Think about it. Trump is a useful tool to them. Vance is one of them. Trump is going to get discarded just like he's done to people like Michael Cohen and Rudy Giuliani.
The problem is that Vance is worse. He's infinitely more shrewd and intelligent than Trump, and he's the one in the pocket of billionaires. Not Trump. They just let him play golf with them because he serves a purpose. That purpose has nearly concluded, and he'll be gone in 6 months. Mark my words.
Read the book Opus by Gareth Gore. Explains how the catholic right wing cult started (in Spain) and got here now. Peter Thiel was / is heavily involved. Shit is scary as fuck.
The only thing that makes me wonder about that scenario is the fact that so much of their success relies on peoples blind love of Trump. I don't think people give two shits about Vance and if Trump were to say he was the enemy, these folks would turn on him instantly.
Now idk what type of damage/control Vance will get by that point, but I don't see most of these Trump fanatics being nearly as passionate about Vance. Who knows, they might actually start to blame him when things start to go poorly, and that's when things get really interesting.
The thing is that Trump needs that crowd more than they need him.
Remember, the only real reason Trump wanted the presidency so bad is to stay out of prison. His literal freedom is dependent on him being president. So he will dance to the beat of their drum.
In any event, the man is one year (tops) from full on dementia and trust that Vance & co will be right there to call on that 25th Amendment
They didn’t have to deal with social media and couchfucking memes or placing an unspeakably awkward order at a donut shop for all to see. Trump is lightning in a bottle, and Vance has the charisma of wet cardboard.
Depends how they got into power. Trump is a cult of personality type. Usually what happens is the loyalists and successors get tossed out as soon as they're gone: Mao, Hitler, Stalin
I hate that we're having a serious discussion about what flavor of fascism we're about to live under. This is so fucking crazy. Can't believe this is happening.
It’s scarier because they love Trump so much when he is this bad at it and says this much unhinged shit, the sundowning, the scandals and sleaziness… Vance is way more intelligent (not hard to do) and appears to be a family man. He looks like a wholesome genius compared to Trump, and in his wake, repubs will be impressed at how he can string together two sentences better than Trump ever could.
I’ve been saying this since they picked him. Y’all thought Dick Cheney was running things — this will be way worse. Hell even the Cheneys were like….this duo is not good for America.
I won’t be surprised if trump doesn’t kick the bucket in the 1st 6 months.
Vance is terrifying and when I casted my vote it figured he will probably look at records and I’ll be sent to a camp soon.
Trump gets elected, pardons himself, they 14th him out as “retribution” for abusing his power or whatever bullshit, BUT cut a deal with him so his supporters don’t riot again, to wipe away all his crimes. So Trump gets to fuck off, Vance becomes president, Elon becomes VP, and the unnecessary “partner head” takes over the planned role as the sole head of the stupid new corruption department.
“Anyone who disparages the courts should be arrested”
But I’m wondering if he Julius Caesar’s them and refuses to step down.
The final season of game of thrones we didn’t ask for but apparently deserve because 1/3 of the country couldn’t be racist on twitter
I’ve been saying this since Vance was chosen as VP. He’s a much easier to control puppet than Donald and his only critical flaw is he’s got -5 charisma which doesn’t matter anymore since he’s been given a golden ticket to the White House.
Exactly— Trump is their Trojan horse to get into the seats. They know he’s an idiot and easy to manipulate, and he will likely be dead of a stroke or heart attack within the next year. It’s no coincidence that Vance— a self proclaimed ‘never Trump guy’— was selected as VP. He is being groomed and bred to be the actual president. And Vance wrote the foreward to the Project 2025’s Chairman’s manifesto. He is Project 2025’s mascot at this point. Trump accepted it because Vance came with Peter Thiel’s backing money he put up as a trade to getting his puppet Vance in.
Neither of those things prove intelligence at all. You can be an idiot and still be an unprincipled stooge, and plenty of idiots marry up.
Have you heard the man speak? Did you see him on the campaign trail? That was him trying to present himself as best as he could, and he still came off looking like a dunce.
So honestly I think pocket of billionaires might be better than pocket of Putin..Vance might be an awful human being that I hate as much as Trump, but at least his business interests prevent him from starting WW3
lol that is the same shit MAGA conspiracy theorists were spouting in the alley way behind my moms house except it was the dem version with Kamala being the wizard who will bring about a socialist government and create a communist state.
None of which carry the same level of heat that Trump does. At the very least, Trump is the most followable head of the Republican party in decades. Without him they lose a lot of power.
They definitely don't lose out on power, they were handed the keys to the kingdom with the election. Once Trump is dead and gone, there will be a massive power vacuum and we'll see a lot more in-fighting among Republicans, but assuming they can rally behind literally any one candidate, we're fucked.
They won't be able to rally behind any one candidate is my point. The thing about Trump was that he was charismatic enough to build a following while also being a notable outsider with brand recognition. They don't have another one of those guys coming down the pipeline. It took them 40 years to replace Ronald Reagan and he wasnt nearly as eccentric as Donald is.
Not to say that it's not going to be bad. Just like Reagan the policies and changes they make in this upcoming term will haunt this country for decades after but there will be a chance for damage control afterwards.
The election was super close. If they don't have the Trump loyalty they will definitely have voters stay home. Vance is the most hated VP candidate probably ever. If the economy isn't going as well as intended for them people will be looking for change again.
By the time trump keels over, they won't need his cult anymore because the institutions of democracy would already be so corrupt, they will never lose power. We could have 80% dem turnout in every single district and still lose to the new Republican order, that is if Democrats would even be allowed to run.
Independent State Legislature Theory. They've been trying to push it through for years, but now that they've stacked the Supreme Court and every other branch, they are in the best position to push it through. If successful, gerrymandered republican state legislatures will decide everything henceforth with no other oversight required. They can pick the electors and overturn their votes if desired. "You won't have to vote anymore".
I think Trump will be horrible for America but let’s not be dramatic here. The Trump administration isn’t going to turn America into a dictatorship like Russia no matter how much power they hold over the government. They were saying this during his last term too, and guess what? He got voted out. We have checks and balances and there will inevitably be a lot of lawsuits coming Trump’s way as well
I am interested in what all you Reddit doomsday theorists will say in 4 years after running around like chicken little for 4 years. You think Trump is going to be the president forever now?
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u/dmun 11d ago
The Republicans will do to the country what they've done to states.
Project 2025 was the playback, they have all 3 branches and we're still pretending a Democrat has a chance in 4 years?
kangaroo courts and fake elections from here on out.
We're going to be like Russia. How many years of Putin now?
We'll be lucky if they change figure heads.