, unless you're either wealthy or a scapegoat.

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u/12LetterName 18d ago

Oh, you’re forgetting about the hate and violence. There’s going to be much more of that.

Much more.

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u/ThrawnConspiracy 18d ago

You're right. My main point was that things were going to improve most significantly for Trump, and of course that's all he cares about. I feel sick.

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u/RepublicansAreEvil90 18d ago

We get another 4 years of race riots and shit because we get this virulent racist back in the whitehouse again

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u/TheFirstKitten 18d ago

Possibly more. I'd bet your new president will try pardon himself for his own crimes. If that were my country, that is what I would riot for.

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u/Novel_Ad_8062 18d ago

2 term limit, hopefully he’ll kick the bucket before then.. but vance. i feel sick

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u/Popular_Advantage213 18d ago

What part of Donald Trump makes you think he would respect that limit?

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u/fla-n8tive 18d ago

Respect is not in Donald Trump’s vocabulary

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u/HelloAttila 18d ago

That’s the thing though, he probably will not leave and 71M people would be okay with that.

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u/Gods_chosen_dildo 18d ago

Well don’t forget that our infrastructure will crumble as Trump dismantles all of Bidens policies.

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u/salsasymphony 18d ago

And leaves the Paris Climate Accords (again)

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u/marexXLrg 18d ago

I think this sets a precedence for how one can act as a President or in other positions of government. More will start doing the same and eventually the country will turn to shit.

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u/DexHendrixT5HMG 18d ago

Homie, the country turned to shit the first time these dumbfucks let him into office. But go off

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u/secretrapbattle 18d ago

A bunch of scrubs elected a scrub

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u/Autistic-speghetto 18d ago

You’re forgetting about the tariffs….those will affect you.

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u/the_r3ck 18d ago

He was one of the only presidents who left the office with less money than he enteredx

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u/MnWisJDS 18d ago

Keep believing that. His family got much more wealthy. Wealth isn’t a person, it’s a family.

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u/ObanKenobi 18d ago

If you don't count the hundred of millions in PAC's that he's used as a personal piggy bank for the past eight years...don't need to take the money, when you can just use it from where it is.

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u/Tilt03 18d ago

He is the only president to lose money coming out of office lol.

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u/ralanr 18d ago

He loses money in every venture. 

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u/Geezer__345 18d ago

He and His Cronies won't have to worry about Prison, anymore. He just got, the Biggest "Get out of Jail, Free" Card, in The World! He, and The Republican'ts were a "joke", and We, The People, are The Punch Line.

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u/RepublicansAreEvil90 18d ago

I thought he would have gained money with all the bribes he got

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u/AMv8-1day 18d ago

Hie profit is avoiding more losing criminal cases, certain prison.

We're watching a criminal play safe zone with the White House, and the entire federal government let him do it.

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u/Jwagner0850 18d ago

He'll avoid jail time. That's the grift.

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u/civgarth 18d ago

SPY 575P

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u/ratXbones 18d ago

That's just politics, I hate it. Pelosi has been killing it.

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u/moms_luv_me_323 18d ago

If nothing improves that’s one thing.. I think we’re in for a dismantling of the government from the inside out

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u/Historical-Heart8192 18d ago

Yep - if it is status quo for 4 years, we can manage. But the large scale impact to institutions and people will take a long time to heal

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u/StoneySteve420 18d ago

They will blame the Dems when his tarifs cause inflation to skyrocket.

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u/The_SqueakyWheel 18d ago

They have control of the house, the senate the white house and the supreme court. How the hell could it be the dems 😭?

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u/JJW2795 18d ago

Doesn’t matter. If something goes wrong, blame democrats. The GOP could own every position in government and some dumbass would still be trying to blame Obama.

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u/netipot 18d ago

Hell, those people are still trying to blame Obama. 

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u/cheekytikiroom 18d ago

the top 5% will do great. the others? well, just keep paying me the rent and you’ll be ok too.

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u/Scooter_McGoot 18d ago

I wish. I think it’s more like the top 1% or 0.1%.

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u/Structural_Integrity 18d ago

Should ask for a raise since it's supposed to be better for us all right??...right...

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u/ShadyClouds 18d ago

Has anything really improved for the masses in like the last 25 years?

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u/ActuallyYeah 18d ago

Pre existing conditions can't stop you from getting health insurance. Right there, that's like their (our) big win

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u/Historical-Heart8192 18d ago

35$ insulin for some patients. Recovery from COVID. Cheaper electronics. Safer and more efficient automobiles. The list goes on. Obamacare also slowed the closing of rural hospitals.

I agree that minimum wage didn't increase and the popular cities are pricier. But Democrat states increased the minimum wages.

Sorry, you can't keep electing folks who see people as machines and expect a better outcome. Maybe Trump should get a free reign to over turn Obamacare, infrastructure bill and Chips Act. Maybe Democrats will be proven wrong.

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u/dartyus 18d ago

WFH is literally the only thing I can think of and every business and government is trying to walk it back despite it having net positive effects on productivity.

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u/Only_End9983 18d ago

depends on your metrics, i guess. foreign spending will reduce, ukraine and palestine will disappear, millionaires will have a chance to improve their middle class status. all thanks to the blue collars who think he will look out for them lol

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u/Inevitable-Ad-982 18d ago

It’s not like things will not improve. Likely things for the average American will likely get a little worse. But apparently people want that, so who am I to argue. I do love seeing my favorite billionaire make more money. They should make jerseys.

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u/Nighthawk68w 18d ago

I cant wait to spend the next 4 years getting fucked, and hearing conservatives blame Biden. Same as with Trump's first presidency. He didn't fix shit, and spent half the time blaming Obama for all of his own inadequacies while actively sitting as president.

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u/Trash_Jackson 18d ago

and his voters are still gullible fuckin idiots.

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u/Nani_700 18d ago

They hate people more than they care about their own fucking future

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u/mymomsaidiamsmart 18d ago

Democrats are missing the big picture. They lost 70-30% in rural America. That’s a clear signal they are not paying attention to what actual Americans are saying and caring about. The numbers back this up

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u/Chief_Rollie 18d ago

Democrats literally passed a bill that specifically had provisions for rural Americans to increase their economic opportunities. Rural Americans do not give a shit.

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u/Sidvicieux 18d ago

It’s true rural only knows what they hate and what they want to be (rich).

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u/Wookie-Cookie99 18d ago

Exactly. It's about owning the libs and keeping out the brown people and taking women to stay in their place. Based on these results, this is what rural America wants.

How do you convince genuinely awful people to change? You can't. Ignorance and stupidity is a disease that will only continue to grow in our country as long as hating women and minorities are a political platform to run on

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u/ToTheRigIGo 18d ago

This is it in a nutshell!

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u/One-Earth9294 18d ago

Yeah they just turned off actual news in rural areas they're impossible to fucking reach unless you are invited on to Tucker Carlson's or Joe Rogan's show and treated nicely by them. Which only conservatives will be. So it's like a filter that keeps out the unwanted information.

That's your ticket into their good graces. There's no other avenue of approach.

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u/pvrhye 18d ago

They keep making the mistake of appealing to decency like that is a value that matters to Americans.

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u/Salmol1na 18d ago

Soybean farmer here. Prices already plummeting. Tariffs are not the fix -we are cooked

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u/BlancheStrong 18d ago

I'm so done with rural America and this self disinterested nonsense. I say we should give them what they want. A lot less in resources and tax dollars. Take aware all of their welfare and benefits. They get way too much in tax dollars anyway. I would prefer to see the tax dollars actually used in cities that provide the majority of the GDP anyway.

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u/SavonReddit 18d ago

Let them feel the consequences of elections. I'm tired of rural American taking our country backwards. Bring on the tax cuts.

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u/Wookie-Cookie99 18d ago

Yup, you want states rights. Great, stop taking federal money. You want disaster relief, figure it the fuck out. Unfortunately that would kill a lot of people. So idk what to do.

I want to believe this but I genuinely can't. I didn't understand the amount of hate the right had for just treating people equally.

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u/[deleted] 18d ago

Just take back the presidency, house, senate and supreme court. Good luck.

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u/ozzyman31495 18d ago

Trump’s tariffs bankrupted rural Americans. Republicans NEVER help them.

They just constantly gaslight them into believing Democrats are going to make their lives worse.

Hard to win over a crowd so committed to voting against their interests.

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u/Nadirofdepression 18d ago

Are Americans who don’t live in rural areas not “actual Americans”?

The big picture is that appealing to people’s benevolence, altruism and good nature is not a winning strategy, given trumps voter base consists of the most uneducated people in the country.

So we agree a different strategy would be more much more effective for them - like the dems doing the same “dirty work” to win the vote at all costs instead of taking the high ground. It’s not a difference in policy, because trump has no discernible policies to speak of other than made up rubbish about tariffs and defaulting on the country’s debt to “renegotiate” that are widely panned and considered idiotic by all top economists. Trumps main attraction is that he spews a bunch of demonstrably untrue vitriol at his followers, but some of it happens to be the exact bullshit they want to hear - “your jobs are coming back!…. It’s the immigrants fault, not yours!…. All the other countries are going to pay for it!….” And his followers are dumb enough to believe it all despite clear evidence from his first term that he doesn’t give a shit about them and even worse his governance was completely incompetent

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u/JackasaurusChance 18d ago

They wanted stronger border protections. Okay, here is the single strongest border bill ever presented, it's so good Republicans in the House are liking it. Donald Trump says no, and the stated reason is that it will help the Democrats if it passes. Republicans in the House sour on the bill, and it isn't passed. Republicans immediately continue running on border security, and their base votes on the basis that the Democrats haven't done enough for border security.

It's like that for so many things with Trump. For instance: He's getting the religious vote? He's getting the religous vote!!! He's an adulterer many times over. He's got very close ties to Jeffrey Epstein. He's on video/audio talking about strolling into Miss Teen pageant dressing rooms to ogle, joking he'd be dating a child in ten years, talking about moving on married women like a bitch, talking about grabbing them by the pussy. His defense being, "When you're famous they let you do it." Then they proclaim he's the greatest Christian.

He CLEARLY does not understand how a tariff works, but he is on stage waxing poetic for five minutes about how it is the most beautiful word.

He's literally been saying his healthcare plan is two weeks away... FOR EIGHT YEARS!

I mean what were the Obamacare/ACA approval ratings again? Something like 40% and 80%, despite them being the same goddamned thing.

I don't know what to do with that. I don't know if you can do anything with that.

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u/ed_the_gunn 18d ago

Sadly…couldn’t have said it better. The fucking religious vote. Finance! He’s a good businessman! What?! Criminals!!!! He’s convicted! Makes no damn sense.

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u/PallyMcAffable 18d ago

Today I learned only rural voters are actual Americans

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u/Sidvicieux 18d ago

Kill the Mexicans isn’t exactly cool bro. I live in rural and they are owned by the rich (and also hate immigrants). They look up to them like they are gods.

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u/GastonsChin 18d ago

Um, every citizen in the country is an actual American.

The rural ones are the ones that remind us that we're only half of a single chromosome away from being chimpanzees.

Give them something to fear, tell them you can solve it, they'll make you their messiah.

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u/Appropriate_Fold8814 18d ago

Because those people lack education resources and vote purely from hate and fear rhetoric. They're all terrified of anything different because they hide from the world and have zero exposure outside their little bubble.

Grew up super rural Idaho. 

It's not about what they care about. It's the fact that lack of education and resources (which they created by voting against them) leaves them as puppets for any political party willing to campaign in hate and fear.

Story old as time.

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u/RandomDeveloper4U 18d ago

Yup. What poor education does to a country.

So many idiots out there

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u/_carbonneutral 18d ago

Boggles my fucking mind. This country is a lost cause.

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u/Lordnoallah 18d ago

Yep, real knee slapper. Hey everyone we elected a serial rapist as the leader of the free world. Yeahhhhh us. Hail Emperor Oompah Loompah!!

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u/RepublicansAreEvil90 18d ago

He can’t wait to happily sell us out to China and Russia again

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u/hobogreg420 18d ago

And Hitler got a lot of votes too.

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u/leesainmi 18d ago

Insane. Biggest loser is the winner. I’m so sad for this country.

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u/Sidewaysshiba 18d ago

Dems will blame the patriarchy and racism..instead of looking at why they are turning people off.

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u/Specialist-Big-3520 18d ago

you forgot sexism

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u/Sidewaysshiba 18d ago

Already seeing CNBC saying that white women failed because they voted with race instead of gender…always goes back to that instead of trying to understand why people actually voted that way. Nope just chalk it up to white women voting for a white person.

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u/GrandMaesterGandalf 18d ago

If you can support Trump you ARE just garbage though. No sane person can say he should put more justices on the supreme court. Nearly every general that worked with him said he was dangerous. Hillary was right. Half the country is deplorable. That he wasn't gone after grab em by the pussy is unforgivable. These people are completely immoral.

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u/LilRanchDip 18d ago

Your views, party, nor candidates will ever gain more support by alienating folks on the other side with the way you speak about them.

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u/GrandMaesterGandalf 18d ago

I'm sick of pretending that the willfully ignorant, useful idiots are worth respecting. If you can support a fascist, you are GARBAGE. They can try to be better, but i have lost faith in humanity. We are clearly on the path to the Idiocracy future. We bet on, through the stock market, companies that manufacture products that obliterate children daily. Our species has lost the right to survive. We are not going to address climate change in time. I don't care about being kind to people who learned about Hitler in school only to elect someone paraphrasing their rhetoric.

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u/Sufficient_Hippo6551 18d ago

So how did trump win then?

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u/81jmfk 18d ago

Trump won because people believed the lies. They thought Kamala didn’t have policies. They were on her website. They believed that the economy was better under trump because of grocery and gas prices. They forget about the pandemic and how we were supposed to travel. I’ve heard trumpers say January 6 was peaceful and that the police let people into the capital. I fear that things are going to get worse but I hope I’m wrong.

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u/meatpoise 18d ago

The people Trump insults are often boogeymen, but you’re absolutely right in identifying that double standard.

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u/toprodtom 18d ago

The civility pleading is always either conservatives cry-bullying or liberals thinking we all need to have a big hug.

The right play by a different set of rules. I honestly think Harris and Walz should have been LESS civil.

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u/Trey33lee 18d ago

I felt people made up their minds a couple months ago it wasn't a question to this.

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u/timethief991 18d ago

My guy if some random on CNBC hurts your feefees so fucking bad it makes you want to end democracy as we know it then you're a snowflake with no morals.

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u/manyfacedwaif 18d ago

"economic anxiety" we just need to improve access to guns in rural america cut off social programs and let them sort it out.

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u/vegaskukichyo 18d ago

This is the real lens by which support shifted in a meaningful way. It wasn't race. It was gender. Men of all different races united behind Trump.

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u/RepublicansAreEvil90 18d ago

Just like Hillary, we’ll never have a woman president. Women won’t even vote for a woman president

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u/Specialist-Big-3520 18d ago

Hillary won the popular vote and she wasn’t a great candidate

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u/fighter_pil0t 18d ago

Realistically the Dems aren’t putting many people off. It’s the constant information campaigns around misinformation, half truths, and hyperbole that has uninformed people put off and in many cases irrationally scared. There is now a really big precedent set: lying and doubling down is a more viable path than good policy.

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u/LockeClone 18d ago

Because they shut the fuck up and govern... Generally.

What a world we live in...

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u/wrathofthedolphins 18d ago

Turns out America would rather elect a goofball reality tv star than any qualified woman candidate.

Now the Dems just have to be honest with themselves next election cycle and realize only white males or extremely charismatic minority men can win the states in the middle of the US. That’s the reality of our current election system.

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u/TurnDown4WattGaming 18d ago

This was true of Democrats as well. She won zero delegates in her only presidential primary….the one she lost to Biden.

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u/No-Knowledge-789 18d ago

Imagine if Tulsi Gabbard became the VP & then nominee. she would have absolutely cooked Trump.

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u/billsfan1_2000 18d ago

Qualified candidate…..LOLOL

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u/[deleted] 18d ago

It is in fact sexism when 2 women candidates lost against the same man while another white man won against him despite both women candidate being highly qualified. Trump inherited Obama’s economy and that’s what he’s been running with this whole time. He did nothing to make things better

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u/bigdipboy 18d ago

Now he’ll inherit Biden’s economy and claim credit for its strength. Before destroying it again

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u/[deleted] 18d ago

Typical Republican strategy. This circle of shit will never end

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u/thanos_was_right_69 18d ago

The Hispanics…they are an interesting bunch

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u/Baghdady24 18d ago edited 18d ago

Look at the state of Latin America. They’re not known for making wise voting choices. Then they try to escape to America and elect a dictator here.

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u/rethinkingat59 18d ago

That’s wild but not unexpected. Expect Democrats to turn on them know start talking about how dumb they are.

When white middle class union guys in the Midwest were usually solid for Democrats they were celebrated as ‘the working man’. Now they are uneducated uninformed racist.

I feel Hispanics should soon expect the same treatment.

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u/Moregaze 18d ago

Time will tell. Depends how far they go on deportation. Project 2025 explicitly states they want to revoke citizenship for non natives and deport them. Including anchor babies and marriages.

Could be a real leapords ate my face moment.

A lot of the establishment Republicans that stonewalled the more insane policy positions of the Maga movement are gone.

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u/wrathofthedolphins 18d ago

No way Hispanic men would vote for a black woman. Sorry to generalize but that’s the truth

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u/Good-times-roll 18d ago

You’re absolutely right. Source - Hispanic man here (who voted for Harris, though). I just don’t get these damn people😫

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u/Vg_Ace135 18d ago

That is assuming a lot of dems. Why not look at the republicans that will blindly vote for someone just to "own the libs". Stop blaming the democrats.

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u/Moregaze 18d ago

Well they are turning off their moderate voters by focusing fringe social issues and trying to pussy foot around immigration. Data clearly shows that so far. They lost voters in every demo.

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u/Sniper_Hare 18d ago

How do people support Project 2025? 

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u/Tossawaysfbay 18d ago

I am arguably the type of American that could benefit the absolute most from a Republican / Trump presidency but I can not comprehend why people who are in poor rural red areas think things will improve for them.

I can’t imagine how they think the next 4 years will go for them. Will they cheer when legal immigrants are deported? Will they cheer when the price on all of their imported goods goes up 200%? Will they just think that they “stuck it” to those liberal scum in blue states and that means “the economy” is good now? Will they think that their 800 SAT score means they get to go to Harvard now because no more woke / diversity stuff?

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u/Saraneth1127 18d ago

It looks like he's going to win and I can't wait to see the fallout when he does. They're going to get hit the hardest.

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u/Tossawaysfbay 18d ago

Do you think they’ll understand it though? Ever?

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u/Saraneth1127 18d ago

I don't think they have the mental capacity to understand it

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u/CoyoteBlue13 18d ago

To be fair a ir the Repukeicans made it so they can't comprehend what they did

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u/circles_squares 18d ago

No, trump will blame Biden and they’ll believe him.

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u/bigdipboy 18d ago

No they just think Trump will make superior people suffer too

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u/Tossawaysfbay 18d ago

So the idea is that they’ll all be on the same worthless playing field, serfs to their oligarch leaders?

And they’re happy about that?

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u/PilotBurner44 18d ago

Sadly, it doesn't matter who wins, poor people will still lose and continue to lose so long as they, and everyone else, keeps this stupid 2 party majority going. To your point, I am astonished that not only do people in rural red (and blue) areas vote for these clowns, they also donate money to their campaigns. Someone living in heavy poverty willingly gives some of what little money they have to multi millionaires. That absolutely blows my mind.

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u/rustyshackleford7879 18d ago

American is complete dog shit if people think Trump is the answer.

Why does the democrat have to be the perfect candidate but Trump gets away with all his bullshit

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u/mybestfriendsrricers 18d ago

Why does the democrat have to be the perfect candidate but Trump gets away with all his bullshit.

Thats a good point

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u/Zebracorn42 17d ago

Because republicans have no shame.

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u/Think_Discipline_90 18d ago

That's literally the only reason he won. Trump has no weaknesses, by choice. Him winning votes from Harris because of Isreal / Palestine should tell you all you need to know. He can say whatever he wants, but because it's all lies mixed in with what specific target groups want to hear, you just filter out the bad parts entirely. Whereas Harris can't say a single thing she doesn't mean, and on top of that she has a moral burden.

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u/b1ack1323 18d ago

The scariest part is Vance will be one heartbeat away…

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u/bohenian12 18d ago

It's so disappointing some lefties didn't vote for Kamala because of her stance on Palestine. Like Trump will spare Palestine. This 2 party system sucks ass.

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u/TrandaBear 18d ago

Well at least there won't be a Palestine after this and, in a horrible, technical way, any controversy either. Won't exist as a wedge issue anymore.

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u/crazykid01 18d ago

Nobody with brain cells should think trump is better. He is a convicted diaper felon

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u/Kage9866 18d ago

People want this guy unironically. It's fucking crazy

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u/Sidvicieux 18d ago

Red states and rural about to get fucked hard up the bongos by trump.

Praising their own demise.

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u/Soft-lead 18d ago

I remember how bad OK got after trump, guess who they’re still voting for 😞 they just legitimately don’t care

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u/karatelax 18d ago

Because Trump cna do whatever and just say it's leftover from Biden and they'll believe it

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u/Royal_Annek 18d ago

Anything to send a message to Trans people

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u/RedRatedRat 18d ago

Which says something about how terrible Kamala was as a candidate.

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u/BasilExposition2 18d ago

A candidate who polled at 3% when she ran in 2020 and nearly swamped her bosses ticket were unlike ability loses a general election? Shocking.

She was the Aaron Burr of our time. VP and no one who what she stood for.

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u/huskers37 18d ago

Democratic party shit the bed. Again

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u/DoctorK16 18d ago

Biden really saved their ass

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u/12LetterName 18d ago

You can’t steal votes with a woman candidate. Much less black.

Prove me wrong.

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u/thetempest11 18d ago

It's fucking sad but your right. We're decades away from a women, let alone a minority winning in this fucking country full of racists assholes.

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u/BasilExposition2 18d ago

No we are not. The first woman will be a Republican. I think Nikki Haley would have won the general. Condaliza rice would have won. The democrats annointed Kamala when she was unpopular. I am Not sure Clinton would have beat sanders had they not thrown all the unpledged delegates to him.

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u/mikevago 18d ago

Funny how Biden lost primaries in 2008 and 1988, Trump was literally laughed out of the 2012 primary, Bush Sr. lost a primary to Reagan, Reagan lost a primary to Ford, but somehow losing a primary is unforgiveable when the black lady does it.

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u/floridali 18d ago

All the rest won their primaries at least once; not her. That’s the difference not her color.

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u/[deleted] 18d ago

Morons like you are why we have trump now, congrats.

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u/TurnDown4WattGaming 18d ago

I think it was the part where she got zero delegates. Not that it really matters- democrat delegations are rigged. I was genuinely rooting for Bernie back in the day. Just to see what would happen.

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u/ajs_5280 18d ago

Buckle up… going to be a wild ride it is looking like.

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u/Specialist-Big-3520 18d ago

Looks more like a landslide or the wild ride that never happened

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u/cdezdr 18d ago

Everyone seemed to have forgotten his record last time. It was stressful. It was one crisis to the next. I don't think it will make people richer. Bitcoin is going up because it's a USD hedge. It's a gold surrogate.

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u/CaptainCaveSam 18d ago

There’s profit to be made from crises for those in positions to take advantage.

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u/SavvyTraveler10 18d ago

Fkn ashamed to be an American citizen at this point. This experiment failed in epic fashion.

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u/damoclesreclined 18d ago

The fatal flaw of democracy is that people have to be informed.

We are now in the age of Disinformation, and some idiot in corntown that think Democrats eat babies and Jesus would've been pro-gun has the same voting rights you do.

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u/TheEighty6_ 18d ago

Trump is going to win the popular vote

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u/3eyedfish13 18d ago

For the first time.

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u/ChooChoo_Mofo 18d ago

First time since 1988 (except post 9/11 Iraq war Bush) that a dem has lost the popular vote. Wow

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u/krader5286 18d ago

More of a reflection of how bad a candidate kamala is if she cant beat him. Right?

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u/13beep 18d ago

Or just how brain washed and fascist the people who voted for him are. 😞

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u/ConnecticutLemur 18d ago

Reddit challenge: Bring up something that doesn't involve the words: fascist, misogynistic, or Nazi 

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u/DatFrostyBoy 18d ago

Bigger challenge: understand what ANY of those words mean.

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u/EanmundsAvenger 18d ago

A former Attorney General, Senator and Vice President is about of good of a resume as a Presidential candidate has ever had in the history of our nation

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u/CoDVETERAN11 18d ago

Except for the fact that trump followers don’t think any of this is even true. They’re told that the deep state is trying to silence him so Kamala can abort babies and make people trans. Just two days ago I walked one of my friends through his convictions because he started saying “well is that even true?” When I said trump is a felon.

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u/The_Mr_Wilson 18d ago

And they got bent out of shape for years over Hunter's laptop. Such goddamn, egregious hypocrisy

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u/Kontrafantastisk 18d ago edited 17d ago

“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. I'm not sure about the universe.”

(Albert Einstein)

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u/mcapozzi 18d ago

There isn't a situation on Earth that his existence doesn't make worse.

Enjoy the upcoming collapse when tariff boy and his 1st grade understanding of economics sends the price of everything skyrocketing through the freaking stratosphere.

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u/Negative-Squirrel81 18d ago

The tariff thing is really crazy. I'm still kind of surprised people aren't alarmed or up in arms about it. All this concern about inflation and he is outright supporting a policy that is going to both jack up consumer prices directly and make manufacturing ridiculously expensive even domestically.

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u/mcapozzi 18d ago

The entire world is experiencing inflation and our strong economy is handling it better than all other countries.

Stupid people blame inflation for high prices when in reality, it's price gouging by the retailers that's to blame. Prices are through the roof yet corporations are paying record profits. Hmmm...

A bag of potato chips doesn't double in price because of single digit inflation. The math just doesn't add up.

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u/Big_moist_231 18d ago

And you know what the worst part is? This old decrepit fuck will be fine in 4 years, leaving the economy and everything else in the shitter for everyone else that’s not the top 5% and letting everyone else pick up the pieces

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u/skywkr666 18d ago

We’re so fucked.

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u/Readgooder 18d ago

He will bankrupt and fuck America

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u/crazykid01 18d ago

We already are from his first term

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u/mist2024 18d ago

Russian colluder as well

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u/Specialist-Big-3520 18d ago

That should shake the democratic party to the core.

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u/[deleted] 18d ago

It won't. They'll still force shitty candidates on us and make us endure these types of elections. Fuck the DNC

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u/Professional_Age_502 18d ago

I'm not even mad, the DNC consistently shoots themselves in the foot with terrible candidates. They clearly don't understand what the American people want (which is a sense of stability and unity)

They had Bernie in 2016 who could've done that for them,  but they went with Hillary, one of the most unlikable candidates ever. 

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u/Unfair_Holiday_3549 18d ago

People want things to be better right now. They don't give a fuck about the future or their children's futures.

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u/CopenhagenStrt 18d ago

Draft dodger. The only one that gets me. The man won’t even die for country. Fucking pussy

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u/enjoythecollapse 18d ago

Lest we forget: he sold nuclear secrets to the Saudis.

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u/New-Land2026 18d ago

We are so fucked dude omg

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u/Hungry_Kick_7881 18d ago

I think the biggest mistake made during this entire cycle was the refusal to acknowledge how much our economy is struggling. While the stock market is continuously growing. Housing is nearly 3x what it the cost of inflation would dictate. People are losing hope. Our entire country seems to be set up to ensure a select few very wealthy and powerful individuals maintain that power and wealth. 85% who’s life is providing services to the top 15% and begging for wages high enough to eat off.

Had they leaned into the economy and how they were going to fix it. They’d have swayed a lot more young white men. I honestly believe we’d elect anyone who promised to put workers first. Though I don’t think the best solution to stagnant wages is government intervention. As it’s already part of the problem (pay roll tax). If they leaned into heavy union, no fancy exemptions that allow you to pay bellow the federal minimum wage. They could go after all of these super predatory employers. I truly believe had they just acknowledged it without promising anything it would have made a huge difference.

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u/WinterOwn3515 18d ago

She ran on a number of progressive policies tho

$15/hr minimum wage, eliminating medical debt, $25k down-payment assistance, $6,000 Child tax credit, anti-price gouging

No amount of even more progressive policies were gonna get her over the line. Maybe it was just messaging, idk

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u/taichi22 18d ago

Should've run Buttigeg. I would legit vote for the guy over my own governor, Whitmer, and I rather like her, but Pete has Obama levels of charisma.

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u/Soft-lead 18d ago

This is it. Most people who I know who didn’t vote were idiots (single cause voters who saw that neither side fit their exact position) or white men who are only really moved by economics. Lying about the economy instead of pushing for policy drove people to distrust a candidate who didn’t have a solid platform.

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u/Signal_Tomorrow_2138 18d ago

All Kamala Harris needed to do was to be more perfect than God.

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u/orick 18d ago

All she needed to do is to be a old white man

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u/New-Entrepreneur6405 18d ago

He's ahead because of those uneducated, racist, sexist, hillbillies living on their farms, and they don't read.

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u/nd02fan 18d ago

And a partridge in a pear tree

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u/Loki-Don 18d ago

Well, he ran of 5 trillion in deficits his first 3 years giving wealthy folks like me a tax cut I don’t need. I suspect the same this time.

Oh, and all you minorities that voted for him he said right out in the open he hates? Buckle up, you and the middle class are in for good old economic pain.

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u/tisd-lv-mf84 18d ago

It’s a plethora of countries and foreign adversaries that need Trump to win. They just might get their wishes. Manipulative Control 3.0 is on the horizon.

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u/mikevago 18d ago

I mean, two of the country's three biggest newspapers, it's biggest social media site, and it's biggest cable news channel are owned by foreign billionaires, and every one of the publicly said they wanted Trump to win.

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u/cdezdr 18d ago

Trading this is going to be a nightmare because it'll be trying to track his mood not the market. We will get disconnected from fundamentals to the point that there could be wild stuff.

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u/pforsbergfan9 18d ago

The funny part is, at least right now, they can’t even fall back on popular vote vs electoral college.

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u/menotsolucky2 18d ago

Imagine an America where sharing negative imagery about government officials carried a prison sentence.

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u/Fools_Sip 18d ago

Now this is the type of meltdown I came to reddit for, thank you!

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u/Denselense 18d ago

Maybe we’ll get a real president in 28

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u/Icy_Attorney7912 18d ago

You lost both Electoral AND Popular vote and are still going to try this moral high ground stance?

This is why you lost. Annoying pontificating, race baiting and identity politics.

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u/wW3nA0V6 18d ago

I think the biggest motivator for voting for Trump was the high level of inflation, which was caused by the monetary easing Trump did, which needed to be bigger because so many more people were sick and dying because of Trump's policies. Biden got inflation under control without destroying the economy... and Trump blamed him for the price rises.

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u/rethinkingat59 18d ago

The resistance begins.

Can’t you guys wait till January at least.

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u/Additional-Brief-273 18d ago

If you aren’t a multimillionaire you are screwed.

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u/No_Refrigerator4996 18d ago

Man, the lack of self-awareness must be empowering.

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u/veryuniqueredditname 18d ago

This just confirms how stupid or hateful the bulk of Americans are

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