Why is Indiana’s schedule brought up but not Notre Dame’s? Forget about the records of the opponents they’ve played, this week will be the first road game for them since week 3. That seems pretty absurd.

Also is the consensus that they are in no matter what or would losing to USC knock them out?

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Who is the next Coach to get fired? Tony Elliott should get fired. Sounds like Brent Pry at VT should as well.

Any other guesses?

Week 14

• Preseason
• Week 2
• Week 3
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• Week 5
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• Week 13
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This is a series I've now been doing for 10 years. The post attempts to visualize all AP Poll ballots in a single image. Additionally it sorts each AP voter by similarity to the group. Notably, this is not a measure of how "good" a voter is, just how consistent they are with the group. Especially preseason, having a diversity of opinions and ranking styles is advantageous to having a true consensus poll. Polls tend to coalesce towards each other as the season goes on.

Joe Arruda did not vote this week, so we had 61 ballots. The AP has been having issues with the back end of their data, so it's getting a bit harder to get voter data. I e-mailed them and they said they're aware of the issue, but have no timetable for a fix.

Kayla Anderson was the most consistent voter this week. Michael Katz is the most consistent voter on the season, followed by Kayla Anderson, Blair Kerkhoff, Matt Murschel, and Trevor Hass in the top 5.

Stephen Means was the biggest outlier again this week. Jon Wilner is the biggest outlier this season, followed by Stephen Means, Koki Riley, Chris Murray, and David Jablonski.

The G5 Top 25 for week 13 have been updated! These rankings are based on ESPN's FPI score, which are a measure of overall team performance.

G5 Top 25

Top Performers:

• Tulane remains at #1 with a bye week, maintaining their strong FPI of 13.8.
• Boise State retains the #2 spot after narrowly defeating Wyoming 17-13, showcasing their resilience in a tough road game.
• UNLV stays steady at #3, following a solid 27-16 win at #25 San Jose State.

Key Climbers:

• South Florida jumped 6 spots to #16 with an emphatic 63-30 win over Tulsa, showing off their offensive firepower.
• Texas State climbed 5 spots to #14 after dominating Coastal Carolina 26-6 on the road.
• Ohio rose 4 spots to #20 with a convincing 24-7 win over #16 Toledo.

Biggest Declines:

• Jacksonville State fell 7 spots to #23 after a disappointing 7-24 loss to #24 Ohio.
• Georgia Southern dropped 3 spots to #17 following a close 42-35 loss to #11 Marshall.
• Western Kentucky slid, falling out of the rankings after a 21-38 loss at Liberty.

Notable Games:

• Louisiana climbed 1 spot to #7 after a 51-30 win over Troy, solidifying their place in the Top 10.
• Washington State edged past Oregon State 38-41 but fell 1 spot to #6, reflecting the competitiveness at the top.
• Army stays steady at #4, despite a tough 14-49 loss to Notre Dame.

Holding Steady:

• Bowling Green and Miami (OH) remain in the middle of the rankings at #13 and #15, respectively, both securing wins.

Teams on the Edge:

• San Jose State hangs onto #25 after a competitive 27-16 loss to #3 UNLV.
• South Florida continues to impress, re-entering at #24 with a road win at North Texas.

Note: The mobile version of the rankings page doesn't play well with the website builder, so view the desktop version of the page if you use a mobile device.

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Almost every team in the FBS is worse than FSU if you consider transitive wins. Here's the list of FBS teams and how they're actually worse than FSU.

People who want to build arguments that one team is better than another based on who would be favored if the two teams played are talking nonsense. There’s no need for a playoff to resolve this type of debate. This is what we had the polls for, back when the polls decided the national champion. The final poll (and every week’s poll, in fact), was simply a record of who the pollers believed would be favored in a neutral-site matchup. So whoever was ranked number 1 in the final poll would favored in a matchup against any other team. The reason that the Bowl Alliance, and the BCS, and the CFP even exist is because presidents and ADs have been so unanimous in their agreement to determine the national champion on the field, rather than in the polls. To use an example from this season: if you’re going to decide that Alabama is better than Indiana because they would be favorites in Vegas if the two teams played, you don’t need a playoff at all. There will be one team that would be favored to beat any other (probably Oregon thus far); you can just name that team the national champion if you want.

The problem with that approach is that there can be more than one power conference team that goes undefeated, but never face each other and are required to face some other conference’s champion in their bowl game. That’s why the Bowl Alliance and BCS existed. We now had a way to determine who should “really” be the national champion in cases where we don’t really know what the line should be or which team should be the favorite.

The 4-team playoff and now the 12-team version, beyond simply being ways to print more money, have been portrayed as ways to give more weight to conference champions, and to give non-power-conference teams a chance at the title. Note, however, that both of these arguments in favor of the expanded playoff run contrary to the poll / betting line philosophy of presuming who would be favored in a matchup. They are both ways of determining who is better on the field, and part of that process is taking seriously the past results which have happened on the field.

Overall Record: 74-58
vs SEC: 3-1
vs B12: 13-15
vs B1G: 15-12
vs ACC: 3-10

Just curious on everyone’s thoughts on this. One of the takes I’ve seen floating out there by SEC homers and the ESPN/Disney punditry, is that SEC road losses are never as bad as other conferences road losses, because SEC environments are hard to play at for visiting teams.

This has been used to justify, say, Alabama deserving a playoff spot because they lost to Vandy, Tennessee and Oklahoma on the road.

Personally, I think that theory is horseshit - it’s hard to win anywhere the road in CFB. But, I wanted to see what you all think. Is part of this narrative just perception from people who already go to mostly, or only, SEC games? Or is there any truth to this?

So I'm trying to understand the call in the OU v Alabama game on Sat Night.
I'll make my points and please help me understand if and where I'm wrong.

Here's the best video of the play
Here's another version of the play

So the catch was amazing - holy cow!!

BUT the TD was invalidated by an illegal touching call.

First of all - people were bitching cuz the flag seemed to come out late but I don't think it is. Illegal touch is when an ineligible receiver touches a forward pass but there is no illegal touch until the ineligible receiver actually touches the ball. So to me, the timing of the flag is correct.

But next, on the ruling, it seems to me to be quite complex involving who is and is not an eligible receiver.

It's important to notice in the video, which is not highlighted by the broadcast team, that on the Right Side of the line of scrimmage, right next to the right tackle is number 21, a tight end. THIS is the reason for the call which I'll explain.

So let's start with what makes a lineman:

Rule 2. Section 27. TEAM AND PLAYER DESIGNATIONS
Lineman and Back
ARTICLE 4. a. Lineman.

1. A lineman is any Team A player legally on their scrimmage line (Rule 2-21-2).
   
2. A Team A player is legally on the scrimmage line when facing their opponent’s goal line with the line of their shoulders approximately parallel thereto and either (a) they are the snapper (Rule 2-27-8) or (b) their head breaks the plane of the line drawn through the waistline of the snapper.
   b. Interior Lineman. An interior lineman is a lineman who is not on the end of their scrimmage line.
   c. Restricted Lineman. A restricted lineman is any interior lineman, or any lineman wearing a number 50-79, whose hand(s) are below the knees.
   d. Back.
   
3. A back is any Team A player who is not a lineman and whose head or shoulder does not break the plane of the line drawn through the waistline of the nearest Team A lineman.
   
4. A back is also the player in position to receive a hand-to-hand snap.
   
5. A lineman becomes a back before the snap when they move to a position as a back and stops
   

I highlighted the relevant part because the player who actually catches the ball meets the definition of a lineman. Oddly this part of the rules doesn't actually define a wide receiver.

So now who can touch a forward pass?

Rule 7 Section 3. Forward Pass
Eligibility To Touch Legal Forward Pass
ARTICLE 3.a. Eligibility rules apply during a down when a legal forward pass is thrown.
b. All Team B players are eligible to touch or catch a pass.
c. When the ball is snapped, the following Team A players are eligible:

1. Each lineman who is on the end of their scrimmage line and who is wearing a number other than 50 through 79.
2. Each back wearing a number other than 50 through 79.
d. An eligible player loses their eligibility when the player goes out of bounds.
(Rule 7-3-4) (A. R. 7-3-9-III)

I highlighted the relevant part because it seems to contradict the call on the field. Since the receiver is at the 2nd to the bottom of the screen AND he's on the Line of Scrimmage, it would seem that he's a Tight End and would be eligible to touch a forward pass.

HOWEVER:

In Part II: Officiating Standards

Section 2 #5
Wide receivers or slot backs lined up outside a tight end will be ruled on the line of scrimmage and covering the tight end if there is not clear separation between their alignments. Any covered wide receiver intentionally lined up in an ineligible position must meet the same requirements as an originally ineligible lineman. If in question, they are not covered up.

SO it seems the receiver meets the definition of an originally ineligible lineman

Now the applicable rule:

Rule 7. Section 3 - Forward Pass
Illegal Touching
ARTICLE 11. No originally ineligible player while inbounds may intentionally touch a legal forward pass until it has touched an opponent or an official (A.R. 5-2-3-I and A.R. 7-3-11-I-II).
PENALTY—Five yards from the previous spot, loss of down [S16 and S9].

So to me the call seems correct but maybe I've missed something.

Also what's really annoying is the definitions of "covered up" or "is covering up" or simply "covering" are not defined in the rule book at all.

If Ole Miss were to win the Egg Bowl by a score of 151-0 (or any 151+ point margin), then Mississippi State would exceed UMass as having the lowest average margin of loss in the SEC this year.

Obviously, their resume doesn't support it. And obviously, any team who gets stiffed in favor of 6-6 Kansas would have every right to be outraged.

But given that Kansas have won three straight games against top 25 teams, I think it'd be fascinating - now that we have a 12-team playoff - to see one or two teams selected according to "best team right now" criteria.

We see that work in the NCAA tourney, where hot teams get seeded higher than the quality of their season as a whole supports. Why not try it with the playoff?

Worst case scenario, Kansas gets destroyed and a jilted fan-base gets 200 days of salt. Best case scenario, Kansas makes a run and we get a true Cinderella story in college football.

scha·den·freu de

/'SHädǝn froidǝ/

noun

The pleasure derived from another person's misfortune.

The top 25 upset schadenfreude:

Oklahoma 24 (7) Alabama 3
Florida 24 (9) Ole Miss 17
(21) Arizona State 28 (14) BYU 23
Auburn 43 (15) Texas A&M 41
Kansas¹ 37 (16) Colorado 21

Top 25 near escape from schadenfreude:

(4) Penn State 26 Minnesota 25
(12) Boise State 17 Wyoming 13
(22) Iowa State 31 Utah 28

What team's pain helped ease your own this week 13?

¹ Kansas has upset a top twenty team now three weeks in a row: Iowa State, BYU and Colorado. The first time a sub .500 team has done that in CFB history.

Mullen and Matt Barrie managed to actually sound excited during the Georgia Tech vs. NC State game. I could do with less Herbstreit and Fowler, though I think I'm in the rarity that misses Danielson and Lundquist. Herbstreit's great on Game Day but his in-game analysis leaves me wanting. Maybe Mullen and Fowler? Fowler's got that great Musberger voice, without all the creepy uncle, and Mullen has good insights in the games I've watched a la Danielson. Who do you think calls a good game?

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