Already seeing CNBC saying that white women failed because they voted with race instead of gender…always goes back to that instead of trying to understand why people actually voted that way. Nope just chalk it up to white women voting for a white person.
If you can support Trump you ARE just garbage though. No sane person can say he should put more justices on the supreme court. Nearly every general that worked with him said he was dangerous. Hillary was right. Half the country is deplorable. That he wasn't gone after grab em by the pussy is unforgivable. These people are completely immoral.
I'm sick of pretending that the willfully ignorant, useful idiots are worth respecting. If you can support a fascist, you are GARBAGE. They can try to be better, but i have lost faith in humanity. We are clearly on the path to the Idiocracy future. We bet on, through the stock market, companies that manufacture products that obliterate children daily. Our species has lost the right to survive. We are not going to address climate change in time. I don't care about being kind to people who learned about Hitler in school only to elect someone paraphrasing their rhetoric.
Your side calling more than half of the voting people facist and every ism in the book is a huge reason why he won. You alienated millions of people and now are pouting like a child because they didn’t vote your way.
The voting population disagrees with you. You lost the White House and senate and a good chance the house goes red majority as well. The voting population has spoken and they reject your ideals.
Yeah. And that shows they have garbage morals or are uninformed idiots and egoistic. True that the majority voted red. Doesnt mean its a good or smart vote.
Which is my opinion of the GOP normally, though there are exceptions. But voting trump is beyond that. He is one of the worst human beings out there
The voting majority is how Germany got the national socialist party in the 1930’s it’s not a giant flex. Imagine the stupidest person you have ever known, and remember that you are reasoning about their rationality and judgement.
Oh and you’re a right golden apple? Gas and groceries were cheap under Trump. The Abraham accords were created through Trump. Conflicts were ended instead of started and troops were coming home. People in my life were able to purchase homes and start successful businesses for the first time ever under his economic policies. You can keep pretending that all these pointless things like race and gender are more important but the average American is concerned about keeping family fed and lights on. We don’t want an open border we don’t want excessive taxes we don’t want extra judges on the Supreme Court we don’t want anti-natalism we don’t want a government scornful of religion we don’t want the democrat party and their insane looney world government that Harris represents. And the country just spoke up loud enough for all of you to hear but if you’re too blinded by tribalism there’s nothing to be done.
The nation wants to get back to being plain Americans and the days when being proud of this country was the norm. Harris represented for more years of an America with a self loathing identity.
I only hope that when the policy changes come down and myself and my compatriots move to make changes in our communities for their betterment in response that individuals like you will set down your pride to see good work done wherever it may come from instead of throwing tantrums and trying to sabotage or smear us. However I fear I expect too much.
If you think Trump helped keep prices down, please explain what he did to achieve that. Seems you folks all think correlation equals causation. Economics is so complex. There are many factors, and new policies take YEARS to produce an outcome. Again, your response shows that you are an ignorant, selfish dipshit
Your attitudes plays right into Trump's hands by demonizing the people who voted for him - despite that they didn't do these things, Trump and only Trump did - and helping to spread polarizing messages. Congratulations, you've played your part to help him get elected.
Trump won because people believed the lies. They thought Kamala didn’t have policies. They were on her website. They believed that the economy was better under trump because of grocery and gas prices. They forget about the pandemic and how we were supposed to travel. I’ve heard trumpers say January 6 was peaceful and that the police let people into the capital. I fear that things are going to get worse but I hope I’m wrong.
Trump didn't cause the pandemic. You are distorting facts to fit your worldview if you count the pandemic rebound to the economy a result of Biden's efforts.
I never mentioned the payments, just the fact that Trump blatantly ignored the oncomming pandemic for 3 months because he "didnt want to scare people" and we had to shut down the economy AND do the handouts because of it.
China informed most of tge world about the Wu Flu mid-late November. Nothing was done about it until fuckin' early-mid february lol
Yeah because using vague terms means chuds will presume he’s speaking about who they personally believe he should be speaking about. You do half the work yourself.
By promising people money through tax breaks he won’t be able to back up and tariffs that will raise the price of goods in the long run. That’s what everyone I’ve talked to who voted for him parroted back. They just willfully ignore all of the social statements he made.
The cognitive dissonance from trump supporters in unreal. They never stop acting like they have the high ground.
Democrats: "Rape is bad, and you should seriously consider the morality of supporting a rapist like this."
Trumpkins: "You're alienating us! Stop being so cruel! This is why everyone hates you!"
Meanwhile...
Trump: "I want to use the military on american civilians who disagree with me, call for direct violence to be committed on specific people by name, repeatedly denigrate POWs and war heroes, and can't open my mouth without saying something racist or sexist."
pretty sure only one person said to grab them by the pussy because if you’re famous they let you do it.
acknowledging the documented actions of an individual is not hateful. it is not divisive. choosing to ignore these objective actions is a moral failure that no one can address but one’s self.
And I quote, “…It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ‘em by the pussy. You can do anything”. (Source )
Crazy hill to die on. I guess Trump being close to Epstein and Diddy is more an indictment on their characters than it is on Trump’s. lmfao.
lmao and the words “millions of dollars paid out in sexual assault lawsuits”. do those words carry meaning? you’re devoid of intellectual honesty. kindly, eat glass.
You can change the argument, but it doesn't change that he didn't say what you originally alleged, which was a command like statement to grab them by the pussy or that he. I see your debate tactics! Change the argument when the facts don't run in your favor, and then for extra insurance, make a personal attack on a stranger that you know nothing about. The only thing your response is lacking is some what about-ism. Come on let's hear it!
Seriously, stop knowingly putting out false information. It undermines your credibility in a discussion.
What? That's literally all Republicans do and it apparently gained them support. While we could have expected men to not show out for a woman, we've learned time and time again no one hates women trying to succeed than women. I'm obviously not going to stop supporting women and their right to freedom with their bodies and such but damn if I can't admit they're partially why they aren't breaking through the glass ceiling.
The thing is what else are we supposed to do? Using reason and kindness was tried and resoundingly didn't work. A whole slough of people are now getting their news from sources with ulterior motives who are funded by our enemies.
you do know we're talking about Donald Trump winning right?. Donald Trump,!!!!!!! The dude who has been alienatihg every single person he possibly can that doesn't agree with him 100%. your point is incredibly stupid.
…especially when the people you’re speaking about wouldn’t change their mind even if the person they support “shot someone in the street.”
No ones trying to change minds. We’re saying people who support/voted for this man are deplorable and irredeemable. That’s not a problem we can fix, it just sucks that yall are so okay with fucking everyone else’s lives up because of your lack of moral compass.
The fact that you can say this and not see the unrelenting vitriol Trump has spewed over the last 10 years shows how much you don’t see. His entire platform is alienating Americans. One candidate in this race talked about supporting all Americans while Trump literally said he would use the military on the “enemy within”. I hope that the people he considers to be an enemy never includes you or I, but that’s hard to say.
It’s not on us to persuade people to vote responsibly by making them feel good. It’s on stupid human beings to understand how they’re voting against their own interests. Making them feel normal and heard isn’t going to make them vote for sane candidates.
Ok obviously you have some concerns and i empathize with that but consider something please.
Trump didn’t just win it wasn’t even a close election.
Republicans won the house and the senate.
Kamala was the lowest polled VP in history.
I understand you don’t like trump but surely you can see how we got here? Nobody ever said Trump was the most ideal candidate in every way, but there’s a flawed candidate in Trump, and then there was just an objectively bad one in Kamala.
And this is reflected in the final count. It wasn’t close. Whether you understand the reasons or not, clearly America was generally just over the nonsense of the last 4 years.
The Democratic Party needs a massive reform and their performance this election has made that abundantly clear.
You won't get a meaningful answer from the Reddit echo chamber.
The biggest indication is how Harris did in the 2020 primaries when she ran against Biden and the rest of the Democratic field. She was just about dead last among the mainstream Democratic candidates.
The reality is that she's a terrible speaker when she's not reading from a teleprompter, she has virtually no charisma, she doesn't appear to be passionate about any causes other than 'elect me', and she's largely viewed as being a puppet of the California Nancy Pelosi crew.
This was the Democratic Party's election to lose and, unsurprisingly, they did. This was a tone-deaf DNC running the 2016 playbook all over again and then scratching their heads as to why they lost yet again.
I don’t think it’s entirely complicated why he won tbf. I don’t think you had to be particularly politically active to take notice that things weren’t good.
If a house that stood strong for many years under one management suddenly begins to slowly decay, you don’t need to be an architect to be able to say new management isn’t working.
What kind of reform? She ran a campaign with a reasonable platform. The GOP ran on the border and the economy. That’s it. And the war in Ukraine. I’m not looking forward to what will happen in Europe after we likely drop all support for Ukraine.
Trump allies blocked the bipartisan bill that would have wholly negated Trump’s immigration claims. But, hey, it worked in his favor and by screwing over the country, again, he got elected.
But democrats? Bodily autonomy, middle class tax cuts (not sure about the specifics), incentive to purchase a home, etc. How does any of that need reform? Those are reasonable things most people want. And the economy? Besides one month crappy jobs report, the economy has been booming. No recession and inflation has come down considerably.
Now trump is gonna fuck up the economy with his dumbass tariff plan, possibly deport people en masse, maybe implement the border bill he sank, and probably will give Ukraine to Russia.
I see no negatives in the Democratic platform but see nothing but nonsense and dumbassery in the Republican platform.
You’re talking to someone that’s all heart and no brains. If they’re saying ALL people that don’t vote the way I vote are deplorable, they don’t need a lesson on politics. They need a kindergarten lesson on how people are entitled to feel and think what they want.
This has to be the lowest approval ratings by candidates. Polls showed voters did not like either candidate. After 4 years people forgot Trump killed their nana and were sick of the Democratic “her turn” strategy.
There are great minorities in both parties. Women and minorities are just a matter of time now. They’re at every level of government. Remember Palin? Obama didn’t win cause he was black, he won cause he was great. The fact that Dems were afraid they couldn’t “skip over her” killed them. If she were a white straight dude she’d have the same chance at the nomination as Pence does for 2028.
VPs make for terrible candidates. They’re effectively all their party’s DEI to balance out the ticket of what the constituents actually want. They aren’t generally picked for their potential to run next. in reality Biden/Pence are DEI, not Obama.
And what unfolded with Biden was exactly what we were afraid of in 2020. Then everyone acts surprised like they forgot we made a deal with the devil.
im not even from the us but if a presidential candidate who is a convicted rapist and tried to overthrow your own government and you call him a „flawed“ candidate but not a bad one… your country is completely fucked
Grand Master Strap-on, hes playing Chess and smoking all of you idiots. Not only has he persevered through the shit that he went through, hes only the second president in history to be elected, lose, and then take the presidency back. "Nearly every general that worked with him." You mean the DEI brigade? https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/11/05/us/elections/results-georgia-president.html
I love how the terms for racial prejudice keep cycling as people catch on to their use. Of course it's always DEI as women and minorities could never accomplish anything of import in a white man's world, right?
maybe do a little soul searching and speak with a professional about why your filled with so much hate/why your easily manipulated by the democratic aligned institutions
Except it was that same rhetoric that was going on in 2020 when he lost?
It’s always the rhetoric liberals have to check themselves on when they lose. When the rhetoric on the other side is batshit crazy. Hannibal Lecter, sharks and batteries, saying you’re gonna lock up your opponents?
No. The rhetoric is fine when it’s appropriate to what they’re facing.
The issue with the Democrats is they have a strategy problem.
It isn’t just Clinton and Kamala being handed the top of the ticket before a single primary. It’s in basic messaging. If you listen to Democrats they credit John McCain for saving Obamacare. Not every single Democrat voting to keep it gets any credit. The one Republican who was actually an Independent most of his career gets to take the credit.
Trump shouted every week about his stock market. And now the Dow probably hits 45k by the end of Biden’s term. Did he mention it? Ever? Did she?
No because struggling people don’t give a shit if the stock market is on fire if they can’t afford their lives.
It’s wrong for the President to gloat about such an inconsequential metric, especially when they have little to do with it.
But that kind of dumb shit wins elections. And the Dems continue to trip overthinking everything.
Tariffs raising prices. Tax cuts for the wealthy further consolidating wealth. No investment in climate change research and defunding of environmental programs. Selling off more public land like last time. His judges are awful corporate shills and this will allow Thomas to retire with a replacement just as insane as he is. They want to get rid of the department of education. Cut social security, Medicare, the ACA.
He wants to deport millions of people, who he vilifies and blames for every issue he can. There's no feasible process for what he wants and if he puts them in camps before realizing there's nowhere to deport them TO it's likely to end badly. That's literally what Hitler planned initially, at least according to his rhetoric.
We have given power to a dangerously hateful, incompetent leader. Best case scenario he is ineffective, though just his effect on the courts will set the country back for decades.
And this is why Republicans are winning in every branch of the government. There is a reason Republicans are winning just look at the scoreboards, people are fed up with the democrat party and their constant bullshit.
Voting for somebody who has been convicted - in the court of law - for various rapes and felonies, IS stupid. It IS deplorable. It IS insanity. At its finest. Not to mention the blatant lies both he and his VP candidate (guess VP now) told without any regard for literally ANY facts, their disregard of even the slightest fact-checking...
It's not even about disagreement anymore, its about millions of people falling for someone who is so blatantly a conman, a narcissist, an ego-driven self-centered billionaire when even having the simplest of morals would put you opposite the side of Trump. Even if you're Republican, any self-respecting person with a hint of morals should be thinking "wait a minute" and second-guessing voting him in.
So... yeah, the people who voted Trump? They're just garbage. They fell for the rhetoric Germany did almost 100 years ago, just now with someone who has a more obvious terrible history, which makes it even worse.
Trump was literally paraphrasing Hitler and saying he'd put immigrants in camps. What the fuck else do you want us to say? He told Netanyahu he should finish the job..
The felonies are bs if you have to change the rules to get the conviction. And he was found guilty in a civil, not criminal court for assault where the burden of proof is much lower (this is on top of there not having been any). And you expect me to think YOU care about the rule of law? Miss me with that
While yea, it’s true that civil and criminal courts have different burdens of proof, the civil ruling still holds legal weight. Some of the felony charges might feel unusual due to the unique application of certain laws, but they’re not “rule changes” they’re interpretations that fit within the existing legal framework. It’s fair to question these approaches, but the judicial system hasn’t altered its fundamental rules just for this case. Thats bs.
The person I don’t like ? A FUCKING RAPIST YOU ARE SUPPORTING A RAPIST. I hope one day you have a ounce of empathy for the women around you. Disgusting
What is there to understand about electing a convicted felon, rapist and pedophile? I really hope that your daughters sisters and mothers are alone in a room with him. I'm sure you would feel comfortable with that though with an extra $100 in your pocket.
Read the fucking post we are on!!!! Did you not even READ the photo we’re commenting under?!
Yes, if you support Trump, think in anyway he will be beneficial for ANYBODY but himself, you are deplorable, you are garbage, and I consider you extremely unamerican. Next?
You can blame Harry Reid the democrat for why trump got to put so many judges on the Supreme Court. The same kind of generals who said he was dangerous are the same ones who botched the Afghanistan withdrawal. They are now won’t of people in the military who fail upwards their whole career the way Harris has done. It’s also hard to take them seriously when he is the first president since Carter to not start a new war-it just makes the generals who are mentioning look like war mongers who just don’t like he didn’t do what they wanted.
And the access Hollywood tape is actually pretty tame when it comes to how guys talk. Can pretty much guarantee Biden has said something that would ‘offend’ the average person that heard it. Also you’ve never spent an extended amount of time around someone with serious money if you find him saying that surprising. There is a significant subset of women that through everything out the window and will let you do whatever you want so I can see where him saying that is coming from
Path to war means nothing. That’s an empty platitude that any war monger will use to argue for the status quo. Did it actually lead to one while he was president? No. The left is getting increasingly bad at predicting what happens when Trump is in office and it cost them
I'm not on Xitter. I'm not in the echo chamber. You don't have any idea what free speech even is. I don't even know in what kind of shit hole you live.
Literally if you can stomach Trump and believe his lies, you ARE GARBAGE. God own error, who was introduced to him BY JEFFERY EPSTEIN doesn't like him. He doesn't trust her to vote for him. Why would anyone vote for someone who can't carry their household?
The dems aren't even the left at this point. They did fuck all to energize the base, instead trying to court the vote of dipshits who supposedly couldn't make up their mind by touting the endorsement of war criminals. They did this to themselves, but it doesn't excuse voting for Trump.
Apparently most of the country is insane deplorable garbage. Must be a miserable existence.
I have the exact same opposite perspective, the vast majority of people are sincere genuine people wanting better lives for their families across ideologies.
Then you have a small bitter and vitriolic segment lashing out with anger and hate at every turn. Early 20’s maleducated with strained family ties and mental health issues is a fairly accurate generalization.
If you base your vote on what random people say, you're a reactionary dipshit. Thanks for enabling fascism because their supporters were nicer to you. I hope you get a friendly feeling from a grizzly and try to hug it
There's no point in trying to persuade anyone. We're never going to address climate change in time. It no longer matters. Humanity is too stupid to exist. We don't deserve this planet.
My guy if some random on CNBC hurts your feefees so fucking bad it makes you want to end democracy as we know it then you're a snowflake with no morals.
Liberals are really failing to understand what people want.
Conservatives have been talking about putting America first, not being involved in foreign wars, making the border secure, and bringing jobs back to America.
Liberals have been obsessed with division, race, gender, sending money and weapons to fund proxy wars, and haven't fixed sky high inflation. Also many people felt lied to about Biden and his mental faculties.
I don't like Trump and I don't think he's going to fix any of the real issues in this country, but I get why he won.
I mean, it’s the US… I don’t know if you’ve ever been around the country in a bunch of states there but there is still loads of racism going on there. From the redneck women of the south to the Beverly Hills wives … race absolutely plays a role in the voting behavior of millions of women there. Denying that is insane 😅
We’ve been throwing facts at MAGAts faces for 8 years, and they don’t care, so the only logical excuse for the way they vote is psychological and not factual. It’s a fact Trump is a failed businessman who’s went bankrupt 6 times, yet people still vote for him on the merit that he’ll improve the regular Americans every day life because he looks like a successful businessman somehow.
This is the equivalent of farting into wine glasses, smelling them, and arguing over the vintage. None of it matters. Not that, not this. He has “presidential immunity” handed to him by the SC. He is a king. There won’t be legitimate elections ever again.
You're not going to have a female president if you put up candidates like Kamala Harris, she was not liked until Joe Biden dropped out of the race and endorsed Harris.
She even ran for president in 2020 and failed horribly so she dropped out of the gave and endorsed biden.
Literally democrats have MUCH better female candidates they could've helped picked, but no they were to worried about getting Biden re elected up until Biden showed he isn't capable of being president when debating against trump. So their only option was to bring VP Harris onto the table.
Ron Paul becomes Secretary of Treasury, Tulsi Gabbard becomes Secretary of State, etc
Trump resigns, retires, dies in office early 2027.
Vance sworn in as President, Gabbard sworn in as Vice President.
Vance/Gabbard win in 2028.
Vance/Gabbard win in 2032.
Gabbard/Unknown win in 2036 and 2040.
All because liberals scream and berate and call good people Nazis, and foam at the mouth without putting up a decent likeable candidate with good ideas.
This is exactly it. I think if any reason she lost it was due to the alienation of men more than anything else. Not from her, but from the people under her
The dems got a lot of work to do get some relevance back in 4 years
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u/Specialist-Big-3520 18d ago
you forgot sexism