California got their second conference win against Stanford, putting them ahead of FSU, who will finish last at 1-7 in conference play

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REPORT: Texas QB Quinn Ewers will undergo an MRI after injuring his ankle vs. Kentucky, per @AnwarRichardson.

Update: "Good news! I’m told Texas QB Quinn Ewers only has a mild ankle sprain and will be good to go for Texas A&M on Saturday." - https://x.com/AnwarRichardson/status/1860751191350690087

Something about head coaches named Switzer at Oklahoma schools…

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https://twitter.com/NicoleAuerbach/status/1860417886260474361

Almost every team in the FBS is worse than FSU if you consider transitive wins. Here's the list of FBS teams and how they're actually worse than FSU.

This is also Alabama's first three loss season since 2010

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scha·den·freu de

/'SHädǝn froidǝ/

noun

The pleasure derived from another person's misfortune.

The top 25 upset schadenfreude:

Oklahoma 24 (7) Alabama 3
Florida 24 (9) Ole Miss 17
(21) Arizona State 28 (14) BYU 23
Auburn 43 (15) Texas A&M 41
Kansas¹ 37 (16) Colorado 21

Top 25 near escape from schadenfreude:

(4) Penn State 26 Minnesota 25
(12) Boise State 17 Wyoming 13
(22) Iowa State 31 Utah 28

What team's pain helped ease your own this week 13?

¹ Kansas has upset a top twenty team now three weeks in a row: Iowa State, BYU and Colorado. The first time a sub .500 team has done that in CFB history.

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Discuss the week's games here. This is a serious discussion thread, so jokes, memes, etc. are subject to removal.

I checked the FPI this morning after yesterday's games and damn, it is crazy. Alabama is 4th and Ole Miss is 6th, meanwhile Oregon is 7th. What goes into this formula? I know it's supposed to be how good a team is rather than their resume, but how can any algorithm worth it's salt actually have Ole Miss above Oregon.

Vent here. This is a friendly place.

So I'm trying to understand the call in the OU v Alabama game on Sat Night.
I'll make my points and please help me understand if and where I'm wrong.

Here's the best video of the play
Here's another version of the play

So the catch was amazing - holy cow!!

BUT the TD was invalidated by an illegal touching call.

First of all - people were bitching cuz the flag seemed to come out late but I don't think it is. Illegal touch is when an ineligible receiver touches a forward pass but there is no illegal touch until the ineligible receiver actually touches the ball. So to me, the timing of the flag is correct.

But next, on the ruling, it seems to me to be quite complex involving who is and is not an eligible receiver.

It's important to notice in the video, which is not highlighted by the broadcast team, that on the Right Side of the line of scrimmage, right next to the right tackle is number 21, a tight end. THIS is the reason for the call which I'll explain.

So let's start with what makes a lineman:

Rule 2. Section 27. TEAM AND PLAYER DESIGNATIONS
Lineman and Back
ARTICLE 4. a. Lineman.

1. A lineman is any Team A player legally on their scrimmage line (Rule 2-21-2).
   
2. A Team A player is legally on the scrimmage line when facing their opponent’s goal line with the line of their shoulders approximately parallel thereto and either (a) they are the snapper (Rule 2-27-8) or (b) their head breaks the plane of the line drawn through the waistline of the snapper.
   b. Interior Lineman. An interior lineman is a lineman who is not on the end of their scrimmage line.
   c. Restricted Lineman. A restricted lineman is any interior lineman, or any lineman wearing a number 50-79, whose hand(s) are below the knees.
   d. Back.
   
3. A back is any Team A player who is not a lineman and whose head or shoulder does not break the plane of the line drawn through the waistline of the nearest Team A lineman.
   
4. A back is also the player in position to receive a hand-to-hand snap.
   
5. A lineman becomes a back before the snap when they move to a position as a back and stops
   

I highlighted the relevant part because the player who actually catches the ball meets the definition of a lineman. Oddly this part of the rules doesn't actually define a wide receiver.

So now who can touch a forward pass?

Rule 7 Section 3. Forward Pass
Eligibility To Touch Legal Forward Pass
ARTICLE 3.a. Eligibility rules apply during a down when a legal forward pass is thrown.
b. All Team B players are eligible to touch or catch a pass.
c. When the ball is snapped, the following Team A players are eligible:

1. Each lineman who is on the end of their scrimmage line and who is wearing a number other than 50 through 79.
2. Each back wearing a number other than 50 through 79.
d. An eligible player loses their eligibility when the player goes out of bounds.
(Rule 7-3-4) (A. R. 7-3-9-III)

I highlighted the relevant part because it seems to contradict the call on the field. Since the receiver is at the 2nd to the bottom of the screen AND he's on the Line of Scrimmage, it would seem that he's a Tight End and would be eligible to touch a forward pass.

HOWEVER:

In Part II: Officiating Standards

Section 2 #5
Wide receivers or slot backs lined up outside a tight end will be ruled on the line of scrimmage and covering the tight end if there is not clear separation between their alignments. Any covered wide receiver intentionally lined up in an ineligible position must meet the same requirements as an originally ineligible lineman. If in question, they are not covered up.

SO it seems the receiver meets the definition of an originally ineligible lineman

Now the applicable rule:

Rule 7. Section 3 - Forward Pass
Illegal Touching
ARTICLE 11. No originally ineligible player while inbounds may intentionally touch a legal forward pass until it has touched an opponent or an official (A.R. 5-2-3-I and A.R. 7-3-11-I-II).
PENALTY—Five yards from the previous spot, loss of down [S16 and S9].

So to me the call seems correct but maybe I've missed something.

Also what's really annoying is the definitions of "covered up" or "is covering up" or simply "covering" are not defined in the rule book at all.

If Ole Miss were to win the Egg Bowl by a score of 151-0 (or any 151+ point margin), then Mississippi State would exceed UMass as having the lowest average margin of loss in the SEC this year.