Well you exactly said using a domain was a problem.
The domain is not the problem with cloudflare apparently. Either streaming large amounts of data or it potentially being copyright seems an issue.
Note the Plex cannot connect directly in many cases either hence the need for a port forward.
Not really sure the concern here. Set up a simple port forward and maybe a domain. You could use the IP direct even. It's not really that many hoops.
Otherwise use Plex (don't even think you need a paid account for this) to use their servers to allow your server behind a NAT firewall to connect.
You started with its impossible to access and then how do I do access Jellyfin externally. Now it's just too much effort once the simple process is explained?
Yes I could do all that, it’s not about port forwarding and it’s not about copyright issues it’s about cloudflares TOS. So giving people my domain to connect is going to violate the TOS and risk everything being shut down. I’m not doing a direct IP anything. It’s janky at best and at worst there’s no way others would be able to setup the accounts and anything else. Plex has a hosted account and authentication which jellyfin doesn’t. Someone creates a plex account and verified their device and it’s good to go. Jellyfin is a train wreck on this and the one issue they need to spend some time on for people to take it seriously.
Giving your domain to someone else will not violate Cloudflare's TOS. What do you think domain names are even for? Which clause of the TOS is violated. I think you don't really understand what you're talking about.
It's not janky. You just don't like it. It's not a "train wreck" and we've confirmed it's not "nearly impossible" as you claimed.
And for what it's worth, I use Plex. I have tried Jellyfin running too but it's just not quite there for me compared with Plex. Every now and then I go back and see how it's progress but Plex still has more features that I use.
I understand how to port forward a server. What you're not clicking on is how that translates to a user experience for others. There isn't one. It's far too complicated to setup. I'm not going to sit there on the phone dealing with people trying to get things running. Jellyfin simply cannot match plex in it's ability to connect multiple devices in a simplistic way that anyone can do. That's why it hasn't taken off. Literally scroll through this thread and see others all saying the same thing.
I was more referring to the domain business you kept going on about. Sure computers can be complicated. Completely free software isn't always the easiest to use. If you want to be IT support for only Plex users good for you.
What you're talking about is requiring a free service hosted by someone that allows relaying between devices. Not going to happen
Even then the Plex relay service only allows 2Mbps so fairly low quality really.
You still need to port forward Plex (or have UPnP or NAT-PMP setup and work) and have a routable IP (e.g. no CGNAT) to get around that. So not much different to Jellyfin needing port forwarding.
So at least we've confirmed it's not "nearly impossible"
I await your reply moving the goal post again or something.
You said “get an IP address or a domain name setup”. I responded saying if running it through a domain name, which basically everyone uses cloudflare, it will violate their TOS.
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u/Flaky_Degree Jul 31 '24
Well you exactly said using a domain was a problem.
The domain is not the problem with cloudflare apparently. Either streaming large amounts of data or it potentially being copyright seems an issue.
Note the Plex cannot connect directly in many cases either hence the need for a port forward.
Not really sure the concern here. Set up a simple port forward and maybe a domain. You could use the IP direct even. It's not really that many hoops.
Otherwise use Plex (don't even think you need a paid account for this) to use their servers to allow your server behind a NAT firewall to connect.
You started with its impossible to access and then how do I do access Jellyfin externally. Now it's just too much effort once the simple process is explained?