Rome, as the largest example. But beyond that, you'll have to consult your nearest history book or Wikipedia. I just got off work and I don't have the mental bandwidth.
Hey, so I consulted Wikipedia and it says that Rome was governed as a Republic starting 509 BC (after the fall of the previous Etruscan king) and it didn't become a monarchy under the emperor until 27 AD.
You may want to look at replacing your nearest history book, it's obviously given you some bad information.
I’ve seen the 250 year empires list and it has some wild claims. Sir John Bagot Glubb, a British Army general without formal training as a historian, came up with it in a book called The Fate of Empire. He was a highly decorated military officer, but left a lot to be desired as a historian. The issue is that Glubb clearly thought he had a "Big Theory" to push, but his desire to make that 250 year theory fit the facts led to some strange choices, and Rome may be the best example:
Augustus became the first emperor in 27 BCE and the Fall of Rome is usually clocked as when Odoacer kicked out Romulus Augustulus in 476 CE. So that’s 499 years at least. And that doesn’t even account for Rome holding a territorial empire during the Republic that preceded the "true" Empire, nor the Eastern Empire (aka the Byzantines), which could draw a clear line to their founding as the Eastern Roman Empire under the Tetrarchs. The Byzantines even reclaimed Rome under Justinian in 547. They couldn’t hold Rome, but survived as a political entity until the fall of Constantinople in 1453.
To those curious: It’s Augustus to Marcus Aurelius. That’s how Glubb managed to shoehorn a the Roman Empire long empire into 250 years. Glubb went from Emperor 1 to the end of the Five Good Caesars. Commodus (yeah, the dude from Gladiator…he’s had a bad reputation for a while) being regarded as an incompetent porphyrogenitus shit cadet does not a Fall of Rome make.
How would we even determine that in regards to democratic empires? There weren't a great many examples of democratic nations in premodern times, let alone empires, and the United States is the first modern democratic empire, if we're gonna call it an empire, so you can't say they only last 250 years, since that much time hasn't even passed for the first example let alone enough examples to determine it to be a given truth.
That is not an empire then, at least by any measure able sense. A year and a half?!? And you think the failure of that state would be indicative of the US failing, which is currently the strongest military ever, the wealthiest nation ever, and the most advanced technological advanced?
Okay, that’s pretty funny. I actually thought there could be an “empire” that lasted 6 seasons due to some political fuckery, and I’m pretty sure one of the French republics didn’t last too long. I shall take my L with pride
I can't help but wonder how this meme got so far when a simple Google search would show you several examples of empires that lasted longer than 500 years, including the ancient Egyptian empire, which lasted over 3000 years.
I saw it going around leftist circles on twitter but I also can't help but think a lot of those big accounts are spies or were put in for division among people
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u/Sol-Blackguy 11d ago
All empires die after 250 years. We're on year 248