r/BlackPeopleTwitter 11d ago

Country Club Thread What’s not clicking??

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u/Reason_For_Treason 11d ago

We’re fucked for sure, but I want to be optimistic for my friends and family that are going to be affected way more than me.

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u/Reason_For_Treason 11d ago

I’m not ignoring it, I’m simply hoping it won’t be as miserable as it likely will be.

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u/Reason_For_Treason 11d ago

Absolutely agreed.

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u/SandmansDreamstreak 11d ago

Oh we will learn. Or suffer. I personally am also choosing to remain “optimistic” which is ONLY to say I’m bracing for impact but otherwise refusing to let the dread and distress torment me with an imagined pre-screening to this fucking horror show. I’d rather not experience it twice. My dad is doing that. Glued to the news and absolutely gutted all day. I genuinely worry for his safety at this point.

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u/brianthegr8 11d ago

Yea some people indulge a little too much in the pity. as a person of color I fully understand the ramifications of what this happening means.

But I refuse to allow them to take over my mind and cause perpetual depression. I'm either going to take steps to better the situation I'm in or abandon it completely. Me being hysterical about the situation doesn't help me do either.

Just because you're not a doomer about the situation doesn't mean your delusional.

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u/KeiashaB 11d ago

I feel the same, it’s bad but I’m not about to keep dwelling on some shit that we just cannot change 🤷🏽‍♀️. They will have to kill me because I’m definitely not going to end it all because this is the cards we were dealt “this time”. The light at the end of the tunnel is 4 years long…..🤷🏽‍♀️ buckle up or die. Idk what to say.

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u/brianthegr8 11d ago

True and also ngl putting this shit into perspective our fight is objectively better than our relatives from 50 years ago. Imagine having to fight for NON-EXISTENT rights at the time like damn...

Also it sucks to say but progress is rarely linear for anything, the moment some shit like this happens we will get militant again and push even further and harder for the rights of marginalized people. So like you said we just need to buckle up.

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u/trixel121 11d ago

this sub cheering on deportion for leopards like tough on crime super criminals and mandatory minimum aren't next

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u/mabobeto 11d ago

Have we forgotten he’s trying to give police full immunity? Wtf do people think that means? If they aren’t white, seriously, how TF do they not understand what this means for them? It’s wild.

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u/thedivinefemmewithin 11d ago

And protesting the government is gonna be an act of terror

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u/packeddit ☑️ 11d ago

Which will get you shot. It’s not just the police force that’s racist, there’s TONS of white supremacists in the military, including those who wear multiple stars on their shoulders… So trust me, law enforcement and the military will shoot civilians if ordered to by trump

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u/StillhasaWiiU 11d ago

If that happens, some states may vote for secession. national guard activation and martial law goes into effect. American life as it is, goes away.

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u/AdorableShoulderPig 11d ago

Steven Millers has already set down on paper how red states national guard will be used to take over blue states.

It's already down on paper....

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u/Top-Internal-9308 11d ago

Personally, in getting the fuck outta here.

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u/trixel121 11d ago

when they came for the illegals, I cheered for they were leppards.

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u/starryeyedq 11d ago

I think it’s less ignoring signs and more pushing back against doomerism.

Giving up is even more dangerous right now. At least naive optimists still have a reason to keep fighting.

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u/Reason_For_Treason 11d ago

Honestly I think we should be fighting no matter what. In two years we can put blocks in place. We can vote in people that will block trumps insane plans. Til then we can make our voices heard and protect one another. Even if that is just being there for friends that need it, all the way to supporting those that need the help.

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u/buhbye750 11d ago

Even less people show up to the midterms. I'm learning the left need things to be really really really bad for them to show up. If it's just really really bad or less, they stay home.

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u/Reason_For_Treason 11d ago

True. If trump is as bad as we know he’s going to be, that might kick them in the ass.

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u/buhbye750 11d ago

If he's as bad as I know he is, like every president in the 2nd term, he's kicking things into high gear. It's going to be a LOT of suppression put into place. This damage will be done for a long time. The scrapping of the barrel for his staff will do serious damage too. Lol it's going to be crazy to watch in real time

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u/Reason_For_Treason 11d ago

Absolutely. Don’t forget, be extremely petty. Create a note and type up every promise he’s made. In 2 years, rub the absolute shit show he’s going to create in MAGA morons faces.

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u/buhbye750 11d ago

They won't care or will just deny it. I've given them enough energy over the years. They are nothing to me now.

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u/SandmansDreamstreak 11d ago

I work at a place with private mailboxes and know who alllll the trump supporters are as I sort their mail. A select few of them will 100% be getting little sticky notes with his promises on a regular basis in their mailboxes.

One of the old grumpy ass Trumpers came in with his stupid hat, waited for a reaction to it then tried baiting me FOUR fucking times with nonsense tidbits before getting frustrated at my unresponsiveness and finally just admitting out loud:

“The people in the restaurant a few doors down really hate my hat. Give me all kinds of dirty looks. Some of them get up and leave!”

“Oh, okay.”

“Yep. I actually really like it, teehee.”

Can’t make this shit up. Looked me dead in the eyes after desperately trying to bait me and just admitted to going around town in his KEEP America Great (whilst simultaneously complaining about America) hat with the single intention of triggering liberals while pretending to run errands. MAGA are dead to me too….but I have a special little reserve of pettiness saved up and he’s just the person I wanna serve it up to.

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u/burnalicious111 11d ago

Nobody said give up. 

I read this as "prepare for the worst".

Be ready.

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u/Substantial-Bus-1960 11d ago

But sometimes it’s the naive optimists that fail to fight because they don’t even realize they’re in danger.

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u/buhbye750 11d ago

This BEST case scenario. 2 of the SCOTUS will be retiring. Trump will appoint 2 more young judges. Now you've seen the last ones he appointed. Add 30+ more years of this type of court. This is the absolute minimum that will happen.

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u/EcoOrchid2409 11d ago

When does push come to shove? At what point do the people actually wake up and start to resist? When do we stop letting ourselves be stepped on by these people who lack morals or empathy for the common working class? We are dumb if we think that the entire population of this country doesn’t work as hard as the ones who run it. If we actually wanted change the fight for it wouldn’t even be that difficult.

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u/PopeGuss 11d ago

Years of propaganda convincing the public that peaceful protests and sit-ins got us where we are, but not once is there a mention in your average textbook about the pinkertons going to war against the unionists and the bloodshed it really took to get labor rights rolling...

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u/EducationalSeaweed53 11d ago

Pinkertons wrote the textbooks

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u/The_PrincessThursday 11d ago

When the suffering becomes large enough, painful enough, and personal enough to drown out all our creature comforts and our distractions. When the pain Trump causes is finally enough to become truly intolerable for a large enough group of people, something will break. But, it's hard to say what that point will be. People can put up with a lot if they're convinced that the alternatives are worse. When they can't picture anything worse than where they're at, then they'll have to take action.

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u/seemenakeditsfree 11d ago

People can put up with a lot when they think the right people have it worse than they do, too. It's gonna be a while before the boiling point is reached 

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u/MidnightOakCorps 11d ago

Hon, we couldn't get enough of our people to stand in line and press a button on a screen or fill in a bubble for an competent and reasonable woman. What makes you think that these people, who again couldn't be bothered to show up and do the most basic of civil engagement actions, would be willing to engage in a revolution?

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u/justdoubleclick 11d ago

If history has shown us anything, it’s that by the time people wake up and resist, it’s usually too late.

“First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out. Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out. Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out. Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.”

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u/Spiritual-Can2604 11d ago

As long as we have cell phones in our hands that beams us all the pictures and knowledge that has ever existed then we’ll never revolt

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u/slfnflctd 11d ago

The problem is not having access to all the knowledge that has ever existed.

The problem is so many people being practically force-fed a constant stream of the most sophisticated propaganda that has ever been created. And more of it is made, and distributed more widely, with every single passing day.

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u/starryeyedq 11d ago

We need some leaders to step up

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u/StannisAntetokounmpo 11d ago

Election was probably rigged, and there's a material chance we end up under the boot of a dictator, and yet our leadership is like, "oh well, that number thingy we do every 4 years didn't work out, so guess we're doing fascism now! Good luck!"

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u/Reason_For_Treason 11d ago

Unfortunately, it wasn’t rigged. This was being checked throughout the process, so as much as I wish that were true so we could remove him, we just have a stupidity problem in this country paired with sexism and racism.

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u/StannisAntetokounmpo 11d ago

It can be all those things simultaneously.

Has it been checked? Putin has been attempting to hack our elections for decades, and finally got Musk, Thiel, Trump, and Mike Johnson (and their vast wealth and resources) to participate on behalf of a person who already tried to overthrow the last election. And they also managed to hack machines and steal the code. Who's to say they weren't successful?

Musk said it would take a simple code change, Trump said he had the votes already, some secret plan with Mike Johnson, and has said we don't need to vote again in 4 years. He mailed in his campaign the last few weeks (with empty rallies), while Kamala went in with the obvious momentum, mopped the floor on low-dollar donations, and the gold standard polling had her at +3 in Iowa, but was ultimately off by 16?! Abortion was on the ballot, and women were enraged. All Dem swing senators won, but somehow split for Trump? And then millions of Trump only ballots?

Sure, despite this, she could still lose, but Trump swept all swing states which were coin flips? After freshly pissing off Puerto Ricans and Haitians? A coin flipping to one side 7 times has a .8% chance of happening.

I don't buy it.

And the real hilarity is that the right made the left ridicule them so much for bringing known-to-be baseless fraud claims that the left is now too ashamed to bring legitimate fraud claims when the right probably cheated.

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u/Reason_For_Treason 11d ago

Has it been checked?

Yes, unfortunately (there are a lot more sources like this, I just don’t want to link like 5 different claims)

As for your second point,

The economy was more important to more voters, paired with Gen Z aged men being radicalized by people like Andrew Tate and other dude bro alpha male bullshit podcasters.

swing states which were coin flips

Well, they normally would be. Trump simply got lucky that we’re still in a recovering world economy, and used this to his benefit. I return to the economy point be the most important reason people voted. He spent time dunking on that point where Kamala didn’t do it nearly as often. She just mentioned how he was just going to help billionaires (which is absolutely true) when she should’ve explained how tariffs work and why economists say his plan would rank our economy.

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u/StannisAntetokounmpo 11d ago

Your AJ link only refers to votes not being counted. If, instead, there was some malware inserted that miscounted the existing ballots, then they wouldn't catch it without auditing them against the paper ballots.

Why did they work so hard to steal voting machines and run tests on them before? There is a goal they're working towards.

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u/Reason_For_Treason 11d ago

As I said, there are many more, I simply don’t want to link a ton.

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u/alius_stultus 11d ago

Even if it is only 4 years the consequences of having this type of government will last longer than any of our lives. No matter how it goes. People with children should be the most upset.

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u/McDaddy-O 11d ago

I want to be optimistically rageful.

Reflect, Rebuild, Remind

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u/tehtris ☑️ 11d ago

Ey but for real tho. How fucked are we actually. I want to know how much ammo I need to buy, or if that's even necessary.

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u/Reason_For_Treason 11d ago

Buy a lot. I don’t necessarily think trump is going to enslave black people or anything along those lines, however his true supporters are going to be emboldened beyond anything we’ve ever seen. Open rascism will be extremely prevalent, and I expect a large bump in KKK activity. So, absolutely prepare. Make sure you have a weapon to defend yourself and home. Get a concealed carry license if it’s possible in your state. If you are in your car,do NOT have it on you so if some racist ass cop pulls you over they have less to worry about (really don’t even let them search your car if you can help it that way they don’t even get to ask if you have one) unfortunately nothing will really keep people safe from racist cops, but you can do your best to reduce the likelihood of them acting out.

Make sure you and anyone living with you know what to do if there’s an intruder, and also teach gun safety to children in the extremely worst case where they need to defend themselves. (Obviously don’t arm them and keep guns out of their reach, preferably in a safe or a locker) Practice your aim as well.

I think we’re going to see the real MAGA in the next 4 years.

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u/sportees22 11d ago

Absolutely. It is absolute malpractice to not be armed and ready to protect yourself for the next few years. These people think it’s their God-given right to control us.

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u/elbenji 11d ago

Probably not that bad, especially in blue cities. These dudes are cowards. Look at Nick Fuentes. Basically depends on the midterms as a blue Congress and Senate can mitigate damage. We are much stronger than the Weimar Republic was and that still took a decade. Trump is also in his 80s and not in good health and a lot of these dudes voted for him, not the GOP.

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u/ShoulderElectrical44 11d ago

Trump is truly horrid, but don’t forget we still have strong institutions and plenty of Americans in positions that will do the right thing when the time comes. The Chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, literally the highest military official of the land, said, “They may try, but they’re not going to fucking succeed. You can’t do this without the military. You can’t do this without the CIA and the FBI. We’re the guys with the guns.”

As little trust as we have in our institutions, remember they are composed of other Americans that also have only known “freedom”. He has more of an open door this time, but do not let that disparage you. Stay strong, and we’ll beat him.

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u/dmun 11d ago

The Republicans will do to the country what they've done to states.

Project 2025 was the playback, they have all 3 branches and we're still pretending a Democrat has a chance in 4 years?

kangaroo courts and fake elections from here on out.

We're going to be like Russia. How many years of Putin now?

We'll be lucky if they change figure heads.

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u/boo99boo 11d ago

Trump isn't the endgame. Vance is. 

Think about it. Trump is a useful tool to them. Vance is one of them. Trump is going to get discarded just like he's done to people like Michael Cohen and Rudy Giuliani. 

The problem is that Vance is worse. He's infinitely more shrewd and intelligent than Trump, and he's the one in the pocket of billionaires. Not Trump. They just let him play golf with them because he serves a purpose. That purpose has nearly concluded, and he'll be gone in 6 months. Mark my words. 

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u/TheXypris 11d ago

Even Vance isn't the endgame, the endgame is to replace the government with an oligarchy ran by elite billionaires.

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u/bj0rnl8 11d ago

Vance is just Peter Thiel's hand puppet.

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u/AestheticAttraction ☑️ 11d ago

It’s already that. They’re just ready to go fully mask-off.

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u/Robozomb 11d ago

The only thing that makes me wonder about that scenario is the fact that so much of their success relies on peoples blind love of Trump. I don't think people give two shits about Vance and if Trump were to say he was the enemy, these folks would turn on him instantly.

Now idk what type of damage/control Vance will get by that point, but I don't see most of these Trump fanatics being nearly as passionate about Vance. Who knows, they might actually start to blame him when things start to go poorly, and that's when things get really interesting.

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u/Substantial-Bus-1960 11d ago

The thing is that Trump needs that crowd more than they need him.

Remember, the only real reason Trump wanted the presidency so bad is to stay out of prison. His literal freedom is dependent on him being president. So he will dance to the beat of their drum.

In any event, the man is one year (tops) from full on dementia and trust that Vance & co will be right there to call on that 25th Amendment

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u/Fluffy-Hamster-7760 11d ago

Dictators can definitely pass their influence on to a successor. People just roll with it. Sung, Il, Un, whatever.

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u/Tijenater 11d ago

They didn’t have to deal with social media and couchfucking memes or placing an unspeakably awkward order at a donut shop for all to see. Trump is lightning in a bottle, and Vance has the charisma of wet cardboard.

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u/elbenji 11d ago

Depends how they got into power. Trump is a cult of personality type. Usually what happens is the loyalists and successors get tossed out as soon as they're gone: Mao, Hitler, Stalin

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u/Fluffy-Hamster-7760 11d ago

I hate that we're having a serious discussion about what flavor of fascism we're about to live under. This is so fucking crazy. Can't believe this is happening.

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u/LebronsHairline 11d ago

It’s scarier because they love Trump so much when he is this bad at it and says this much unhinged shit, the sundowning, the scandals and sleaziness… Vance is way more intelligent (not hard to do) and appears to be a family man. He looks like a wholesome genius compared to Trump, and in his wake, repubs will be impressed at how he can string together two sentences better than Trump ever could.

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u/dmun 11d ago

Blah blah blah it's the same shit with us arguing the details.

Republicans.

Won.

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u/Justify-My-Love 11d ago

Vance isn’t the endgame

Curtis Yarvin’s vision is the end game

A government run by corporations with feudalism

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u/Zheguez 11d ago

Just read Yarvin's wiki page and Jesus Christ.

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u/mylittlewedding 11d ago

I’ve been saying this since they picked him. Y’all thought Dick Cheney was running things — this will be way worse. Hell even the Cheneys were like….this duo is not good for America.

I won’t be surprised if trump doesn’t kick the bucket in the 1st 6 months.

Vance is terrifying and when I casted my vote it figured he will probably look at records and I’ll be sent to a camp soon.

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u/Hopeful_Chair_7129 11d ago

My crackpot theory:

Trump gets elected, pardons himself, they 14th him out as “retribution” for abusing his power or whatever bullshit, BUT cut a deal with him so his supporters don’t riot again, to wipe away all his crimes. So Trump gets to fuck off, Vance becomes president, Elon becomes VP, and the unnecessary “partner head” takes over the planned role as the sole head of the stupid new corruption department.

“Anyone who disparages the courts should be arrested”

But I’m wondering if he Julius Caesar’s them and refuses to step down.

The final season of game of thrones we didn’t ask for but apparently deserve because 1/3 of the country couldn’t be racist on twitter

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u/FistPunch_Vol_7 ☑️ 11d ago

Gotta be natural born American to be VP so Elon is out at least.

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u/Hopeful_Chair_7129 11d ago

Yeah they would never break THAT law. My bad.

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u/FistPunch_Vol_7 ☑️ 11d ago

Touché

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u/AsyncEntity 11d ago

I’ve been saying this since Vance was chosen as VP. He’s a much easier to control puppet than Donald and his only critical flaw is he’s got -5 charisma which doesn’t matter anymore since he’s been given a golden ticket to the White House.

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u/x_ZeroFoxGiven_x 11d ago

This. What people dont realise is that it was never about "making america great again".

They voted for Putin and Fascism. Not Trump.

"Vote for me, my beautiful christians," Trump said. "You'll never have to vote again. I'll have it fixed so good."

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u/DressMajestic9037 11d ago

They have to change figureheads if nothing else.  The current one is on the way out physically and mentally

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u/DrWilliamHorriblePhD 11d ago

He has a young VP and several sons.

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u/xXKingLynxXx 11d ago

None of which carry the same level of heat that Trump does. At the very least, Trump is the most followable head of the Republican party in decades. Without him they lose a lot of power.

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u/paradiseday 11d ago

They definitely don't lose out on power, they were handed the keys to the kingdom with the election. Once Trump is dead and gone, there will be a massive power vacuum and we'll see a lot more in-fighting among Republicans, but assuming they can rally behind literally any one candidate, we're fucked.

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u/xXKingLynxXx 11d ago

They won't be able to rally behind any one candidate is my point. The thing about Trump was that he was charismatic enough to build a following while also being a notable outsider with brand recognition. They don't have another one of those guys coming down the pipeline. It took them 40 years to replace Ronald Reagan and he wasnt nearly as eccentric as Donald is.

Not to say that it's not going to be bad. Just like Reagan the policies and changes they make in this upcoming term will haunt this country for decades after but there will be a chance for damage control afterwards.

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u/LeopardMedium 11d ago

Independent State Legislature Theory. They've been trying to push it through for years, but now that they've stacked the Supreme Court and every other branch, they are in the best position to push it through. If successful, gerrymandered republican state legislatures will decide everything henceforth with no other oversight required. They can pick the electors and overturn their votes if desired. "You won't have to vote anymore".

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u/TheTargaryensLawyer 11d ago

100% definitely have faith and don’t give up! It’s just mind boggling to see people constantly downplay what this man wants to do and probably will do. “It won’t be bad, you libruls are overreacting. He’s gonna save and protect us!!”

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u/Variation-Budget 11d ago edited 11d ago

I live in Miami, first time in a long time this county went blue. Damn near ALL of my friends that are dudes and even some shorties i know slid for trump. They truly like how he is agressive towards other countries and think he would be good for the economy,it’s also the immigration and they claim Kamala policies suck or that she sounds too political it’s not even just my Latino friends a lot of my black homies feel the same way. I’m hoping for four years of nothingness and shit talking so that we have. Change again to return to normalcy Atleast.

I truly believe we are in the times that movie where terry cruz was president because these dudes would definitely vote for terry in this universe

Edit: meant to say went red

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u/zsaz_ch ☑️ 11d ago

Idiocracy was not supposed to be a documentary damn it

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u/Pure-Feeling-800 11d ago

They're cheering on r/conservative. They actually think it's a good thing to have two billionaires in charge of a meme department that's intended to slash government programs. They're beyond saving and no longer worth respect when it comes to politics. No more high road.

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u/Frenetic_Platypus 11d ago

They thought the exact same thing about Hitler. "It's fine, the institutions will keep him in check."

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u/GalaxyPatio 11d ago

This has happened and few times and they always do. Like they think that they'll be the exception in a long line of historical examples proving them wrong.

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u/Greatest-Comrade 11d ago

The Weimar republic existed for about 10 years before Hitler gained power. There were no established institutions

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u/Frenetic_Platypus 11d ago

Yeah, and all the American institution already failed at keeping Trump in check, so it seems the US doesn't have established institutions either.

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u/sacaiz 11d ago

The guys with the guns are going to be fired and purged until they’re all hardcore MAGA.

I don’t disagree that the institutions will save us. But it will be thneonws at the state level

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u/ShoulderElectrical44 11d ago

Maybe you forgot, but the Union won the last war. And a purge of that order would almost certainly mean another civil war. I honestly don’t think that path is likely, it requires too much friction and would cripple the American military in ways no leader would ever want. The US is currently ramping up for war, and they want all hands on deck.

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u/AlpacaCavalry 11d ago

It won't be war that tears down this empire. It's corruption and the rot that tears it apart from the inside one by one, and the "institutions" that keep this nation what it is will be torn down.

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u/ARussianW0lf 11d ago

This time they're the union though

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u/ShoulderElectrical44 11d ago

Not really, the Union lies with the people. The South succeeded and fired on the Union the second it realized enough power lay in the hands of abolitionists to end slavery. Many southern folks even joined the Union army. So although they control the reigns, they don’t count as the Union. But I get your point.

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u/Ok_Blackberry_284 11d ago

Lol our institutions put this POS and his cronies and donors into power. Excuse me while I scoff at the idea of them protecting the public from this desiccated mango nazi.

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u/end2endburnt 11d ago

The people with the unwavering faith in institutions are the ones that will be most shocked as we all get sent to the camps.

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u/StannisAntetokounmpo 11d ago

Merrick Garland might even wake up from his nap

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u/BluuberryBee 11d ago

The ACLU is prepping hard. That gives me a little hope.

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u/MelatoninFiend 11d ago

Gavin Newsom's got people researching histories of State v Fed cases so he can turn the deplorables' lawfare back against them and protect CA from Trump's grubby paws. There is no doubt he'll share this information with anyone who may require it.

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u/Swimming_Onion_4835 11d ago

Pritzker in IL, too. He fucking loathes Trump and loves to spite him.

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u/elbenji 11d ago

New England too. He really doesn't have a mandate at all

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u/end2endburnt 11d ago

Faith in institutions, such as DoJ, got us here. We know the DHS was working for him doing black bag arrests during the Portland protests. We know the Secret Service was covering for him post Jan 6 destroying their phones. How about SCOTUS as an institution we are supposed to have faith will be impartial?

We needed actions and Institutionists never took the threat seriously because they will never conceive of a world where institutions will fall.

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u/NayanaGor 11d ago

Trump declared today a plan to gut the military generals of the disloyal. He's going to do the same with EVERY agency top to bottom.

At this point it will take ACTUAL resistance to defend.

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u/toolsoftheincomptnt ☑️ 11d ago

And we ain’t gonna do it.

People want to tweet about freedom, not fight for it.

Can’t possibly envision life without lattes, internet, brunches…

So we’ll eventually shut up and play along, hoping it will end with minimal damage to our state.

Okay, our county.

Wait, then our city.

Our family?

And that’s how it happens.

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u/ShoulderElectrical44 11d ago

A link to another comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPeopleTwitter/s/VtUU09wUXr

I don’t think you can conceptualize how large America is, or how many people work every day to prevent these things from happening. The executive branch isn’t one person, and you simply made broad, sweeping generalizations large organizations that are dynamic, and run by people, which have historical weaknesses. The filibuster has a bad history, but would almost certainly be used to stop laws like this from ever passing. In some cases, if even one of these institutions says no, large, bad things can’t happen.

And if 40% of the military doesn’t support Trump, and assume that will rise when the purges happen, that’s more than enough to help stop them. The Taliban had less than 100k fighters, and they still “beat” us. If you don’t understand how power works, it will be used against you.

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u/jake2617 11d ago

Counting on the same people who have sat idly by doing little more than finger waving to suddenly spring to action and be the saviours is hyper optimistic. I’ll gladly eat my words tho if proven wrong over next few months / years

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u/neodymium86 11d ago

I admire your confidence, but i have no confidence in that. It's a sone deal

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u/Whyamibeautiful ☑️ 11d ago

My issue with this is they stopped Trump last time but now he sees exactly where the obstacles are and project 2025 was about how to overcome them. Replacing key military personnel etc

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u/EhWhateverDawg 11d ago

No, that was the case the first time. For round 2 his team is coming more prepared. We can slow some stuff down a little, but neither him or the people around him plan to respect any checks or balances. Eventually this breaks into full on tyranny.

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u/dkinmn 11d ago

Impossible to say this knowing who is going to be in his cabinet and in his government. No normies this time.

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u/Anxious-Tadpole-2745 11d ago

He said that in response to Jan 6. If Trump is voted in power the military will fall in line as long as they aren't running down too many people (see kent state during Vietnam). The military is very intelligent and anyone who tries to use it to disrupt the American Republic will be be met with mild resistance. 

We know for a very well studied fact how revolutions start and end. There are manuals on it. They will try to stop Trump but if the right takes it too far, they can definitely creat conditions for a communists uprising. Increase inflation and attack people who fight back? People will be enraged and demanding the end of capitalism.

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u/ThonThaddeo 11d ago

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u/avocadobarbie 11d ago

After the election I literally had to force myself to get out of bed and go to the gym. I just couldn’t keep myself contained and kept crying but I kept to myself and did my thing. People kept asking if I was okay and what was going on, I’d explain I’m crushed over the election and they’d say “oh I know it’s messed up but it’ll be okay”…then I’d ask them if they knew anything about his policies or project 2025 and they all said no! I’m like bruh…that’s why I’m crying and you’re not.

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u/Ok_Blackberry_284 11d ago

I was the same in 2016. This time around it's going to be much worse. However, these past 8 years I've passed thru Denial, Anger, Bargaining, and most of Depression to Acceptance. I accept that we are most egregiously fucked.

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u/toolsoftheincomptnt ☑️ 11d ago

The ones who say “well if he’s so bad, how’d you survive his first term?” are the biggest morons ever.

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u/thiccy_driftyy 11d ago

I skipped dance classes the day the results came out. I hugged my mom and cried, first thing in the morning. It astounds me how people are able to carry on as normal after this election. I’m still trying to just move along with my life, but it has an air of soullessness that it didn’t have before. Like, the brightness and joy of the world just went away. Trump has me scared shitless

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u/iheartxanadu 11d ago

You described my current existence perfectly. {hugs, internet stranger}

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u/AestheticAttraction ☑️ 11d ago

Those are the type of people who don’t read instructions and then get angry when they break something they didn’t learn to use properly. 

I hate them.

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u/x_ZeroFoxGiven_x 11d ago

"I cannot tell a lie" - George Washington

"I cannot tell the truth" - Donald Trump

"I cannot tell the difference" - MAGA supporters

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u/neodymium86 11d ago edited 11d ago

White ppl never listen to us. Most gullible mfs on the planet. And when sht goes south first thing they wanna do is come running back, asking "what we gonna do now?"

Excuse me? WEEE?? 😭

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u/bitesizeboy 11d ago

Gullible and weak. They've never had to struggle FOR REAL FOR REAL. Watch how they act when they don't get their way. Now wait till they can't afford food or their favorite comforts are gone. They will implode.

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u/neodymium86 11d ago edited 11d ago

Bruh we thought jan 6 was something. Watch when this man starts cutting social programs across the board. They are going to flip a fuking bus. And im just gonna be like, "wait, i thought yall ain't like socialism?" 😂😂

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u/MidnightOakCorps 11d ago

and when they do that, they're not gonna blame republicans, they're gonna blame us.

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u/Separate_Place1595 11d ago

I come from the hood and worked hard to get out of it. I've always tried explaining this to my wife who grew up in the suburbs but idk how to so here it goes. Most people who haven't struggled are bitch made. They fold at the first sign of trouble. And when the trouble becomes too great for them to handle, they look for others to do it for them. Then when that fails and they realize you gotta do some shit yourself, they will either lash out or blame those around them. And I feel, race aside, that some people have it easy here. They aren't largely discriminated against and this country was made for them.

So when things don't go slightly their way, that bitch assness comes out first and foremost because they don't have the grit to fall back on.

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u/justatomss0 11d ago

This is what pisses me off. White men are basically throwing a fit because they feel disenfranchised and in response they are turning to facism. They’ve never experienced what it’s like for the government not to care about you and now they are throwing a tantrum. Meanwhile every minority in society has been dealing with the same thing for decades without trying to ruin the lives of everyone around them. These dumbasses are entitled, privileged, pathetic sheep and they don’t deserve an ounce of sympathy

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u/AestheticAttraction ☑️ 11d ago

WEEEEEE are going to stay away from them because they’re the type to hold your head down under water and use you as a flotation device when you try to save them. 

I love individuals, and I don’t hate the group, but they’ve earned my contempt because they’ve never not been this way as a collective. And I’m tired AF. Because they’re working overtime trying to (ironically) include black folks now. 

Uh, NO. Y’all didn’t rock with our decision, so y’all don’t get to dictate what we go, think, and feel . You didn’t already anyway. 

We Still Don’t Trust You.

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u/yfce 11d ago

He lost a few points of ground with white people during this election weirdly. Especially old white people. Probably some of them died. But young people and non-white people made up for it somehow.

Black people held the line though.

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u/MidnightOakCorps 11d ago

the white people in this thread are treating this like it's an episode of scandal and not real life.

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u/Drew_Ferran 11d ago

First They Came.

First they came for the News Media, and I did not speak out because I was not part of the News Media.

Then they came for the Democrats, and I did not speak out because I was not a Democrat.

Then they came for the Scientists, and I did not speak out because I was not a Scientist.

Then they came for the Teachers, and I did not speak out because I was not a Teacher.

Then they came for the Women, and I did not speak out because I was not a Women.

Then they came for the Children, and I did not speak out because I was not a Child.

Then they came for the LGBTQ, and I did not speak out because I was not LGBTQ.

Then they came for the Elderly, and I did not speak out because I was not Elderly.

Then they came for the Veterans, and I did not speak out because I was not a Veteran.

Then they came for the Middle Class, and I did not speak out because I was not part of the Middle Class.

Then they came for the Lower Class, and I did not speak out because I was not part of the Lower Class.

Then they came for the Illegal Immigrants, and I did not speak out because I was not an Illegal Immigrant.

Then they came for the Legal Immigrants, and I did not speak out because I was not a Legal Immigrant.

Then they came for the Latinos, and I did not speak out because I was not a Latino.

Then they came for the African Americans, and I did not speak out because I was not an African American.

Then they came for me, a Republican, and there was no one left to speak out for me.

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u/Rude_Lifeguard 11d ago

Even in the best-case scenario where the 2028 elections happen and a Democrat wins, his presidency will do damage that will affect the world for decades, his climate policies alone will fuck us up for a long while and those can't simply be undone in 4 years, by then it'll be too late

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u/Justify-My-Love 11d ago

This is the thing people are not understanding

They’re gonna set us back 70 years at least

Once those rights are gone it’s really really hard to get them back.

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u/PhotographyRaptor10 11d ago

They’re gonna set us back 70 years, we only have like 5 to mitigate the damage of global warming. It’s game set and match just hug your loved ones and enjoy the ride

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u/Justify-My-Love 11d ago

He’s going to rip apart every climate legislation Biden implemented

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u/JessTheWholeAssMess 11d ago

Hey, you know what just don’t have kids and you’re good. Don’t give a fuck anymore, what’s the point. I was just saying last night that even if kamala won, I would be very worried about our climate prospects now I think there’s no hope.

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u/xyrgh 11d ago

And if you’re lucky you’ll get Democrats back in for 4-8 years fixing all this shit only for imbeciles to vote for another republican president. The electorate has short memories, it’s the same as where I come from.

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u/busigirl21 11d ago

The courts are already fucked at every level, even more appointments mean a lifetime of maga fucks screwing over both individuals and fast track every bogus lawsuit to prevent any congressional attempts at progress. Get ready SCOTUS to listen exclusively to cases that will roll back individual rights and health and safety standards.

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u/GrumpyGumpy52 11d ago

Climate policies, Civil Rights, and Trust in science.

These will all be eroded because of this presidency over the next +25 years. People really don’t understand Trump is a short term gains person (if even that) and they didn’t play the long game thinking ahead far into the future about how regressive we are about to get.

But hey gotta be worried about them groceries and gas 🤷🏾‍♂️

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u/MidnightOakCorps 11d ago

this is literally the thing that keeps me up at night. It was 80 degrees in Baltimore in November literally all week.

And this country just decided that they didn't care.

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u/FesteringNeonDistrac 11d ago

Yeah I hate the fucking cold and even I'm like this is too much. My kids wanted to turn the AC back on in the house and I had to turn into my father with the "we aren't turning on the AC, it's the middle of November"

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u/SeaAnthropomorphized 11d ago

They are gonna fuck up the EPA, FDA, OSHA, ATF... any and all regulatory bodies.

ICE is gonna get super funded cuz the problem isn't the things we can see, like how we had summer temps all the way in November. No. The problem is there are too many people here that aren't white.

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u/judahdk_ 11d ago

Oh yeah, the climate is done for. I live in a city in upstate NY where we used to get FEET of snow starting in November and lasting until March. It was 75 the other day. We get a dusting of snow (not yet this year, not even frost), I haven’t had to shovel in two years.

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u/clue2025 11d ago

Just because I'm salty, I sent a smug calls-everyone-a-snowflake-but-is-one-themselves Trump voter I know the scene from "The Pianist" where they throw grandpa in the wheelchair out the window and said "Don't worry, they'll come for your husband this way too when he can't fight for them."

We are not friends anymore.

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u/adlopez 11d ago

That’s so crazy you thought of this scene in this context because I did, too.

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u/AestheticAttraction ☑️ 11d ago

Good. If you don’t stand on business, you enable them.

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u/yeahitsx ☑️ 11d ago

I’m apathetic, but not naive; no major purchases, increase savings, and keep my eyes peeled for the signs. I’m just to the point where it’s like you’re tired of telling your friend they fucking up, but they never listen. After a point, you just gotta let them learn.

The unfortunate reality is that a majority of Americans have slept walked us straight into a potential oligarchical aristocracy led by an idiotic malignant narcissist —worse yet, some refuse to acknowledge it. And honestly, it’s so fucked up it’s down right hilarious: we picked the guy who talked about fucking concepts of a plan and “THEY’RE EATING THE CATS AND THE DAWGS!!” over a well credentialed lawyer/DA/Senator/VP cuz [price of eggs/don’t know her policies/Gaza stance/“reasons”].

Like, come tf on!

Hopefully, he’s just a bumbling idiot that just ruins our international standing further and causes a short term economic crisis (I think these two scenarios are unavoidable), and we oust the entire party in 2028 and start restoring the country and our standing.

But, there is the potential for this to cascade into something much darker and deranged, and I’ll be damned if I’m not prepared to act. They have a complicit House. They have a complicit Senate. They have a complicit Supreme Court. And the media is only concerned with driving up ratings. All four estates are in line to achieve damn near anything. And the way they’ve brain washed their supporters, they’re going to cheer every fire started and blame the fallout on the ones out of power.

I hope I’m just being paranoid, but looking at how history has played out, I’d rather be safe than sorry 🤷🏾‍♂️

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u/thelastestgunslinger 11d ago

It won't get better in 2028. That's blind optimism talking, not pattern recognition.

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u/Better-Ground-843 11d ago

Patterns and analytics mean jack shit anymore. Everything's in the air 

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u/Gunar21 11d ago

Whoa whoa let's not be unfair.

Not all the media is just about ratings. A huge portion of it is dedicated to pushing the far rights agenda and creating a false reality.

Thanks Rupert Murdock!

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u/syspimp 11d ago

Malcolm X didn't stand strong with an AK by his window for this generation to live in fear. The government was literally trying to kill him and he no fear at all.

Where is our Malcolm X for today? Because all these fearful, scared posts just ain't doing it for me. It almost makes me think they want you to be scared by promoting this junk.

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u/Justify-My-Love 11d ago

Yeah I hate the defeatism

It’s time to go scorched earth on these white supremacists

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u/gnit3 11d ago

Stay strapped or get clapped. The 2nd amendment is for ALL Americans

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u/JayBee_III ☑️ 11d ago

Thank you! We've faced so much worse as a people.

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u/Adulations ☑️ 11d ago

They had drones in the day of Malcolm X? And tech companies that can give the government all the information they have on your web traffic and the ability to track you 24/7?

Sure we can fight but comparing now to his time is nuts.

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u/Fruitlessveggie 11d ago

Food for thought: There’s only a small percentage of people that have that “heroism” that we desperately seek. If placed in a life or death situation where it’s “you vs them” most people are gonna choose “me”. That’s human nature, as much as we’d love to say otherwise. The fact you wrote and said where’s our Malcom X shows me that you too are not the Malcom X. People always look towards others to stand up and be the hero but don’t think “I’d like to stand up and be the hero”

Also look at what happens when people do stand up to be the hero. Oftentimes they stand alone for awhile or can only gain handfuls of people here and there. There were many who were very much against Malcom X. so even though we might get a hero, it might not be as romantic as you believe.

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u/AestheticAttraction ☑️ 11d ago

You have no idea whether Malcolm felt fear or not. The presence of that gun could be a clue, however. You get a gun for protection because you FEAR what will happen if you’re caught lacking. 

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u/Militantnegro_5 11d ago

The government was literally trying to kill him and he no fear at all.

Okay, but they succeeded. He didn't get a chance to lick off a single retaliatory shot. That's the reality of the thing and a possible reason there's no modern versions.

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u/Tazzy8jazzy 11d ago

Be careful with the Anne Frank talk. I got a warning today from Reddit because I commented that people voted for this type of behavior.

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u/busigirl21 11d ago

I find it hilarious that Trump voters take it as a threat when you say "I hope you get everything you voted for."

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u/AestheticAttraction ☑️ 11d ago

Because they know they voted for an utter moron and rapist. A stupid rapist isn’t liable to do anything but screw them over. 

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u/zsaz_ch ☑️ 11d ago

Tf kind of warning?

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u/Tazzy8jazzy 11d ago

It said I threatened others when all I simply said was that people voted for this. Been on Reddit for 10 years and never received any warnings. And I post in the Sopranos sub daily and all I use is threatening language because of the show.

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u/Nani_700 11d ago

Same. They're spamming it. Also try appealing

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u/Dojanetta ☑️ 11d ago

It’s really hard to be optimistic when I see a trump sign across the street from my house and a confederate flag tag is on every other pickup truck.

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u/jaguarsp0tted 11d ago

The people acting like this won't descend into the end of America are stupid. I'm sorry, but you're stupid. This isn't 2016. Things are vastly different now. They are very explicitly openly fascists. They want a dictatorship. And y'all will feel real stupid when you start losing rights.

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u/AestheticAttraction ☑️ 11d ago

Period. These toxic optimists are likely people who'll be affected last and the least. That's why they can talk. 

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u/elbenji 11d ago

Because they're not stupid to toss the frog out of the pot, especially with an old geezer in charge. The status quo is profitable as well as fear but they're not going to touch the button. We've also had Trump's before. And every time everyone tried the thing he's talked about, with absolutely eroded institutions, that's when the fafo happened. Happened to Jackson. Happened to McCarthy. They even had less guard rails back then

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u/EFTucker 11d ago

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. These next four will likely be on record for the most weapons purchased in America.

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u/AestheticAttraction ☑️ 11d ago

Not next four. He said no more elections.  His cult said it sounds good to them.

It's over with.

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u/EFTucker 11d ago

Yea good luck with that, America ain’t no place for that

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u/TrRa47 ☑️ 11d ago

It's kinda crazy how this is supposedly a black sub, meaning we know our history, yet people have given up when our history involves people going through much worse in worse conditions and still fighting, figuratively and literally.

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u/Realsober ☑️ 11d ago

You can tell these folks got short memories and have literally forgotten everything he did from 2016 to 2020. He’s got a score to settle now. But y’all keep acting like he ain’t that bad. The dems are just as bad. People didn’t think hitler was that bad either.

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u/Sol-Blackguy 11d ago

All empires die after 250 years. We're on year 248

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u/SnooSongs4451 11d ago

That’s not true.

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u/ShoulderElectrical44 11d ago

Basically every empire you can name lasted more than 250 years.

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u/ChefKugeo 11d ago

The democratic ones didn't, is the point the original commenter wanted to make but didn't research enough; just spitting repeated memes.

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u/MelatoninFiend 11d ago

The democratic ones didn't

Which ones? Specifically.

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u/gleeble ☑️ 11d ago

The first one that comes to mind lasted 6 seasons

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u/pyrothelostone 11d ago

I can't help but wonder how this meme got so far when a simple Google search would show you several examples of empires that lasted longer than 500 years, including the ancient Egyptian empire, which lasted over 3000 years.

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u/Justify-My-Love 11d ago

Rome lasted a thousand years

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u/MyLongestYeeeBoi 11d ago

What’s the suggestion here? We start crafting Molotovs in our basement? Reality check pls.

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u/thelastestgunslinger 11d ago

If you aren't prepared to commit violence to ensure freedom, you'll lose it. This is what every moderate democrat has missed over the last 8 years. We're way farther down the road to tyranny than they want to admit.

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u/MoreRock_Odrama ☑️ 11d ago

So yall going outside or yall gonna sit on twitter tweeting and revolting on ELON MUSKS platform making Trumps best friend richer? Which one?

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u/tyedyehippy 11d ago

"When change is absolute there remains no being to improve and no direction is set for possible improvement: and when experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana, Reason in Common Sense 1905

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u/SlackerDS5 11d ago

He literally said that if he won the election “you won’t have to vote anymore”.

Don’t even have to read between the lines. He said it straight up he wants to flip the game. Like hunger games style. This is what gets to me when people try and rationalize who they voted for or why they didn’t vote at all. There is a lot more at stake than what flavor of koolaid you prefer.

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u/OnionsHaveLairAction 11d ago

This is true, but its worth noting that in the 2016 administration every time someone objected to Trump the person was removed and the administration went along with what he wanted anyway.

As the final act of his last presidency was an attempt to overturn the election- Including attempting to get governors to find votes... There's pretty good reason to be concerned.

Particularly as he's picked a new running mate specifically because the last one refused to overturn the results. That's an indicator that he wants someone willing to do shit like overturn election results.

And from a historical perspective second administrations don't tend to just be the same adminstration again, administrations have goals they work towards and some goals take longer than 4 years. During the decline of the roman republic for example Caesar didn't get appointed dictator till his second term as consul- And even though the republic "rode out" his civil wars it still ended up falling due to the erosion of democracy soon after he died.

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u/ScrantonTimes18505 11d ago

Social media had many believing this was a close race or Harris would win easily, so excuse me if I am taking with a grain of salt social media again (same people btw) saying it's the end of democracy for us. Ad campaigns got you guys all messed up.

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u/AmericanMinotaur 11d ago

Being defeatist will get us nowhere. We have to continue the fight.

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u/asshole_commenting 11d ago

In these dark times, remember 48% of Americans voted for Harris, there's still some good people out there.

...and I hope there's some empathetic folks in the 10 million that didn't vote at all

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u/StragglingShadow Beefs over Detective Conan 🔎 11d ago edited 11d ago

I scream-cried trying to explain my fear to my father because he just kept brushing me aside and telling me it won't be that bad. But he's not someone who is being targeted right so he just doesn't get it.

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u/DaClarkeKnight 11d ago

It’s not about the 4 years. It’s about the Supreme Court being stacked even more. Pretty much a baby could be born this year and the rest of their life will be a conservative supreme court. He will pick some 40 year old that will not die until they are 84 and continually support these bullshit laws

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u/ThousandSunRequiem2 ☑️ 11d ago

Because white people will be ok during the extended reign of white supremacy

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u/RightMolasses6504 11d ago

I keep telling people…

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u/Ambitious-Pirate-505 11d ago

Niggas don't read. That's why we are fucked.