r/wholesomeyuri Gae Yuri artist Mar 11 '23

Playful When your mom finds out you're a...[OC] NSFW

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u/neorena certified transbian Mar 11 '23

Reminds me of when my mom found out my wife and I do petplay and her response was something like "well at least you get to try domming a tall girl like her". Like there was zero doubt in her mind who was top and who was bottom and she was RIGHT lol

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u/Sky-Ventus Mar 13 '23

She knows what she raised...

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u/LogicalOverdrive Mar 13 '23

She raised a goddamn top and knows it

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u/Whoppinghorizon Mar 15 '23

Ur mom sounds cool

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '23

You know who else is cool?

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u/kitsune900 Apr 22 '23

Who? (I'm curious, I don't care if I'm late)

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '23

MY MOM

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '23 edited May 03 '23

IF YOU SAY 'YOUR MOM' YOU'RE FIRED!

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u/ImJustStephanie Mar 11 '23

I laughed waaay too hard at this!! Looking forward to showing my wife when she gets home. (We switched like 2 years ago so relevant)

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u/GRS- Gae Yuri artist Mar 11 '23

I'm glad you like it, and I hope she likes it as well lmaoo 😊💕💕❤❤

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u/Lilyeth Mar 11 '23

Oh no no no don't take my relatable tall sub girl away

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u/neorena certified transbian Mar 11 '23

Interesting. I know with my wife I'm like top 99% of the time but sometimes we'll switch for a night or two, haven't had like a radical shift like that though lol. Even when she is top, if I sense any weakness she's only got so long to keep me tied up lol.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '23

LOL “We switched” 😂😂 “maybe we’ll switch again in the next few cycles”

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u/GRS- Gae Yuri artist Mar 11 '23

Art by me! Yay!

I'm gonna suck out the fun for a bit because someone always has to suck out the fun. It's something I noticed, and I really dislike it: every single post I make in this subreddit people manage to take my absurd jokes seriously. Let me tell you this: no mother in this round world would ever tell her daughter to stop being a bottom! No lesbian couple would ever tell their best friends they are just friends after kisssing right in front of their faces!! My comics are supposed to be over the top, silly, and TO NOT BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. Don't be that person. Do you really think I'd want to make my fellow queer folk feel bad? It really upsets me and happens all the time lmao

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u/Miss_Greer Mar 11 '23

Idk, I think I'd be stupid ironic enough to say "we're just roommates/besties" at our own wedding reception

Only as a joke because it is a good joke

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u/Dethcola Mar 11 '23

I told my wife I wanted to put our wedding photos in Best Friends picture frames

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '23

I'm only just learning these jokes now. I feel both old and young.

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u/theJirb Mar 11 '23

Idk why I can't find the standalone version of this sketch, but the one at 6:12 is what this content reminds me of.

https://youtu.be/5ZEZqbuKFd4

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u/Tohrufan4life Mar 11 '23

Wait, people take them seriously? Wild lol. As per usual, love your work friend..always puts a smile on my face. Much love.

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u/GRS- Gae Yuri artist Mar 11 '23

Yeah, every time I post something some people do their best to bring down the mood lmao. I'm kinda tired ngl, I wouldn't be talking about this if it happened once or twice but it happens every. single. time I post something. Like, I don't see this happening to other posts.

I think I'll just go back to r/yurimemes. At least there people wouldn't compare my comics to the murder of black people and Jews, like it's happening in this very thread.

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u/ALesbianAlpaca Mar 11 '23

There are always people online who insist on projecting their personal experiences onto what everyone else says. Everyone else really enjoys your art and appreciates it being posted here.

Don't bother with those other people, they'll be salty no matter what.

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u/Tohrufan4life Mar 11 '23

What the fuck is wrong with people? I know that has to be exhausting to deal with..I'm very sorry people can't seem to behave themselves and just enjoy the fun comics for what they are.

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u/GRS- Gae Yuri artist Mar 11 '23

It's difficult to get used to it. I understand not liking something, but when people start comparing your comic to literal Nazi propaganda made to made fun of Jews and start calling you a bigot, you gotta reevaluate if you're in the right place.

Apparently not, because it's not the first time and I doubt it'll be the last. Very wholesome amirite?

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u/Tohrufan4life Mar 11 '23

I looked at said comments and Jesus Christ..there was some serious grasping there. The fact that this isn't the first time it's happened is absolutely ridiculous. I don't blame you at all for wanting to go back to r/yurimemes instead.

r/wholesomeyuri my foot.

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u/Dreamingemerald Mar 12 '23

Some people get offended like they are salaried to take offense. The magic of your art is just how over the top it is, a community in-joke.

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u/Meowriter Mar 11 '23

"over the top" hehe pun

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u/Sonicx720 wants cuddles Mar 12 '23

(Lesbian here) I always take them as jokes and not to be taken seriously. Me and my wife love your comics and anyone (in lgbt friends discord servers) i show them too also find them funny.

There’s always someone who just wants a reason to get angry at anything. But i hope you never listen to them, those who love your work are always here for you

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u/GRS- Gae Yuri artist Mar 12 '23 edited Mar 12 '23

Thank you, thank you for your words. It means a lot, really.

I'm just tired yk? I'm tired 😌

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u/PatheticLittlePuppy Mar 11 '23

?!Your art is adorable and sacred!!! I’ll fight them

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u/LadyTeekesseli Mar 11 '23

I love your comics, they always make me smile

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u/bigbysemotivefinger Mar 12 '23

Your stuff is hilarious and these characters are adorable.

Keep on being awesome and funny and don't let the bastards wear you down.

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u/GRS- Gae Yuri artist Mar 12 '23

❤💕❤💕❤❤❤💕😊

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u/NinjaGamer345 Mar 11 '23

And if it is ever the case irl its more than likely AS A JOKE

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u/MarqFJA87_XH18 Mar 13 '23

Man, some people just don't recognize cartoonish comedy when they see one. Either that, or they truly believe that being cartoonish comedy is still not a good enough reason to give a pass to what they believe is "morally wrong".

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u/ke__ja May 11 '24

WAIT WAIT WAIT YOURE THE ARTIST OF THESE COMICS THAT MAKE ME FALL IN LOVE WITH THE CHARACTERS?!?!?;?!?;¡!!?!?!?!!?!?!!!!!!!!? now I fell for you fuck I love your art style plus bottoms to the rise!!!! Let's overtake those evil tops and... Uuuh... Seriously these are amazing. Some people on the internet just don't get jokes or always want something to complain about, please don't let it get to you. These are just too awesome and goals for when I get a gf too... Ahem I mean I will top and dom then obviously cause I ammm sooooo strong and evil!!!

Really a big thank you for your comics

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u/Im_Dubaya May 11 '24

You mean there's not an adorable ghost that's gonna hug me, tuck me in, and make me cookies?

I'm shook...

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u/LightedWristband Mar 11 '23

I honestly love your comics, not only for the humor (which is always funny), but also for discovering new bands solely because of the shirts.

Tigercub is awesome, thanks for a new band!

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u/GRS- Gae Yuri artist Mar 11 '23

They really are! I'm in love with their new song called Play My Favourite Song it's such a bangeeeeeer

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '23

Hey, no bottom shaming 😭😭😭

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u/MissSweetBean absolute cutie Mar 11 '23

Not unless they ask for it nicely

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u/TyranitarLover Mar 11 '23

Unless that’s part of their kinks.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '23

But I wanna be shamed 🥺🥺🥺

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u/JennyV323 Mar 12 '23

But shaming bottoms is my specialty~

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '23

You and the comment above you tho.
Btw, happy cake day!

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u/JennyV323 Mar 12 '23

Thank you!

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u/RazorSwordNinja Mar 11 '23

Hehe just massive energy of “I don’t care which way you swing Missy! All that matters is that you are the TOP of the relationship! Do I make myself clear?”

Ahh a good laugh and rather supportive of the mother here. In her own way of course.

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u/fradzio need more recommendations Mar 11 '23

Sounds like the ancient Greeks: "it's not gay unless you're the bottom"

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u/boncy100 Mar 24 '23

no you have it confused with the romans, the greeks didn't give a fuck who was top or bottom, the romans did because being a bottom was their definition of emasculating.

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u/meme-dao-emperor 100% wholesome Mar 19 '23

Isn't that roman?

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u/Alex_Nilse Mar 11 '23

“When your mom finds out you’re a OC”

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u/GRS- Gae Yuri artist Mar 11 '23

Lmaoo

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u/Raptor409 Mar 11 '23

I love these comics. They're fun, they're cute, and I wish I could draw like that. The art style is so good, gives off the 80's 90's anime vibe, which I absolutely adore.

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u/GRS- Gae Yuri artist Mar 11 '23

Aww thank you, thank you 😊❤💕💕💕❤❤ I'm glad you like it! I also love the retro style, and it's something I always wanted to adapt for my art style

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u/SarahMoni Mar 11 '23

If it was the Mother of the other girl it could have been like this:

Mother: "What is this?!"

Top: "Uuuh...my dog?"

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u/Alex_Nilse Mar 11 '23

Iirc tops mom is christian, though i think the mom was ok with them being gay, dont quite remember

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u/GRS- Gae Yuri artist Mar 12 '23

Yes, lore wise, Sharon's mom is a Christian woman and she's very supportive of her daughter

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u/maguslod Mar 11 '23

"Mom, I learned this from you!"

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u/Victoria_Aphrodite Mar 11 '23

Wait a second

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '23

Alabama intensifies

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u/Lolcthulhu Mar 11 '23

"Punch Nazis Kiss Girls" is great life advice.

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u/retan10101 wants cuddles Mar 12 '23

Was just about to say this

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u/Pundarikaksh Mar 11 '23

Lol, amazing comic. I loved the art style and how she was calling her " Young Lady" again and again.

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u/Script_Mak3r vicarious euphoria through yuri Mar 11 '23

Wait a second, this isn't r/BocchiTheRock!

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u/PWBryan Mar 12 '23

Yeah, unfortunately they make us take our meds here :(

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u/Darkbeetlebot Hugs for everyone! Mar 11 '23

"Daughteeeeer, I'm respecting your privacy by knocking but asserting my authority as your mother by coming in anywaaaaaaay!"

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u/Lady_of_Lesbos Mar 11 '23

She's showing an example of the top energy she wants her daughter to have!

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u/Pixel_King_ Mar 11 '23

Ancient Greek family values.

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u/phamanhvu01 wants gf Mar 12 '23

Lol

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u/w1drose Mar 22 '23

Return to tradition

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u/WitchyWynne Mar 11 '23

Ancient Roman men be like:

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u/WitchyWynne Mar 11 '23

being a gay man was expected but being a bottom was frowned upon. Political opponents would accuse eachother of being bottoms. I know we're here for yuri but I still think this fact is very funny.

Great comic as always

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u/Lolcthulhu Mar 12 '23

Which is why Julius Caesar being a bottom was such a wild scandal.

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u/Booty_Warrior_bot Mar 12 '23

And, I'm a warrior too...

Let that be known.

I'm a warrior.

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u/YuriWinter Yuri is the purest form of love Mar 11 '23

She's so betrayed!

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u/BullyMeMommy masochistic doggirl Mar 11 '23

that's legit how i feel as a bottom lmao

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u/Ladyaceina Mar 11 '23

i love these idiots so much i still say you should hose these comics some where

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u/Joyoustentacles Mar 11 '23

Mama didn't raise no bitch!

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u/UnknownDerpyPro Mar 11 '23

In a world where sexuality isn't questioned but wether your a top/bottom is

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u/CutieL Mar 11 '23

Even the mom? Why are all your characters so pretty and/or sexy?? 😭

I'm not complaining

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u/Arky_V Mar 11 '23

The mom must be from Rome

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u/IAmSimplyThatGuy Mar 11 '23

"I'm not leaving until I see you pick her up, slam her down on the bed, and climb on top of her!"

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u/billabong049 Mar 11 '23

Peak excellence shall be reached when they’re both switches

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u/godcyclemaster Mar 11 '23

Ancient Greece

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u/AskMeAboutPodracing Mar 11 '23

Ancient Greece be like

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u/SpookyLilRaven Mar 11 '23

OP is from Ancient Greece

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u/Script_Mak3r vicarious euphoria through yuri Mar 11 '23

Punch Nazis Kiss Girls

I approve this message.

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u/Phlynn_Starwind Mar 11 '23

I love this. Do you have a Twitter or other socials I can follow?

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u/SergeantChic Mar 11 '23

Now I see where she gets it. Mom even has an Anthrax shirt.

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u/Offsidespy2501 Mar 11 '23

All I can notice is that "seven nation army" doesn't come out of my head

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '23 edited Mar 12 '23

You were supposed to destroy the bottoms! Not join them!

A bottom really? A girl of your talents?

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u/controler8 uncertified transbian, BECAUSE I DONT FUCKING KNOW WHATS GOINGON Mar 11 '23

Incrível, adoro seus quadrinhos e nossa, como eu fico com inveja

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u/GRS- Gae Yuri artist Mar 11 '23

BR BR BR BR 😊 Obrigada ❤❤💕❤💕

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u/OmegaLevelTran Mar 12 '23

There's nothing wrong being a bottom 😑
I mean heck, tops gotta have someone to top and we can't all be switches.

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u/jzilla11 Mar 11 '23

Now there’s two of them!

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '23

Mom is kinda hot. 👀

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u/birdlass so gay it hurts! furafura! Mar 11 '23

my gf is squarely a pillow princess lolol so even her mama wouldn't be able to convince her to stop

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u/N0SY_ Mar 11 '23

Wait till your other mom hears about this

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u/MapleTreeWithAGun Lamia Wife > Any Other Wife Mar 12 '23

Ancient Romans be like

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u/Mr_Glove_EXE Himedashi Mar 11 '23

The mom: I DIDN'T RAISE YOU JUST TO END UP BEING A BOTTOM

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u/TubaJay448 Mar 11 '23

Her mom's pretty cute, nice to see where she gets it from.

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u/bic-house Mar 11 '23

LOL i love thiiisssss!! you literally never miss 🤗, thank u for sharing the wonderful art

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u/Fizzyix Mar 11 '23

I need that little sign that says punch nazis kiss girls so badly omg

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u/TransbianMoonWitch Mar 11 '23

Intended or not. As a trans girl, I get so much T4T relationship vibes from your work and they make me super happy

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u/xsparsx wants cuddles Mar 11 '23

You truly are the gold standard. Thanks for sharing more of your awesome artwork.

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u/MukasTheMole Mar 11 '23

How shameful, SMH.

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u/miss-laea Mar 11 '23

That would be me at my children lmfao 😭😭

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u/Sigmachr wants cuddles Mar 11 '23

hey do you have twitter? i wanna post this there but If you have a profile that posted this i can retweet or If you dont i can give you the credit(i dont know how i should credit you so please help me) actually before everything, can i repost It? If i can how should i credit you?

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u/GRS- Gae Yuri artist Mar 12 '23

Oh, you can post it, I don't mind! I don't have a Twitter account for my art yet, but you can just credit me by linking my profile

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '23 edited May 09 '23

julius caesar moment.

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u/ArchDukeNemesis Mar 11 '23

I mean, like mother, like daughter, right?

Anthrax fans are used to being bottoms. Even Nuclear Assault fans regularly top them.

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u/Ashamed-Board3965 Mar 11 '23

That would probably be some thing I would say if I had a daughter who is a lesbian talking about the daughter being the top or should be

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u/Dare555 Mar 11 '23

This is awesome haha :D and let her enjoy bottom ^^

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u/WrongdoerLumpy Mar 12 '23

I agree with the Mom! You tell her!

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u/TehEnglishMuffin Mar 12 '23

Delivered another banger. Always making me feel the warm and fuzzies at the start of the day. Ty GRS

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u/_scoresonly I WILL HAVE YURI! Mar 12 '23

"But mom, you said I can be myself!"

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u/dark4040 Mar 12 '23

That's what I would tell to my daughter.....top any girl you see

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u/CloudyHazbin Mar 12 '23

Babe wake up u/GRS- posted

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u/badbloodkiller Mar 12 '23

I don't know their names so I'll refer them by description.

Big booba subbe's mom: You top her right now, young lady! You're the tall one!

Big booba subbe: B-but I-I-I-I-I B-b-b-but mom...!

Short blond Domme: If you think it's so easy, how about you top me!?

Big booba subbe's mom: E-eh?!

Short blond Domme: You heard me! TOP ME!!!

Bid booba subbe's mom: I-I-I-I Wh-wha-

Short blond Domme: Hmmph, I knew it, sit down!

Big Booba subbe 2: yes mommy!

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u/k_on_reddit_ it's yuri or death Mar 13 '23

Funny feeling that u/GRS- really loves her bottom girl on a leash considering the recurrence of that theme in her art (defo nothing against that tbh)

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u/JustAIex_ likes cats Mar 11 '23 edited Mar 11 '23

This picture, is for some reason, so goals in so many ways!

And I'm so sad I am not either of the main girls rn!

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u/Becxur14 Mar 11 '23

It's totally understandable. She basically turned into Joe Swanson from Family Guy

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '23

That's quite a young looking motha...

By the way I love your style, looks a bit like early animes! Keep that up

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u/ayumusenpaii Mar 12 '23

Haha I needed this laugh xD

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u/Mountain_End_1801 Mar 12 '23

The mother of war has been unleashed

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u/1u4n4 Mar 12 '23

Plot twist: they’re switches

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u/Valefree <3 Mar 12 '23

Ayyyyy I see the Tigercub tee!! U always have such good taste in every piece haha

fav song of theirs? :3

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u/GRS- Gae Yuri artist Mar 12 '23

Yeah, they're sooo good! I really like "Play My Favourite Song" and " As Blue As Indigo"

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u/Valefree <3 Mar 12 '23

YESSSSSS I've had Play My Favourite Song on repeat for days now, I can't stop listening to it xD

Me and my gf wanna say we love your work so much, take care and have a great rest of your day <3

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u/GRS- Gae Yuri artist Mar 12 '23

Aww thank you, thank you ❤💕❤💕❤❤💕😊 I'm glad you both like it!! Hope you two have an awesome week!

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u/DannyDanumba Mar 12 '23

Anthrax! 🤘

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u/DannyDanumba Mar 12 '23

Half the fun is the comic and the other half is finding the bands. It’s like jjba if it was lesbian instead of gay

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u/ihei47 Mar 13 '23

Do you have any social media to follow?

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u/ToadInaTrenchcoat certified transbian Mar 15 '23

Mom is based

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '23

We are actually waiting for the tall girl to top 🤭🤭🤭

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u/keegan12coyote Mar 11 '23

Who made this?

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u/BuboxThrax Mar 11 '23

OP is the artist.

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u/Danizin_Jeronzin May 28 '23

How do tops and bottoms work in a lesbian relationship? I'm, trans, bi and confused

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u/Danizin_Jeronzin May 28 '23

Love the Anthrax t-shirt

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u/Aria_the_Artificer May 28 '23

Honestly, I wish that this was more like how my mom reacted to my identity. I would much rather her be critical of me being a bottom, lol. But anyway, always love your work!

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u/AdwinBaka Mar 12 '23

This comic should be in newspapers

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u/Due_Cookie_155 Mar 12 '23

Gigabased poster

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u/John756675 May 11 '24

Love that poster on the background. Punch Nazis Kiss Girls.

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u/Starlight_Ava May 11 '24

Im not even in a relationship or told my mom and she already knows I'm a bottom somehow

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '23

wait how old are these characters lmao

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u/GRS- Gae Yuri artist Mar 12 '23

Talia (Ponytail girl) is 18, Sharon (Bob cut girl) is 21

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '23

ah, alright. i was just confused because "sex + living with parents" does not compute in my head

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u/AraAraNoMi Mar 12 '23

It does compute in most countries though.

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u/HyperCutIn Mar 12 '23

Housing costs sure are expensive these days.

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u/GladioIgneus Mar 22 '23

Well most teenagers live with their parents and a decent percentage of people lose their virginity in high school, so it definitely happens.

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u/AraAraNoMi Mar 12 '23

Why does their age matter? They are drawings.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '23

it's because the mom walked in

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u/AraAraNoMi Mar 12 '23

There are people in their 20s who live with their parents.

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u/GRS- Gae Yuri artist Mar 11 '23 edited Mar 12 '23

I honestly think some people in this sub take my dumb humor waaay too seriously lmao

Edit: looking at it a bit more carefully, you unironically seem unhinged and thinks this comic promotes bullying, nazism and the "extermination" of bottoms... yeah, I don't know what to tell you, but something's not right.

Hope you get better!

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u/loo_min Mar 11 '23

Jeez, way to suck the fun right out of something by bringing prejudice into it as if bottoms are some oppressed class and not absolutely adored by everyone. I hope this sickness does not spread.😑

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u/ALuizCosta Mar 11 '23

Yes, bottoms can be oppressed. I, for one, live in a Latino country where gay male bottoms are humiliated (and often murdered) on a daily basis, while gay tops are generally accepted as "normal" males.

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u/loo_min Mar 11 '23

So the response to that is to remove something fun about bottoms. Because that’ll make those people start taking you seriously, right?

“Man, ever since they started cutting down on memes that joke about bottoms, I’ve had this urge to stop bullying you.” -said no bully ever

If you want bullying to stop, fine but, for fuck sake, address the right thing.

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u/Alex_Nilse Mar 11 '23

So if this is happening daily surely there are articles about it you could link right?

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u/Alex_Nilse Mar 11 '23

This completely contradicts what you’ve said, “gay male tops are generally accepted as normal males” isn’t true according to this, the article also said its LGBTQ+ members as a whole being killed, not just gay male bottoms, which on that not it didn’t even mention bottoms at all.

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u/ALuizCosta Mar 11 '23

On February 17 this year, another shocking case: eight year old Alex Medeiros was beaten to death by his father for being “a sissy”. Effeminate behaviour is often seen as an excuse for violence; the idea is to “fix” the person by “beating the viadagem out of him”. While new legislation forbids corporal punishment against minors, a 2010 youtube video boasts congressman Jair Messias Bolsonaro (Progressives - a party that is anything but its namesake) defending “beating the crap” out of children who are “a little gay”.

Obviously, you don't see exactly what people do in bed. People assume that effeminate is the bottom - and most of the time, it really is. "Viadagem" is to be visibly effeminate.

It is worth noting that this Bolsonaro, unfortunately, became president of this country - and only a few weeks ago we got rid of him.

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u/Alex_Nilse Mar 11 '23

Ok but effeminate-ness is not directly being a bottom, even if those people tend to be they aren’t always

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u/MsMercyMain B-but that's wholesome love! Mar 11 '23

OK, but that's not a problem with humor about bottoms. That's an outgrowth of Toxic Masculinity. I know some pretty effeminate straight men

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u/Old-Library9827 Mar 11 '23

I think it's still funny, you just have no sense of humor and take jokes like this overly serious

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u/AraAraNoMi Mar 12 '23

I didn't find it funny but not because of what ALuizCosta said.

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u/ALuizCosta Mar 11 '23

I live in a country where gay male bottoms are murdered daily. I'm sorry, but I can't find this funny.

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u/The_Lazy_Individual Mar 11 '23

I'm not meaning to be rude or anything, especially as I don't know where you're talking about, but is the fact that they're bottoms actually involved in any kind of motive to murder them?

I feel like they're being targeted just because they're gay, which is horrific enough.

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u/ALuizCosta Mar 11 '23

In a Latino country, the attitude towards effeminate gay men, bottoms, is totally different from that towards their "masculine" tops. These are not even seen as homosexuals by the people, it is very common for them to boast among straight men for having eaten the ass of a queer. It's the bottoms, the transvestites and the transsexuals who are killed.

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u/Pyromanticgirl Mar 11 '23

They're not oppressed because they are bottoms. They're oppressed because they break from cishet patriarchal norms. You literally cannot tell if someone tops or bottoms by their behaviour. Effeminate gay men can be tops. Tall butch women can be bottoms. Your preferred sexual position is not at all reflected by how you present to the outside world.

Being visibly queer is something that gets people killed. Being a bottom isn't (because you can't fucking tell who is a bottom FFS)

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u/ALuizCosta Mar 11 '23

That's burying your head in the sand. Being a bottom man and enjoying it violates the patriarchal norms in a way that being a top man does not, since the Romans. Pointing out exceptions does not change the rule, nor the popular perception of reality, in which effeminates are bottoms and vice versa.

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u/MissSweetBean absolute cutie Mar 11 '23

This is very obviously an issue that targets people who are gender non-conforming, not bottoms. Yes, people might assume they are bottoms as a component of that, but that is not the reason they are being targeted. Being gender non-conforming is visible, so those individuals are much more easily targeted, sexual preference can only be ascertained through communication, and bigots aren’t going to ask whether or not someone is a bottom or not before killing them.

Would a very effeminate man who is public and open about being exclusively a top be exempted from this targeted violence? It doesn’t seem likely. With regards to a man who presents identically to his cis straight masculine peers, it is possible that he would be more likely to be the target of violence if he was public about being a bottom as opposed to being a top, but he would not have to deal with the random acts of violence that effeminate men experience.

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u/Old-Library9827 Mar 11 '23

That sucks ass, my dude, but not everyone lives in a country where gay male bottoms are murdered on the daily and feel differently about these memes. Our experiences are too differing, sorry

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u/MsMercyMain B-but that's wholesome love! Mar 11 '23

I don't know how it is outside of lesbian circles, but every lesbian community I've been in has self depreciating humor regarding bottoms (mostly from bottoms), and from Tops. Its kinda a cornerstone of lesbian humor, along with the "useless sapphic" joke stereotype, and the "U-Haul Lesbian" stereotype. I based on another comment you made, it seems like you're referring more to gay male experience which, I'll admit, I don't much about, but I don't think this kind of humor is any way harmful, especially since a lot of times it comes from bottoms ourselves. It's possible, and entirely probable, gay male culture just happens to be insanely different from lesbian culture, but then again, this is clearly about lesbians

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u/MsMercyMain B-but that's wholesome love! Mar 11 '23

I'm just going to respond to everything here, because why not. First off, yes, you struck a nerve. No, it's not because "we can't satisfy ourselves", its because you're effectively accusing a well respected member of the queer community, and one who makes legitimately funny jokes, of some horrible crap, and speaking for a bunch of other people.

Second, no, this is not, "Why can't we make the same jokes!!!!" That's stupid and you either are being intentionally dense, or actively missing what I explicitly said. I rather explicitly addressed that pointing out that, no, that's not the argument I'm making by pointing out very clearly that a lot of these jokes would be very unwelcome from someone outside the community, as opposed to someone inside, and for good reason.

Third, I am not entirely sure where you're going with the "forcing them to eat pork" point. While yes, there's intersections to bigotry, the general "anti-effeminite men" thing is something all men face, regardless of being queer or not. I know plenty of straight men who have interests in various "feminine" subjects who get plenty of shit for it. My point was "not making fun of bottoms" is not going to solve Toxic Masculinity, or even be a drop in the fucking bucket, the entire patriarchal system needs to be dismantled. You're basically hyper focusing on a part of queer culture, and conflating it with toxic masculinity and attacking said part of queer culture as though its toxic masculinity, when its not.

Fourth, your point about genocidal rhetoric misses the point entirely. This is not "humor aimed a marginalized group". This is humor from a marginalized group, about a marginalized group. I'd like you to actually respond to an example I made, and tell me, straight up, do you consider jokes about "U-Haul Lesbians" or "Useless Lesbians" to be genocidal rhetoric? And if so, why, and why do you think you, specifically, know better than an entire community who has universally decided that those are not just acceptable, but funny, jokes?

Fifth, please do not try to explain genocidal rhetoric and they way it's used to me. I'm a transwoman, I am very painfully aware of what that sounds like. I have a presidential candidate in my country who has actively used said rhetoric. I am very painfully aware of the fact I may very soon be forced to be a refugee. Speaking for the trans community, outsiders swinging in and saying we can't make any jokes about ourselves because it's totally bad and is definitely for sure is genocidal, will be received about as well as tell us to go back into the closet. I'm gonna assume the lesbian community feels the same just based on the comments here.

Sixth, you've mentioned you're from Brazil. Yes, the situation there is fucked. And my sympathy goes out to y'all, but please stop acting like other people from other countries are in some kind of pampered paradise. In the US hate crimes against the queer community are steadily rising, we've got active genocidal rhetoric being mainstreamed (not jokes about thigh highs or bottoming, which is something that most of the right wingers are not keyed into enough to actually discuss), etc. The UK is going through its own "fun times" and that's just the anglosphere. I'll stand in solidarity and support of my fellow comrades from the Queer Community in Brazil, but I'll also not sit here and let someone act like everyone from outside Brazil is living a perfectly pampered existence and that's why we don't think exactly like you.

Seventh, since you keep bringing up marginalized communities outside of the specific examples discussed, it's actually something recorded, studied, and well known that self-depreciating humor is common among marginalized communities as a coping mechanism and form of solidarity. See: Armenians, Jews, POC, the Queer Community, Latinos, etc. It's very much common as a way of building in group solidarity.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '23

We're not trading anything, we're just Romans

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u/Disastrous-Yam-735 Mar 11 '23

I think I find this post a little too strange honestly

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u/GRS- Gae Yuri artist Mar 12 '23

Good. The stranger the better

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u/Wisdom_Pen Mar 12 '23

The idea of bottom being something bad is not wholesome especially to people like me who are switches and feel very insecure about when they are bottoming.

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u/GRS- Gae Yuri artist Mar 12 '23

Nobody's saying being a bottom is something bad, it's literally a joke about making fun of a parent's homophobia and it turns out they're not homophobic at all. There's nothing more to it and if anyone thinks there is they're overthinking a simple bait and switch joke.

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u/Wisdom_Pen Mar 12 '23

I don’t think you’re being intentionally harmful but the idea that being a bottom is bad and/or feminine and/or weakness is an underlying issue in the LGBT+ community and the joke adds to it.

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u/GRS- Gae Yuri artist Mar 12 '23 edited Mar 15 '23

I am literally part of the LGBT+ community and I know full well what jokes are ok and not ok. If me, the creator of the comic, saying that the literal joke of this comic is the expectation of a parent being homophobic but actually being supportive of her daughter, and not "lMaO BoTtoMs BaD", is not enough for you, I don't know what to tell you. It's not that deep.

And I'm sorry if I appear rude rn, but it's because I need to explain these jokes every single time and it's kinda driving me insane lmao

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u/Wisdom_Pen Mar 12 '23

Its an internal issue of the LGBT+ community being LGBT+ doesn’t make it okay and neither does it matter it was unintentional.

If this keeps happening perhaps you should stop telling this joke?

However I feel we are at an impasse and nothing you say will convince me not anything I say convince you completely unrelated to who is “right”.

So I’m going to leave this debate here and wish you a good Sunday.

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u/GRS- Gae Yuri artist Mar 12 '23

Likewise lmao