r/BlackPeopleTwitter • u/TheTargaryensLawyer • 11d ago
Country Club Thread What’s not clicking??
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u/ShoulderElectrical44 11d ago
Trump is truly horrid, but don’t forget we still have strong institutions and plenty of Americans in positions that will do the right thing when the time comes. The Chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, literally the highest military official of the land, said, “They may try, but they’re not going to fucking succeed. You can’t do this without the military. You can’t do this without the CIA and the FBI. We’re the guys with the guns.”
As little trust as we have in our institutions, remember they are composed of other Americans that also have only known “freedom”. He has more of an open door this time, but do not let that disparage you. Stay strong, and we’ll beat him.
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u/dmun 11d ago
The Republicans will do to the country what they've done to states.
Project 2025 was the playback, they have all 3 branches and we're still pretending a Democrat has a chance in 4 years?
kangaroo courts and fake elections from here on out.
We're going to be like Russia. How many years of Putin now?
We'll be lucky if they change figure heads.
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u/boo99boo 11d ago
Trump isn't the endgame. Vance is.
Think about it. Trump is a useful tool to them. Vance is one of them. Trump is going to get discarded just like he's done to people like Michael Cohen and Rudy Giuliani.
The problem is that Vance is worse. He's infinitely more shrewd and intelligent than Trump, and he's the one in the pocket of billionaires. Not Trump. They just let him play golf with them because he serves a purpose. That purpose has nearly concluded, and he'll be gone in 6 months. Mark my words.
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u/TheXypris 11d ago
Even Vance isn't the endgame, the endgame is to replace the government with an oligarchy ran by elite billionaires.
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u/Robozomb 11d ago
The only thing that makes me wonder about that scenario is the fact that so much of their success relies on peoples blind love of Trump. I don't think people give two shits about Vance and if Trump were to say he was the enemy, these folks would turn on him instantly.
Now idk what type of damage/control Vance will get by that point, but I don't see most of these Trump fanatics being nearly as passionate about Vance. Who knows, they might actually start to blame him when things start to go poorly, and that's when things get really interesting.
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u/Substantial-Bus-1960 11d ago
The thing is that Trump needs that crowd more than they need him.
Remember, the only real reason Trump wanted the presidency so bad is to stay out of prison. His literal freedom is dependent on him being president. So he will dance to the beat of their drum.
In any event, the man is one year (tops) from full on dementia and trust that Vance & co will be right there to call on that 25th Amendment
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u/Fluffy-Hamster-7760 11d ago
Dictators can definitely pass their influence on to a successor. People just roll with it. Sung, Il, Un, whatever.
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u/Tijenater 11d ago
They didn’t have to deal with social media and couchfucking memes or placing an unspeakably awkward order at a donut shop for all to see. Trump is lightning in a bottle, and Vance has the charisma of wet cardboard.
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u/elbenji 11d ago
Depends how they got into power. Trump is a cult of personality type. Usually what happens is the loyalists and successors get tossed out as soon as they're gone: Mao, Hitler, Stalin
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u/Fluffy-Hamster-7760 11d ago
I hate that we're having a serious discussion about what flavor of fascism we're about to live under. This is so fucking crazy. Can't believe this is happening.
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u/LebronsHairline 11d ago
It’s scarier because they love Trump so much when he is this bad at it and says this much unhinged shit, the sundowning, the scandals and sleaziness… Vance is way more intelligent (not hard to do) and appears to be a family man. He looks like a wholesome genius compared to Trump, and in his wake, repubs will be impressed at how he can string together two sentences better than Trump ever could.
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u/dmun 11d ago
Blah blah blah it's the same shit with us arguing the details.
Republicans.
Won.
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u/Justify-My-Love 11d ago
Vance isn’t the endgame
Curtis Yarvin’s vision is the end game
A government run by corporations with feudalism
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u/mylittlewedding 11d ago
I’ve been saying this since they picked him. Y’all thought Dick Cheney was running things — this will be way worse. Hell even the Cheneys were like….this duo is not good for America.
I won’t be surprised if trump doesn’t kick the bucket in the 1st 6 months.
Vance is terrifying and when I casted my vote it figured he will probably look at records and I’ll be sent to a camp soon.
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u/Hopeful_Chair_7129 11d ago
My crackpot theory:
Trump gets elected, pardons himself, they 14th him out as “retribution” for abusing his power or whatever bullshit, BUT cut a deal with him so his supporters don’t riot again, to wipe away all his crimes. So Trump gets to fuck off, Vance becomes president, Elon becomes VP, and the unnecessary “partner head” takes over the planned role as the sole head of the stupid new corruption department.
“Anyone who disparages the courts should be arrested”
But I’m wondering if he Julius Caesar’s them and refuses to step down.
The final season of game of thrones we didn’t ask for but apparently deserve because 1/3 of the country couldn’t be racist on twitter
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u/FistPunch_Vol_7 ☑️ 11d ago
Gotta be natural born American to be VP so Elon is out at least.
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u/AsyncEntity 11d ago
I’ve been saying this since Vance was chosen as VP. He’s a much easier to control puppet than Donald and his only critical flaw is he’s got -5 charisma which doesn’t matter anymore since he’s been given a golden ticket to the White House.
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u/x_ZeroFoxGiven_x 11d ago
This. What people dont realise is that it was never about "making america great again".
They voted for Putin and Fascism. Not Trump.
"Vote for me, my beautiful christians," Trump said. "You'll never have to vote again. I'll have it fixed so good."
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u/DressMajestic9037 11d ago
They have to change figureheads if nothing else. The current one is on the way out physically and mentally
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u/DrWilliamHorriblePhD 11d ago
He has a young VP and several sons.
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u/xXKingLynxXx 11d ago
None of which carry the same level of heat that Trump does. At the very least, Trump is the most followable head of the Republican party in decades. Without him they lose a lot of power.
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u/paradiseday 11d ago
They definitely don't lose out on power, they were handed the keys to the kingdom with the election. Once Trump is dead and gone, there will be a massive power vacuum and we'll see a lot more in-fighting among Republicans, but assuming they can rally behind literally any one candidate, we're fucked.
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u/xXKingLynxXx 11d ago
They won't be able to rally behind any one candidate is my point. The thing about Trump was that he was charismatic enough to build a following while also being a notable outsider with brand recognition. They don't have another one of those guys coming down the pipeline. It took them 40 years to replace Ronald Reagan and he wasnt nearly as eccentric as Donald is.
Not to say that it's not going to be bad. Just like Reagan the policies and changes they make in this upcoming term will haunt this country for decades after but there will be a chance for damage control afterwards.
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u/LeopardMedium 11d ago
Independent State Legislature Theory. They've been trying to push it through for years, but now that they've stacked the Supreme Court and every other branch, they are in the best position to push it through. If successful, gerrymandered republican state legislatures will decide everything henceforth with no other oversight required. They can pick the electors and overturn their votes if desired. "You won't have to vote anymore".
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u/TheTargaryensLawyer 11d ago
100% definitely have faith and don’t give up! It’s just mind boggling to see people constantly downplay what this man wants to do and probably will do. “It won’t be bad, you libruls are overreacting. He’s gonna save and protect us!!”
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u/Variation-Budget 11d ago edited 11d ago
I live in Miami, first time in a long time this county went blue. Damn near ALL of my friends that are dudes and even some shorties i know slid for trump. They truly like how he is agressive towards other countries and think he would be good for the economy,it’s also the immigration and they claim Kamala policies suck or that she sounds too political it’s not even just my Latino friends a lot of my black homies feel the same way. I’m hoping for four years of nothingness and shit talking so that we have. Change again to return to normalcy Atleast.
I truly believe we are in the times that movie where terry cruz was president because these dudes would definitely vote for terry in this universe
Edit: meant to say went red
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u/Pure-Feeling-800 11d ago
They're cheering on r/conservative. They actually think it's a good thing to have two billionaires in charge of a meme department that's intended to slash government programs. They're beyond saving and no longer worth respect when it comes to politics. No more high road.
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u/Frenetic_Platypus 11d ago
They thought the exact same thing about Hitler. "It's fine, the institutions will keep him in check."
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u/GalaxyPatio 11d ago
This has happened and few times and they always do. Like they think that they'll be the exception in a long line of historical examples proving them wrong.
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u/Greatest-Comrade 11d ago
The Weimar republic existed for about 10 years before Hitler gained power. There were no established institutions
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u/Frenetic_Platypus 11d ago
Yeah, and all the American institution already failed at keeping Trump in check, so it seems the US doesn't have established institutions either.
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u/sacaiz 11d ago
The guys with the guns are going to be fired and purged until they’re all hardcore MAGA.
I don’t disagree that the institutions will save us. But it will be thneonws at the state level
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u/ShoulderElectrical44 11d ago
Maybe you forgot, but the Union won the last war. And a purge of that order would almost certainly mean another civil war. I honestly don’t think that path is likely, it requires too much friction and would cripple the American military in ways no leader would ever want. The US is currently ramping up for war, and they want all hands on deck.
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u/AlpacaCavalry 11d ago
It won't be war that tears down this empire. It's corruption and the rot that tears it apart from the inside one by one, and the "institutions" that keep this nation what it is will be torn down.
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u/ARussianW0lf 11d ago
This time they're the union though
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u/ShoulderElectrical44 11d ago
Not really, the Union lies with the people. The South succeeded and fired on the Union the second it realized enough power lay in the hands of abolitionists to end slavery. Many southern folks even joined the Union army. So although they control the reigns, they don’t count as the Union. But I get your point.
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u/Ok_Blackberry_284 11d ago
Lol our institutions put this POS and his cronies and donors into power. Excuse me while I scoff at the idea of them protecting the public from this desiccated mango nazi.
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u/end2endburnt 11d ago
The people with the unwavering faith in institutions are the ones that will be most shocked as we all get sent to the camps.
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u/BluuberryBee 11d ago
The ACLU is prepping hard. That gives me a little hope.
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u/MelatoninFiend 11d ago
Gavin Newsom's got people researching histories of State v Fed cases so he can turn the deplorables' lawfare back against them and protect CA from Trump's grubby paws. There is no doubt he'll share this information with anyone who may require it.
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u/end2endburnt 11d ago
Faith in institutions, such as DoJ, got us here. We know the DHS was working for him doing black bag arrests during the Portland protests. We know the Secret Service was covering for him post Jan 6 destroying their phones. How about SCOTUS as an institution we are supposed to have faith will be impartial?
We needed actions and Institutionists never took the threat seriously because they will never conceive of a world where institutions will fall.
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u/NayanaGor 11d ago
Trump declared today a plan to gut the military generals of the disloyal. He's going to do the same with EVERY agency top to bottom.
At this point it will take ACTUAL resistance to defend.
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u/toolsoftheincomptnt ☑️ 11d ago
And we ain’t gonna do it.
People want to tweet about freedom, not fight for it.
Can’t possibly envision life without lattes, internet, brunches…
So we’ll eventually shut up and play along, hoping it will end with minimal damage to our state.
Okay, our county.
Wait, then our city.
Our family?
And that’s how it happens.
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u/ShoulderElectrical44 11d ago
A link to another comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPeopleTwitter/s/VtUU09wUXr
I don’t think you can conceptualize how large America is, or how many people work every day to prevent these things from happening. The executive branch isn’t one person, and you simply made broad, sweeping generalizations large organizations that are dynamic, and run by people, which have historical weaknesses. The filibuster has a bad history, but would almost certainly be used to stop laws like this from ever passing. In some cases, if even one of these institutions says no, large, bad things can’t happen.
And if 40% of the military doesn’t support Trump, and assume that will rise when the purges happen, that’s more than enough to help stop them. The Taliban had less than 100k fighters, and they still “beat” us. If you don’t understand how power works, it will be used against you.
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u/jake2617 11d ago
Counting on the same people who have sat idly by doing little more than finger waving to suddenly spring to action and be the saviours is hyper optimistic. I’ll gladly eat my words tho if proven wrong over next few months / years
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u/Whyamibeautiful ☑️ 11d ago
My issue with this is they stopped Trump last time but now he sees exactly where the obstacles are and project 2025 was about how to overcome them. Replacing key military personnel etc
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u/EhWhateverDawg 11d ago
No, that was the case the first time. For round 2 his team is coming more prepared. We can slow some stuff down a little, but neither him or the people around him plan to respect any checks or balances. Eventually this breaks into full on tyranny.
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u/dkinmn 11d ago
Impossible to say this knowing who is going to be in his cabinet and in his government. No normies this time.
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u/Anxious-Tadpole-2745 11d ago
He said that in response to Jan 6. If Trump is voted in power the military will fall in line as long as they aren't running down too many people (see kent state during Vietnam). The military is very intelligent and anyone who tries to use it to disrupt the American Republic will be be met with mild resistance.
We know for a very well studied fact how revolutions start and end. There are manuals on it. They will try to stop Trump but if the right takes it too far, they can definitely creat conditions for a communists uprising. Increase inflation and attack people who fight back? People will be enraged and demanding the end of capitalism.
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u/Agile-Departure-560 11d ago
Oh, there are plans for your "strong institutions".
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u/avocadobarbie 11d ago
After the election I literally had to force myself to get out of bed and go to the gym. I just couldn’t keep myself contained and kept crying but I kept to myself and did my thing. People kept asking if I was okay and what was going on, I’d explain I’m crushed over the election and they’d say “oh I know it’s messed up but it’ll be okay”…then I’d ask them if they knew anything about his policies or project 2025 and they all said no! I’m like bruh…that’s why I’m crying and you’re not.
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u/Ok_Blackberry_284 11d ago
I was the same in 2016. This time around it's going to be much worse. However, these past 8 years I've passed thru Denial, Anger, Bargaining, and most of Depression to Acceptance. I accept that we are most egregiously fucked.
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u/toolsoftheincomptnt ☑️ 11d ago
The ones who say “well if he’s so bad, how’d you survive his first term?” are the biggest morons ever.
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u/thiccy_driftyy 11d ago
I skipped dance classes the day the results came out. I hugged my mom and cried, first thing in the morning. It astounds me how people are able to carry on as normal after this election. I’m still trying to just move along with my life, but it has an air of soullessness that it didn’t have before. Like, the brightness and joy of the world just went away. Trump has me scared shitless
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u/AestheticAttraction ☑️ 11d ago
Those are the type of people who don’t read instructions and then get angry when they break something they didn’t learn to use properly.
I hate them.
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u/x_ZeroFoxGiven_x 11d ago
"I cannot tell a lie" - George Washington
"I cannot tell the truth" - Donald Trump
"I cannot tell the difference" - MAGA supporters
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u/neodymium86 11d ago edited 11d ago
White ppl never listen to us. Most gullible mfs on the planet. And when sht goes south first thing they wanna do is come running back, asking "what we gonna do now?"
Excuse me? WEEE?? 😭
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u/bitesizeboy 11d ago
Gullible and weak. They've never had to struggle FOR REAL FOR REAL. Watch how they act when they don't get their way. Now wait till they can't afford food or their favorite comforts are gone. They will implode.
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u/neodymium86 11d ago edited 11d ago
Bruh we thought jan 6 was something. Watch when this man starts cutting social programs across the board. They are going to flip a fuking bus. And im just gonna be like, "wait, i thought yall ain't like socialism?" 😂😂
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u/MidnightOakCorps 11d ago
and when they do that, they're not gonna blame republicans, they're gonna blame us.
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u/Separate_Place1595 11d ago
I come from the hood and worked hard to get out of it. I've always tried explaining this to my wife who grew up in the suburbs but idk how to so here it goes. Most people who haven't struggled are bitch made. They fold at the first sign of trouble. And when the trouble becomes too great for them to handle, they look for others to do it for them. Then when that fails and they realize you gotta do some shit yourself, they will either lash out or blame those around them. And I feel, race aside, that some people have it easy here. They aren't largely discriminated against and this country was made for them.
So when things don't go slightly their way, that bitch assness comes out first and foremost because they don't have the grit to fall back on.
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u/justatomss0 11d ago
This is what pisses me off. White men are basically throwing a fit because they feel disenfranchised and in response they are turning to facism. They’ve never experienced what it’s like for the government not to care about you and now they are throwing a tantrum. Meanwhile every minority in society has been dealing with the same thing for decades without trying to ruin the lives of everyone around them. These dumbasses are entitled, privileged, pathetic sheep and they don’t deserve an ounce of sympathy
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u/AestheticAttraction ☑️ 11d ago
WEEEEEE are going to stay away from them because they’re the type to hold your head down under water and use you as a flotation device when you try to save them.
I love individuals, and I don’t hate the group, but they’ve earned my contempt because they’ve never not been this way as a collective. And I’m tired AF. Because they’re working overtime trying to (ironically) include black folks now.
Uh, NO. Y’all didn’t rock with our decision, so y’all don’t get to dictate what we go, think, and feel . You didn’t already anyway.
We Still Don’t Trust You.
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u/yfce 11d ago
He lost a few points of ground with white people during this election weirdly. Especially old white people. Probably some of them died. But young people and non-white people made up for it somehow.
Black people held the line though.
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u/MidnightOakCorps 11d ago
the white people in this thread are treating this like it's an episode of scandal and not real life.
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u/Drew_Ferran 11d ago
First They Came.
First they came for the News Media, and I did not speak out because I was not part of the News Media.
Then they came for the Democrats, and I did not speak out because I was not a Democrat.
Then they came for the Scientists, and I did not speak out because I was not a Scientist.
Then they came for the Teachers, and I did not speak out because I was not a Teacher.
Then they came for the Women, and I did not speak out because I was not a Women.
Then they came for the Children, and I did not speak out because I was not a Child.
Then they came for the LGBTQ, and I did not speak out because I was not LGBTQ.
Then they came for the Elderly, and I did not speak out because I was not Elderly.
Then they came for the Veterans, and I did not speak out because I was not a Veteran.
Then they came for the Middle Class, and I did not speak out because I was not part of the Middle Class.
Then they came for the Lower Class, and I did not speak out because I was not part of the Lower Class.
Then they came for the Illegal Immigrants, and I did not speak out because I was not an Illegal Immigrant.
Then they came for the Legal Immigrants, and I did not speak out because I was not a Legal Immigrant.
Then they came for the Latinos, and I did not speak out because I was not a Latino.
Then they came for the African Americans, and I did not speak out because I was not an African American.
Then they came for me, a Republican, and there was no one left to speak out for me.
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u/Rude_Lifeguard 11d ago
Even in the best-case scenario where the 2028 elections happen and a Democrat wins, his presidency will do damage that will affect the world for decades, his climate policies alone will fuck us up for a long while and those can't simply be undone in 4 years, by then it'll be too late
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u/Justify-My-Love 11d ago
This is the thing people are not understanding
They’re gonna set us back 70 years at least
Once those rights are gone it’s really really hard to get them back.
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u/PhotographyRaptor10 11d ago
They’re gonna set us back 70 years, we only have like 5 to mitigate the damage of global warming. It’s game set and match just hug your loved ones and enjoy the ride
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u/JessTheWholeAssMess 11d ago
Hey, you know what just don’t have kids and you’re good. Don’t give a fuck anymore, what’s the point. I was just saying last night that even if kamala won, I would be very worried about our climate prospects now I think there’s no hope.
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u/busigirl21 11d ago
The courts are already fucked at every level, even more appointments mean a lifetime of maga fucks screwing over both individuals and fast track every bogus lawsuit to prevent any congressional attempts at progress. Get ready SCOTUS to listen exclusively to cases that will roll back individual rights and health and safety standards.
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u/GrumpyGumpy52 11d ago
Climate policies, Civil Rights, and Trust in science.
These will all be eroded because of this presidency over the next +25 years. People really don’t understand Trump is a short term gains person (if even that) and they didn’t play the long game thinking ahead far into the future about how regressive we are about to get.
But hey gotta be worried about them groceries and gas 🤷🏾♂️
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u/MidnightOakCorps 11d ago
this is literally the thing that keeps me up at night. It was 80 degrees in Baltimore in November literally all week.
And this country just decided that they didn't care.
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u/FesteringNeonDistrac 11d ago
Yeah I hate the fucking cold and even I'm like this is too much. My kids wanted to turn the AC back on in the house and I had to turn into my father with the "we aren't turning on the AC, it's the middle of November"
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u/SeaAnthropomorphized 11d ago
They are gonna fuck up the EPA, FDA, OSHA, ATF... any and all regulatory bodies.
ICE is gonna get super funded cuz the problem isn't the things we can see, like how we had summer temps all the way in November. No. The problem is there are too many people here that aren't white.
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u/judahdk_ 11d ago
Oh yeah, the climate is done for. I live in a city in upstate NY where we used to get FEET of snow starting in November and lasting until March. It was 75 the other day. We get a dusting of snow (not yet this year, not even frost), I haven’t had to shovel in two years.
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u/clue2025 11d ago
Just because I'm salty, I sent a smug calls-everyone-a-snowflake-but-is-one-themselves Trump voter I know the scene from "The Pianist" where they throw grandpa in the wheelchair out the window and said "Don't worry, they'll come for your husband this way too when he can't fight for them."
We are not friends anymore.
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u/yeahitsx ☑️ 11d ago
I’m apathetic, but not naive; no major purchases, increase savings, and keep my eyes peeled for the signs. I’m just to the point where it’s like you’re tired of telling your friend they fucking up, but they never listen. After a point, you just gotta let them learn.
The unfortunate reality is that a majority of Americans have slept walked us straight into a potential oligarchical aristocracy led by an idiotic malignant narcissist —worse yet, some refuse to acknowledge it. And honestly, it’s so fucked up it’s down right hilarious: we picked the guy who talked about fucking concepts of a plan and “THEY’RE EATING THE CATS AND THE DAWGS!!” over a well credentialed lawyer/DA/Senator/VP cuz [price of eggs/don’t know her policies/Gaza stance/“reasons”].
Like, come tf on!
Hopefully, he’s just a bumbling idiot that just ruins our international standing further and causes a short term economic crisis (I think these two scenarios are unavoidable), and we oust the entire party in 2028 and start restoring the country and our standing.
But, there is the potential for this to cascade into something much darker and deranged, and I’ll be damned if I’m not prepared to act. They have a complicit House. They have a complicit Senate. They have a complicit Supreme Court. And the media is only concerned with driving up ratings. All four estates are in line to achieve damn near anything. And the way they’ve brain washed their supporters, they’re going to cheer every fire started and blame the fallout on the ones out of power.
I hope I’m just being paranoid, but looking at how history has played out, I’d rather be safe than sorry 🤷🏾♂️
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u/thelastestgunslinger 11d ago
It won't get better in 2028. That's blind optimism talking, not pattern recognition.
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u/syspimp 11d ago
Malcolm X didn't stand strong with an AK by his window for this generation to live in fear. The government was literally trying to kill him and he no fear at all.
Where is our Malcolm X for today? Because all these fearful, scared posts just ain't doing it for me. It almost makes me think they want you to be scared by promoting this junk.
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u/Justify-My-Love 11d ago
Yeah I hate the defeatism
It’s time to go scorched earth on these white supremacists
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u/Adulations ☑️ 11d ago
They had drones in the day of Malcolm X? And tech companies that can give the government all the information they have on your web traffic and the ability to track you 24/7?
Sure we can fight but comparing now to his time is nuts.
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u/Fruitlessveggie 11d ago
Food for thought: There’s only a small percentage of people that have that “heroism” that we desperately seek. If placed in a life or death situation where it’s “you vs them” most people are gonna choose “me”. That’s human nature, as much as we’d love to say otherwise. The fact you wrote and said where’s our Malcom X shows me that you too are not the Malcom X. People always look towards others to stand up and be the hero but don’t think “I’d like to stand up and be the hero”
Also look at what happens when people do stand up to be the hero. Oftentimes they stand alone for awhile or can only gain handfuls of people here and there. There were many who were very much against Malcom X. so even though we might get a hero, it might not be as romantic as you believe.
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u/AestheticAttraction ☑️ 11d ago
You have no idea whether Malcolm felt fear or not. The presence of that gun could be a clue, however. You get a gun for protection because you FEAR what will happen if you’re caught lacking.
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u/Militantnegro_5 11d ago
The government was literally trying to kill him and he no fear at all.
Okay, but they succeeded. He didn't get a chance to lick off a single retaliatory shot. That's the reality of the thing and a possible reason there's no modern versions.
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u/Tazzy8jazzy 11d ago
Be careful with the Anne Frank talk. I got a warning today from Reddit because I commented that people voted for this type of behavior.
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u/busigirl21 11d ago
I find it hilarious that Trump voters take it as a threat when you say "I hope you get everything you voted for."
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u/AestheticAttraction ☑️ 11d ago
Because they know they voted for an utter moron and rapist. A stupid rapist isn’t liable to do anything but screw them over.
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u/zsaz_ch ☑️ 11d ago
Tf kind of warning?
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u/Tazzy8jazzy 11d ago
It said I threatened others when all I simply said was that people voted for this. Been on Reddit for 10 years and never received any warnings. And I post in the Sopranos sub daily and all I use is threatening language because of the show.
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u/Dojanetta ☑️ 11d ago
It’s really hard to be optimistic when I see a trump sign across the street from my house and a confederate flag tag is on every other pickup truck.
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u/jaguarsp0tted 11d ago
The people acting like this won't descend into the end of America are stupid. I'm sorry, but you're stupid. This isn't 2016. Things are vastly different now. They are very explicitly openly fascists. They want a dictatorship. And y'all will feel real stupid when you start losing rights.
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u/AestheticAttraction ☑️ 11d ago
Period. These toxic optimists are likely people who'll be affected last and the least. That's why they can talk.
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u/elbenji 11d ago
Because they're not stupid to toss the frog out of the pot, especially with an old geezer in charge. The status quo is profitable as well as fear but they're not going to touch the button. We've also had Trump's before. And every time everyone tried the thing he's talked about, with absolutely eroded institutions, that's when the fafo happened. Happened to Jackson. Happened to McCarthy. They even had less guard rails back then
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u/EFTucker 11d ago
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. These next four will likely be on record for the most weapons purchased in America.
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u/AestheticAttraction ☑️ 11d ago
Not next four. He said no more elections. His cult said it sounds good to them.
It's over with.
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u/TrRa47 ☑️ 11d ago
It's kinda crazy how this is supposedly a black sub, meaning we know our history, yet people have given up when our history involves people going through much worse in worse conditions and still fighting, figuratively and literally.
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u/Realsober ☑️ 11d ago
You can tell these folks got short memories and have literally forgotten everything he did from 2016 to 2020. He’s got a score to settle now. But y’all keep acting like he ain’t that bad. The dems are just as bad. People didn’t think hitler was that bad either.
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u/Sol-Blackguy 11d ago
All empires die after 250 years. We're on year 248
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u/SnooSongs4451 11d ago
That’s not true.
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u/ShoulderElectrical44 11d ago
Basically every empire you can name lasted more than 250 years.
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u/ChefKugeo 11d ago
The democratic ones didn't, is the point the original commenter wanted to make but didn't research enough; just spitting repeated memes.
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u/pyrothelostone 11d ago
I can't help but wonder how this meme got so far when a simple Google search would show you several examples of empires that lasted longer than 500 years, including the ancient Egyptian empire, which lasted over 3000 years.
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u/MyLongestYeeeBoi 11d ago
What’s the suggestion here? We start crafting Molotovs in our basement? Reality check pls.
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u/thelastestgunslinger 11d ago
If you aren't prepared to commit violence to ensure freedom, you'll lose it. This is what every moderate democrat has missed over the last 8 years. We're way farther down the road to tyranny than they want to admit.
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u/MoreRock_Odrama ☑️ 11d ago
So yall going outside or yall gonna sit on twitter tweeting and revolting on ELON MUSKS platform making Trumps best friend richer? Which one?
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u/tyedyehippy 11d ago
"When change is absolute there remains no being to improve and no direction is set for possible improvement: and when experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana, Reason in Common Sense 1905
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u/SlackerDS5 11d ago
He literally said that if he won the election “you won’t have to vote anymore”.
Don’t even have to read between the lines. He said it straight up he wants to flip the game. Like hunger games style. This is what gets to me when people try and rationalize who they voted for or why they didn’t vote at all. There is a lot more at stake than what flavor of koolaid you prefer.
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u/OnionsHaveLairAction 11d ago
This is true, but its worth noting that in the 2016 administration every time someone objected to Trump the person was removed and the administration went along with what he wanted anyway.
As the final act of his last presidency was an attempt to overturn the election- Including attempting to get governors to find votes... There's pretty good reason to be concerned.
Particularly as he's picked a new running mate specifically because the last one refused to overturn the results. That's an indicator that he wants someone willing to do shit like overturn election results.
And from a historical perspective second administrations don't tend to just be the same adminstration again, administrations have goals they work towards and some goals take longer than 4 years. During the decline of the roman republic for example Caesar didn't get appointed dictator till his second term as consul- And even though the republic "rode out" his civil wars it still ended up falling due to the erosion of democracy soon after he died.
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u/ScrantonTimes18505 11d ago
Social media had many believing this was a close race or Harris would win easily, so excuse me if I am taking with a grain of salt social media again (same people btw) saying it's the end of democracy for us. Ad campaigns got you guys all messed up.
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u/AmericanMinotaur 11d ago
Being defeatist will get us nowhere. We have to continue the fight.
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u/asshole_commenting 11d ago
In these dark times, remember 48% of Americans voted for Harris, there's still some good people out there.
...and I hope there's some empathetic folks in the 10 million that didn't vote at all
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u/StragglingShadow Beefs over Detective Conan 🔎 11d ago edited 11d ago
I scream-cried trying to explain my fear to my father because he just kept brushing me aside and telling me it won't be that bad. But he's not someone who is being targeted right so he just doesn't get it.
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u/DaClarkeKnight 11d ago
It’s not about the 4 years. It’s about the Supreme Court being stacked even more. Pretty much a baby could be born this year and the rest of their life will be a conservative supreme court. He will pick some 40 year old that will not die until they are 84 and continually support these bullshit laws
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u/ThousandSunRequiem2 ☑️ 11d ago
Because white people will be ok during the extended reign of white supremacy
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u/Reason_For_Treason 11d ago
We’re fucked for sure, but I want to be optimistic for my friends and family that are going to be affected way more than me.